Do we agree that a fundamental difference between the right and the left is...

[daveman]

liberals: conservatives are all stupid and racist

liberals: i just dont understand why more conservatives dont support us

conservatives: The left are a bunch of shiftless bums, minorities, and scum who want free shit.
conservatives: I just don't understand why more minorities don't support us.

You're right. Maybe we should adopt the left's attitude: THERE THERE YOU POOR DUMB MINORITIES, ITS OKAY, WE KNOW YOU CANT POSSIBLY SUCCEED WITHOUT WHITE LIBERALS HELP

No, we would much prefer the GOP to remain unchanged. In fact, we are counting on it.

The GOP needs to return to its conservative roots.

We have one liberal party. We damn sure don't need two.

Conservative "roots"? Who would that be, George Wallace?

To racists, everything's about race.

I'm talking about support for the Constitution. Ever read it? It's fascinating. Bears little resemblance to what we've got today. Leftists in both parties seem to think it's optional.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

conservatives: The left are a bunch of shiftless bums, minorities, and scum who want free shit.
conservatives: I just don't understand why more minorities don't support us.

You're right. Maybe we should adopt the left's attitude: THERE THERE YOU POOR DUMB MINORITIES, ITS OKAY, WE KNOW YOU CANT POSSIBLY SUCCEED WITHOUT WHITE LIBERALS HELP

No, we would much prefer the GOP to remain unchanged. In fact, we are counting on it.

The GOP needs to return to its conservative roots.

We have one liberal party. We damn sure don't need two.

Considering that the last time the GOP nominated a conservative president was a guy Calvin, I would not hold your breath.

I'm not. This country's circling the leftist toilet.

Shame, too.

It is almost as if decades of voting for the lesser or two evils was not a good strategy.

 

[Billiejeens]

I knew that you could spin it! Congratulations!

That's "spin"? So you're saying that presidents agree with everything in every bill that they sign?

You're as dishonest and disingenuous as ever.

Not at all. I am saying that you agree with everything the republican presidents do, even if they do what democrat presidents do, which you firmly oppose.

Maybe not all gopers but just Trump

I was a republican ever since we got that SOB, Nixon, out of office. Then they elected Cheney and his hand puppet, baby Bush. After that, they completely lost their minds with Palin, and now Trump. As far as I am concerned, there is no longer a GOP. I didn't leave the party. The party left me.

That’s similar to me. We got a balanced budget with Clinton and then bush ruined it. It’s been clear to me for years repubs aren’t for small government.

You mean with speaker Gingrich.

 

[iceberg]

The right claims to want less of those things, but they don't practice it.

You don't see them skipping along with glee and the left do you?

 

[Rocko]

The right claims to want less of those things, but they don't practice it.

Exactly. They feed you a bunch of bullshit about how they don't want those things, yet they pass legislation that regulates what you can and can't do with your own body.

i misread your post. The conservative position on abortion involves the rights of a third party. We keep telling you that, and you keep ignoring that and starting with a woman’s right to do whatever she wants with her body. At this point I don’t know if it’s stupidity or dishonesty. Either way it’s bad.

Well, they have to be both stupid and dishonest to justify the killing of human beings.

It’s like it’s inconvenient for a lot of them to recognize more than just the mother is affected, so they just ignore it. If you’re going to debate, at least be honest, and have a few brain cells.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

WTF is a "personal Liberal", and why do you feel that you are being robbed of it?

You might wanna slow down on the hyperbolic rage. It's starting to cause you to sound confused.

Is there a hyperbolic rage when ANTIFA shows up?

 

[Flash]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

WTF is a "personal Liberal", and why do you feel that you are being robbed of it?

You might wanna slow down on the hyperbolic rage. It's starting to cause you to sound confused.

Is there a hyperbolic rage when ANTIFA shows up?

We don't have many of those sonofabitches around where I live.

 

[Brain357]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

The right is stealing your hard earned money all the time. What do you think those big corporate welfare scams are?

 

[francoHFW]

The conflict is between Liberty and Equality.

They are natural enemies---Because there is a natural Inequality in Ability (and Motivation as well). Thus motivated talented persons given the Liberty to go out and do their best---will naturally get ahead and destroy the Equality that the Socialists want.

