Do You Worship Life, or Worship Death?

[SweetSue92]

5. What, exactly, is the job requirement for working for Beelzebub?

“Human sacrifice is the act of killing one or more humans, usually as an offering to a deity, as part of a ritual. Human sacrifice has been practiced in various cultures throughout history. Victims were typically ritually killed in a manner intended to please or appease gods, spirits or the deceased, for example, as a propitiatory offering or as a retainer sacrifice when a king's servants are killed in order for them to continue to serve their master in the next life. Closely related practices found in some tribal societies are cannibalism and headhunting.[1]

By the Iron Age, with the associated developments in religion (the Axial Age), human sacrifice was becoming less common throughout the Old World, and came to be looked down upon as barbaric in classical antiquity. In the New World, however, human sacrifice continued to be widespread to varying degrees until the European colonization of the Americas.”
Human sacrifice - Wikipedia





6. This is the major difference between worshiping God, and worship of the Lord of the Flies.

“ In Genesis 22, God tests Abraham's obedience by asking him to sacrifice Isaac, his only son. ... withheld your son, your only son, I will surely bless you and make your ... Abraham knew or didn't know about the practice of human sacrifice ...

But the angel of the LORD called out to him from heaven, 'Abraham! Abraham!' 'Here I am,' he replied. 12 Do not lay a hand on the boy,' he said. 'Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.'

No human sacrifices in the Judeo-Christian faith!


In the long history of Christian or Jewish martyrdom, there wasn't one person who killed another to be a martyr. But here was a theology of Muslim martyrdom where you kill innocent people and go to heaven and God will bless a terrible act like that. I have said to Muslims, 'You've got to condemn it' and they say 'I have condemned it.' But they don't condemn the theology behind it."
Phillips, “Londonistan,” p. 143



But.....there is a major 'religion' for which human sacrifice and slaughter of innocents is a hallmark....

....and the major political party in America embraces that cult, and endorses the sacrifice of the unborn.

Clear what they worship, huh?

The core of the Christian religion is human sacrifice. If human sacrifice wasn't so popular, his death would not have been marketed that way.

Yupp.

Sacrificed himself...TO himself...to APPEASE himself for HIS creation's sins.

JuuuUUuUuSt about as psychotic as Donald Dufus

I'd forgotten your animus toward him. lol
I see him as a guy who wanted to inject some spirituality into a hidebound religion that had forgotten its heart. Simple as that.

Both dead wrong. But of course Old Lady probably considers herself some form of Christian. Tragically.

 

[Baron]

Do you choose the Judeo-Christian doctrines,

Please do not spread politically correct lie: there are not any Judeo-Christian 'doctrines', but only Christian ones.
Its entirely history until today Christianity has been persecuted by Jews and Judaism.

 

[OldLady]

5. What, exactly, is the job requirement for working for Beelzebub?

“Human sacrifice is the act of killing one or more humans, usually as an offering to a deity, as part of a ritual. Human sacrifice has been practiced in various cultures throughout history. Victims were typically ritually killed in a manner intended to please or appease gods, spirits or the deceased, for example, as a propitiatory offering or as a retainer sacrifice when a king's servants are killed in order for them to continue to serve their master in the next life. Closely related practices found in some tribal societies are cannibalism and headhunting.[1]

By the Iron Age, with the associated developments in religion (the Axial Age), human sacrifice was becoming less common throughout the Old World, and came to be looked down upon as barbaric in classical antiquity. In the New World, however, human sacrifice continued to be widespread to varying degrees until the European colonization of the Americas.”
Human sacrifice - Wikipedia





6. This is the major difference between worshiping God, and worship of the Lord of the Flies.

“ In Genesis 22, God tests Abraham's obedience by asking him to sacrifice Isaac, his only son. ... withheld your son, your only son, I will surely bless you and make your ... Abraham knew or didn't know about the practice of human sacrifice ...

But the angel of the LORD called out to him from heaven, 'Abraham! Abraham!' 'Here I am,' he replied. 12 Do not lay a hand on the boy,' he said. 'Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.'

No human sacrifices in the Judeo-Christian faith!


