Doctors are coming out in droves saying hydroxychloroquine works

[progressive hunter]

It didn't but we have the disease under control. If people were healthier we would have COVID under control too. We are too fat.

BTW, I don't believe any numbers coming out today. all bullshit. nothing of value or logic. if masks worked then the masks failed if the count went up. there isn't any other way to look at it. the compliance is by 90% of people. fk, the stay at home participation was worse. But yet, the numbers are rising with masks. How can that even be logically? start naming places people frequent where there have been reported outbreaks. none. zip, and the governors are still talking about stricter restrictions. fk them and their administrations. Fake numbers all of them. I say prove it. BTW, if masks work why is it my glasses fog up when I wear one? why do they stick a nine inch swab into one's head rather than a swab from the mouth? anyone else curious? just asking.

Masks are just there for optics. Disease is real. I had it.

If I were fat and or had diabetes, I'd be dead.

God I wish people would just stop pretending they know what they’re talking about.

So now you don't believe me? Excellent. I had firsthand experience. You're discussing theory.

What’s your experience that says masks are just for optics?

Go ahead.

My doctor. Unless you have surgical masks...they are just for show.

Sounds like he may not have been basing that statement on best evidence.

For example:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

We can play link games all day.

Except my link shows that it works in practice. Links don’t work if you don’t read them.

you mean like the link I gave you from Dr Risch proving you wrong on all accounts of the topic at hand???

he has you and me on ignore. we beat his fugley ass. therefore, he didn't read your article, nor will he respond.

he responded a few comments ago, so he doesnt have me on ignore,,at least 20 minutes ago,,,

I don’t have you on ignore, I just don’t have much to say to you.

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

The proof is in the well controlled clinical trials that demonstrated no effect, not cherry picked observational trials.

what was cherry picked???

and those observations were hundreds if not thousands of cases being treated successfully,,,

thats called field trials and was the way things happened for thousands of yrs in medicine,,,

Cherry picking positive studies which have some questionable characteristics and are out of line with the best available data.

prove it,,,

and what was cherry picked???
its an overall observation not cherry picked,, in some cases there was 100% success,,,

Did he mention any of the negative trials in the article?

you tell me,,,

as I said it was an overall observation,,,

he's trying to tell you how to post.

he can try,,,

 

[colfax_m]

It didn't but we have the disease under control. If people were healthier we would have COVID under control too. We are too fat.

BTW, I don't believe any numbers coming out today. all bullshit. nothing of value or logic. if masks worked then the masks failed if the count went up. there isn't any other way to look at it. the compliance is by 90% of people. fk, the stay at home participation was worse. But yet, the numbers are rising with masks. How can that even be logically? start naming places people frequent where there have been reported outbreaks. none. zip, and the governors are still talking about stricter restrictions. fk them and their administrations. Fake numbers all of them. I say prove it. BTW, if masks work why is it my glasses fog up when I wear one? why do they stick a nine inch swab into one's head rather than a swab from the mouth? anyone else curious? just asking.

Masks are just there for optics. Disease is real. I had it.

If I were fat and or had diabetes, I'd be dead.

God I wish people would just stop pretending they know what they’re talking about.

So now you don't believe me? Excellent. I had firsthand experience. You're discussing theory.

What’s your experience that says masks are just for optics?

Go ahead.

My doctor. Unless you have surgical masks...they are just for show.

Sounds like he may not have been basing that statement on best evidence.

For example:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

We can play link games all day.

Except my link shows that it works in practice. Links don’t work if you don’t read them.

you mean like the link I gave you from Dr Risch proving you wrong on all accounts of the topic at hand???

he has you and me on ignore. we beat his fugley ass. therefore, he didn't read your article, nor will he respond.

he responded a few comments ago, so he doesnt have me on ignore,,at least 20 minutes ago,,,

I don’t have you on ignore, I just don’t have much to say to you.

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

The proof is in the well controlled clinical trials that demonstrated no effect, not cherry picked observational trials.

what was cherry picked???

and those observations were hundreds if not thousands of cases being treated successfully,,,

thats called field trials and was the way things happened for thousands of yrs in medicine,,,

Cherry picking positive studies which have some questionable characteristics and are out of line with the best available data.

prove it,,,

and what was cherry picked???
its an overall observation not cherry picked,, in some cases there was 100% success,,,

Did he mention any of the negative trials in the article?

you tell me,,,

as I said it was an overall observation,,,

You didn’t read the article, did you.

 

[colfax_m]

It didn't but we have the disease under control. If people were healthier we would have COVID under control too. We are too fat.

BTW, I don't believe any numbers coming out today. all bullshit. nothing of value or logic. if masks worked then the masks failed if the count went up. there isn't any other way to look at it. the compliance is by 90% of people. fk, the stay at home participation was worse. But yet, the numbers are rising with masks. How can that even be logically? start naming places people frequent where there have been reported outbreaks. none. zip, and the governors are still talking about stricter restrictions. fk them and their administrations. Fake numbers all of them. I say prove it. BTW, if masks work why is it my glasses fog up when I wear one? why do they stick a nine inch swab into one's head rather than a swab from the mouth? anyone else curious? just asking.

Masks are just there for optics. Disease is real. I had it.

If I were fat and or had diabetes, I'd be dead.

God I wish people would just stop pretending they know what they’re talking about.

So now you don't believe me? Excellent. I had firsthand experience. You're discussing theory.

What’s your experience that says masks are just for optics?

Go ahead.

My doctor. Unless you have surgical masks...they are just for show.

Sounds like he may not have been basing that statement on best evidence.

For example:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

We can play link games all day.

