Do you believe the official 911 story?

[eots]

The obvious question is this: Why fly planes into buildings AND plant explosives?
Why not just plant the explosives and blame the muslims? OR just let the muslims fly the planes into the buildings?
Do they have to collapse to give Bush an excuse to go to war? No. This conspiracy theory is ridiculous in so many ways.
Besides the fact that there was no reason to do BOTH, do you realize how difficult it would be to coordinate BOTH?
More people involved, more chance of getting caught. This is silly in every way. It makes no sense, and it shows the how utterly stupid and gullible some people can be.

GULLIBLE ONES THAT BLINDLY BELIEVE AN OFFICE FIRE CAN CAUSE THIS EFFECT

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A]wtc 7 collapse - YouTube[/ame]

 

[S.J.]

The obvious question is this: Why fly planes into buildings AND plant explosives?
Why not just plant the explosives and blame the muslims? OR just let the muslims fly the planes into the buildings?
Do they have to collapse to give Bush an excuse to go to war? No. This conspiracy theory is ridiculous in so many ways.
Besides the fact that there was no reason to do BOTH, do you realize how difficult it would be to coordinate BOTH?
More people involved, more chance of getting caught. This is silly in every way. It makes no sense, and it shows the how utterly stupid and gullible some people can be.

GULLIBLE ONES THAT BLINDLY BELIEVE AN OFFICE FIRE CAN CAUSE THIS EFFECT

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A]wtc 7 collapse - YouTube[/ame]

Answer the obvious question then. Why do both? And answer in your OWN words, not with some video.

 

[eots]

speculation..lets stick to the facts.. buildings like this do not collapse in secs from an office fire

 

[S.J.]

speculation..lets stick to the facts.. buildings like this do not collapse in secs from an office fire

Let's stick to common sense.

 

[paulitician]

No.

 

[Freewill]

speculation..lets stick to the facts.. buildings like this do not collapse in secs from an office fire

What would be the motive for WTC7?

Why would they let the building burn for so long then decide to set off the charges that no one on that day saw brought into the building? Who is going to take explosives into a burning building? Who is going to take a chance on a building burning for several hours with explosives already in the building?

World Trade Center 7 Report Puts 9/11 Conspiracy Theory to Rest - Popular Mechanics

 

[Freewill]

speculation..lets stick to the facts.. buildings like this do not collapse in secs from an office fire

What? What proof do you have of this? Where was the experiment run on a building like WTC7 that proves your statement?

 

[editec]

Do you believe the official 911 story?

Not really, no.

 

[AVG-JOE]

I dont believe the official story is 100% of the story. But I believe the official story tells a large part of the truth, and probably 10-20% of the truth is being held back.

That said, I dont think Bush and Cheney bombed those buildings. I think pissed off Muslims did.

They both made a contribution to pissing off the Muslims.

Angry Muslims don't kill people, they're just the tools, people kill people.

Does that mean angry Muslims aren't people?

Does that really matter in this particular conversation?

 

[eots]

speculation..lets stick to the facts.. buildings like this do not collapse in secs from an office fire

What would be the motive for WTC7?

Why would they let the building burn for so long then decide to set off the charges that no one on that day saw brought into the building? Who is going to take explosives into a burning building? Who is going to take a chance on a building burning for several hours with explosives already in the building?

World Trade Center 7 Report Puts 9/11 Conspiracy Theory to Rest - Popular Mechanics

Operation Northwoods was a series of false flag proposals that originated within the United States government in 1962, but were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[2] The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or other operatives, to commit perceived acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro.[3] One part of Operation Northwoods was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington".
Operation Northwoods proposals included hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:
The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.
Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense. Although part of the U.S. government's Cuban Project anti-communist initiative, Operation Northwoods was never officially accepted; it was authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy.
According to currently released documentation, none of the operations became active under the auspices of the Operation Northwoods proposals.

Operation Northwoods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[eots]

speculation..lets stick to the facts.. buildings like this do not collapse in secs from an office fire

Let's stick to common sense.

Indeed use some common sense the NIST collapse theory is ludicrous 47 stories of steel and concrete can not silently fall behind the curtain of a facade and then the facade crumble in secs uniformly from realively small office fires ..its pure madness

 

[SAYIT]

speculation..lets stick to the facts.. buildings like this do not collapse in secs from an office fire

What would be the motive for WTC7?

