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Now Mary, when I was very young, the meat that our family had was mostly venison, occasional bear, and, later, elk. That we got from my father hunting. Today, I still have my hunting guns, and, when I finally retire, if I move to a rural area, I will hunt once more. The meat is of far higher quality, and, if you live by the forest, less costly. I will never own a war weapon, and will only hunt when it make economic sense. That said, most that have guns have no need of them. And all too many should not have guns, because of mental deficiencies or lack of understanding their danger.You people are smarter than me, you know all the angles. I am realizing something here. How oblivious people can be to the obvious. It's rather disconcerting. If instead this was, say about illegal aliens, or gay marriage , you jolly chaps would be all over that. We all have our special issues that blind us to reality. This gun thing is one of them. I despise illegals, I revile gay marriage. But gun ownership is hands down the #1 issue, bar none. I can do without this "right" to have a firearm, I am totally good without a gun. Remind me again, why we NEED guns? Accept to protect ourselves from others WITH guns? That's a cyclical argument. If they didn't have guns, we wouldn't need them .
The field of psychiatry should be utilized, of course.
Do you plan on giving a full psychiatric exam to everyone that fills out a registration form? Or just the ones who don't look right to you.
You people are smarter than me, you know all the angles. I am realizing something here. How oblivious people can be to the obvious. It's rather disconcerting. If instead this was, say about illegal aliens, or gay marriage , you jolly chaps would be all over that. We all have our special issues that blind us to reality. This gun thing is one of them. I despise illegals, I revile gay marriage. But gun ownership is hands down the #1 issue, bar none. I can do without this "right" to have a firearm, I am totally good without a gun. Remind me again, why we NEED guns? Accept to protect ourselves from others WITH guns? That's a cyclical argument. If they didn't have guns, we wouldn't need them .
My hunting rifles are tools. The assault rifle is a weapon of war. What fun it must be for these 'Conservatives' to fantasize about being the fellow on the 32nd floor, with those automatic rifles.Living in your mental masturbation fantasy world again?
A gun is just a tool to most of us
We need guns only to defend "us" from other people with guns, or secondly, to get food. That is your argument(s) in a nutshell. And yeah, there is this major trip up, the second amendment. We need guns oh, we need guns. because guns nutters tell us we need them . That asswhipe in Vegas had 47 guns and mowed down countless people. Wouldn't one worked just as well? Nobody in that crowd shot back. Telling isn't it?“There is this weird AmeYou guys watch top gear? rican fantasy we NEED guns. Do we?”
Irrelevant.
Citizens are not required to justify the exercising of a fundamental right as a ‘prerequisite’ to indeed do so.
The issue is not ‘needing’ to own a gun – the issue is what firearm regulatory measures are Constitutional and which are not.
There is nothing in the 2nd Amendment that specifies need as a requirement.
My hunting rifles are tools. The assault rifle is a weapon of war. What fun it must be for these 'Conservatives' to fantasize about being the fellow on the 32nd floor, with those automatic rifles.Living in your mental masturbation fantasy world again?
A gun is just a tool to most of us
The Vegas shooter did not have automatic weapons, but he did have semi-automatic weapons that were made to fire like fully automatic weapons...
This thread and it's pro gun posters, amazes me. We have mass shooting by people that never should have had a gun, yet you people defend that? What, you pro gun people want to give a wink and nod or a medal to Stephen Paddock? You guys love guns more than you love human beings. You disgust me. More reasons to repeal the 2nd amendment.
No, they are not at that liberty. The Const explicitly says that no govt in the U.S. can make laws that infringe the right to own and carry guns.Citizens are at liberty to seek to place limits on the rights enshrined in the Second Amendment through the political process, where their elected representatives enact firearm regulatory measures.
So their "elected representatives" are forbidden to "enact firearm regulatory measures".
Nice try.
P.S. Of course, many of those representatives simply violate that part of the Constitution any time it pleases them. The biggest mistake the Framers made when writing the Const and Bill of Rights, is leaving out a statement declaring penalties for lawmakers who violate them.
You guys love guns more than you love human beings.
