DrDoomNGloom
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“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem.
Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise.
But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”
― Barry M. Goldwater "Mr. Conservative"
You folks are scared of God and the Christian religion.
Just as in Rome the Christians came in a put an end to that filth and perversion.
Under Christian rule
Attitudes toward same-sex behavior changed as Christianity became more prominent in the Empire. The modern perception of Roman sexual decadence can be traced to early Christian polemic.[194] Apart from measures to protect the liberty of citizens, the prosecution of homosexual acts as a general crime began in the 3rd century of the Christian era when male prostitution was banned by Philip the Arab. A series of laws regulating homosexual acts were promulgated during the social crisis of the 3rd century, from the statutory rape of minors to gay marriage.[195]
By the end of the 4th century, passive homosexual acts under the Christian Empire were punishable by burning.[196] "Death by sword" was the punishment for a "man coupling like a woman" under the Theodosian Code.[197] It can be argued, however, that legislation under Christian rule was an extension of traditional Roman views on appropriate gender roles, and not an abrupt shift based on Christian theology. It is in the 6th century, under Justinian, that legal and moral discourse on homosexuality becomes distinctly Christian:[198] all same-sex acts, passive or active, no matter who the partners, were declared contrary to nature and punishable by death.[199] Homosexual behaviors were pointed to as causes for God's wrath following a series of disasters around 542 and 559.[200]
The circumstances surrounding the massacre of Thessalonica in 390 suggest that even in the late 4th century same-sex behavior was still accepted in large parts of the population, while officially prosecuted.[citation needed] When a popular charioteer was arrested for having sexually harassed an army-commander or servant of the emperor, the people of the town were calling for his release, though this is more likely due to his popularity than to the nature of the allegation.[
Homosexuality in ancient Rome - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
What you seem to fail to realize is,these people are acting in the name of Christian religion. You keep wanting to portray religious entities as believing in mythical sky fairies like they are mental nut jobs.
I have stated this before and for your dumb ass will state it again, religions are societal road maps that tells one how to interact with a specific sub set of the general populous.
If all your childish mentality sees is a mythical sky fairy, then we all understand you are just not mentally capable of seeing the big picture.
There are many religions out there in which homosexuality is taboo, the part you are failing to realize is people do have a choice about who they associate with or not. No amount of legislation will ever change that fact.
Christians view homosexuality as an abomination, a disease of pure self pleasure from a weak person who lacks self control or an individual who is so socially retarded they don't know how to interact with the opposite sex.
Christians view the sexual acts committed by same sex couples as vile and evil with only thoughts of self indulgence or simply control over another............
By the way, I noticed you are too retarded to discuss this, you are good at putting out worthless propaganda, pretty much otherwise a dumb fuck devoid of intellectual thought.
Wiki sometimes offers one point of view that doesn't really hold up under scholarly scrutiny.
Stanford has pulled together a pretty good history of views about homosexuality and the cultures that existed over time in the Roman Empire here:
Homosexuality Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
The more puritanical and restrictive laws did not come about until well into the Middle Ages when the Roman Empire was pretty much faded in anybody's memory, and what most of us would now consider archaic laws were just as restrictive on heterosexuals as they were on homosexuals. And since those laws are now a matter of history and not part of modern day culture, I'm pretty sure we can safely dismiss them as relevent to this discussion.
So far not a single brave soul has dared even acknowledge, much less address my question posed yesterday:
Why isn't there public outrage, demonstrations, protests, boycotts, etc. of Muslim bakeries, florists, flower shops etc. who refuse to provide services for same sex weddings? Why are only Christians evil if they do that?
And if the Muslims are not to be subject to the same treatment as Christians, how is that not discriminating against Christians?
Why would you do that shit??
So we are talking the same Standford University in California(land of fruit's and nut's) that has 85 Democratic teachers and only 8 Republican teachers??
You would cherry pick data from a left leaning institution to try and counter the wiki(which has no political bias)??
I smell BS, surprising you get that view point ....................
Homosexuality in Rome
See also: Roman homosexuality
After Greece, Rome is the next most significant entity in the history of homosexuality, and this cultural practice in both is understood by scholars as being what the apostle Paul is immediately referring to in condemning homosexuality in Romans 1.[25] Romans emperors were sometimes the most notorious examples of homosexuality. Edward Gibbon, in his History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, wrote that "of the first fifteen emperors Claudius was the only one whose taste in love was entirely correct (not homo-sexual].[26]
Juvenal (60-140 A.D.) and Martial (c. 40-102 A.D.) wrote of formal marriage unions between homosexuals. Some moral philosophers around the time of the apostle Paul questioned the merits of homosexual behaviors. Seneca (4 B.C-65 A.D.), a statesmen and tutor to the homosexual emperor Nero, reproved homosexual exploitation, such which which forced a slave to shave his beard, and dress and behave as a women,[27] though Nero himself castrated a boy, and dressed him as female and married him, after killing his wife.[28] Dio Chrysostom (A.D. 40) likewise condemned such exploitation, and commended natural intercourse" and union of the male and female.[29] Later, in 226 B.C., the Lex Scantinia (149 B.C.) is understood to have penalized homosexual practice.
According to psychiatrist and sexual historian Norman Sussman, "In contrast to the self-conscious and elaborate efforts of the Greeks to glorify and idealize homosexuality, the Romans simply accepted it as a matter of fact and as an inevitable part of human sexual life. Pederasty was just another sexual activity. Many of the most prominent men in Roman society were bisexual if not homosexual. Julius Caesar was called by his contemporaries every woman's man and every man's woman."[30]
Many see Rome realizing a deleterious change in aspects of social morality beginning in the second century B.C, due to the influence and adaptation of "Asiatic luxury and Greek manners", including homosexuality, resulting in a "moral crises from which she never recovered (historian D. Earl)[31]
Edward Gibbon, stated in his “History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” that marital faithfulness in the Roman Empire was virtually unknown, and that “The dignity of marriage was restored by the Christians.”[32]
History of homosexuality - Conservapedia