Why would they let the building burn for so long then decide to set off the charges that no one on that day saw brought into the building? Who is going to take explosives into a burning building? Who is going to take a chance on a building burning for several hours with explosives already in the building?

World Trade Center 7 Report Puts 9/11 Conspiracy Theory to Rest - Popular Mechanics

Operation Northwoods was a series of false flag proposals that originated within the United States government in 1962, but were rejected by the Kennedy administration.[2] The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or other operatives, to commit perceived acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro.[3] One part of Operation Northwoods was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington".
Operation Northwoods proposals included hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:
The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.
Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense. Although part of the U.S. government's Cuban Project anti-communist initiative, Operation Northwoods was never officially accepted; it was authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy.
According to currently released documentation, none of the operations became active under the auspices of the Operation Northwoods proposals.

Operation Northwoods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That really sweet but failed to answer the question. WTC 7 burned for hours. If there were explosives in the building the fires would have set them off willy nilly. As of this post no evidence of demo rigging or controlled demo of any WTC building has surfaced. None. It's all in your head, Princess.

 

[SAYIT]

speculation..lets stick to the facts.. buildings like this do not collapse in secs from an office fire

Let's stick to common sense.

Indeed use some common sense the NIST collapse theory is ludicrous 47 stories of steel and concrete can not silently fall behind the curtain of a facade and then the facade crumble in secs uniformly from realively small office fires ..its pure madness

WTC 7 burned for hours. If there were explosives in the building - and there would have to have been a lot - the fires would have set them off willy nilly. As of this post no evidence of demo rigging or controlled demo of any WTC building has surfaced. None. The madness is in your head, Princess.

 

[paulitician]

How could anyone believe the the official 9/11 story?

 

[eots]

Let's stick to common sense.

Indeed use some common sense the NIST collapse theory is ludicrous 47 stories of steel and concrete can not silently fall behind the curtain of a facade and then the facade crumble in secs uniformly from realively small office fires ..its pure madness

WTC 7 burned for hours. If there were explosives in the building - and there would have to have been a lot - the fires would have set them off willy nilly. As of this post no evidence of demo rigging or controlled demo of any WTC building has surfaced. None. The madness is in your head, Princess.

there is nothing left of charges when they are set off and why would there have to be a lot ?..according to NIST the failure of a single column intiated the collapse

 

[Mr. Jones]

The obvious question is this: Why fly planes into buildings AND plant explosives?

To assure the destruction of problem buildings that were deemed for dismantling years prior by the Port Authority. To able to claim a terrorist attack destroyed your properties and collect insurance payouts. To horrify America, blame the nemies of Israel and use the stupid gullible Americans to fight Israels enemies.

Why not just plant the explosives and blame the muslims? OR just let the muslims fly the planes into the buildings?

How can you claim you had adequate security after the 19993 bombing and then just be so incompetent to let "Muslims" "sneak" in and plant CD rigging? "Muslims" are said to have flown the planes!
By passing American air defenses for 2 hours because "coincidentally" there were terror drills and war games simulating almost the same scenario as was happening in real life and time. Have you not bothered to even research a topic that you post about?

Do they have to collapse to give Bush an excuse to go to war? No.

They had to be fully destroyed to get rid of the problems they WTC towers were known to have. Besides how much to repair the damage vs rebuilding with new ones AND taking care of the asbestos problems and outdated workings?

This conspiracy theory is ridiculous in so many ways.

The official conspiracy is what is ridiculous. Perhaps you will notice just how so upon you doing a little further research about the 9-11 attacks and it's military objectives, and who was in positions of authority that could have helped facilitate it...A little physics and science will help you to understand why there are so many who are against the explanations of how and why the 3 buildings collapsed..You do know there were 3 that collapsed...don't you?

Besides the fact that there was no reason to do BOTH, do you realize how difficult it would be to coordinate BOTH?

Really tell us all how? When only a handful of strategically placed people in positions of authority, with the help of insiders at the WTC in charge of security, recruit a few idiot fanatics with stolen passports and ID's and use remote guidance technology of the planes, which a key member was involved with..

