Do we agree that a fundamental difference between the right and the left is...

[Harpy Eagle]

If only those were not our only two choices....oh wait they aren’t

How many votes did the guy you voted for get?

not enough because too many people have been brainwashed into the duopoly

Given how you keep defending leftists, it's funny how you think you're not.

Feel free to provide a single example of me doing so.

Why? You'd just deny it. Again.

Translation: I do not have jack shit...

I accept your surrender.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

We are all socialists now!--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed. No socialism is not communism. You are kept terminally confused, super dupers.

Finland is not Socialist.
All you idiots that keep saying we want to be Socialists like the Scandinavian Countries are -
They are not Socialists.

They arent. The right often claims they are.

Um
No.

Every modern country is socialist, brainwashed functional morons. All of the EU and Scandinavia Canada the UK Australia New Zealand had Japan....we are the richest country in the world and yet we are the only modern country without a living wage Health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great vacations and great infrastructure. And mainly they taxthe rich and giant corporations their fair share.

It is almost as if decades of voting for the lesser or two evils was not a good strategy.

If people had been voting Democrat the whole time, America would be a third-world nation already. Electing Republicans occasionally has merely delayed the flushing.

...and all this time, I have been thinking that JFK and LBJ put us light years ahead of the Soviets in space!

If JFK was getting his political career started today, he'd be run out of the Democratic Party.

"Ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what you can do for your country."

Oh so very NOT a liberal view.

What a load of crap. Public service is the a thing that the new GOP is trying to wreck respect for. Deep State my ass. There are now so many phony scandals that have been discredited they have to go with the entire world is a conspiracy against them now LOL-- Man scary how effective this GOP garbage hate character assassination and phony scandal and misinformation propaganda is.
This is ridiculous.

Denmark to American leftists: We’re not socialist

Which countries in the world do you view as socialist?

 

[Dr Grump]

Conservatives believe in thy self. They are selfish, egotistical twats.

you even mention a community getting together to help each other out, at best they're a bunch of socialists, at worst dirty commies.

Fucking idiots.

 

[francoHFW]

We are all socialists now!--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed. No socialism is not communism. You are kept terminally confused, super dupers.

Finland is not Socialist.
All you idiots that keep saying we want to be Socialists like the Scandinavian Countries are -
They are not Socialists.

They arent. The right often claims they are.

Um
No.

Every modern country is socialist, brainwashed functional morons. All of the EU and Scandinavia Canada the UK Australia New Zealand had Japan....we are the richest country in the world and yet we are the only modern country without a living wage Health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great vacations and great infrastructure. And mainly they taxthe rich and giant corporations their fair share.

It is almost as if decades of voting for the lesser or two evils was not a good strategy.

If people had been voting Democrat the whole time, America would be a third-world nation already. Electing Republicans occasionally has merely delayed the flushing.

...and all this time, I have been thinking that JFK and LBJ put us light years ahead of the Soviets in space!

If JFK was getting his political career started today, he'd be run out of the Democratic Party.

"Ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what you can do for your country."

Oh so very NOT a liberal view.

What a load of crap. Public service is the a thing that the new GOP is trying to wreck respect for. Deep State my ass. There are now so many phony scandals that have been discredited they have to go with the entire world is a conspiracy against them now LOL-- Man scary how effective this GOP garbage hate character assassination and phony scandal and misinformation propaganda is.
This is ridiculous.

Denmark to American leftists: We’re not socialist

Socialism is fair capitalism always Democratic with a good safety net. Perhaps they went too far like Sweden and have brought it back down. But it's still not communism which is what you people think LOL. Thank you Bernie for ending that cold war propaganda. We used to be a world leader. Now we're going backwards thanks to garbage propaganda, brainwashed functional morons. The worst inequality ever anywhere in the modern world and the worst upward Mobility are not imaginary. Tax the rich and bring back cheap college and training, good infrastructure and finish off Obamacare with a public option at the least.....

 

[K9Buck]

You got that exactly backwards.

A big tenet of right-wing ideology is economic freedom. Leftists like Bernie oppose the free-market, capitalist system. Are you telling me that Bernie is "far-right"?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You got that exactly backwards.

A big tenet of right-wing ideology is economic freedom. Leftists like Bernie oppose the free-market, capitalist system. Are you telling me the Bernie is "far-right"?

uhhh....Trump oppose the free-market, capitalist system...tariffs are the opposite of the free-market

 

[daveman]

How many votes did the guy you voted for get?

not enough because too many people have been brainwashed into the duopoly

Given how you keep defending leftists, it's funny how you think you're not.

Feel free to provide a single example of me doing so.

Why? You'd just deny it. Again.

Translation: I do not have jack shit...

I accept your surrender.

Ask me if I care.

 

[daveman]

Finland is not Socialist.
All you idiots that keep saying we want to be Socialists like the Scandinavian Countries are -
They are not Socialists.

They arent. The right often claims they are.