My hunting rifles are tools. The assault rifle is a weapon of war. What fun it must be for these 'Conservatives' to fantasize about being the fellow on the 32nd floor, with those automatic rifles.Living in your mental masturbation fantasy world again?
A gun is just a tool to most of us
The Vegas shooter did not have automatic weapons, but he did have semi-automatic weapons that were made to fire like fully automatic weapons...
A distinction without a difference.
They're the lobbying arm of the profiteers.Not one thoughtful response by the gun lovers to this post:
"The NRA opposes every effort by anyone who wants a safe and sane gun policy. They fund suits to sue cities and counties who want to place any & all restrictions on guns and ammo, and scapegoat the mentally ill with no apparent concern for their rights - typical of callous conservatives like you."
One example is all they need to offer where the NRA supported gun control measures.
Not one example of an NRA supported gun control measure.
Q. Do they enable domestic and foreign terrorists
A. YES!
My hunting rifles are tools. The assault rifle is a weapon of war. What fun it must be for these 'Conservatives' to fantasize about being the fellow on the 32nd floor, with those automatic rifles.Living in your mental masturbation fantasy world again?
A gun is just a tool to most of us
The Vegas shooter did not have automatic weapons, but he did have semi-automatic weapons that were made to fire like fully automatic weapons...
A distinction without a difference.
It is Illegal to convert a Semi into a fully automatic weapon, so let cut the nonsense because you already have laws that criminals ignore...
I mean how much clearer does it have to be that mass murder or any form of murder ( except abortion ) is against the law!?!
I am more likely to die because of someone like you that abuses his driving privileges by driving slow in a fast lane while on the cell and wanting to exit four lanes over and cutting everyone off.
My point?
Simple, death is going to happen and Vegas along with all mass shootings are horrible, but people are more likely to die from being fat and not eating correctly than being shot to death.
So now you know there are laws and criminals do not care and more laws will not stop the criminal but will make more criminals to feed the prison system with...
Like I said, a distinction without a difference.It is Illegal to convert a Semi into a fully automatic weapon, so let cut the nonsense because you already have laws that criminals ignore...
You consider a gun a tool without being well regulated? What an unorganized weirdo.So is porn, to some of us; I routinely practice not judging women by the clothes they don't wear, on the Internet and try to port it to real life, whenever I have the presence of mind to do so.Living in your mental masturbation fantasy world again?
A gun is just a tool to most of us
You consider porn a tool? What a little weirdo..
We need a War on Terror Tax and, a "build more prisons" tax.no one said to.You cannot incarcerate more people and lower taxes.Problem is liberals block every law to make gun crime have a mandatory jail sentence, and they want to let people OUT of prisons. WTF is wrong with them?A free society has inherent risks.
Almost all gun owners are responsible, just like most people who drink alcohol don't drive drunk and kill people.
Some do.
Consider Drunk Driving and the impact of MADD when a minority of mother's said "'Enough!"
The NRA enables the few who are criminals to easily obtain a firearm and ammo. And those emotionally attached to their guns enable them too. Either you and others who support a 2nd A. as an absolute had better begin to find a means to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, for more and more citizens will say "Enough!".
We already do.....there are background checks at gun stores, and if a you commit a crime with a gun you go to jail....if you are a felon caught with a gun, you go to jail....
Of course....stopping criminals isn't the point...taking guns away from the people who don't use them to commit crimes is the point....
Silly gun lovers. You are supposed to love your republic as much or more, as you love your guns.Just because I have sex with my guns does not mean I am mentally ill, you bigot!!!Your obsession with firearms is pathological, a fetish for guns needs to be ruled out by a competent shrink
Respect my sexual preference!
Becoming well regulated is not outlawed; the right wing simply refuses to muster to become, more well regulated.If guns are outlawed, only criminal liberals will have guns. You know it's true.