More people involved, more chance of getting caught. This is silly in every way. It makes no sense, and it shows the how utterly stupid and gullible some people can be.

You make no sense with your assumptions and show how very little you actually know about what happened, who was involved, and the credible people that have spoken out in protest of the official conspiracy theory!
Things like this operation are very compartmentalized, with very few people having to know anything to pull it off. People suspected of being involved in this false flag attack are said to be within the Bush administration, the WTC leaseholder who had control of the security, and the same security at the airports. Israel, and its Mossad, and the crews who rigged the 3 buildings...Probably less the 100 people, including those who played the lopsided put options in the stock market..
Do you realize how many people were involved during the Manhattan Project and sworn to secrecy. Do you realize how much power and financial and military resources the criminals who did 9-11 have?
Do you think that any people who can kill 3000 Americans would have any hesitation to dispose of any others who posed any threat to their plans or expose them after wards?


You have a lot of research to do and a lot of learning as well, before you can say how silly anything is with any assured confidence.

 

[Mr. Jones]

The obvious question is this: Why fly planes into buildings AND plant explosives?
Why not just plant the explosives and blame the muslims? OR just let the muslims fly the planes into the buildings?
Do they have to collapse to give Bush an excuse to go to war? No. This conspiracy theory is ridiculous in so many ways.
Besides the fact that there was no reason to do BOTH, do you realize how difficult it would be to coordinate BOTH?
More people involved, more chance of getting caught. This is silly in every way. It makes no sense, and it shows the how utterly stupid and gullible some people can be.

GULLIBLE ONES THAT BLINDLY BELIEVE AN OFFICE FIRE CAN CAUSE THIS EFFECT

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD06SAf0p9A]wtc 7 collapse - YouTube[/ame]

Answer the obvious question then. Why do both? And answer in your OWN words, not with some video.

Videos are a great way to drive a point home and provide valuable information and reduce typing all fucking day, which by how little you know about this topic would be easier when trying to bring you up to speed...Unless of course you may be sight impaired, then I could understand some discomfort on your part, but you still have audio right?

 

[Mr. Jones]

speculation..lets stick to the facts.. buildings like this do not collapse in secs from an office fire

What would be the motive for WTC7?

Why would they let the building burn for so long then decide to set off the charges that no one on that day saw brought into the building? Who is going to take explosives into a burning building? Who is going to take a chance on a building burning for several hours with explosives already in the building?

World Trade Center 7 Report Puts 9/11 Conspiracy Theory to Rest - Popular Mechanics

Popular Mechanics? Please Michael Chertoff's cousin was tasked with a strawman filled BS article that does not address any of the real objections to the OCT.
It is speculated that WTC 7 was the intended target for flight 93, as it was the last plane left, AND the towers were already gone, exposing 7 for a direct hit.
No one LOL, placed any CD rigging into a burning building that is just stupid and impossible to even assume!
We all know that rigging a building takes weeks or months to complete! They had to have been pre planted with CD rigging months before..Who was the leaseholder? What are his affiliations and connections? Who headed security??

 

[candycorn]

You really have to wonder how come those who believe there were bombs planted, US government planning, faked phone calls, evidence planted, etc... are so hesitant to simply write a narrative as to what they think happened on 9/11. I mean...it's been going on 12 years; surely they have formulated some sort of story to lay out what they think happened....

What are they afraid of?

 

[Mr. Jones]

You really have to wonder how come those who believe there were bombs planted, US government planning, faked phone calls, evidence planted, etc... are so hesitant to simply write a narrative as to what they think happened on 9/11. I mean...it's been going on 12 years; surely they have formulated some sort of story to lay out what they think happened....

What are they afraid of?

There are many theories one can read, the question is why lie about what really happened and cover it up? What are the perpetrators of the OCT afraid of? Why don't the 9-11 Commission panelists even believe what they were told? The evidence that has come forward in the last 12 years that shows the lies told regarding the 9-11 attacks and the subsequent wars are readily available for one to research. As to why nothing has been done about it, a good long hard look into who is in charge could answer some of that. I suppose anyone could just take on the powerful forces and waltz into a courtroom tho?
Your CT is as phoney as the fucks the people "elect" and the news outlets that are too controlled to bring anything 9-11 related to light.