Do we agree that a fundamental difference between the right and the left is...

[Weatherman2020]

Thank God we had Republicans writing the budget.

When you Republicans writing the budget and a Republican signing the budget the deficits doubled in less 2 years...why is that?

Trump still had to get 60 votes in the Senate, moron. That means the deadbeat party can hold us up for ransom.

Deficit Donald could have submitted a budget that was as big as Obama's biggest budget.

But he didn't. He hates being second to anyone. He had to top Obama by hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions.

Hilarious watching you Leftards pretend to care about the deficit.
Number of threads started by leftists condemning Pelosi’s budget: ZERO

can you give us link us to this budget?

Thanks

You need a link to the annual budget passed by Congress?

Go to the arts and crafts forum, you don’t belong here.

 

[NoVote]

Do we agree that a fundamental difference between the right and the left is...

It's IQ points, 120+ on the right, 9 on the left.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

When you Republicans writing the budget and a Republican signing the budget the deficits doubled in less 2 years...why is that?

Trump still had to get 60 votes in the Senate, moron. That means the deadbeat party can hold us up for ransom.

Deficit Donald could have submitted a budget that was as big as Obama's biggest budget.

But he didn't. He hates being second to anyone. He had to top Obama by hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions.

Hilarious watching you Leftards pretend to care about the deficit.
Number of threads started by leftists condemning Pelosi’s budget: ZERO

can you give us link us to this budget?

Thanks

You need a link to the annual budget passed by Congress?

Go to the arts and crafts forum, you don’t belong here.

Do we have a signed annual budget or do we have a bunch of spending bills?

 

[Crepitus]

The right claims to want less of those things, but they don't practice it.

They can't practice it, because they are pushed by the left (due the leftist antics of using more and more government power inappropriately), to use more and more government power in order to counter the leftist usage of more and more inappropriate government power.

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I think you leftists need to deal with your own oppression olympics, before trying to claim others are acting like victims.

Coming from the side that has the perpetual victim President- that is pretty ironic.

Sorry but Oblammer has been out of office for 3 years now, only brown turd I know who was constantly apologizing for being such a dick.

 

[Crepitus]

The right claims to want less of those things, but they don't practice it.

They can't practice it, because they are pushed by the left (due the leftist antics of using more and more government power inappropriately), to use more and more government power in order to counter the leftist usage of more and more inappropriate government power.

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Only one problem with your meme...more failures in life vote Democrat.

LMAO!!! Have you ever been to a red state?

 

[Rocko]

The right claims to want less of those things, but they don't practice it.

Exactly. They feed you a bunch of bullshit about how they don't want those things, yet they pass legislation that regulates what you can and can't do with your own body.

not saying I disagree, but I find it hilarious when progressives criticize conservatives for not being real conservatives

 

[g5000]

The net cost of illegal immigrants is actually more than $120 billion/year. That's only the cost in government programs. It doesn't even consider the cost in lower wages and jobs take from American citizens.

We're at full employement, remember? Trumpies brag about it every day.

So much for the "wetbax steel our jobz!" argument.

The deficit was DECREASING when the GOP took over. Trump has more than doubled it to a trillion dollars. Even if I stipulate your bullshit $120 billion a year claim, that still leaves $880 billion of massive overspending by Trump.

So much for the "because Mexicans" bullshit.

No, that isn't the end of the "illegal aliens steal American jobs" argument. Only an imbecile imagines that because things are good now, the illegal aliens aren't hurting us.

The deficit is irrelevant to the illegal alien problem, moron.

Mass immigration is a one way ticket to a one party america ruled by the socialist left.

We've had mass immigration since our Founding, dumbass. Your ancestors were immigrants.

For the first 100 years, it mostly came from Western Europe, not shit-hole countries like Mexico.

Um...retard?

Where do you think the names Texas and California and Florida and Nevada come from? Where do you think the names of cities like El Paso, La Jolla, San Francisco, Laredo and countless others come from?

Hispanics have been coming here since before our founding.

Jesus (hay-soos), your ignorance is bottomless!

 

[Rocko]

The right claims to want less of those things, but they don't practice it.

Exactly. They feed you a bunch of bullshit about how they don't want those things, yet they pass legislation that regulates what you can and can't do with your own body.

i misread your post. The conservative position on abortion involves the rights of a third party. We keep telling you that, and you keep ignoring that and starting with a woman’s right to do whatever she wants with her body. At this point I don’t know if it’s stupidity or dishonesty. Either way it’s bad.

 

[Rocko]

The left wants more government involvement in our lives and the right wants more freedom for the people to succeed and fail on they’re own. In a nutshell

 

[Vandalshandle]

I knew that you could spin it! Congratulations!

That's "spin"? So you're saying that presidents agree with everything in every bill that they sign?

You're as dishonest and disingenuous as ever.

Not at all. I am saying that you agree with everything the republican presidents do, even if they do what democrat presidents do, which you firmly oppose.

 

[bendog]

...what the role of government should be in society? Is it accurate to say that left-wing ideology supports more government programs, more government management/oversight and higher taxes wherein right-wing ideology supports having LESS of those things?

We need more welfare for farmers, and Trump leads the way!

 

[bendog]

I knew that you could spin it! Congratulations!