Except my link shows that it works in practice. Links don’t work if you don’t read them.

you mean like the link I gave you from Dr Risch proving you wrong on all accounts of the topic at hand???

he has you and me on ignore. we beat his fugley ass. therefore, he didn't read your article, nor will he respond.

he responded a few comments ago, so he doesnt have me on ignore,,at least 20 minutes ago,,,

I don’t have you on ignore, I just don’t have much to say to you.

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

The proof is in the well controlled clinical trials that demonstrated no effect, not cherry picked observational trials.

what was cherry picked???

and those observations were hundreds if not thousands of cases being treated successfully,,,

thats called field trials and was the way things happened for thousands of yrs in medicine,,,

Cherry picking positive studies which have some questionable characteristics and are out of line with the best available data.

prove it,,,

and what was cherry picked???
its an overall observation not cherry picked,, in some cases there was 100% success,,,

Did he mention any of the negative trials in the article?

you tell me,,,

as I said it was an overall observation,,,

he's trying to tell you how to post.

Y’all need to stop posting links that you don’t read. That’s all.

 

[progressive hunter]

It didn't but we have the disease under control. If people were healthier we would have COVID under control too. We are too fat.

BTW, I don't believe any numbers coming out today. all bullshit. nothing of value or logic. if masks worked then the masks failed if the count went up. there isn't any other way to look at it. the compliance is by 90% of people. fk, the stay at home participation was worse. But yet, the numbers are rising with masks. How can that even be logically? start naming places people frequent where there have been reported outbreaks. none. zip, and the governors are still talking about stricter restrictions. fk them and their administrations. Fake numbers all of them. I say prove it. BTW, if masks work why is it my glasses fog up when I wear one? why do they stick a nine inch swab into one's head rather than a swab from the mouth? anyone else curious? just asking.

Masks are just there for optics. Disease is real. I had it.

If I were fat and or had diabetes, I'd be dead.

God I wish people would just stop pretending they know what they’re talking about.

So now you don't believe me? Excellent. I had firsthand experience. You're discussing theory.

What’s your experience that says masks are just for optics?

Go ahead.

My doctor. Unless you have surgical masks...they are just for show.

Sounds like he may not have been basing that statement on best evidence.

For example:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

We can play link games all day.

Except my link shows that it works in practice. Links don’t work if you don’t read them.

you mean like the link I gave you from Dr Risch proving you wrong on all accounts of the topic at hand???

he has you and me on ignore. we beat his fugley ass. therefore, he didn't read your article, nor will he respond.

he responded a few comments ago, so he doesnt have me on ignore,,at least 20 minutes ago,,,

I don’t have you on ignore, I just don’t have much to say to you.

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

The proof is in the well controlled clinical trials that demonstrated no effect, not cherry picked observational trials.

what was cherry picked???

and those observations were hundreds if not thousands of cases being treated successfully,,,

thats called field trials and was the way things happened for thousands of yrs in medicine,,,

Cherry picking positive studies which have some questionable characteristics and are out of line with the best available data.

prove it,,,

and what was cherry picked???
its an overall observation not cherry picked,, in some cases there was 100% success,,,

Did he mention any of the negative trials in the article?

you tell me,,,

as I said it was an overall observation,,,

You didn’t read the article, did you.

it isnt about me,,so stop deflecting,,,

 

[colfax_m]

It didn't but we have the disease under control. If people were healthier we would have COVID under control too. We are too fat.

BTW, I don't believe any numbers coming out today. all bullshit. nothing of value or logic. if masks worked then the masks failed if the count went up. there isn't any other way to look at it. the compliance is by 90% of people. fk, the stay at home participation was worse. But yet, the numbers are rising with masks. How can that even be logically? start naming places people frequent where there have been reported outbreaks. none. zip, and the governors are still talking about stricter restrictions. fk them and their administrations. Fake numbers all of them. I say prove it. BTW, if masks work why is it my glasses fog up when I wear one? why do they stick a nine inch swab into one's head rather than a swab from the mouth? anyone else curious? just asking.

Masks are just there for optics. Disease is real. I had it.

If I were fat and or had diabetes, I'd be dead.

God I wish people would just stop pretending they know what they’re talking about.

So now you don't believe me? Excellent. I had firsthand experience. You're discussing theory.

What’s your experience that says masks are just for optics?

Go ahead.

My doctor. Unless you have surgical masks...they are just for show.

Sounds like he may not have been basing that statement on best evidence.

For example:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

We can play link games all day.

Except my link shows that it works in practice. Links don’t work if you don’t read them.

you mean like the link I gave you from Dr Risch proving you wrong on all accounts of the topic at hand???

he has you and me on ignore. we beat his fugley ass. therefore, he didn't read your article, nor will he respond.

he responded a few comments ago, so he doesnt have me on ignore,,at least 20 minutes ago,,,

I don’t have you on ignore, I just don’t have much to say to you.

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

The proof is in the well controlled clinical trials that demonstrated no effect, not cherry picked observational trials.

what was cherry picked???

and those observations were hundreds if not thousands of cases being treated successfully,,,

thats called field trials and was the way things happened for thousands of yrs in medicine,,,

Cherry picking positive studies which have some questionable characteristics and are out of line with the best available data.

prove it,,,

and what was cherry picked???
its an overall observation not cherry picked,, in some cases there was 100% success,,,

Did he mention any of the negative trials in the article?

you tell me,,,

as I said it was an overall observation,,,

You didn’t read the article, did you.

it isnt about me,,so stop deflecting,,,

Why do you want me to comment on an article you didn’t even bother to read?

 

[Baron]

Trump motivated by army of doctors, triggers Left with tweet binge on hydroxychloroquine evidence

Leftists got triggered after Trump retweeted the White Coat Summit, where an army of coronavirus experts declared that hydroxychloroquine works.

www.bizpacreview.com

View attachment 368204
Democrats get
Triggered

Everyone knew that the opposition to Hydroxychloroquine was motivated by Hatred of Trump and had nothing to do with science. Although the Fact that no one was going to make money from selling a cheap pill didn't help either.

