Does anyone really think Trump can do anything except slow down our final doom?

[turzovka]

Yeah I know all about that Iraq war that Bush started, thanks.
But to think Obama and congress could have used that excuse and not done a thousand times better to help this nation of ours along than they have is pure poppycock. He was a detriment in every sense of the word. And Hildebeest would have continued this power grabbing, unethical and traitorous slide into a nation of angry self-indulgent lustful cry babies with no one of any authority to lead them away from it. The media, equally guilty.

This nation is almost godless, and as a result we have no one to help us fight off our own selfishness and the wiles of the devil. Any advanced and privileged follower of Christianity can see this without question. Unprecedented colossal clashes between good and evil are upon us or soon upon us. Seems as though prophecy is going to unfold, very much as we've read about it in "that book."

Trump or any president is a pawn by comparison. But some of his policies could assist in mitigating some of the harm and hurt we shall deservedly go through. Hillary, on the other hand, would have been an enabler with no real care for the people. High stakes politics is a dirty world.

"A thousand questions do not make for one doubt." John Henry Cardinal Newman

 

[aris2chat]

make america economically sound, strong, secure...............

 

[sealybobo]

Yeah I know all about that Iraq war that Bush started, thanks.
But to think Obama and congress could have used that excuse and not done a thousand times better to help this nation of ours along than they have is pure poppycock. He was a detriment in every sense of the word. And Hildebeest would have continued this power grabbing, unethical and traitorous slide into a nation of angry self-indulgent lustful cry babies with no one of any authority to lead them away from it. The media, equally guilty.

This nation is almost godless, and as a result we have no one to help us fight off our own selfishness and the wiles of the devil. Any advanced and privileged follower of Christianity can see this without question. Unprecedented colossal clashes between good and evil are upon us or soon upon us. Seems as though prophecy is going to unfold, very much as we've read about it in "that book."

Trump or any president is a pawn by comparison. But some of his policies could assist in mitigating some of the harm and hurt we shall deservedly go through. Hillary, on the other hand, would have been an enabler with no real care for the people. High stakes politics is a dirty world.

"A thousand questions do not make for one doubt." John Henry Cardinal Newman

Already excuses for why your way isn't going to work.

No offense but like berney Sanders I'm sick and tired of talking about Hillary's damn emails.

Now is the time for you to implement all your right wing policies. It's time to stop talking and start doing. The elections over. Move on. Don't fuck us.

My grandmother warned us beware of anyone who talks about God too much. And it's turned out to be true. Every time the person was always either up to no good lying or a devil themselves. Shady, creepy.

 

[aris2chat]

55 days Trump will take office

 

[AnCap'n_Murica]

no

 

[007]

Yeah I know all about that Iraq war that Bush started, thanks.
But to think Obama and congress could have used that excuse and not done a thousand times better to help this nation of ours along than they have is pure poppycock. He was a detriment in every sense of the word. And Hildebeest would have continued this power grabbing, unethical and traitorous slide into a nation of angry self-indulgent lustful cry babies with no one of any authority to lead them away from it. The media, equally guilty.

This nation is almost godless, and as a result we have no one to help us fight off our own selfishness and the wiles of the devil. Any advanced and privileged follower of Christianity can see this without question. Unprecedented colossal clashes between good and evil are upon us or soon upon us. Seems as though prophecy is going to unfold, very much as we've read about it in "that book."

Trump or any president is a pawn by comparison. But some of his policies could assist in mitigating some of the harm and hurt we shall deservedly go through. Hillary, on the other hand, would have been an enabler with no real care for the people. High stakes politics is a dirty world.

"A thousand questions do not make for one doubt." John Henry Cardinal Newman

As it goes, one could surmise that it's "TOO LATE," that the debt is too big, the social divides are too big, the damage is done and we can't reverse it. But they said we couldn't put a man on the moon too, and that was way the hell back in 1969. We have more computing power in our smart phones than the moon modules had. So I wouldn't count us out just yet. Jesus can return and rapture us some other time. We have work to do now.

 

[waltky]

I don't think Trump will be the warhawk many fear he will be.

More likely he will use foreign aid as leverage...

... against those who buck him.

 

[dannyboys]

Trump has had to deal with the most evil businessmen on the planet for decades.
He's not afraid of them and they know he knows they know it.
He craps bigger then almost every world leader and they know he knows hey know it.
Trump will eat their lunch everytime he has anything to do with them like he has for decades.
The US caught a huge break by electing Trump instead of a fourth rate grifter like Hillary.
She was in every way nowhere close to Trump's genius.
The best part is Hillary knew Trump knew Hillary knew it.