Um
No.

Every modern country is socialist, brainwashed functional morons. All of the EU and Scandinavia Canada the UK Australia New Zealand had Japan....we are the richest country in the world and yet we are the only modern country without a living wage Health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great vacations and great infrastructure. And mainly they taxthe rich and giant corporations their fair share.

If people had been voting Democrat the whole time, America would be a third-world nation already. Electing Republicans occasionally has merely delayed the flushing.

...and all this time, I have been thinking that JFK and LBJ put us light years ahead of the Soviets in space!

If JFK was getting his political career started today, he'd be run out of the Democratic Party.

"Ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what you can do for your country."

Oh so very NOT a liberal view.

What a load of crap. Public service is the a thing that the new GOP is trying to wreck respect for. Deep State my ass. There are now so many phony scandals that have been discredited they have to go with the entire world is a conspiracy against them now LOL-- Man scary how effective this GOP garbage hate character assassination and phony scandal and misinformation propaganda is.
This is ridiculous.

Denmark to American leftists: We’re not socialist

Which countries in the world do you view as socialist?

Not Denmark. They said so.

But Venezuela? Definitely socialist. Such a success story!

 

[Dr Grump]

Not Denmark. They said so.
But Venezuela? Definitely socialist. Such a success story!

I know. Nothing to do with US-led sanctions. Same as Cuba....talk about throwing your toys out of the cot...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Not Denmark. They said so.

But Venezuela? Definitely socialist. Such a success story!

Thanks.

So, the people in our country pushing for more "socialism" are they pushing for a system like Denmark or Venezuela?

 

[daveman]

Conservatives believe in thy self. They are selfish, egotistical twats.

you even mention a community getting together to help each other out, at best they're a bunch of socialists, at worst dirty commies.

Fucking idiots.

A community getting together to help each other out is fantastic, and is a conservative value.

A community having things taken from them and given to others by threat of government violence? That sucks -- and it's a liberal value.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

not enough because too many people have been brainwashed into the duopoly

Given how you keep defending leftists, it's funny how you think you're not.

Feel free to provide a single example of me doing so.

Why? You'd just deny it. Again.

Translation: I do not have jack shit...

I accept your surrender.

Ask me if I care.

if you did not, you would not have replied.

 

[daveman]

Not Denmark. They said so.

But Venezuela? Definitely socialist. Such a success story!

Thanks.

So, the people in our country pushing for more "socialism" are they pushing for a system like Denmark or Venezuela?

They say it's Denmark (even though Denmark is not socialist -- just ask them!), but history shows it would turn out like Venezuela.

 

[daveman]

Given how you keep defending leftists, it's funny how you think you're not.

Feel free to provide a single example of me doing so.

Why? You'd just deny it. Again.

Translation: I do not have jack shit...

I accept your surrender.

Ask me if I care.

if you did not, you would not have replied.

Uh huh. I might have some proof for you in a minute.

 

[K9Buck]

Conservatives believe in thy self. They are selfish, egotistical twats.

you even mention a community getting together to help each other out, at best they're a bunch of socialists, at worst dirty commies.

Fucking idiots.

Conservatives believe in charity, but not the practice of subsidizing able-bodied people who don't want to work. The entitlement mentality has turned many productive people into public parasites which isn't good for anybody. I am happy to support truly disadvantaged people (quadriplegics, the blind, etc.) but most people on public assistance are able-bodied. Do you disagree with this point of view?

 

[Dr Grump]

So, the people in our country pushing for more "socialism" are they pushing for a system like Denmark or Venezuela?

They say it's Denmark (even though Denmark is not socialist -- just ask them!), but history shows it would turn out like Venezuela.[/QUOTE]

If you know your history you'll know that the Scandinavian countries had a leftish bent long before Hugo Chavez came to power in Venezuela. They seem to be doing okay.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Feel free to provide a single example of me doing so.

Why? You'd just deny it. Again.

Translation: I do not have jack shit...

I accept your surrender.

Ask me if I care.

if you did not, you would not have replied.

Uh huh. I might have some proof for you in a minute.

my heart flutters in anticipation!

 

[K9Buck]

They say it's Denmark (even though Denmark is not socialist -- just ask them!), but history shows it would turn out like Venezuela.

The problem with a place like Venezuela, along with many others, is that it has a history of government corruption. It's difficult for government to be beneficial for the people when the government is, in fact, ripping off the people. A welfare-state system of governance might work fine in Denmark because they have a tradition and culture of following the law. Running such a system in Venezuela and expecting that it will work is a fool's errand. The only way to fix some of those governments is to scrap it altogether and start all over.

 

[yidnar]

conservatives love America ...dems dont ....thats one of the biggest differences .

 

[K9Buck]

Scandinavian countries had a leftish bent long before Hugo Chavez came to power in Venezuela. They seem to be doing okay.

They are free-market capitalists because they need free-market capitalism to pay for all of their social programs.