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Really? Then how do you explain this. Governments frequently create large number of laws that can't be understood let alone obeyed without hiring very expensive teams of lawyers which you can't afford. So you are bound to go wrong. As a result you keep clearing various debts as per the passage above, only to trigger the government to double them every time you try to clear them. How do you resolve this contradiction against God's law, without Pumpkin Row's points?In case anyone ever wondered how God felt about it when Nero was slaughtering Jews, or Hitler was gassing the Jews. Your argument is silly, because it's an argument for ethics to be applied based on civilization and geographical location, in which case you support "Might Makes Right" ethics or Arbitrary Ethics, rather than Objective Ethics.God always says to follow the laws. Anyone breaking the laws is committing a sin. God hates sin. Therefore God is for a wall.
What God actually said was that none shall be before God, and when he was referring to Law, he was referring to his own law, not the Laws of some ruler, especially since there were rulers in opposition to God. God even stated when the Israelites asked for a king, that they were not rejecting the Judges, but rejecting God. God saw the use of a ruler as placing one before him. In the same passage in which you would be referring to(
Romans 13:1-14), God plainly states that there is no authority before God. What was being said is that he is always the governing authority. In other words, the rule of man doesn't exist to God.
Galatians 3:11 ESV
Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.”
Acts 5:29 ESV / 77 helpful votes
But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.
In fact, throughout the New Testament, Jesus and his Apostles are fighting the "Law" every step away, the Pharisees were ENEMIES, as they were trying to hinder Jesus, and had twisted the laws to suit their own ends.
You're misinterpreting the bible.
God says to obey the gov't. as he put it there.
Bible instructs followers to obey the government
Romans 13:1-2 says: "Obey the government, for God is the One who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. So those who refuse to obey the law of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow."
Nowhere does the bible say that God says to obey his law and ignore man's laws. You're making that shit up. You will always lose against me in Bible studies. I used to lead a bible study group.
Game. Set. Match. Thanks for playing.
Nwe Jerusalem will be on EARTH. Read your own quote.This story is about the heaven to be. Not the current one. Why would god need a wall in heaven?
I agree. Why do they try and make animals have blue eyes instead of their natural color? They want people to assume they are in agreement with white people.but that would be racistBut Congressman Guitterez has told me that the refuge baby Jesus hates walls.
I can agree with that.
If Trump gets his wall I hope they at least position one of those giant inflatable apes on American side facing Mexico.
I would say so. Whites look more like monkeys than apes.I agree. Why do they try and make animals have blue eyes instead of their natural color? They want people to assume they are in agreement with white people.but that would be racistBut Congressman Guitterez has told me that the refuge baby Jesus hates walls.
I can agree with that.
If Trump gets his wall I hope they at least position one of those giant inflatable apes on American side facing Mexico.
Are you trying to make a claim that apes more closely resemble blacks than whites? My God........
Read your own reply. "will be" That means its not yet retard.Nwe Jerusalem will be on EARTH. Read your own quote.This story is about the heaven to be. Not the current one. Why would god need a wall in heaven?
I would say so. Whites look more like monkeys than apes.I agree. Why do they try and make animals have blue eyes instead of their natural color? They want people to assume they are in agreement with white people.but that would be racistBut Congressman Guitterez has told me that the refuge baby Jesus hates walls.
I can agree with that.
If Trump gets his wall I hope they at least position one of those giant inflatable apes on American side facing Mexico.
Are you trying to make a claim that apes more closely resemble blacks than whites? My God........
Sorry but whites look like monkeys. Some even look like chimps.I would say so. Whites look more like monkeys than apes.I agree. Why do they try and make animals have blue eyes instead of their natural color? They want people to assume they are in agreement with white people.but that would be racistI can agree with that.
If Trump gets his wall I hope they at least position one of those giant inflatable apes on American side facing Mexico.
Are you trying to make a claim that apes more closely resemble blacks than whites? My God........
Once again a person on the left shows ignorance of science.
Humans ARE classified as one of the "great apes" and do not really resemble monkeys at all, no not even the white people you obviously hate.
Sorry but whites look like monkeys. Some even look like chimps.I would say so. Whites look more like monkeys than apes.I agree. Why do they try and make animals have blue eyes instead of their natural color? They want people to assume they are in agreement with white people.but that would be racist
Are you trying to make a claim that apes more closely resemble blacks than whites? My God........
Once again a person on the left shows ignorance of science.
Humans ARE classified as one of the "great apes" and do not really resemble monkeys at all, no not even the white people you obviously hate.
Yes whites look like monkies and yes this is funny.Sorry but whites look like monkeys. Some even look like chimps.I would say so. Whites look more like monkeys than apes.I agree. Why do they try and make animals have blue eyes instead of their natural color? They want people to assume they are in agreement with white people.