What games, don't "illegals" have to play? I would rather be legal, every day of the week.The benefit is if you need a gun you can have one. The deficit is if you need one you can die crying wishing you had one. The thing is that the criminals don't need to play this stupid game.It will never happen. There's way too many non-moonbats in America.You hunt. You live in Canada. They have supermarkets in Canada, don't they? We have a problem here in Yankeeland with gun toting madmen, perhaps you haven't noticed. Some of us yanks have had enough of this gunmania and want to really end that. Repealing the 2nd amendment to the American constitution.I fucking hunt. I hunt. When I lived in Tennessee I fucking hunted. I'm in Canada now. I FUCKING HUNT MY FOOD.
FUCK OFF.
The 2nd A. need not be repealed, for there is some truth to the meme that only then criminals will have guns. Gun Control does not and never has meant a repeal of the 2nd; it means we need to be rational and honestly disgust the benefits of gun ownership and the deficits of gun ownership.
You consider a gun a tool without being well regulated? What an unorganized weirdo.So is porn, to some of us; I routinely practice not judging women by the clothes they don't wear, on the Internet and try to port it to real life, whenever I have the presence of mind to do so.Living in your mental masturbation fantasy world again?
A gun is just a tool to most of us
You consider porn a tool? What a little weirdo..
Yes, it is. It is why, Only well regulated militia of the People are declared necessary to the security of a free State.Gun control is about violating the rights of the people.It will never happen. There's way too many non-moonbats in America.You hunt. You live in Canada. They have supermarkets in Canada, don't they? We have a problem here in Yankeeland with gun toting madmen, perhaps you haven't noticed. Some of us yanks have had enough of this gunmania and want to really end that. Repealing the 2nd amendment to the American constitution.I fucking hunt. I hunt. When I lived in Tennessee I fucking hunted. I'm in Canada now. I FUCKING HUNT MY FOOD.
FUCK OFF.
The 2nd A. need not be repealed, for there is some truth to the meme that only then criminals will have guns. Gun Control does not and never has meant a repeal of the 2nd; it means we need to be rational and honestly disgust the benefits of gun ownership and the deficits of gun ownership.
Well regulated militia of the whole and entire People are declared necessary to the security of a free State. The People who are the unorganized militia, are not declared necessary and may be Infringed, by those who are.Having spent a career in the military, I know I can use any one of my firearms against a home invader or, use the one I carry on my person against an armed assailant. No "hero" thoughts needed, just survival thoughts. As to gun control. We have numerous laws on the books already, all that is needed is for law enforcement and the judges to implement them to the maximum instead of "slaps-on-the-wrist" punishments.RWs have a child-like fantasy when it comes to guns. They delude themselves into dreaming of one day being an armed hero. This can range from taking down a home intruder to shooting fascist thugs trying to steal their liberty! The truth of the matter is that when it comes to pulling the trigger, many wouid puss out in such situations. The idea of it just gives them the feels so they insist on no gun control whatsoever.
Of course, what question they can’t answer is where they draw the line.
Do they want ANYONE to be able to carry fully automatic weapons anywhere, anytime? If that hypothetical is answered as a “no”, then what does that say about their 2nd amendment rights? It’s fallacious thinking, but these are republicans afterall.
As for where I personally draw the line: Walking around urban areas carrying semi-automatic rifles is absurd (if you want to carry such things around your farm, fine, as for those urban areas, a concealed carry permit and pistol is sufficient), RPG's, Claymores, anti-personnel mines, any explosives beyond fireworks, you know, ACTUAL military weapons exceed the line.
As for fully-automatic weapons, they became illegal in 1986 and in order to legally possess one, an individual has to possess a "federal firearms license."
My personal opinion regarding that a**hole in Las Vegas, was that he was there to be a martyr for the anti-gun people. He didn't need all of those firearms with him to commit the carnage he did. Photos show all the magazines he had piled up. He only needed two rifles and those magazines. He brought all those others to make a statement. He wanted to public to see all those weapons in the belief that by seeing that he possessed so many firearms and could kill so many people, that people would revolt against gun ownership.
There are over 300 million firearms legally in the hands of 80+ million private citizens who have not been and are not now a threat to the public. We use them for hunting, sport at the ranges and protection. Beyond that, we are none of your business. However, try to forcibly take them, and we will rebel.