In the long history of Christian or Jewish martyrdom, there wasn't one person who killed another to be a martyr. But here was a theology of Muslim martyrdom where you kill innocent people and go to heaven and God will bless a terrible act like that. I have said to Muslims, 'You've got to condemn it' and they say 'I have condemned it.' But they don't condemn the theology behind it."
Phillips, “Londonistan,” p. 143



But.....there is a major 'religion' for which human sacrifice and slaughter of innocents is a hallmark....

....and the major political party in America embraces that cult, and endorses the sacrifice of the unborn.

Clear what they worship, huh?

The core of the Christian religion is human sacrifice. If human sacrifice wasn't so popular, his death would not have been marketed that way.

Yupp.

Sacrificed himself...TO himself...to APPEASE himself for HIS creation's sins.

JuuuUUuUuSt about as psychotic as Donald Dufus

I'd forgotten your animus toward him. lol
I see him as a guy who wanted to inject some spirituality into a hidebound religion that had forgotten its heart. Simple as that.

Both dead wrong. But of course Old Lady probably considers herself some form of Christian. Tragically.

So Jesus wasn't spiritual in your mind? And he wasn't Jewish?
No, I don't buy the religion. Don't worry--I won't muddy your pond.

 

[badger2]

OP's question hinges on whether god is life or death. Death is inescapably linked to life, so a good way to make yourself a nazi is to burn the Jew named Freud, especially his passages on the death drive.

'Man must negate the desire for finite beings in order to become one with god. Hence, Eckhart formulates a clear version of the religious ideal of absolute immunity....If God only can be conceived as Nothing, it is not because He is ineffable but because the pure life of God would be nothing but pure death. Eckhart himself is quite clear that the way to unity with God (the via negativa) is achieved through an inner "destruction" of all bonds to created beings for the benefit of the uncreated God. The object of attachment must be "absolutely nothing," since everything that is something is created and mortal:

"Perfect detachment pays no attention to creatures. It is without lowliness and loftiness. It has not interest in being below or above. It is intent on being master of itself, loving no one and hating no one, having neither this nor that, being neither like or unlike any creature. The only thing it would like to be is the same. But it has no desire at all to be this or that. He who is this or that is something; but detachment is absolutely nothing."

Eckhart here describes the absolute immunity that according to his conception of desire is "the best." But if we follow the logic of autoimmunity, we can see that it is "the worst." As I have argued, there can be no cure for the autoimmunity of finitude, since the threat of death is located (within [italics]) whatever is desired. This autoimmunity of finitude answers to what Derrida calls radical evil.'
(Haegglund, Radical Atheism: Derrida and the Time of Life)

 

[PoliticalChic]

OP's question hinges on whether god is life or death. Death is inescapably linked to life, so a good way to make yourself a nazi is to burn the Jew named Freud, especially his passages on the death drive.

'Man must negate the desire for finite beings in order to become one with god. Hence, Eckhart formulates a clear version of the religious ideal of absolute immunity....If God only can be conceived as Nothing, it is not because He is ineffable but because the pure life of God would be nothing but pure death. Eckhart himself is quite clear that the way to unity with God (the via negativa) is achieved through an inner "destruction" of all bonds to created beings for the benefit of the uncreated God. The object of attachment must be "absolutely nothing," since everything that is something is created and mortal:

"Perfect detachment pays no attention to creatures. It is without lowliness and loftiness. It has not interest in being below or above. It is intent on being master of itself, loving no one and hating no one, having neither this nor that, being neither like or unlike any creature. The only thing it would like to be is the same. But it has no desire at all to be this or that. He who is this or that is something; but detachment is absolutely nothing."

Eckhart here describes the absolute immunity that according to his conception of desire is "the best." But if we follow the logic of autoimmunity, we can see that it is "the worst." As I have argued, there can be no cure for the autoimmunity of finitude, since the threat of death is located (within [italics]) whatever is desired. This autoimmunity of finitude answers to what Derrida calls radical evil.'
(Haegglund, Radical Atheism: Derrida and the Time of Life)

What a thoughtful post.

I certainly wish others were capable of same.


The premise is the the force called God embraces and champions life.

The dark force, the negative, the Devil is in so very many ways associated, linked, with death.