Tremendous World Leaders like the Salvadorian President Bukele agreed with Trump.

Not by Hatred of Trump, sooner a fervent desire to exterminate humanity by Gate's killer 'vaccine'.
Therefore nothing another is welcome.

 

[progressive hunter]

It didn't but we have the disease under control. If people were healthier we would have COVID under control too. We are too fat.

BTW, I don't believe any numbers coming out today. all bullshit. nothing of value or logic. if masks worked then the masks failed if the count went up. there isn't any other way to look at it. the compliance is by 90% of people. fk, the stay at home participation was worse. But yet, the numbers are rising with masks. How can that even be logically? start naming places people frequent where there have been reported outbreaks. none. zip, and the governors are still talking about stricter restrictions. fk them and their administrations. Fake numbers all of them. I say prove it. BTW, if masks work why is it my glasses fog up when I wear one? why do they stick a nine inch swab into one's head rather than a swab from the mouth? anyone else curious? just asking.

Masks are just there for optics. Disease is real. I had it.

If I were fat and or had diabetes, I'd be dead.

God I wish people would just stop pretending they know what they’re talking about.

So now you don't believe me? Excellent. I had firsthand experience. You're discussing theory.

What’s your experience that says masks are just for optics?

Go ahead.

My doctor. Unless you have surgical masks...they are just for show.

Sounds like he may not have been basing that statement on best evidence.

For example:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

We can play link games all day.

Except my link shows that it works in practice. Links don’t work if you don’t read them.

you mean like the link I gave you from Dr Risch proving you wrong on all accounts of the topic at hand???

he has you and me on ignore. we beat his fugley ass. therefore, he didn't read your article, nor will he respond.

he responded a few comments ago, so he doesnt have me on ignore,,at least 20 minutes ago,,,

I don’t have you on ignore, I just don’t have much to say to you.

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

The proof is in the well controlled clinical trials that demonstrated no effect, not cherry picked observational trials.

what was cherry picked???

and those observations were hundreds if not thousands of cases being treated successfully,,,

thats called field trials and was the way things happened for thousands of yrs in medicine,,,

Cherry picking positive studies which have some questionable characteristics and are out of line with the best available data.

prove it,,,

and what was cherry picked???
its an overall observation not cherry picked,, in some cases there was 100% success,,,

Did he mention any of the negative trials in the article?

you tell me,,,

as I said it was an overall observation,,,

You didn’t read the article, did you.

it isnt about me,,so stop deflecting,,,

Why do you want me to comment on an article you didn’t even bother to read?

when did I say I didnt read it???

I wanted your comment because of all the lies you were telling about the doctors in the OP because it proved you wrong and a liar,,,

 

[colfax_m]

It didn't but we have the disease under control. If people were healthier we would have COVID under control too. We are too fat.

BTW, I don't believe any numbers coming out today. all bullshit. nothing of value or logic. if masks worked then the masks failed if the count went up. there isn't any other way to look at it. the compliance is by 90% of people. fk, the stay at home participation was worse. But yet, the numbers are rising with masks. How can that even be logically? start naming places people frequent where there have been reported outbreaks. none. zip, and the governors are still talking about stricter restrictions. fk them and their administrations. Fake numbers all of them. I say prove it. BTW, if masks work why is it my glasses fog up when I wear one? why do they stick a nine inch swab into one's head rather than a swab from the mouth? anyone else curious? just asking.

Masks are just there for optics. Disease is real. I had it.

If I were fat and or had diabetes, I'd be dead.

God I wish people would just stop pretending they know what they’re talking about.

So now you don't believe me? Excellent. I had firsthand experience. You're discussing theory.

What’s your experience that says masks are just for optics?

Go ahead.

My doctor. Unless you have surgical masks...they are just for show.

Sounds like he may not have been basing that statement on best evidence.

For example:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

We can play link games all day.

Except my link shows that it works in practice. Links don’t work if you don’t read them.

you mean like the link I gave you from Dr Risch proving you wrong on all accounts of the topic at hand???

he has you and me on ignore. we beat his fugley ass. therefore, he didn't read your article, nor will he respond.

he responded a few comments ago, so he doesnt have me on ignore,,at least 20 minutes ago,,,

I don’t have you on ignore, I just don’t have much to say to you.

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

The proof is in the well controlled clinical trials that demonstrated no effect, not cherry picked observational trials.

what was cherry picked???

and those observations were hundreds if not thousands of cases being treated successfully,,,

thats called field trials and was the way things happened for thousands of yrs in medicine,,,

Cherry picking positive studies which have some questionable characteristics and are out of line with the best available data.

prove it,,,

and what was cherry picked???
its an overall observation not cherry picked,, in some cases there was 100% success,,,

Did he mention any of the negative trials in the article?

you tell me,,,

as I said it was an overall observation,,,

You didn’t read the article, did you.

it isnt about me,,so stop deflecting,,,

Why do you want me to comment on an article you didn’t even bother to read?

when did I say I didnt read it???

I wanted your comment because of all the lies you were telling about the doctors in the OP because it proved you wrong and a liar,,,

What lies? That lady Stella Immanuel is a little crazy.

It sure looks like you didn’t read the article because you don’t seem to have any knowledge of the information in it.

 

[progressive hunter]

It didn't but we have the disease under control. If people were healthier we would have COVID under control too. We are too fat.

