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Because I see it from both sides of this debate andI think Unkotare was referencing the bitter, envious, angry, Marxist "Sage of Mainstreet"
The wealthy make a profit off of every person they hire.Nothing I can do about people being billionaires. They played the system that was in place.That's the whole point. There shouldn't be any billionaires to begin with, because the system that created them also destroyed the middle class.We don’t need to take the wealth of Billionaires
But we also don’t need to bend over backwards to allow them to accumulate and maintain wealth
My only concern is...why should we keep that system?
When's the last time you got a job from a poor person?
It is the WORKERS who generate wealth
The wealthy make a profit off of every person they hire.Nothing I can do about people being billionaires. They played the system that was in place.That's the whole point. There shouldn't be any billionaires to begin with, because the system that created them also destroyed the middle class.We don’t need to take the wealth of Billionaires
But we also don’t need to bend over backwards to allow them to accumulate and maintain wealth
My only concern is...why should we keep that system?
When's the last time you got a job from a poor person?
It is the WORKERS who generate wealth
With the job provided BY the employer. Derp.
The wealthy make a profit off of every person they hire.Nothing I can do about people being billionaires. They played the system that was in place.That's the whole point. There shouldn't be any billionaires to begin with, because the system that created them also destroyed the middle class.
My only concern is...why should we keep that system?
When's the last time you got a job from a poor person?
It is the WORKERS who generate wealth
With the job provided BY the employer. Derp.
No shit Sherlock
The employees are generating wealth from which they receive a small portion in return
They are getting exactly what they asked forThe wealthy make a profit off of every person they hire.Nothing I can do about people being billionaires. They played the system that was in place.That's the whole point. There shouldn't be any billionaires to begin with, because the system that created them also destroyed the middle class.
My only concern is...why should we keep that system?
When's the last time you got a job from a poor person?
It is the WORKERS who generate wealth
With the job provided BY the employer. Derp.
No shit Sherlock
The employees are generating wealth from which they receive a small portion in return
No shit Sherlock
The employees are generating wealth from which they receive a small portion in return
Strong wage growth is over 5%. Current wage growth is weak...We have lots of jobs and wealth. Wages are are stagnant however...
Not exactly. When do you cave and admit that you are wrong about wages?
America Created 266,000 Jobs in November
JOHN CARNEY 6 Dec 2019
The imaginary recession of 2019 is over.
The U.S. economy added 266,000 jobs for the month and the unemployment rate fell to 3.5 percent, matching the lowest level in 50 years.
Economists had expected the economy to add 180,000 jobs and for unemployment to remain unchanged at 3.6 percent, according to Econoday.
Adding to the picture of strength for the labor market, previous jobs numbers were revised up. September’s figure was revised up by 13,000 to 193,000. October was revised up by 28,000 to 156,000. Together, that adds 41,000 more jobs than previously reported.
[...]
Average hourly wages are up 3.14 percent compared with last year, above economist expectations. In manufacturing, the average workweek increased by 0.1 hour to 40.5 hours. Average hourly ages of private-sector production and nonsupervisory employees rose by 7 cents in the month to $23.83, a 0.22 percent gain.
[...]
America Created 266,000 Jobs in November
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...economy-added-jobs-jobless-rate-fell-percent/
Wall Street soars after economy added robust 266,000 jobs in November
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The November hiring surge pushed incomes for Americans higher last month.
by JOHN CARNEY
20 Dec 2019
Incomes rose by half a percentage point in November, above economists’ forecasts and much better than the soft readings in September and October. This was the strongest gain since July, according to data from the Commerce Department on Friday.
Consumer spending rose at a 0.4 percent annual rate last month, led by a jump in spending on big-ticket durable goods like autos and appliances.
The higher spending is not due to rising prices. Inflation, as measured by the Federal Reserve’s preferred price indicator, is still running well below the Fed’s 2 percent target. It came in at just 1.5 percent for November compared with a year ago.