 

[Syriusly]

Yeah I know all about that Iraq war that Bush started, thanks.
But to think Obama and congress could have used that excuse and not done a thousand times better to help this nation of ours along than they have is pure poppycock. He was a detriment in every sense of the word. And Hildebeest would have continued this power grabbing, unethical and traitorous slide into a nation of angry self-indulgent lustful cry babies with no one of any authority to lead them away from it. The media, equally guilty.

This nation is almost godless, and as a result we have no one to help us fight off our own selfishness and the wiles of the devil. Any advanced and privileged follower of Christianity can see this without question. Unprecedented colossal clashes between good and evil are upon us or soon upon us. Seems as though prophecy is going to unfold, very much as we've read about it in "that book."

Trump or any president is a pawn by comparison. But some of his policies could assist in mitigating some of the harm and hurt we shall deservedly go through. Hillary, on the other hand, would have been an enabler with no real care for the people. High stakes politics is a dirty world.

"A thousand questions do not make for one doubt." John Henry Cardinal Newman

LOL- Donald Trump- the almost godless- your great white hope.

The United States will survive even Donald Trump.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Yeah I know all about that Iraq war that Bush started, thanks.
But to think Obama and congress could have used that excuse and not done a thousand times better to help this nation of ours along than they have is pure poppycock. He was a detriment in every sense of the word. And Hildebeest would have continued this power grabbing, unethical and traitorous slide into a nation of angry self-indulgent lustful cry babies with no one of any authority to lead them away from it. The media, equally guilty.

This nation is almost godless, and as a result we have no one to help us fight off our own selfishness and the wiles of the devil. Any advanced and privileged follower of Christianity can see this without question. Unprecedented colossal clashes between good and evil are upon us or soon upon us. Seems as though prophecy is going to unfold, very much as we've read about it in "that book."

Trump or any president is a pawn by comparison. But some of his policies could assist in mitigating some of the harm and hurt we shall deservedly go through. Hillary, on the other hand, would have been an enabler with no real care for the people. High stakes politics is a dirty world.

"A thousand questions do not make for one doubt." John Henry Cardinal Newman

It's hard to say what God is controlling and what He may not. I just don't know.
"The Son of Man cometh in an hour when you think not."

 

[AnCap'n_Murica]

Actually, his presence could accelerate it, through no fault of his own.

The Fed is now free to pull the monetary rug out from under him, then the economically illiterate media caterwauling to the equally ignorant the masses will blame him.

 

[turzovka]

Already excuses for why your way isn't going to work.

No offense but like berney Sanders I'm sick and tired of talking about Hillary's damn emails.

Now is the time for you to implement all your right wing policies. It's time to stop talking and start doing. The elections over. Move on. Don't fuck us.

My grandmother warned us beware of anyone who talks about God too much. And it's turned out to be true. Every time the person was always either up to no good lying or a devil themselves. Shady, creepy.

Already excuses for why your way isn't going to work.

Thanks Sealybobo, but those are not excuses, they are a Catholic looking at the landscape. I hope I am wrong, but I cannot stick my head in the sand and continue to look for fun and excitement in the time I have on this planet.

No offense but like berney Sanders I'm sick and tired of talking about Hillary's damn emails.

Sick and tired is about the lamest excuse one could ever attempt. You really are impugning yourself and your weaknesses. By the way, did you by chance have the time to look at Glasnost’s post today on pedophilia in high places? It is the most disturbing matter ongoing. It clearly will tell you why Obama, and the Clintons, and their associates are evil, or at least, surround themselves with pure evil. I also noticed that the woman investigating the Clintion Haiti child trafficking operation somehow committed suicide down there. Is that disease contagious?

Now is the time for you to implement all your right wing policies. It's time to stop talking and start doing. The elections over. Move on. Don't fuck us.

Boy are you naïve. This demonic menace the world is under is a thousand times greater than trump or Hillary or Obamacare or a border wall. But I will leave that for another day.

My grandmother warned us beware of anyone who talks about God too much. And it's turned out to be true. Every time the person was always either up to no good lying or a devil themselves. Shady, creepy.

Now doesn’t that bring you comfort? If someone is talking about God a bit too much, you can now rest assured they are evil themselves so stay away from anyone who talks about God. Wow, you have covered all your bases.

 

[sealybobo]

Already excuses for why your way isn't going to work.

No offense but like berney Sanders I'm sick and tired of talking about Hillary's damn emails.

Now is the time for you to implement all your right wing policies. It's time to stop talking and start doing. The elections over. Move on. Don't fuck us.

My grandmother warned us beware of anyone who talks about God too much. And it's turned out to be true. Every time the person was always either up to no good lying or a devil themselves. Shady, creepy.