BTW, I don't believe any numbers coming out today. all bullshit. nothing of value or logic. if masks worked then the masks failed if the count went up. there isn't any other way to look at it. the compliance is by 90% of people. fk, the stay at home participation was worse. But yet, the numbers are rising with masks. How can that even be logically? start naming places people frequent where there have been reported outbreaks. none. zip, and the governors are still talking about stricter restrictions. fk them and their administrations. Fake numbers all of them. I say prove it. BTW, if masks work why is it my glasses fog up when I wear one? why do they stick a nine inch swab into one's head rather than a swab from the mouth? anyone else curious? just asking.

Masks are just there for optics. Disease is real. I had it.

If I were fat and or had diabetes, I'd be dead.

God I wish people would just stop pretending they know what they’re talking about.

So now you don't believe me? Excellent. I had firsthand experience. You're discussing theory.

What’s your experience that says masks are just for optics?

Go ahead.

My doctor. Unless you have surgical masks...they are just for show.

Sounds like he may not have been basing that statement on best evidence.

For example:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

We can play link games all day.

Except my link shows that it works in practice. Links don’t work if you don’t read them.

you mean like the link I gave you from Dr Risch proving you wrong on all accounts of the topic at hand???

he has you and me on ignore. we beat his fugley ass. therefore, he didn't read your article, nor will he respond.

he responded a few comments ago, so he doesnt have me on ignore,,at least 20 minutes ago,,,

I don’t have you on ignore, I just don’t have much to say to you.

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

The proof is in the well controlled clinical trials that demonstrated no effect, not cherry picked observational trials.

what was cherry picked???

and those observations were hundreds if not thousands of cases being treated successfully,,,

thats called field trials and was the way things happened for thousands of yrs in medicine,,,

Cherry picking positive studies which have some questionable characteristics and are out of line with the best available data.

prove it,,,

and what was cherry picked???
its an overall observation not cherry picked,, in some cases there was 100% success,,,

Did he mention any of the negative trials in the article?

you tell me,,,

as I said it was an overall observation,,,

You didn’t read the article, did you.

it isnt about me,,so stop deflecting,,,

Why do you want me to comment on an article you didn’t even bother to read?

when did I say I didnt read it???

I wanted your comment because of all the lies you were telling about the doctors in the OP because it proved you wrong and a liar,,,

What lies? That lady Stella Immanuel is a little crazy.

It sure looks like you didn’t read the article because you don’t seem to have any knowledge of the information in it.

why are you singling her out and ignoring the rest of them including Dr risch???

youre doing that because it proves you wrong and a liar,,,

 

[Faun]

Th

Not sure what they are giving now, but that was part of the standard cocktail our local hospital was using to treat patients during the first months.

I haven’t seen it used in months. We’ve moved on to things with far better data.

You saw it used firsthand?

In the early days, but I can’t remember the last time I saw it used.

Did it work?

Hard to know.

Therein lies the problem.

Exactly. It requires rigorous analysis.

My thought is if there are no to minimal side effects then take it. But I am not a doctor. I have had COVID. Didn't need drugs to get rid of it.

The real issue is that our country is fat and unhealthy and neither party is discussing it. Fattest country in the world. It is a shame. And what do we do? We close all the gyms but leave liquor stores open and now deliver food in multiple ways. So we get fatter and more unhealthy, which is what virus prey on.

Pretty stupid.

The reason the USA is fat and unhealthy is that people don't have cheap access to health care for all. Access to emergency rooms or free clinics is not the same thing as having a good GP, and a team of specialists, as needed who track your health, your care, and to get on your ass to make heathier choices.

thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard,,,

The unhealthiest people are the impoverished who have the least access. There’s a serious correlation between unhealthy activity and lack of medical access.

Bullshit. Young black kids are the best athletes. Many if not most come from poor areas. You can eat healthy and cheaply. Beans are cheap for instance and very healthy. Lettuce and other vegetables are fairly cheap. I don't buy this because the wealthy and middle class are also fat.

That’s your evidence? Young black athletes? You’re not being logical here.

You really aren’t thinking about populations, but picking out subsets to justify your perspective.

If all the poor are kidnapped by aliens we would still be fat. How is that?

And yet society would be healthier as a whole.

I do not believe that and neither do you.

The data shows it and so does my personal experience.

LIAR!!!

Don’t be a snowflake.

I can say the same for you.

Azog: We as a country are fat.

colfax: We would be less fat if we didn't have poor people

Azog: And? We would still be way too fat.

colfax: You're ignoring my data.

Illogical.

I see. Your problem is you’re not really following the conversation.

For one, you’ve submitted obesity as the only marker of health. That’s not logical. Two, you seem incredulous by saying that poor people are less healthy. Your basis for this is not data but the fact that some people grew up poor play in the NBA and some rich people are fat. That’s not logical.

Never said "ONLY" but it is one of the "PRIMARY" ones as it leads to diabetes. And we all agree that diabetes severely impacts the immune system.

Not some. MOST are fat...regardless of economic standing.

From 1999–2000 through 2017–2018, the prevalence of obesity increased from 30.5% to 42.4%, and the prevalence of severe obesity increased from 4.7% to 9.2%. ---- You're saying we have more people now than 20 years ago? If so, give me that data.

Obesity-related conditions include heart disease, stroke, type 2 diabetes and certain types of cancer that are some of the leading causes of preventable, premature death

You never said it was only, however while I was speaking about overall health, you responded with statements of obesity, so that was the effect of your own statements.

Second, obesity is not the only factor, there’s lots of others including genetics and diet. Third, treatment of diabetes has tremendous effects in the other outcomes of diabetes and guess what that requires? Medical care that costs money.

So at the end of the day, nothing you’ve said contradicts the data that socioeconomic status is highly correlated with health

You didn't answer my question. Rude. So I'll ask again.