And despite the rise in consumer spending, Americans are saving more. The saving rate edged up to 7.9 percent of after-tax income in November.
Christmas Cheer: Incomes Jumps Higher, Consumer Spending Soars
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US employment remains strong, 145,000 jobs added in December
By JOSH BOAK AP Economics Writer
January 10, 2020, 7:07 PM
U.S. employers downshifted their hiring in December, adding 145,000 jobs as consumer spending appeared to aid gains in the retail and hospitality sectors
US employment remains strong, 145,000 jobs added in December
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Manufacturing Surveys Indicate Growth Returning to U.S. Factories
JOHN CARNEY
16 Jan 2020
The U.S. manufacturing sector appears to be regaining its footing, suggesting the beaten-down sector may once again be expanding.
The Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia’s survey-based index of manufacturing activity soared to 17 in January, up from the weak 0.3 reading in December and well-above forecasts for a reading of 3.0.
Manufacturing Surveys Indicate Growth Returning to U.S. Factories
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Merry Christmas: Retail Sales Grew at Healthy Pace in December
16 Jan 2020
Retail sales rose at a healthy pace in December, a sign that a very healthy U.S. labor market and consumer optimism is continuing to support economic growth.
The Commerce Department said Thursday that retail sales–which measures sales at stores, online, and in restaurants–increased a seasonally adjusted three-tenths of a percentage point in December compared with November to $529.6 billion. That was in line with the consensus forecast.
Merry Christmas: Retail Sales Grew at Healthy Pace in December
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More MAGA Winning: Gallup Poll Has NEVER Recorded This Level Of Economic Optimism
Written by K. Walker on February 6, 2020
[...]
Americans feel better about their personal financial situation than they did under Obama, Clinton, or even Reagan. This year-to-year number has been rising since 2018 and has hit a 44-year record high according to Gallup’s “Mood of the Nation” economic survey. Gallup reports that 59% of Americans — nearly six in 10 — say that they are better off financially than they were a year ago, which is up from 50% last year.
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There has also been a sharp decline in the percentage of people who say that they are financially worse off than a year ago. Only 20% of Americans are stating that as their financial reality, and that is a record low.
[...]
More MAGA Winning: Gallup Poll Has NEVER Recorded This Level Of Economic Optimism
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Strong wage growth is over 5%. Current wage growth is weak...
What are you basing that stupidity on?Strong wage growth is over 5%. Current wage growth is weak...
Why? By how much should, in the ideal world, wage growth exceed that of inflation, if at all?
The 2018 inflation rate was 2.49%. The current inflation rate (2019 to 2020) is now 2.05%.
What are you basing that stupidity on?Strong wage growth is over 5%. Current wage growth is weak...
Why? By how much should, in the ideal world, wage growth exceed that of inflation, if at all?
The 2018 inflation rate was 2.49%. The current inflation rate (2019 to 2020) is now 2.05%.![]()
The questions are too complex for you?
Man Up and Take the Upper Class Down"My Way or the Highway" Means That Your Way is the Low WaySo the wealthy giving a job to a poor person is not altruistic......that is how they generate wealthSo what?The wealthy make a profit off of every person they hire.
It is the WORKERS who generate wealth
People willingly agree to sell their labor to an employer.
Do you really think that a business should just break even?
Running a business just to break even is a sure way to go out of business
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People freely choose to sell their labor to an employer and if they don't like one employer they are free to sell their labor to another
Sure, I'll buy that—and the plutocrats are free to start over in a 3d World 7 Families country after the employees who created all their wealth take it all back.
Tell then if employees are capable of making wealth why do they need to work for someone else?
if all these employees are so smart, capable and hard working then why aren't they making themselves wealthy instead of working for someone else?