Are you trying to make a claim that apes more closely resemble blacks than whites? My God........
Once again a person on the left shows ignorance of science.
Humans ARE classified as one of the "great apes" and do not really resemble monkeys at all, no not even the white people you obviously hate.
No they don't.
However
LOL I don't care who you are , that is just funny.
So. When the government orders you to go kill people who never did s thing to you ( Vietnam/Iraq) and you tell them to fuck off, God thinks you're sinning ?God always says to follow the laws. Anyone breaking the laws is committing a sin. God hates sin. Therefore God is for a wall.
i popped one of your fake pumpkins. Not even lifelike...In that bit, it literally says there is no authority except that which has been established. Second bolded print refers to God's own authority. As I mentioned, and you refused to acknowledge, Jesus and his followers were rebelling against their government in the New Testament. Are you calling Jesus a sinner?In case anyone ever wondered how God felt about it when Nero was slaughtering Jews, or Hitler was gassing the Jews. Your argument is silly, because it's an argument for ethics to be applied based on civilization and geographical location, in which case you support "Might Makes Right" ethics or Arbitrary Ethics, rather than Objective Ethics.God always says to follow the laws. Anyone breaking the laws is committing a sin. God hates sin. Therefore God is for a wall.
What God actually said was that none shall be before God, and when he was referring to Law, he was referring to his own law, not the Laws of some ruler, especially since there were rulers in opposition to God. God even stated when the Israelites asked for a king, that they were not rejecting the Judges, but rejecting God. God saw the use of a ruler as placing one before him. In the same passage in which you would be referring to(
Romans 13:1-14), God plainly states that there is no authority before God. What was being said is that he is always the governing authority. In other words, the rule of man doesn't exist to God.
Galatians 3:11 ESV
Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.”
Acts 5:29 ESV / 77 helpful votes
But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.
In fact, throughout the New Testament, Jesus and his Apostles are fighting the "Law" every step away, the Pharisees were ENEMIES, as they were trying to hinder Jesus, and had twisted the laws to suit their own ends.
St Paul's Letter to the Romans, chapter 13
1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
I didn't realize Hitler was serving God when he gassed the Jews. You sure showed me.6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
Also, you talk about these politicians, taking the fruits of our labor as if they're doing something noble, what's noble about taking someone's money and spending it as they see fit?
Also, there's nothing noble about ruling people, they're granting themselves permission to restrict our rights, kidnap us, imprison us, murder us, steal from us. There's no nobility in government.
That's in reference to God's own law, not some arbitrary law which changes based on ruler and geographical location. You clearly didn't bother reading my post since you're still on about this PRATT.Love Fulfills the Law
8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”[a] and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
Referring to not making trouble, not telling you to put government before God.1 Peter chapter 2
11 Dear friends, I urge you, as foreigners and exiles, to abstain from sinful desires, which wage war against your soul. 12 Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day he visits us.
Believing that verse is telling you to obey the fake authority of the robbers, kidnappers, and murderers in Government over god only shows that you're part of the Cult of the Omnipotent State. I showed other verses which state that the followers of Jesus submit themselves to God, not the Government. You ignored them because your God isn't the Christian God, it's Government.13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. 15 For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish people. 16 Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as God’s slaves. 17 Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.
In this verse, he specifies that he's wanting you to do good, NOT conflating the Government's will WITH good, and telling you to be a mindless Government drone. Taking this to mean what you think it means would have meant that you would have been among the Nazis killing the Jews during the Holocaust, or the Roman Soldiers crusifying Jesus Christ. The will of the HUMANS, the FLAWED HUMANS in government doesn't come before God. However, feel free to argue that it does. Go for it.
Again, not referring to every work of government as good, or an extension of his will, only not to break the law needlessly. Jesus and his followers went against the government because they were unethical.18 Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. 19 For it is commendable if someone bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because they are conscious of God. 20 But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. 21 To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.
Completely unrelated. Apparently you thought that throwing in random unrelated verses would prove your fake point that Government is somehow inherently just and comes before God. Watch the video in my signature.22 “He committed no sin,
and no deceit was found in his mouth.”[e]
23 When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly. 24 “He himself bore our sins” in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; “by his wounds you have been healed.” 25 For “you were like sheep going astray,”[f] but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.
No walls can protect us from immorals who won't obey Ten simple Commandments from a God.Sure.
In fact, in His own realm, He has installed a wall to wit :"And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels," according to reports in the bible.
Compare with his rival, Satan, who has no wall in his realm, just a gate welcoming new immigrants.
Be sure to leave your doors unlockedNo walls can protect us from immorals who won't obey Ten simple Commandments from a God
why not deport them?Be sure to leave your doors unlockedNo walls can protect us from immorals who won't obey Ten simple Commandments from a God