That's "spin"? So you're saying that presidents agree with everything in every bill that they sign?

You're as dishonest and disingenuous as ever.

Not at all. I am saying that you agree with everything the republican presidents do, even if they do what democrat presidents do, which you firmly oppose.

Maybe not all gopers but just Trump

 

[bripat9643]

We're at full employement, remember? Trumpies brag about it every day.

So much for the "wetbax steel our jobz!" argument.

The deficit was DECREASING when the GOP took over. Trump has more than doubled it to a trillion dollars. Even if I stipulate your bullshit $120 billion a year claim, that still leaves $880 billion of massive overspending by Trump.

So much for the "because Mexicans" bullshit.

No, that isn't the end of the "illegal aliens steal American jobs" argument. Only an imbecile imagines that because things are good now, the illegal aliens aren't hurting us.

The deficit is irrelevant to the illegal alien problem, moron.

Mass immigration is a one way ticket to a one party america ruled by the socialist left.

We've had mass immigration since our Founding, dumbass. Your ancestors were immigrants.

For the first 100 years, it mostly came from Western Europe, not shit-hole countries like Mexico.

Um...retard?

Where do you think the names Texas and California and Florida and Nevada come from? Where do you think the names of cities like El Paso, La Jolla, San Francisco, Laredo and countless others come from?

Hispanics have been coming here since before our founding.

Jesus (hay-soos), your ignorance is bottomless!

Texas didn't become Texas until a bunch of Americans moved in. It was largely unpopulated prior to that. The same goes for California, Florida and Nevada. Their names are irrelevant.

 

[Brain357]

...what the role of government should be in society? Is it accurate to say that left-wing ideology supports more government programs, more government management/oversight and higher taxes wherein right-wing ideology supports having LESS of those things?

No. That’s imaginary. Look at all the government we are getting in trade.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I knew that you could spin it! Congratulations!

That's "spin"? So you're saying that presidents agree with everything in every bill that they sign?

You're as dishonest and disingenuous as ever.

Not at all. I am saying that you agree with everything the republican presidents do, even if they do what democrat presidents do, which you firmly oppose.

Maybe not all gopers but just Trump

I was a republican ever since we got that SOB, Nixon, out of office. Then they elected Cheney and his hand puppet, baby Bush. After that, they completely lost their minds with Palin, and now Trump. As far as I am concerned, there is no longer a GOP. I didn't leave the party. The party left me.

 

[Brain357]

I knew that you could spin it! Congratulations!

That's "spin"? So you're saying that presidents agree with everything in every bill that they sign?

You're as dishonest and disingenuous as ever.

Not at all. I am saying that you agree with everything the republican presidents do, even if they do what democrat presidents do, which you firmly oppose.

Maybe not all gopers but just Trump

I was a republican ever since we got that SOB, Nixon, out of office. Then they elected Cheney and his hand puppet, baby Bush. After that, they completely lost their minds with Palin, and now Trump. As far as I am concerned, there is no longer a GOP. I didn't leave the party. The party left me.

That’s similar to me. We got a balanced budget with Clinton and then bush ruined it. It’s been clear to me for years repubs aren’t for small government.

 

[Coyote]

Yup. The left supports a strong safety net which is funded through higher taxation. The right supports a weaker safety net, and minimal taxation.

So, generally speaking, the more government programs and taxation a community or nation has, the further to the left it is, correct?

No. Not necessarily. There is more to left and right than that.

 

[candycorn]

The right claims to want less of those things, but they don't practice it.

Some claim to be on the right just like some are Republicans but legislate like leftist Democrats. Still, there are many on the right that oppose government takeover of the health industry and the existence of the Department of Education and government involvement in the student-loan business, etc. Unfortunately, there aren't enough of us.

but these same people have no issue with the DOD getting larger and larger and larger.

Seems the difference is which part of the government they want bigger

the hilarious thing is at the same time, the same doofus who wants the military to be so powerful is the doofus that will tell you he wants to be able to have a rocket launcher because the military may try to seize power one day

 

[Brain357]

The right claims to want less of those things, but they don't practice it.

Some claim to be on the right just like some are Republicans but legislate like leftist Democrats. Still, there are many on the right that oppose government takeover of the health industry and the existence of the Department of Education and government involvement in the student-loan business, etc. Unfortunately, there aren't enough of us.

but these same people have no issue with the DOD getting larger and larger and larger.

Seems the difference is which part of the government they want bigger

the hilarious thing is at the same time, the same doofus who wants the military to be so powerful is the doofus that will tell you he wants to be able to have a rocket launcher because the military may try to seize power one day

The same people who say single mothers is a problem also are strongly anti abortion. Telling women what they can do with their bodies sure isn’t small gov.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Defense is mandated by the Constitution.

The National Endowment for the Arts is not.

Yes, defense is. What we do goes well beyond defense.

The best defense is a good offense. Otherwise you get caught short and your newly-conscripted troops train with wooden rifles. Does WW1 ring a bell?

you continue to make my point for me. The only difference is which parts of the government you want bigger and which parts you want to spend money we do not have on

So you have a president who wants to cut the government and drain the swamp and you have establishment liberals on both sides fighting against him. What is worse is idiots like you who support the establishment pukes.

Pretty sure Johnson was not an establishment puke

Pretty sure he was, just like the guy before him