No one is forcing you or anyone else to work for anyone. you CHOOSE to sell your time for dollars to an employer. You do this of your own free will so quit fucking whining already
Corporate Inventors Need to Unionize and Force the Plutariat to Give Them 50% of the Value of These PatentsThe wealthy make a profit off of every person they hire.Nothing I can do about people being billionaires. They played the system that was in place.That's the whole point. There shouldn't be any billionaires to begin with, because the system that created them also destroyed the middle class.
My only concern is...why should we keep that system?
When's the last time you got a job from a poor person?
It is the WORKERS who generate wealth
With the job provided BY the employer. Derp.
No shit Sherlock
The employees are generating wealth from which they receive a small portion in return
Man Up and Take the Upper Class Down"My Way or the Highway" Means That Your Way is the Low WaySo the wealthy giving a job to a poor person is not altruistic......that is how they generate wealthSo what?
People willingly agree to sell their labor to an employer.
Do you really think that a business should just break even?
Running a business just to break even is a sure way to go out of business
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
People freely choose to sell their labor to an employer and if they don't like one employer they are free to sell their labor to another
Sure, I'll buy that—and the plutocrats are free to start over in a 3d World 7 Families country after the employees who created all their wealth take it all back.
Tell then if employees are capable of making wealth why do they need to work for someone else?
if all these employees are so smart, capable and hard working then why aren't they making themselves wealthy instead of working for someone else?
No one is forcing you or anyone else to work for anyone. you CHOOSE to sell your time for dollars to an employer. You do this of your own free will so quit fucking whining already
A company is a team, not a one-man show. We far outnumber your plutocratic slavemasters and their mooching sons, so we can crush them like grapes. You're right; it's time to quit whining. It's time to start making wine. Crunch, crunch; squish, squish.
You don't seem to realize that most businesses aren't owned by the 1%Man Up and Take the Upper Class Down"My Way or the Highway" Means That Your Way is the Low WaySo the wealthy giving a job to a poor person is not altruistic......that is how they generate wealthSo what?
People willingly agree to sell their labor to an employer.
Do you really think that a business should just break even?
Running a business just to break even is a sure way to go out of business
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
People freely choose to sell their labor to an employer and if they don't like one employer they are free to sell their labor to another
Sure, I'll buy that—and the plutocrats are free to start over in a 3d World 7 Families country after the employees who created all their wealth take it all back.
Tell then if employees are capable of making wealth why do they need to work for someone else?
if all these employees are so smart, capable and hard working then why aren't they making themselves wealthy instead of working for someone else?
No one is forcing you or anyone else to work for anyone. you CHOOSE to sell your time for dollars to an employer. You do this of your own free will so quit fucking whining already
A company is a team, not a one-man show. We far outnumber your plutocratic slavemasters and their mooching sons, so we can crush them like grapes. You're right; it's time to quit whining. It's time to start making wine. Crunch, crunch; squish, squish.
We are not talking about taxing a small business owner making $100k a yearYou don't seem to realize that most businesses aren't owned by the 1%Man Up and Take the Upper Class Down"My Way or the Highway" Means That Your Way is the Low WaySo the wealthy giving a job to a poor person is not altruistic......that is how they generate wealth
People freely choose to sell their labor to an employer and if they don't like one employer they are free to sell their labor to another
Sure, I'll buy that—and the plutocrats are free to start over in a 3d World 7 Families country after the employees who created all their wealth take it all back.
Tell then if employees are capable of making wealth why do they need to work for someone else?
if all these employees are so smart, capable and hard working then why aren't they making themselves wealthy instead of working for someone else?
No one is forcing you or anyone else to work for anyone. you CHOOSE to sell your time for dollars to an employer. You do this of your own free will so quit fucking whining already
A company is a team, not a one-man show. We far outnumber your plutocratic slavemasters and their mooching sons, so we can crush them like grapes. You're right; it's time to quit whining. It's time to start making wine. Crunch, crunch; squish, squish.
They are owned by hard working people who took a huge risk and started a business.