The Natural Order is directly opposed to the notion of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" (Marx).

As this nonsense can never stand in the long run (and never has)---Force becomes necessary to maintain Socialist Artificial Equality. Force to restrict Liberty.

That's is why these Ignorant Socialists (No Work Free Stuff--Equality) quickly become Communists--they need force to Take Away the property of the Talented and Motivated. That takes Big Government necessary first, and very quickly Totalitarian Government.

Been going on for centuries. It's only new to those educated in public schools in rotting Northern cities run by Democrats for half a century.

Of course no socialist country has ever gone communist without a full-blown revolution. socialism today means Democratic Fair capitalism with a good safety net like every other modern country has but us. Get it through your cold war dinosaur brainwashed mind. Communism is no threat. Only someone with a gun to their head is for communism. A dictatorship owning all business and industry. Welcome to the 21st century.

 

[Brain357]

That's "spin"? So you're saying that presidents agree with everything in every bill that they sign?

You're as dishonest and disingenuous as ever.

Not at all. I am saying that you agree with everything the republican presidents do, even if they do what democrat presidents do, which you firmly oppose.

Maybe not all gopers but just Trump

I was a republican ever since we got that SOB, Nixon, out of office. Then they elected Cheney and his hand puppet, baby Bush. After that, they completely lost their minds with Palin, and now Trump. As far as I am concerned, there is no longer a GOP. I didn't leave the party. The party left me.

That’s similar to me. We got a balanced budget with Clinton and then bush ruined it. It’s been clear to me for years repubs aren’t for small government.

You mean with speaker Gingrich.

I mean we had a balanced budget and then Bush ruined it. Just like our deficits were shrinking under Obama till we got trump. How many times are idiot republicans going to believe the tax cuts will pay for themselves?

 

[Flash]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

The right is stealing your hard earned money all the time. What do you think those big corporate welfare scams are?

You are confused Moon Bat.

Corporations? You mean like the big auto companies that Obama gave taxpayer's money to? My money? How about the Wall Street banks he bailed out? The Wall Street banks supported both him and Crooked Hillary. How about the stupid solar power companies he gave a shit load of taxpayer's money to and then they went belly up with bonuses for the executives who just happen to be Democrat campaign bundlers?

The corporations aren't the problem. Corporations produce jobs, create tax revenues and produce needed goods and services. It is the filthy ass Liberals that put them on welfare and then get the kickbacks.

 

[Brain357]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

The right is stealing your hard earned money all the time. What do you think those big corporate welfare scams are?

Corporations? You mean like the big auto companies that Obama gave taxpayer's money to? My money? How about the Wall Street banks he bailed out? The Wall Street banks supported both him and Crooked Hillary. How about the stupid solar power companies he gave a shit load of taxpayer's money to and then they went belly up with bonuses for the executives who just happen to be Democrat campaign bundlers?

The corporation aren't the problem. Corporations produce jobs, create tax revenues and produce needed goods and services. It is the filthy ass Liberals that put them on welfare and then get the kickbacks.

Do you think I'm going to argue that dems aren't for big gov? They both are, just in different ways. What about the huge cash give away for Foxconn? Trump loves it. How about the huge tax cuts for corporations?

Yes we have a corporations problem. They are in bed with politicians and now we have near monopolies all over the country. We have wage collusion. Corps and politicians have ruined our capitalism.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

WTF is a "personal Liberal", and why do you feel that you are being robbed of it?

You might wanna slow down on the hyperbolic rage. It's starting to cause you to sound confused.

Is there a hyperbolic rage when ANTIFA shows up?

We don't have many of those sonofabitches around where I live.

We don't either down here in Floor E Da, because we can carry concealed and have no problem sending a few of those assholes to see Lucifer.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

The right is stealing your hard earned money all the time. What do you think those big corporate welfare scams are?

Corporations? You mean like the big auto companies that Obama gave taxpayer's money to? My money? How about the Wall Street banks he bailed out? The Wall Street banks supported both him and Crooked Hillary. How about the stupid solar power companies he gave a shit load of taxpayer's money to and then they went belly up with bonuses for the executives who just happen to be Democrat campaign bundlers?

The corporation aren't the problem. Corporations produce jobs, create tax revenues and produce needed goods and services. It is the filthy ass Liberals that put them on welfare and then get the kickbacks.

