Do you have a problem with Tennessee's "curbs [for] trans treatment and drag for children"?

[Seymour Flops]

Diverse gender expressions, much like diverse gender identities, are not indications of a mental disorder.

That's actually a good point.

Gender expression is not a mental disorder. Therefore, no medical treatment of it is indicated.

 

[Curried Goats]

That's actually a good point.

Gender expression is not a mental disorder. Therefore, no medical treatment of it is indicated.

Do you even know what gender expression is? Who said it required medical treatment?

 

[Mac-7]

No kids under 18 allowed around this stuff, period. That includes any kind of surgery or medical procedure. Psychological assistance? You bet.

And, we stop trying to celebrate and normalize gender dysphoria and start treating it for what it is: A serious psychological/physiological disorder.

Should these people be ostracized for having this condition? Of course not. But at the same time, making a public spectacle of it is a stupid idea and has obviously (and predictably) backfired bigly. WHY the ends of our spectrum feel they just HAVE to fucking OVERCOMPENSATE for EVERYTHING remains a mystery.

How have conservatives that mac1958 agrees with on this issue overcompensated?

 

[j-mac]

I do not have a problem with body altering, non-reversible medical procedures being denied to anyone that is not trusted to make the right decision when it comes to drinking a beer.

I agree children should not be part of any sexual type of show, drag or not. I have not seen how the law defines "drag" so it does make you wonder if one could get arrested for taking a child to see Hairspray or letting them watch Bosom Buddies

No, that's not what they are talking about....These are movies, or TV shows....The lawmakers are talking about these stories of 'all ages drag brunches' and so on, that we have seen video, after video happening....

 

[Harpy Eagle]

No, that's not what they are talking about....These are movies, or TV shows....The lawmakers are talking about these stories of 'all ages drag brunches' and so on, that we have seen video, after video happening....

Have you read the law?

 

[Couchpotato]

Have you read the law?

I’ll answer for him. No.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Equation:

Psychologically pressuring and physically Irreversible actions + Kids under the age of consent
=
Abuse.

The left simply thinks abusing children
Is acceptable to support their ideology. They claim to stand for victims, but offer No sympathy for the thousands of broken and damaged detransitioners. These actual real victims need to be silenced because talking about it is hateful to their movement

 

[Fueri]

See these are just pejoratives. No real argument to be seen yet.

Nope. Still haven't managed one. Try harder little Timmy, you'll get there.

You see no argument, because you will not believe anything that contradicts your delusion, which, of course, is a hallmark of delusional people.

Look, you've checked another box on the the road to nutville! Congratulations!

 

[j-mac]

Have you read the law?

I have to confess, that I haven't....But, I will now, and get back to you...

 

[j-mac]

Golfing Gator

Ok, I have the law up now....

"This bill creates an offense for a person who engages in an adult cabaret performance on public property or in a location where the adult cabaret performance could be viewed by a person who is not an adult."

Tennessee General Assembly Legislation

Ok, so how does this negate what I said to you?

 

[Curried Goats]

You see no argument, because you will not believe anything that contradicts your delusion, which, of course, is a hallmark of delusional people.

Look, you've checked another box on the the road to nutville! Congratulations!

You've presented no reasoned argument thus far little guy. But you keep at it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Do you even know what gender expression is? Who said it required medical treatment?

Everyone who advocates that children or adults be given hormones if they express that they are a different gender than their biological sex.

 

[Curried Goats]

Everyone who advocates that children or adults be given hormones if they express that they are a different gender than their biological sex.

Nope. Gender expression is how people choose to present to the world. The way they decide to dress (masculine, feminine, androgynous, etc..), or speak or how they wear their hair, things like that.

 

[Fueri]

You've presented no reasoned argument thus far little guy. But you keep at it.

I don't have to disprove a clear delusion that is a mental illness.

You presented the case of a boy that it turned was groomed by his mother, then ignored that clear evidence, because truly delusional people ignore anything that contradicts their delusion.

The problem lies with the delusional one, not with those pointing out their mental illness.

You keep on being crazy, that's fine, just stay away from children while in your mentally ill state.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Nope. Gender expression is how people choose to present to the world. The way they decide to dress (masculine, feminine, androgynous, etc..), or speak or how they wear their hair, things like that.

And nobody who dresses as the opposite gender is ever given hormones?

 

[Curried Goats]

I don't have to disprove a clear delusion that is a mental illness.

That's not how debate works Short Bus. If you make a claim, such as gender dysphoria is a delusion and mental illness for instance, it's on you to provide evidence to support that claim. That's how rational arguments are constructed.

You presented the case of a boy that it turned was groomed by his mother, then ignored that clear evidence, because truly delusional people ignore anything that contradicts their delusion.

The problem lies with the delusional one, not with those pointing out their mental illness.

You keep on being crazy, that's fine, just stay away from children while in your mentally ill state.

You are not a mental health professional and as such are in no position to judge anyones mental health.

 

[Curried Goats]

And nobody who dresses as the opposite gender is ever given hormones?

What does that have to do with you not knowing what gender expression is? Gender expression and hormone treatments are two different things you Dipshit. One requires the sign off of a medical professional and the other does not.

 

[Fueri]

That's not how debate works Short Bus. If you make a claim, such as gender dysphoria is a delusion and mental illness for instance, it's on you to provide evidence to support that claim. That's how rational arguments are constructed.

You are not a mental health professional and as such are in no position to judge anyones mental health.

No, you're entire position is based on delusion.

That delusion is a mental illness. I don't have to debate clear facts, and doubly so when a delusional person ignores evidence, which you've aleady done here.

You're mentally ill youself or have bought into the relatavistic truth that is the base of all of this nonsense, in which case you're a useful idiot and pose a danger to society in general and children in particular.

 

[Seymour Flops]

What does that have to do with you not knowing what gender expression is? Gender expression and hormone treatments are two different things you Dipshit. One requires the sign off of a medical professional and the other does not.

A medical profiteer of the transgender industry.

I do get the difference between gender dysphoria and gender expression, and it is the exact point that I'm making. Teachers, counselors, and other school staff need to stop pushing children who express a gender difference into medicalizing that expression. Just stay the heck out of medicine altogether, if you're not a medical professional. If a child truly may have gender dysphoria, their pediatrician is the one who should determine whether to refer them to a specialist, and the parent to determine whether to accept that referral.

Non-professionals who just like the idea of young girls with penises and post videos of them on this thread need to stay out of it.

Way out.

 

[Curried Goats]

No, you're entire position is based on delusion.

That delusion is a mental illness. I don't have to debate clear facts, and doubly so when a delusional person ignores evidence, which you've aleady done here.

You're mentally ill youself or have bought into the relatavistic truth that is the base of all of this nonsense, in which case you're a useful idiot and pose a danger to society in general and children in particular.

You won't because you can't and because you're a bitch.