People who work for others are not forced to do so. They can leave any job at any time and find another person who will pay for their time or they can take a risk and be self employed or start their own business
You want to demonize some small business owner who maybe makes 100K a year and who provides jobs for people in his community
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Bullshit you idiots don't even realize that the 1% does not own the vast majority of businessesWe are not talking about taxing a small business owner making $100k a yearYou don't seem to realize that most businesses aren't owned by the 1%Man Up and Take the Upper Class Down"My Way or the Highway" Means That Your Way is the Low WayPeople freely choose to sell their labor to an employer and if they don't like one employer they are free to sell their labor to another
Sure, I'll buy that—and the plutocrats are free to start over in a 3d World 7 Families country after the employees who created all their wealth take it all back.
Tell then if employees are capable of making wealth why do they need to work for someone else?
if all these employees are so smart, capable and hard working then why aren't they making themselves wealthy instead of working for someone else?
No one is forcing you or anyone else to work for anyone. you CHOOSE to sell your time for dollars to an employer. You do this of your own free will so quit fucking whining already
A company is a team, not a one-man show. We far outnumber your plutocratic slavemasters and their mooching sons, so we can crush them like grapes. You're right; it's time to quit whining. It's time to start making wine. Crunch, crunch; squish, squish.
They are owned by hard working people who took a huge risk and started a business.
People who work for others are not forced to do so. They can leave any job at any time and find another person who will pay for their time or they can take a risk and be self employed or start their own business
You want to demonize some small business owner who maybe makes 100K a year and who provides jobs for people in his community
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We are talking about taxing billionaires
Vast majority are small business, mom and popBullshit you idiots don't even realize that the 1% does not own the vast majority of businessesWe are not talking about taxing a small business owner making $100k a yearYou don't seem to realize that most businesses aren't owned by the 1%Man Up and Take the Upper Class Down"My Way or the Highway" Means That Your Way is the Low Way
Sure, I'll buy that—and the plutocrats are free to start over in a 3d World 7 Families country after the employees who created all their wealth take it all back.
Tell then if employees are capable of making wealth why do they need to work for someone else?
if all these employees are so smart, capable and hard working then why aren't they making themselves wealthy instead of working for someone else?
No one is forcing you or anyone else to work for anyone. you CHOOSE to sell your time for dollars to an employer. You do this of your own free will so quit fucking whining already
A company is a team, not a one-man show. We far outnumber your plutocratic slavemasters and their mooching sons, so we can crush them like grapes. You're right; it's time to quit whining. It's time to start making wine. Crunch, crunch; squish, squish.
They are owned by hard working people who took a huge risk and started a business.
People who work for others are not forced to do so. They can leave any job at any time and find another person who will pay for their time or they can take a risk and be self employed or start their own business
You want to demonize some small business owner who maybe makes 100K a year and who provides jobs for people in his community
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We are talking about taxing billionaires
You're so blinded by your jealousy that you cannot be rational about anything
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Man Up and Take the Upper Class Down"My Way or the Highway" Means That Your Way is the Low WaySo the wealthy giving a job to a poor person is not altruistic......that is how they generate wealthSo what?
People willingly agree to sell their labor to an employer.
Do you really think that a business should just break even?
Running a business just to break even is a sure way to go out of business
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
People freely choose to sell their labor to an employer and if they don't like one employer they are free to sell their labor to another
Sure, I'll buy that—and the plutocrats are free to start over in a 3d World 7 Families country after the employees who created all their wealth take it all back.
Tell then if employees are capable of making wealth why do they need to work for someone else?
if all these employees are so smart, capable and hard working then why aren't they making themselves wealthy instead of working for someone else?
No one is forcing you or anyone else to work for anyone. you CHOOSE to sell your time for dollars to an employer. You do this of your own free will so quit fucking whining already
A company is a team, not a one-man show. We far outnumber your plutocratic slavemasters and their mooching sons, so we can crush them like grapes. You're right; it's time to quit whining. It's time to start making wine. Crunch, crunch; squish, squish.