Death is embraced, favored, championed by

a. those in the examples in the OP, specifically MS13


b. the Muslim President, who had as his 'adviser,' a man who claimed that post-birth abortion....murder of infants....should be legalizes


c. in chapter 22 of Genesis we see that God does not allow human sacrifice.....the Devil's advocates do.


d. In the long history of Christian or Jewish martyrdom, there wasn't one person who killed another to be a martyr. You know which 'religion' demands murder.


e. The Left, clearly servants of the dark powers, controls the schools and the media to the extent that they can ridicule and marginalize followers of God.

Their argument is that the existence of God cannot be proven....but neither can the efficacy of communism, yet a front runner of the Democrat Party is a communist.


f. The most common method of advancing evil is by lying, and not only does that 'religion' tell its adherents to lie, but the Democrats, Liberals, socialists, Progresssives do it far more than they tell the truth: "We will take the United States under labels we have made very lovable; we will take it under liberalism, under progressivism, under democracy."


g. Believers worship life, and the future, while the followers of evil claim life is meaningless....'nihilism'....which is why the former have far more children, with their faith in the future.


h. Did I mention how the Left, the worshipers of evil, love death?

Millions have died for communism and Nazism, and hundreds of thousands in the slaughter of the unborn.


i. Consistent with their view of death, Democrat Obamacare rations healthcare, and orders the elderly to accept death.


j. The two great revolutions attest to the distinction. The French abjured religion, the American made it part of their memorializing documents.

The French version resulted in over a half million deaths.

And, of course, the French Revolution was the model for the Russian Revolution, and led to Mao and Pol Pot.


k. Islam is a perfect example of this thesis: "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.”

It's God vs the Devil.

l. Obama's mentor Alinsky, admitted his admiration, love, of the Devil.







I say that the two forces in conflict in the world are one that is in favor of life....and the other in favor of death.



The former is represented, or generated, by God, and the latter, by the Devil.

 

[PoliticalChic]

OP's question hinges on whether god is life or death. Death is inescapably linked to life, so a good way to make yourself a nazi is to burn the Jew named Freud, especially his passages on the death drive.

'Man must negate the desire for finite beings in order to become one with god. Hence, Eckhart formulates a clear version of the religious ideal of absolute immunity....If God only can be conceived as Nothing, it is not because He is ineffable but because the pure life of God would be nothing but pure death. Eckhart himself is quite clear that the way to unity with God (the via negativa) is achieved through an inner "destruction" of all bonds to created beings for the benefit of the uncreated God. The object of attachment must be "absolutely nothing," since everything that is something is created and mortal:

"Perfect detachment pays no attention to creatures. It is without lowliness and loftiness. It has not interest in being below or above. It is intent on being master of itself, loving no one and hating no one, having neither this nor that, being neither like or unlike any creature. The only thing it would like to be is the same. But it has no desire at all to be this or that. He who is this or that is something; but detachment is absolutely nothing."

Eckhart here describes the absolute immunity that according to his conception of desire is "the best." But if we follow the logic of autoimmunity, we can see that it is "the worst." As I have argued, there can be no cure for the autoimmunity of finitude, since the threat of death is located (within [italics]) whatever is desired. This autoimmunity of finitude answers to what Derrida calls radical evil.'
(Haegglund, Radical Atheism: Derrida and the Time of Life)

1. If we are speaking of the same, things, then God is capitalized.

2. "Death is inescapably linked to life, so a good way to make yourself a nazi is to burn the Jew named Freud, especially his passages on the death drive."

Not certain why you focus on Freud....that's fingernails on a blackboard to me.

If one needs to advance the idea of all powerful, beneficent, omniscient government will take care of all one's wants and needs, the Left's mantra, and that one need no morality nor self-responsibility, well then,....

....turn to Sigmund Freud as your spokesperson.


Valuable to the collectivists is Freud’s claim that people are not endowed with free will.

Here's what they don't want you to know:

“Freud was a charlatan, …He was a quack who routinely proscribed measuring to patients, then wrote fictional papers bragging about his phenomenal results. In one 1896 lecture, he claimed that by uncovering childhood sexual trauma he had healed some eighteen patients, he later admitted he hadn’t cured anyone.”
Ben Shapiro, “The Right Side Of History,” p. 166



Basing their ideas on science and reason.....is Freud 'science'?
Nope.....
Who says not?
He does.