Do you think I'm going to argue that dems aren't for big gov? They both are, just in different ways. What about the huge cash give away for Foxconn? Trump loves it. How about the huge tax cuts for corporations?

Yes we have a corporations problem. They are in bed with politicians and now we have near monopolies all over the country. We have wage collusion. Corps and politicians have ruined our capitalism.

Tax cuts, just love it, when people are allowed to keep more of their money...Shame liberals are too stupid about keeping their own money.

 

[Brain357]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

The right is stealing your hard earned money all the time. What do you think those big corporate welfare scams are?

Corporations? You mean like the big auto companies that Obama gave taxpayer's money to? My money? How about the Wall Street banks he bailed out? The Wall Street banks supported both him and Crooked Hillary. How about the stupid solar power companies he gave a shit load of taxpayer's money to and then they went belly up with bonuses for the executives who just happen to be Democrat campaign bundlers?

The corporation aren't the problem. Corporations produce jobs, create tax revenues and produce needed goods and services. It is the filthy ass Liberals that put them on welfare and then get the kickbacks.

Do you think I'm going to argue that dems aren't for big gov? They both are, just in different ways. What about the huge cash give away for Foxconn? Trump loves it. How about the huge tax cuts for corporations?

Yes we have a corporations problem. They are in bed with politicians and now we have near monopolies all over the country. We have wage collusion. Corps and politicians have ruined our capitalism.

Tax cuts, just love it, when people are allowed to keep more of their money...Shame liberals are too stupid about keeping their own money.

Then you love huge deficits too. Such a conservative.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

The right is stealing your hard earned money all the time. What do you think those big corporate welfare scams are?

Corporations? You mean like the big auto companies that Obama gave taxpayer's money to? My money? How about the Wall Street banks he bailed out? The Wall Street banks supported both him and Crooked Hillary. How about the stupid solar power companies he gave a shit load of taxpayer's money to and then they went belly up with bonuses for the executives who just happen to be Democrat campaign bundlers?

The corporation aren't the problem. Corporations produce jobs, create tax revenues and produce needed goods and services. It is the filthy ass Liberals that put them on welfare and then get the kickbacks.

Do you think I'm going to argue that dems aren't for big gov? They both are, just in different ways. What about the huge cash give away for Foxconn? Trump loves it. How about the huge tax cuts for corporations?

Yes we have a corporations problem. They are in bed with politicians and now we have near monopolies all over the country. We have wage collusion. Corps and politicians have ruined our capitalism.

Jeff Bezos a flaming liberal owns Amazon and Washington Compost. Bill Gates a flaming liberal owns Microsoft and MSNBC. Warren Buffet a flaming liberal owns Geico , Coco Cola and Berkshire . The reason why Warren has his stock so high is to keep fuckwads like Brain here from ever getting close to Buffet. He doesnt like dumbasses.

BRK.A - Stock quote for BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY INC. - MSN Money

 

[Flash]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

The right is stealing your hard earned money all the time. What do you think those big corporate welfare scams are?

Corporations? You mean like the big auto companies that Obama gave taxpayer's money to? My money? How about the Wall Street banks he bailed out? The Wall Street banks supported both him and Crooked Hillary. How about the stupid solar power companies he gave a shit load of taxpayer's money to and then they went belly up with bonuses for the executives who just happen to be Democrat campaign bundlers?

The corporation aren't the problem. Corporations produce jobs, create tax revenues and produce needed goods and services. It is the filthy ass Liberals that put them on welfare and then get the kickbacks.

Do you think I'm going to argue that dems aren't for big gov? They both are, just in different ways. What about the huge cash give away for Foxconn? Trump loves it. How about the huge tax cuts for corporations?

Yes we have a corporations problem. They are in bed with politicians and now we have near monopolies all over the country. We have wage collusion. Corps and politicians have ruined our capitalism.

Where were you when that asshole Obama was giving away taxpayer's money to corporations like it was candy?

The Democrats are the scum of this country. We all know that. They are the champions of big government and that makes them shitheads.

If you are arguing that Republicans are also big government then you are barking up the wrong tree with me. I am not a Republican. They are nothing more than Democrat Light.

They are better than Democrats but that isn't saying much because the Democrats are such assholes.