From 1999–2000 through 2017–2018, the prevalence of obesity increased from 30.5% to 42.4%, and the prevalence of severe obesity increased from 4.7% to 9.2%. ---- You're saying we have more poor people now than 20 years ago? If so, give me that data.

To the bolded section, I never said anything of the sort.

Could you please try to follow a conversation?

So you admit that we are fat. While poorer people are fatter it doesn't mean we have an issue for ALL Americans. And we are getting fatter. This is why the virus is killing more here. Are you fat? Honest question

This is so reductionist, it’s going to the point of near uselessness.

Of course a lot of people here are obese. interestingly enough, there’s no major difference in socioeconomic status and obesity among men, but there is some for women.

Products - Data Briefs - Number 50 - December 2010

Obesity and Socioeconomic Status in Adults: United States, 2005–2008

www.cdc.gov

Yes, the country is getting more obese. Yes, we’d be better off without so much obesity.

What’s your point?

My point is that this is the REAL issue of why COVID-19 is so deadly. And neither party is talking about it. Because neither party cares. You also don't care. I am glad I won this debate. Carry on.

People have been talking about obesity for decades.

You won a debate no one was having.

Name the last time either Trump, Clinton or Biden talked about it....I'll patiently wait. Thanks.

Why would Impeached Trump talk about obesity when he himself is obese? Seems he'd rather avoid discussing it.

Because it is a critical issue killing our country.

Then shouldn't Impeached Trump lead by example and shed some pounds?

 

[Faun]

Trump motivated by army of doctors, triggers Left with tweet binge on hydroxychloroquine evidence

Leftists got triggered after Trump retweeted the White Coat Summit, where an army of coronavirus experts declared that hydroxychloroquine works.

www.bizpacreview.com

View attachment 368204
Democrats get
Triggered

LOL

Yeah, you go with that nutcase...

Trump’s New COVID Doctor Says Sex With Demons Makes You Sick

The president is pushing the coronavirus theories of a Houston doctor who also says sexual visitations by demons and alien DNA are at the root of Americans’ common health concerns.

www.thedailybeast.com

I'll go with an informed doctor...

Fauci on ‘Good Morning America’ responds to Trump tweetstorm: ‘I have not been misleading the American public’

"I have not been misleading the American public under any circumstances," the nation's leading expert of infectious diseases said Tuesday.

www.cleveland.com

Fauci has been wrong on everything about this virus. No wonder you prove yourself a dumbass everyday.

LOL

Slobbers a trumptard.

Oh? What was he wrong about?

Everything he started with the mask.

LOL

What about masks? Haven't you heard? Even Impeched Trmp flip-flopped on masks.

SO HAS FAUCI,,,

View attachment 368297

That was early on before the pandemic was spreading here like it is. Since then, he's been on board with masks. Whereas Impeached Trump held a rally about a month ago where he not only refused to wear a mask, he encouraged attendees to not wear one either. And that was when he thought a million tickets were distributed to his event. And not surprisingly, about two weeks before a COVID outbreak in Tulsa.

View attachment 368319

So? He had just tested negative.

so if you test negative you dont have to obey the rules???

Putz, the purpose of wearing a mask is to prevent spreading it. If he's negative, he's not spreading it, mask or no mask. Despite that, he still wore one for most of the game, pulling it down on occasion, mostly to drink water.

so I dont have to wear a mask in public,,,got it,,,

And yet, he's still wearing a mask ... though he can't drink through it.

 

[Faun]

It didn't but we have the disease under control. If people were healthier we would have COVID under control too. We are too fat.

BTW, I don't believe any numbers coming out today. all bullshit. nothing of value or logic. if masks worked then the masks failed if the count went up. there isn't any other way to look at it. the compliance is by 90% of people. fk, the stay at home participation was worse. But yet, the numbers are rising with masks. How can that even be logically? start naming places people frequent where there have been reported outbreaks. none. zip, and the governors are still talking about stricter restrictions. fk them and their administrations. Fake numbers all of them. I say prove it. BTW, if masks work why is it my glasses fog up when I wear one? why do they stick a nine inch swab into one's head rather than a swab from the mouth? anyone else curious? just asking.

Masks are just there for optics. Disease is real. I had it.

If I were fat and or had diabetes, I'd be dead.

God I wish people would just stop pretending they know what they’re talking about.

So now you don't believe me? Excellent. I had firsthand experience. You're discussing theory.

What’s your experience that says masks are just for optics?

Go ahead.

My doctor. Unless you have surgical masks...they are just for show.

Sounds like he may not have been basing that statement on best evidence.

For example:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

We can play link games all day.

Except my link shows that it works in practice. Links don’t work if you don’t read them.

you mean like the link I gave you from Dr Risch proving you wrong on all accounts of the topic at hand???

he has you and me on ignore. we beat his fugley ass. therefore, he didn't read your article, nor will he respond.

he responded a few comments ago, so he doesnt have me on ignore,,at least 20 minutes ago,,,

I don’t have you on ignore, I just don’t have much to say to you.

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

The proof is in the well controlled clinical trials that demonstrated no effect, not cherry picked observational trials.

what was cherry picked???

and those observations were hundreds if not thousands of cases being treated successfully,,,

thats called field trials and was the way things happened for thousands of yrs in medicine,,,

Cherry picking positive studies which have some questionable characteristics and are out of line with the best available data.

prove it,,,

and what was cherry picked???
its an overall observation not cherry picked,, in some cases there was 100% success,,,

Did he mention any of the negative trials in the article?

you tell me,,,

as I said it was an overall observation,,,

You didn’t read the article, did you.

He never does.