“Freud's claims skirted falsifiability, the quality of being testable, a bedrock of the scientific method. Resistance to his lurid suggestions, he argued, meant only that he was onto something; heads I win, tails you really do want to fellate your father. He also conspired to excommunicate any analyst from the movement who dared to subject his ideas to critical scrutiny.

As Freud wrote to a close colleague, he was only "fantasizing, interpreting, and guessing" toward "bold but beautiful revelations." He claimed: "I am actually not at all a man of science, not an observer, not an experimenter, not a thinker. I am by temperament nothing but a conquistador."https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ad0011a4f70f




Freud….a pillar of Leftist doctrine.
Like Obama and Mueller.....a fraud.

 

[PoliticalChic]

OP's question hinges on whether god is life or death. Death is inescapably linked to life, so a good way to make yourself a nazi is to burn the Jew named Freud, especially his passages on the death drive.

'Man must negate the desire for finite beings in order to become one with god. Hence, Eckhart formulates a clear version of the religious ideal of absolute immunity....If God only can be conceived as Nothing, it is not because He is ineffable but because the pure life of God would be nothing but pure death. Eckhart himself is quite clear that the way to unity with God (the via negativa) is achieved through an inner "destruction" of all bonds to created beings for the benefit of the uncreated God. The object of attachment must be "absolutely nothing," since everything that is something is created and mortal:

"Perfect detachment pays no attention to creatures. It is without lowliness and loftiness. It has not interest in being below or above. It is intent on being master of itself, loving no one and hating no one, having neither this nor that, being neither like or unlike any creature. The only thing it would like to be is the same. But it has no desire at all to be this or that. He who is this or that is something; but detachment is absolutely nothing."

Eckhart here describes the absolute immunity that according to his conception of desire is "the best." But if we follow the logic of autoimmunity, we can see that it is "the worst." As I have argued, there can be no cure for the autoimmunity of finitude, since the threat of death is located (within [italics]) whatever is desired. This autoimmunity of finitude answers to what Derrida calls radical evil.'
(Haegglund, Radical Atheism: Derrida and the Time of Life)

I love it when posts are documented, and give sources, and cite tomes.....

...but the one you chose seems to have a particular definition of life.....and death.....not of the colloquial.


And, with reference to Hägglund's book, 'Atheism' doesn't require a modifier any more than justice does ('social justice.)

Thanks again for an interesting post.

 

[badger2]

There's plenty to discuss because the topic is an intriguing one.

1. god is capitalized only when quoting another author's texts when the word is capitalized in that text. Otherwise, an atheist does not believe in a non-existent entity called god who is supposed to care about a group. We can clearly see how Homo sapiens, since hominidism, went wrong with the confounding of signifiers such as god and the earth. We will call this mistake the Theogonic Mistake.

2. A focus on the Freudian death drive because it explains why it is a life drive, though that still does not make it a religious drive. The other aspects mentioned about Freud are debatable.

Haegglund is quoting Meister Eckhart, a xian mystic. How do we integrate the term 'colloquial' here?

 

[badger2]

If one can somewhat safely interchange the term "worship" with the term "making it," then Nick Land's take on the Freudian death drive (one of Freud's most unpopular works) may add to the discussion. There is a video to listen to or the article to read on the same youtube page, which latter will be reviewed to find the pertinent passage:

Nick Land, Making It With Death: Remarks On Thanatos and Desiring Production

 

[PoliticalChic]

There's plenty to discuss because the topic is an intriguing one.

1. god is capitalized only when quoting another author's texts when the word is capitalized in that text. Otherwise, an atheist does not believe in a non-existent entity called god who is supposed to care about a group. We can clearly see how Homo sapiens, since hominidism, went wrong with the confounding of signifiers such as god and the earth. We will call this mistake the Theogonic Mistake.

2. A focus on the Freudian death drive because it explains why it is a life drive, though that still does not make it a religious drive. The other aspects mentioned about Freud are debatable.

Haegglund is quoting Meister Eckhart, a xian mystic. How do we integrate the term 'colloquial' here?

I'm gonna stick to the subject of the thread.....there is a force, God, whose gift is life, and a very different force, that loves death.