The problem is not the corporations that produce jobs, tax revenues and needed goods and service. Your life would be shit without them.

The problem is the Liberals that put everybody on welfare, including corporations.

If you don't like corporations getting government money then join Conservatives like me to advocate no more welfare, subsidies, bailouts, entitlements or grants. Cut everybody off and reduce government to do only the minimal needed collective services like defense, courts, police etc.

 

[Brain357]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

The right is stealing your hard earned money all the time. What do you think those big corporate welfare scams are?

Corporations? You mean like the big auto companies that Obama gave taxpayer's money to? My money? How about the Wall Street banks he bailed out? The Wall Street banks supported both him and Crooked Hillary. How about the stupid solar power companies he gave a shit load of taxpayer's money to and then they went belly up with bonuses for the executives who just happen to be Democrat campaign bundlers?

The corporation aren't the problem. Corporations produce jobs, create tax revenues and produce needed goods and services. It is the filthy ass Liberals that put them on welfare and then get the kickbacks.

Do you think I'm going to argue that dems aren't for big gov? They both are, just in different ways. What about the huge cash give away for Foxconn? Trump loves it. How about the huge tax cuts for corporations?

Yes we have a corporations problem. They are in bed with politicians and now we have near monopolies all over the country. We have wage collusion. Corps and politicians have ruined our capitalism.

Jeff Bezos a flaming liberal owns Amazon and Washington Compost. Bill Gates a flaming liberal owns Microsoft and MSNBC. Warren Buffet a flaming liberal owns Geico , Coco Cola and Berkshire . The reason why Warren has his stock so high is to keep fuckwads like Brain here from ever getting close to Buffet. He doesnt like dumbasses.

BRK.A - Stock quote for BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY INC. - MSN Money

And there are lots of rich republicans who owns companies too. Remember the Koch brothers? What is your point?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

As a card carrying Right Winger I believe in personal Liberty, personal responsibility and piss on those that want to use the government to steal my hard earned money.

Liberals are pretty much the scum of this country.

Their agenda is to rob us of our personal Liberal for the "collective good", which is always disastrous.

The right is stealing your hard earned money all the time. What do you think those big corporate welfare scams are?

Corporations? You mean like the big auto companies that Obama gave taxpayer's money to? My money? How about the Wall Street banks he bailed out? The Wall Street banks supported both him and Crooked Hillary. How about the stupid solar power companies he gave a shit load of taxpayer's money to and then they went belly up with bonuses for the executives who just happen to be Democrat campaign bundlers?

The corporation aren't the problem. Corporations produce jobs, create tax revenues and produce needed goods and services. It is the filthy ass Liberals that put them on welfare and then get the kickbacks.

Do you think I'm going to argue that dems aren't for big gov? They both are, just in different ways. What about the huge cash give away for Foxconn? Trump loves it. How about the huge tax cuts for corporations?

Yes we have a corporations problem. They are in bed with politicians and now we have near monopolies all over the country. We have wage collusion. Corps and politicians have ruined our capitalism.

Tax cuts, just love it, when people are allowed to keep more of their money...Shame liberals are too stupid about keeping their own money.

Then you love huge deficits too. Such a conservative.

No I don't like deficits and the only way to stop the excessive spending is to CUT programs. 50% across the board the 1st year. There is plenty of pork to cut out. That would put a 1 trillion dollar surplus, do that for 10 years and their is no more deficit. But libtards dont want that and here is the plan.

 

[daveman]

You're right. Maybe we should adopt the left's attitude: THERE THERE YOU POOR DUMB MINORITIES, ITS OKAY, WE KNOW YOU CANT POSSIBLY SUCCEED WITHOUT WHITE LIBERALS HELP

No, we would much prefer the GOP to remain unchanged. In fact, we are counting on it.

The GOP needs to return to its conservative roots.

We have one liberal party. We damn sure don't need two.

Considering that the last time the GOP nominated a conservative president was a guy Calvin, I would not hold your breath.

I'm not. This country's circling the leftist toilet.

Shame, too.

It is almost as if decades of voting for the lesser or two evils was not a good strategy.

If people had been voting Democrat the whole time, America would be a third-world nation already. Electing Republicans occasionally has merely delayed the flushing.