 

[munkle]

BIG LEAGUE WELLNESS
Medical Journal Suggests Loss of Employment for Any Person Who Refuses to Take COVID-19 Vaccine


An article in the New England Journal of Medicine has suggested that “substantive penalties” be used to enforce compliance in taking the upcoming COVID-19 vaccine, including loss of employment.

The journal published an article on June 26 titled, “Ensuring Uptake of Vaccines against SARS-CoV-2.” They suggested that the suspension of employment would be a less coercive manner of enforcing vaccine compliance than fines or other criminal penalties.

The report states that “state mandates should not be structured as compulsory vaccination (absolute requirements); instead, noncompliance should incur a penalty.”

Latest: ANTIFA Throws What Appears to be a BOMB At the Hatfield Federal Courthouse

“Nevertheless, because of the infectiousness and dangerousness of the virus, relatively substantive penalties could be justified, including employment suspension or stay-at-home orders for persons in designated high-priority groups who refuse vaccination. Neither fines nor criminal penalties should be used, however; fines disadvantage the poor, and criminal penalties invite legal challenges on procedural due-process grounds. Both are bad public health policy for a Covid-19 vaccine because they may stoke distrust without improving uptake,” the report continues.

The authors of the report are particularly perturbed that fewer than half of Americans plan to get the COVID-19 inoculation when it is available. They are focused on public policy proposal that would coerce more Americans into getting stuck with the shot.

Medical Journal Suggests Loss of Employment for Any Person Who Refuses to Take COVID-19 Vaccine - Big League Politics

The Orwellian nightmare is really starting to take shape due to the pandemic.

bigleaguepolitics.com

What country do we live in again?

Soooo, 99.99% of the people all take the vaccine protecting them, but the 0.01% who don't take it are still such a threat to society they should be stamped out like a bug?

Gee, you've just made my mind up for me: anything the system wants me to do THAT BADLY they are willing to murder me over if I don't comply, I HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO RESIST DOING WITH EVERY LAST FIBER OF MY BEING!

It didn't but we have the disease under control. If people were healthier we would have COVID under control too. We are too fat.

BTW, I don't believe any numbers coming out today. all bullshit. nothing of value or logic. if masks worked then the masks failed if the count went up. there isn't any other way to look at it. the compliance is by 90% of people. fk, the stay at home participation was worse. But yet, the numbers are rising with masks. How can that even be logically? start naming places people frequent where there have been reported outbreaks. none. zip, and the governors are still talking about stricter restrictions. fk them and their administrations. Fake numbers all of them. I say prove it. BTW, if masks work why is it my glasses fog up when I wear one? why do they stick a nine inch swab into one's head rather than a swab from the mouth? anyone else curious? just asking.

Masks are just there for optics. Disease is real. I had it.

If I were fat and or had diabetes, I'd be dead.

God I wish people would just stop pretending they know what they’re talking about.

So now you don't believe me? Excellent. I had firsthand experience. You're discussing theory.

What’s your experience that says masks are just for optics?

Go ahead.

My doctor. Unless you have surgical masks...they are just for show.

Sounds like he may not have been basing that statement on best evidence.

For example:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

We can play link games all day.

Except my link shows that it works in practice. Links don’t work if you don’t read them.

you mean like the link I gave you from Dr Risch proving you wrong on all accounts of the topic at hand???

he has you and me on ignore. we beat his fugley ass. therefore, he didn't read your article, nor will he respond.

he responded a few comments ago, so he doesnt have me on ignore,,at least 20 minutes ago,,,

I don’t have you on ignore, I just don’t have much to say to you.

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

The proof is in the well controlled clinical trials that demonstrated no effect, not cherry picked observational trials.

what was cherry picked???

and those observations were hundreds if not thousands of cases being treated successfully,,,

thats called field trials and was the way things happened for thousands of yrs in medicine,,,

Cherry picking positive studies which have some questionable characteristics and are out of line with the best available data.

prove it,,,

and what was cherry picked???
its an overall observation not cherry picked,, in some cases there was 100% success,,,

Did he mention any of the negative trials in the article?

you tell me,,,

as I said it was an overall observation,,,

You didn’t read the article, did you.

it isnt about me,,so stop deflecting,,,

Why do you want me to comment on an article you didn’t even bother to read?

when did I say I didnt read it???

I wanted your comment because of all the lies you were telling about the doctors in the OP because it proved you wrong and a liar,,,

What lies? That lady Stella Immanuel is a little crazy.

It sure looks like you didn’t read the article because you don’t seem to have any knowledge of the information in it.

why are you singling her out and ignoring the rest of them including Dr risch???

youre doing that because it proves you wrong and a liar,,,

I don't care if she does voodoo dances in her spare time and is a Jehovah's witness, if she cures her patients. Like I said:

"July 25, 2020: 62 studies confirm the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine. Deafening silence of the Mainstream Medias, unacceptable mediation lockdown"

HCQ for COVID-19: real-time analysis of all 267 studies

HCQ for COVID-19: real-time analysis of all 267 studies

c19study.com

/end thread

 

[colfax_m]

It didn't but we have the disease under control. If people were healthier we would have COVID under control too. We are too fat.

BTW, I don't believe any numbers coming out today. all bullshit. nothing of value or logic. if masks worked then the masks failed if the count went up. there isn't any other way to look at it. the compliance is by 90% of people. fk, the stay at home participation was worse. But yet, the numbers are rising with masks. How can that even be logically? start naming places people frequent where there have been reported outbreaks. none. zip, and the governors are still talking about stricter restrictions. fk them and their administrations. Fake numbers all of them. I say prove it. BTW, if masks work why is it my glasses fog up when I wear one? why do they stick a nine inch swab into one's head rather than a swab from the mouth? anyone else curious? just asking.

Masks are just there for optics. Disease is real. I had it.

If I were fat and or had diabetes, I'd be dead.