Already excuses for why your way isn't going to work.

Thanks Sealybobo, but those are not excuses, they are a Catholic looking at the landscape. I hope I am wrong, but I cannot stick my head in the sand and continue to look for fun and excitement in the time I have on this planet.

No offense but like berney Sanders I'm sick and tired of talking about Hillary's damn emails.

Sick and tired is about the lamest excuse one could ever attempt. You really are impugning yourself and your weaknesses. By the way, did you by chance have the time to look at Glasnost’s post today on pedophilia in high places? It is the most disturbing matter ongoing. It clearly will tell you why Obama, and the Clintons, and their associates are evil, or at least, surround themselves with pure evil. I also noticed that the woman investigating the Clintion Haiti child trafficking operation somehow committed suicide down there. Is that disease contagious?

Now is the time for you to implement all your right wing policies. It's time to stop talking and start doing. The elections over. Move on. Don't fuck us.

Boy are you naïve. This demonic menace the world is under is a thousand times greater than trump or Hillary or Obamacare or a border wall. But I will leave that for another day.

My grandmother warned us beware of anyone who talks about God too much. And it's turned out to be true. Every time the person was always either up to no good lying or a devil themselves. Shady, creepy.

Now doesn’t that bring you comfort? If someone is talking about God a bit too much, you can now rest assured they are evil themselves so stay away from anyone who talks about God. Wow, you have covered all your bases.

Let's just say it raises red flags with me when I hear a person talk too much about God. Now that's not to say I haven't met some wonderful people who were Bible Thumpers

 

[EverCurious]

turzovka Well idk if it's any consolation to you, but Alaska is still 70% Christian. (I'm agnostic, which is idk a quarter of the way there? Certainly I can respect religious beliefs and their faith as a powerful thing. )

If we can get through this election I think there will be hope, and not just for us, but I think for other countries that maybe don't have the fire of America's to stand up for themselves - I think it might bolster them when we start acting right again (We've been on the wrong side of quite a few wars the past decades.)

 

[there4eyeM]

[/QUOTE]
It's hard to say what God is controlling and what He may not. I just don't know.
"The Son of Man cometh in an hour when you think not."[/QUOTE]

Then, the way is wide for the coming; thinking doesn't seem present in America.

 

[turzovka]

turzovka Well idk if it's any consolation to you, but Alaska is still 70% Christian. (I'm agnostic, which is idk a quarter of the way there? Certainly I can respect religious beliefs and their faith as a powerful thing. )

If we can get through this election I think there will be hope, and not just for us, but I think for other countries that maybe don't have the fire of America's to stand up for themselves - I think it might bolster them when we start acting right again (We've been on the wrong side of quite a few wars the past decades.)

I appreciate your honest reflection and your hope for the future. Alaska 70% Christian?... hard to believe.

But to reiterate --- I am one of those devout yet often annoying Christians (Catholic) who so often sounds too sure of himself. But I am here to share information and thoughts, not compromise to make others feel better.

I do not believe the near future of America or the planet is in the hands of Trump or any major political leader in the West. I believe the devil is a ferocious, malevolent force that (for reasons beyond our understanding ) God above has allowed quite a bit of influence on the hearts and minds of mankind. Pope Leo XIII had a most famous vision of the future back in 1880’s and saw the terror of the future and knew God had given Satan special opportunity to test the world for the 20th century because the devil’s time was short. Leo then wrote a famous prayer asking the archangel St. Michael for special protection and that prayer was said at the end of every mass for years and years until Vatican II (in all its “wisdom”) did away with it.

Well, (I know I’m going long here) the 20th century proved to be the most evil and murderous and torturous century in history, atheistic communism playing no small part in that. But probably even worse was Christian Europe and Christian North America went soft on religion because they fell in love with comfort, pleasure and sin. It is the poor and suffering and oppressed who pray the most and turn to God. But now, a majority of Christians are so lukewarm in the West (imo) we are ripe for God’s wrath and justice. Look at all the hedonism from youth to lapse parenting to perverse educators and socialists to corrupt governments to corporate and individual greed, and a sexually sick entertainment industry. It will not be long before horrible calamities overtake us --- and no president can stop it.

I still hope I’m wrong, but why should that matter anyway? We are accountable to God as unique individuals, not as a nation. You and I will be judged on how we ignored God or served Him, and more importantly how kind and caring we were towards our neighbor.