 

[badger2]

We will thus move the life-death discussion to A Believer's Guide to Atheism thread to refute any force defined as god unless god is subtracted from the forces of the cosmos and earth. In that way we can address the initial deception illusion of Homo sapiens, the illusion of the theogonic traditionally defined as god.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"In a sign of just how far Western Civilisation has declined, the most dangerous place for a child to be is in her mother’s womb. Similarly, if the rest of Australia follows the leftist fad being currently pursued in states such as Victoria, then euthanasia laws will slowly erode our sense that life is sacred, as well as the belief that doctors should protect our lives.

...sadly, to speak up in defence of the unborn or the elderly is almost certain to provoke disagreement, disdain and even outrage....

...the ‘reproductive rights’ bill currently before the NSW Parliament amounts to nothing less than “infanticide on demand”.
The Elderly and Babies are Refugees Too

 

[bruzz]

1.When put in that fashion, it appears a simple question. But when taken to the central nature of said worship, not so simple:

Do you worship God, or do you worship the Devil?

Do you choose the Judeo-Christian doctrines, or the combinations of Devil worship?




What???No one worships, serves, the Devil today? You couldn’t be more wrong.

2. “Satanism and devil worship is alive in America today even if the nation as a whole has become less religious. The notion of deals with the devil are, if anything, more common than they were just a few years ago … and murders in the name of the devil are probably more common than you might think they are. They’re definitely more grisly. Western Civilization has a long history of fearing the devil and sometimes even worshipping him.”
26 Facts About Satanic Murder, Pacts, And Myths You Might Regret Knowing




3.“SATANIC SACRIFICE
Sex-mad devil worshippers murder four people in gruesome ritual after becoming convinced human sacrifice would grant them power over women, cops say

DEVIL worshippers slaughtered four people in bizarre rituals believing the sacrifices would give them the powers to pull women, cops claim.

The victim's body parts, found in a village in north east Brazil, were allegedly used to adorn a 'altar' used during bizarre blood-drinking rituals to summons Satan.” Sex-mad Satanists murder 4 in gruesome ritual ‘to gain power over women’



4. “Most feared gang in America 'sacrifices teenage girl to Satan'
An infamous street gang from Los Angeles is believed to have murdered at least eight people across the US over the last month, including teenage school students some of whom it is claimed were killed as part of satanic rituals.

Members of Mara Salvatrucha, also known as MS-13,…” Devil worshiping gang 'sacrificed a teenage girl to Satan'





“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn’t exist.”

And I can bring the question a lot closer to the beliefs of over 60 million voters….

Producers Defend “The Bible” Miniseries in the face of Obama-Devil Controversy

Producers Defend "The Bible" Miniseries in the face of Obama-Devil Controversy: Utter Nonsense! Obama is a "Fellow Christian" - Tinsel

Interesting that you contrast judeo-christian ideology with devil worship when many people say that the Kabbalah is Luciferian. As for your question, does one worship life or death, we live in the saturn-moon matrix. Death is the beginning again of our true nature and existence.

 

[fncceo]

USMC radio-telegraph operator

Where did you go to Code School? I had a few Marines in my CW class at NTC San Diego in 1977. They had to copy in in pencil and we got to use typewriters.

 

[PoliticalChic]

• "On Thursday, streetwear brand Bstroy showcased its 2020 fashion collection in New York City.
• The menswear line included multiple hoodies emblazoned with logos for schools like Columbine, Sandy Hook, and Marjory Stoneman Douglas— all of which have faced mass shootings.
• The hoodies were also covered in rips that looked like bullet holes."
• People are outraged after a fashion brand made Columbine and Sandy Hook-inspired hoodies with rips that look like bullet holes

Honoring, memorializing death.....


Which side of the political aisle do you suppose is authoring this blasphemy????
Left or Right?



Hint:
FATHER OF PARKLAND SHOOTING VICTIM: ‘GUNS DIDN’T KILL MY DAUGHTER DEMOCRATIC POLICIES DID’

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why is it that the Democrat Party is so welcoming to illegal aliens from Mexico???


Here's one reason.