God I wish people would just stop pretending they know what they’re talking about.

So now you don't believe me? Excellent. I had firsthand experience. You're discussing theory.

What’s your experience that says masks are just for optics?

Go ahead.

My doctor. Unless you have surgical masks...they are just for show.

Sounds like he may not have been basing that statement on best evidence.

For example:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

We can play link games all day.

Except my link shows that it works in practice. Links don’t work if you don’t read them.

you mean like the link I gave you from Dr Risch proving you wrong on all accounts of the topic at hand???

he has you and me on ignore. we beat his fugley ass. therefore, he didn't read your article, nor will he respond.

he responded a few comments ago, so he doesnt have me on ignore,,at least 20 minutes ago,,,

I don’t have you on ignore, I just don’t have much to say to you.

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

The proof is in the well controlled clinical trials that demonstrated no effect, not cherry picked observational trials.

what was cherry picked???

and those observations were hundreds if not thousands of cases being treated successfully,,,

thats called field trials and was the way things happened for thousands of yrs in medicine,,,

Cherry picking positive studies which have some questionable characteristics and are out of line with the best available data.

prove it,,,

and what was cherry picked???
its an overall observation not cherry picked,, in some cases there was 100% success,,,

Did he mention any of the negative trials in the article?

you tell me,,,

as I said it was an overall observation,,,

You didn’t read the article, did you.

it isnt about me,,so stop deflecting,,,

Why do you want me to comment on an article you didn’t even bother to read?

when did I say I didnt read it???

I wanted your comment because of all the lies you were telling about the doctors in the OP because it proved you wrong and a liar,,,

What lies? That lady Stella Immanuel is a little crazy.

It sure looks like you didn’t read the article because you don’t seem to have any knowledge of the information in it.

why are you singling her out and ignoring the rest of them including Dr risch???

youre doing that because it proves you wrong and a liar,,,

I’m not ignoring Dr Risch, I’ve responded why I don’t find his case compelling. You never read the article so I’m not sure what you’re looking for here.

 

[progressive hunter]

It didn't but we have the disease under control. If people were healthier we would have COVID under control too. We are too fat.

BTW, I don't believe any numbers coming out today. all bullshit. nothing of value or logic. if masks worked then the masks failed if the count went up. there isn't any other way to look at it. the compliance is by 90% of people. fk, the stay at home participation was worse. But yet, the numbers are rising with masks. How can that even be logically? start naming places people frequent where there have been reported outbreaks. none. zip, and the governors are still talking about stricter restrictions. fk them and their administrations. Fake numbers all of them. I say prove it. BTW, if masks work why is it my glasses fog up when I wear one? why do they stick a nine inch swab into one's head rather than a swab from the mouth? anyone else curious? just asking.

Masks are just there for optics. Disease is real. I had it.

If I were fat and or had diabetes, I'd be dead.

God I wish people would just stop pretending they know what they’re talking about.

So now you don't believe me? Excellent. I had firsthand experience. You're discussing theory.

What’s your experience that says masks are just for optics?

Go ahead.

My doctor. Unless you have surgical masks...they are just for show.

Sounds like he may not have been basing that statement on best evidence.

For example:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

We can play link games all day.

Except my link shows that it works in practice. Links don’t work if you don’t read them.

you mean like the link I gave you from Dr Risch proving you wrong on all accounts of the topic at hand???

he has you and me on ignore. we beat his fugley ass. therefore, he didn't read your article, nor will he respond.

he responded a few comments ago, so he doesnt have me on ignore,,at least 20 minutes ago,,,

I don’t have you on ignore, I just don’t have much to say to you.

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

The proof is in the well controlled clinical trials that demonstrated no effect, not cherry picked observational trials.

what was cherry picked???

and those observations were hundreds if not thousands of cases being treated successfully,,,

thats called field trials and was the way things happened for thousands of yrs in medicine,,,

Cherry picking positive studies which have some questionable characteristics and are out of line with the best available data.

prove it,,,

and what was cherry picked???
its an overall observation not cherry picked,, in some cases there was 100% success,,,

Did he mention any of the negative trials in the article?

you tell me,,,

as I said it was an overall observation,,,

You didn’t read the article, did you.

it isnt about me,,so stop deflecting,,,

Why do you want me to comment on an article you didn’t even bother to read?

when did I say I didnt read it???

I wanted your comment because of all the lies you were telling about the doctors in the OP because it proved you wrong and a liar,,,

What lies? That lady Stella Immanuel is a little crazy.

It sure looks like you didn’t read the article because you don’t seem to have any knowledge of the information in it.

why are you singling her out and ignoring the rest of them including Dr risch???

youre doing that because it proves you wrong and a liar,,,

I’m not ignoring Dr Risch, I’ve responded why I don’t find his case compelling. You never read the article so I’m not sure what you’re looking for here.

ignoring his case is not you "not finding it compelling", its you ignoring it,,,

what I think youre saying is all doctors should be ignored because they arent a clinical trial,,,
is that correct???

 

[debbiedowner]

Trump motivated by army of doctors, triggers Left with tweet binge on hydroxychloroquine evidence

Leftists got triggered after Trump retweeted the White Coat Summit, where an army of coronavirus experts declared that hydroxychloroquine works.

www.bizpacreview.com

View attachment 368204
Democrats get
Triggered

Yep maybe she has cured hundreds with demon sperm.

Trump’s New COVID Doctor Says Sex With Demons Makes You Sick

The president is pushing the coronavirus theories of a Houston doctor who also says sexual visitations by demons and alien DNA are at the root of Americans’ common health concerns.

www.thedailybeast.com

Maybe Simone Gold the other doctor saved hundreds at a hospital she says she works at but left there over a year ago.