 

[sealybobo]

turzovka Well idk if it's any consolation to you, but Alaska is still 70% Christian. (I'm agnostic, which is idk a quarter of the way there? Certainly I can respect religious beliefs and their faith as a powerful thing. )

If we can get through this election I think there will be hope, and not just for us, but I think for other countries that maybe don't have the fire of America's to stand up for themselves - I think it might bolster them when we start acting right again (We've been on the wrong side of quite a few wars the past decades.)

To me, it seems like we are still falling apart. Trump and the GOP winning isn't a step in the right direction it's one step closer to totally privatizing our democracy. Talk about a Plutocracy. A freakin Billionaire is the POTUS for god sakes. Zero taxes for the corporations and rich. Shift all the tax burdens onto us.

Yes my friend, nobles need not pay taxes. We've seen that before.

 

[Brynmr]

Yes

 

[EverCurious]

turzovka Well idk if it's any consolation to you, but Alaska is still 70% Christian. (I'm agnostic, which is idk a quarter of the way there? Certainly I can respect religious beliefs and their faith as a powerful thing. )

If we can get through this election I think there will be hope, and not just for us, but I think for other countries that maybe don't have the fire of America's to stand up for themselves - I think it might bolster them when we start acting right again (We've been on the wrong side of quite a few wars the past decades.)

I appreciate your honest reflection and your hope for the future. Alaska 70% Christian?... hard to believe.

But to reiterate --- I am one of those devout yet often annoying Christians (Catholic) who so often sounds too sure of himself. But I am here to share information and thoughts, not compromise to make others feel better.

I do not believe the near future of America or the planet is in the hands of Trump or any major political leader in the West. I believe the devil is a ferocious, malevolent force that (for reasons beyond our understanding ) God above has allowed quite a bit of influence on the hearts and minds of mankind. Pope Leo XIII had a most famous vision of the future back in 1880’s and saw the terror of the future and knew God had given Satan special opportunity to test the world for the 20th century because the devil’s time was short. Leo then wrote a famous prayer asking the archangel St. Michael for special protection and that prayer was said at the end of every mass for years and years until Vatican II (in all its “wisdom”) did away with it.

Well, (I know I’m going long here) the 20th century proved to be the most evil and murderous and torturous century in history, atheistic communism playing no small part in that. But probably even worse was Christian Europe and Christian North America went soft on religion because they fell in love with comfort, pleasure and sin. It is the poor and suffering and oppressed who pray the most and turn to God. But now, a majority of Christians are so lukewarm in the West (imo) we are ripe for God’s wrath and justice. Look at all the hedonism from youth to lapse parenting to perverse educators and socialists to corrupt governments to corporate and individual greed, and a sexually sick entertainment industry. It will not be long before horrible calamities overtake us --- and no president can stop it.

I still hope I’m wrong, but why should that matter anyway? We are accountable to God as unique individuals, not as a nation. You and I will be judged on how we ignored God or served Him, and more importantly how kind and caring we were towards our neighbor.

I'm sorry to hear you feel that way. If there's a God I'm probably headed south, but I'm actually okay with that - yeah I'm that egotistical myself. I have a personal religious/moral code/belief I'm rather sure you'd hate

That said, all that matters is that you find peace with yourself. It's a hard state to find for some, but if you are truly so worried, then turn inward to your faith and make the effort. The worst that happens is that you find your inner peace brightens the outlook of things. What comes, will come as intended.

Ill comfort again, but if angels are fighting demons, regardless of my likely eternal damnation, I will fight true evil no matter what it's form. I do not fear my death, nor the punishment that may await me, this "blasphemer" is not so far "wrong" as to simply stand aside; and I should hope your God be forgiving enough to allow me to fight for you.

 

[EverCurious]

To me, it seems like we are still falling apart. Trump and the GOP winning isn't a step in the right direction it's one step closer to totally privatizing our democracy. Talk about a Plutocracy. A freakin Billionaire is the POTUS for god sakes. Zero taxes for the corporations and rich. Shift all the tax burdens onto us.

Yes my friend, nobles need not pay taxes. We've seen that before.

I'm afraid cannot agree with pretty much anything you said.

Poor sheep, it's... distressing. ( No, it's not an insult I promise. Sheep/wolves aka followers/leaders is a "normal" part of my idk "ethics" I suppose) Your leaders have treated you very poorly, I do see it, have seen it. Yes, I'm largely exempt so you'll ignore me, I lean right so you'll hate me, but that is the flaw... If Trump doesn't rout out the dark wolves, then we'll try again, and again. Right, left, is irrelevant, it is the people who matter. We need to get back there, back to the middle, and overcome the disrespect (on both sides.) It is a hard fight, maybe a long fight, but I do think there is still a reason to fight and that we can fix things.

Plus, I have like the best luck in the world and I rubbed my belly a lot this cycle - you'll see