"Since the pre-Columbian era Mexican culture has maintained a certain reverence towards death,[2] which can be seen in the widespread commemoration of the Day of the Dead.[3] Elements of that celebration include the use of skeletons to remind people of their mortality.[4] The worship of Santa Muerte is condemned by the Catholic Church in Mexico as invalid, but it is increasingly firmly entrenched in Mexican culture.[5][6]

... an estimated 10–20 million followers in Mexico, the United States, and parts of Central America. Santa Muerte has similar male counterparts in the Americas, such as the skeletal folk saints San La Muerte of Paraguay and Rey Pascual of Guatemala.[11]

...Santa Muerte is also seen as a protector of homosexual, bisexual, and transgender communities in Mexico,...

...the Santa Muerte religion is often associated with violence, criminality, and the illegal drug trade.[43] She is a popular deity in prisons, both among inmates and staff, and shrines dedicated to her can be found in many cells.[44][17][45]..."
Santa Muerte - Wikipedia



Couldn't be a better fit than with the party of death......the Democrat Party.

 

[sealybobo]

1.When put in that fashion, it appears a simple question. But when taken to the central nature of said worship, not so simple:

Do you worship God, or do you worship the Devil?

Do you choose the Judeo-Christian doctrines, or the combinations of Devil worship?




What???No one worships, serves, the Devil today? You couldn’t be more wrong.

2. “Satanism and devil worship is alive in America today even if the nation as a whole has become less religious. The notion of deals with the devil are, if anything, more common than they were just a few years ago … and murders in the name of the devil are probably more common than you might think they are. They’re definitely more grisly. Western Civilization has a long history of fearing the devil and sometimes even worshipping him.”
26 Facts About Satanic Murder, Pacts, And Myths You Might Regret Knowing




3.“SATANIC SACRIFICE
Sex-mad devil worshippers murder four people in gruesome ritual after becoming convinced human sacrifice would grant them power over women, cops say

DEVIL worshippers slaughtered four people in bizarre rituals believing the sacrifices would give them the powers to pull women, cops claim.

The victim's body parts, found in a village in north east Brazil, were allegedly used to adorn a 'altar' used during bizarre blood-drinking rituals to summons Satan.” Sex-mad Satanists murder 4 in gruesome ritual ‘to gain power over women’



4. “Most feared gang in America 'sacrifices teenage girl to Satan'
An infamous street gang from Los Angeles is believed to have murdered at least eight people across the US over the last month, including teenage school students some of whom it is claimed were killed as part of satanic rituals.

Members of Mara Salvatrucha, also known as MS-13,…” Devil worshiping gang 'sacrificed a teenage girl to Satan'





“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn’t exist.”

And I can bring the question a lot closer to the beliefs of over 60 million voters….

Producers Defend “The Bible” Miniseries in the face of Obama-Devil Controversy

Producers Defend "The Bible" Miniseries in the face of Obama-Devil Controversy: Utter Nonsense! Obama is a "Fellow Christian" - Tinsel

In the book The Worm at the Core: On the Role of Death in Life, Solomon, along with psychologists Jeff Greenberg and Tom Pyszczynski, illustrate how death anxiety influences people's behavior in ways they would never suspect. The fear of death is so overwhelming, they say, that people go to great lengths to seek security; they embrace belief systems that give them a sense of meaning—religion, values, community.

 

[edward37]

Since Trump became President I'm in favor of the death penalty

 

[PoliticalChic]

1.When put in that fashion, it appears a simple question. But when taken to the central nature of said worship, not so simple:

Do you worship God, or do you worship the Devil?

Do you choose the Judeo-Christian doctrines, or the combinations of Devil worship?




What???No one worships, serves, the Devil today? You couldn’t be more wrong.

2. “Satanism and devil worship is alive in America today even if the nation as a whole has become less religious. The notion of deals with the devil are, if anything, more common than they were just a few years ago … and murders in the name of the devil are probably more common than you might think they are. They’re definitely more grisly. Western Civilization has a long history of fearing the devil and sometimes even worshipping him.”
26 Facts About Satanic Murder, Pacts, And Myths You Might Regret Knowing




3.“SATANIC SACRIFICE
Sex-mad devil worshippers murder four people in gruesome ritual after becoming convinced human sacrifice would grant them power over women, cops say

DEVIL worshippers slaughtered four people in bizarre rituals believing the sacrifices would give them the powers to pull women, cops claim.