 

[debbiedowner]

Not sure what they are giving now, but that was part of the standard cocktail our local hospital was using to treat patients during the first months.

I haven’t seen it used in months. We’ve moved on to things with far better data.

View attachment 368215are you calling her a liar?

No idea who she is or what she’s doing. I only know what the data shows, which in medicine is the only thing that should count.

She’s one of America’s front line doctors who treated 350 Covid patients with hydroxyC, If you watch the video there’s 20 other Frontline doctors 100% of their patients were cured because of the drug Trump discovered

Let their patients speak up.

 

[debbiedowner]

LOL

Yeah, you go with that nutcase...

Trump’s New COVID Doctor Says Sex With Demons Makes You Sick

The president is pushing the coronavirus theories of a Houston doctor who also says sexual visitations by demons and alien DNA are at the root of Americans’ common health concerns.

www.thedailybeast.com

I'll go with an informed doctor...

Fauci on ‘Good Morning America’ responds to Trump tweetstorm: ‘I have not been misleading the American public’

"I have not been misleading the American public under any circumstances," the nation's leading expert of infectious diseases said Tuesday.

www.cleveland.com

LMAO @ the Daily Beast ...

You keep parroting the Fake News MSM ....

We ALL understand Leftist ARE NOT capable of independent thought !!!

SMH @ all crazy shit Leftist believe .....

Yep, I laugh my ass off at Breitbart they're just about as reliable.

 

[debbiedowner]

LOL

Yeah, you go with that nutcase...

Trump’s New COVID Doctor Says Sex With Demons Makes You Sick

The president is pushing the coronavirus theories of a Houston doctor who also says sexual visitations by demons and alien DNA are at the root of Americans’ common health concerns.

www.thedailybeast.com

I'll go with an informed doctor...

Fauci on ‘Good Morning America’ responds to Trump tweetstorm: ‘I have not been misleading the American public’

"I have not been misleading the American public under any circumstances," the nation's leading expert of infectious diseases said Tuesday.

www.cleveland.com

LMAO @ the Daily Beast ...

You keep parroting the Fake News MSM ....

We ALL understand Leftist ARE NOT capable of independent thought !!!

SMH @ all crazy shit Leftist believe .....

Her sermons are publicly available.

You guys should be embarrassed.

Ok stick to the argument.. or can you? Lol

The argument is you’re glomming onto a fringe doctor without having any idea who she is.

Ok how does that disprove her 350 patients that recovered because of trumps miracle drug? Stick to the argument if you want to talk to her personal life go start another thread

that article is about her professional life and pretty much discredits her.

 

[debbiedowner]

It didn't but we have the disease under control. If people were healthier we would have COVID under control too. We are too fat.

BTW, I don't believe any numbers coming out today. all bullshit. nothing of value or logic. if masks worked then the masks failed if the count went up. there isn't any other way to look at it. the compliance is by 90% of people. fk, the stay at home participation was worse. But yet, the numbers are rising with masks. How can that even be logically? start naming places people frequent where there have been reported outbreaks. none. zip, and the governors are still talking about stricter restrictions. fk them and their administrations. Fake numbers all of them. I say prove it. BTW, if masks work why is it my glasses fog up when I wear one? why do they stick a nine inch swab into one's head rather than a swab from the mouth? anyone else curious? just asking.

Masks are just there for optics. Disease is real. I had it.

If I were fat and or had diabetes, I'd be dead.

God I wish people would just stop pretending they know what they’re talking about.

So now you don't believe me? Excellent. I had firsthand experience. You're discussing theory.

What’s your experience that says masks are just for optics?

Go ahead.

My doctor. Unless you have surgical masks...they are just for show.

Sounds like he may not have been basing that statement on best evidence.

For example:

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

Cloth Masks Are Useless Against COVID-19

Lisa Brosseau, ScD: "What we’re seeing is a lot of magical thinking. A lot of wishful thinking. Cloth masks are wishful thinking."

www.infectioncontroltoday.com

We can play link games all day.

Except my link shows that it works in practice. Links don’t work if you don’t read them.

you mean like the link I gave you from Dr Risch proving you wrong on all accounts of the topic at hand???

he has you and me on ignore. we beat his fugley ass. therefore, he didn't read your article, nor will he respond.

he responded a few comments ago, so he doesnt have me on ignore,,at least 20 minutes ago,,,

I don’t have you on ignore, I just don’t have much to say to you.

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

only because what I provided you proves you wrong,,,
that and that youre a liar most of the time,,,

The proof is in the well controlled clinical trials that demonstrated no effect, not cherry picked observational trials.

what was cherry picked???

and those observations were hundreds if not thousands of cases being treated successfully,,,

thats called field trials and was the way things happened for thousands of yrs in medicine,,,

Cherry picking positive studies which have some questionable characteristics and are out of line with the best available data.

prove it,,,

and what was cherry picked???
its an overall observation not cherry picked,, in some cases there was 100% success,,,

Did he mention any of the negative trials in the article?

you tell me,,,

as I said it was an overall observation,,,

You didn’t read the article, did you.

it isnt about me,,so stop deflecting,,,

Why do you want me to comment on an article you didn’t even bother to read?

when did I say I didnt read it???

I wanted your comment because of all the lies you were telling about the doctors in the OP because it proved you wrong and a liar,,,

What lies? That lady Stella Immanuel is a little crazy.

It sure looks like you didn’t read the article because you don’t seem to have any knowledge of the information in it.

why are you singling her out and ignoring the rest of them including Dr risch???

youre doing that because it proves you wrong and a liar,,,

I’m not ignoring Dr Risch, I’ve responded why I don’t find his case compelling. You never read the article so I’m not sure what you’re looking for here.

Nope they didn't read the article she practices that kind of shit.