The victim's body parts, found in a village in north east Brazil, were allegedly used to adorn a 'altar' used during bizarre blood-drinking rituals to summons Satan.” Sex-mad Satanists murder 4 in gruesome ritual ‘to gain power over women’



4. “Most feared gang in America 'sacrifices teenage girl to Satan'
An infamous street gang from Los Angeles is believed to have murdered at least eight people across the US over the last month, including teenage school students some of whom it is claimed were killed as part of satanic rituals.

Members of Mara Salvatrucha, also known as MS-13,…” Devil worshiping gang 'sacrificed a teenage girl to Satan'





“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn’t exist.”

And I can bring the question a lot closer to the beliefs of over 60 million voters….

Producers Defend “The Bible” Miniseries in the face of Obama-Devil Controversy

Producers Defend "The Bible" Miniseries in the face of Obama-Devil Controversy: Utter Nonsense! Obama is a "Fellow Christian" - Tinsel

In the book The Worm at the Core: On the Role of Death in Life, Solomon, along with psychologists Jeff Greenberg and Tom Pyszczynski, illustrate how death anxiety influences people's behavior in ways they would never suspect. The fear of death is so overwhelming, they say, that people go to great lengths to seek security; they embrace belief systems that give them a sense of meaning—religion, values, community.

I appreciate it when posters are able to quote sources....as you did.....but it doesn't speak to the point of the thread.


This: the Right embraces religion, God, and Life.

The Left.....the opposite.



......let's review.


Death is embraced, favored, championed by

a. those in the examples in the OP, specifically MS13


b. the Muslim President, who had as his 'adviser,' a man who claimed that post-birth abortion....murder of infants....should be legalized


c. in chapter 22 of Genesis we see that God does not allow human sacrifice.....the Devil's advocates do.


d. In the long history of Christian or Jewish martyrdom, there wasn't one person who killed another to be a martyr. You know which 'religion' demands murder.


e. The Left, clearly servants of the dark powers, controls the schools and the media to the extent that they can ridicule and marginalize followers of God.

Their argument is that the existence of God cannot be proven....but neither can the efficacy of communism, yet a front runner of the Democrat Party is a communist.


f. The most common method of advancing evil is by lying, and not only does that 'religion' tell its adherents to lie, but the Democrats, Liberals, socialists, Progresssives do it far more than they tell the truth: "We will take the United States under labels we have made very lovable; we will take it under liberalism, under progressivism, under democracy."


g. Believers worship life, and the future, while the followers of evil claim life is meaningless....'nihilism'....which is why the former have far more children, with their faith in the future.


h. Did I mention how the Left, the worshipers of evil, love death?

Millions have died for communism and Nazism, and millions in the slaughter of the unborn.


i. Consistent with their view of death, Democrat Obamacare rations healthcare, and orders the elderly to accept death.


j. The two great revolutions attest to the distinction. The French abjured religion, the American made it part of their memorializing documents.

The French version resulted in over a half million deaths.

And, of course, the French Revolution was the model for the Russian Revolution, and led to Mao and Pol Pot.


k. Islam is a perfect example of this thesis: "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.”

It's God vs the Devil.

l. Obama's mentor Alinsky, admitted his admiration, love, of the Devil.







I say that the two forces in conflict in the world are one that is in favor of life....and the other in favor of death.



The former is represented, or generated, by God, and the latter, by the Devil.

 

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1.When put in that fashion, it appears a simple question. But when taken to the central nature of said worship, not so simple:

Do you worship God, or do you worship the Devil?

Do you choose the Judeo-Christian doctrines, or the combinations of Devil worship?




What???No one worships, serves, the Devil today? You couldn’t be more wrong.

2. “Satanism and devil worship is alive in America today even if the nation as a whole has become less religious. The notion of deals with the devil are, if anything, more common than they were just a few years ago … and murders in the name of the devil are probably more common than you might think they are. They’re definitely more grisly. Western Civilization has a long history of fearing the devil and sometimes even worshipping him.”
26 Facts About Satanic Murder, Pacts, And Myths You Might Regret Knowing




3.“SATANIC SACRIFICE
Sex-mad devil worshippers murder four people in gruesome ritual after becoming convinced human sacrifice would grant them power over women, cops say

DEVIL worshippers slaughtered four people in bizarre rituals believing the sacrifices would give them the powers to pull women, cops claim.

The victim's body parts, found in a village in north east Brazil, were allegedly used to adorn a 'altar' used during bizarre blood-drinking rituals to summons Satan.” Sex-mad Satanists murder 4 in gruesome ritual ‘to gain power over women’



4. “Most feared gang in America 'sacrifices teenage girl to Satan'
An infamous street gang from Los Angeles is believed to have murdered at least eight people across the US over the last month, including teenage school students some of whom it is claimed were killed as part of satanic rituals.

Members of Mara Salvatrucha, also known as MS-13,…” Devil worshiping gang 'sacrificed a teenage girl to Satan'





“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn’t exist.”

And I can bring the question a lot closer to the beliefs of over 60 million voters….

Producers Defend “The Bible” Miniseries in the face of Obama-Devil Controversy

Producers Defend "The Bible" Miniseries in the face of Obama-Devil Controversy: Utter Nonsense! Obama is a "Fellow Christian" - Tinsel

In the book The Worm at the Core: On the Role of Death in Life, Solomon, along with psychologists Jeff Greenberg and Tom Pyszczynski, illustrate how death anxiety influences people's behavior in ways they would never suspect. The fear of death is so overwhelming, they say, that people go to great lengths to seek security; they embrace belief systems that give them a sense of meaning—religion, values, community.

I appreciate it when posters are able to quote sources....as you did.....but it doesn't speak to the point of the thread.


This: the Right embraces religion, God, and Life.

The Left.....the opposite.



......let's review.


Death is embraced, favored, championed by

a. those in the examples in the OP, specifically MS13


b. the Muslim President, who had as his 'adviser,' a man who claimed that post-birth abortion....murder of infants....should be legalized


c. in chapter 22 of Genesis we see that God does not allow human sacrifice.....the Devil's advocates do.


d. In the long history of Christian or Jewish martyrdom, there wasn't one person who killed another to be a martyr. You know which 'religion' demands murder.


e. The Left, clearly servants of the dark powers, controls the schools and the media to the extent that they can ridicule and marginalize followers of God.

Their argument is that the existence of God cannot be proven....but neither can the efficacy of communism, yet a front runner of the Democrat Party is a communist.


f. The most common method of advancing evil is by lying, and not only does that 'religion' tell its adherents to lie, but the Democrats, Liberals, socialists, Progresssives do it far more than they tell the truth: "We will take the United States under labels we have made very lovable; we will take it under liberalism, under progressivism, under democracy."


g. Believers worship life, and the future, while the followers of evil claim life is meaningless....'nihilism'....which is why the former have far more children, with their faith in the future.


h. Did I mention how the Left, the worshipers of evil, love death?

Millions have died for communism and Nazism, and millions in the slaughter of the unborn.


i. Consistent with their view of death, Democrat Obamacare rations healthcare, and orders the elderly to accept death.


j. The two great revolutions attest to the distinction. The French abjured religion, the American made it part of their memorializing documents.

The French version resulted in over a half million deaths.

And, of course, the French Revolution was the model for the Russian Revolution, and led to Mao and Pol Pot.


k. Islam is a perfect example of this thesis: "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.”

It's God vs the Devil.

l. Obama's mentor Alinsky, admitted his admiration, love, of the Devil.







I say that the two forces in conflict in the world are one that is in favor of life....and the other in favor of death.



The former is represented, or generated, by God, and the latter, by the Devil.

I don't embrace religion or god because I think those two things are made up. Fake, phony, a lie.

Look at Islam. That's not real.

And Jews don't believe Jesus was the son of god. Interesting that they were the ones who supposedly witnessed the miracles but they remain Jews who don't believe the stories in the book your religion made up.

And look at Mormons. Your retarded cousins. Why would we embrace this stupidity?

I love life. Living life. I don't care about the goop inside an egg and I don't care about a seed in a womb. But I do care about living people. And not just rich Americans. I care about people in other countries and I care about poor Americans. Your side cares more about $.