Does anyone seriously believe illegals do NOT vote in america!!???

[PoliticalChic]

PoliticalChic, post: 19681915,

Deep down you know that you are lying.

I have documented your exact lie. You cannot document anything.


PoliticalChic, post: 19681096,

The "I" refers to the phrase that comes before it..."undocumented citizens."

"I" as in "if I vote" Is singular. But you can see that "undocumented citizens." is plural.

So for your reconstruction of language project to work, Gina would have to have said, "if we vote".

She didn't say "we" - she said "I".

So you are lying and your lie has a major error.

You certainly must be very sensitive to the truth, as you continue to return with the same lie.

Let the readers decide.

You have not defined my lie.

I'm using the exact words in the same exact order. You can't - you revise dozens of words to suit your lie.

You are running away now. You have no explanation why you edit the transcript to suit your deplorable lie.

If you insist......tell me, when an illegal alien votes.....illegally.....does that make him or her a citizen?

Obama said it does.



Transcript:

RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

The exact words in the exact order.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

PoliticalChic, post: 19681096,

The "I" refers to the phrase that comes before it..."undocumented citizens."

Another fatal flaw in your deplorable lie is that further down the interview Obama tells Gina that when she votes she is a citizen. Obama did not say when she votes she is an "undocumented citizen."

You say when Gina said "when I vote" she is asking for "undocumented citizens."

But Obama contradicts your bullshit.

He is speaking to Gina as in, for a fact, that she is a US citizen.

Obama did not say to Gina, " when you vote you are an undocumented citizen" did he?

But your lie is saying that was exactly what he said.

You can't get away with it except for the stupid haters that take your lyin' words for fact.

Perhaps that is all you care about?

You cannot care about your own personal integrity.

You certainly must be very sensitive to the truth, as you continue to return with the same lie.

Let the readers decide.




Transcript:

RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

The exact words in the exact order.

So you are now admitting that what was exactly said is Obama telling Gina, as a US citizen, that she should vote to give voice to thise in the Latino community who cannot vote.

Thank you for posting the exact words without changing then to suit your lies

 

[rightwinger]

Conspiracy theories?? HAHAHAHA. That's what obama and hillary and all you dems specialize in . Always ranting about how whites are holding down blacks - THE GIANT WHITE CONSPIRACY. And men are holding down women - THE GIANT MALE CONSPIRACY.

White Trumpo held black people down at his properties until he was sued by the Justice Department under the Fair Housing Act.

As long as blacks support affirmative action, they can't complain about discrimination. THINK

Sure they can

 

[rightwinger]

PoliticalChic, post: 19681096,

The "I" refers to the phrase that comes before it..."undocumented citizens."

Another fatal flaw in your deplorable lie is that further down the interview Obama tells Gina that when she votes she is a citizen. Obama did not say when she votes she is an "undocumented citizen."

You say when Gina said "when I vote" she is asking for "undocumented citizens."

But Obama contradicts your bullshit.

He is speaking to Gina as in, for a fact, that she is a US citizen.

Obama did not say to Gina, " when you vote you are an undocumented citizen" did he?

But your lie is saying that was exactly what he said.

You can't get away with it except for the stupid haters that take your lyin' words for fact.

Perhaps that is all you care about?

You cannot care about your own personal integrity.

You certainly must be very sensitive to the truth, as you continue to return with the same lie.

Let the readers decide.




Transcript:

RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

The exact words in the exact order.

So you are now admitting that what was exactly said is Obama telling Gina, as a US citizen, that she should vote to give voice to thise in the Latino community who cannot vote.

Thank you for posting the exact words without changing then to suit your lies

The inability of conservatives (especially PC) to understand the spoken word is legendary

 

[Faun]

PoliticalChic, post: 19681096,

The "I" refers to the phrase that comes before it..."undocumented citizens."

The pronoun "I" as in "if I vote" does not become "they" in any way shape or form. You are a liar.

When reading the rest of the transcript substituting "they" for "I" does not make any sense.

You still claim you do not cut the transcript, but you cut out words and replace them with your own.

That is lying.

Deep down you know that you are lying.

That's what it takes to be a member of the Democrat Party.

If that were true, you’d be the queen of the Democrats.

 

[Faun]

PoliticalChic, post: 19681096,

The "I" refers to the phrase that comes before it..."undocumented citizens."

Another fatal flaw in your deplorable lie is that further down the interview Obama tells Gina that when she votes she is a citizen. Obama did not say when she votes she is an "undocumented citizen."

You say when Gina said "when I vote" she is asking for "undocumented citizens."

But Obama contradicts your bullshit.

He is speaking to Gina as in, for a fact, that she is a US citizen.

Obama did not say to Gina, " when you vote you are an undocumented citizen" did he?

But your lie is saying that was exactly what he said.

You can't get away with it except for the stupid haters that take your lyin' words for fact.

Perhaps that is all you care about?

You cannot care about your own personal integrity.

You certainly must be very sensitive to the truth, as you continue to return with the same lie.

Let the readers decide.




Transcript:

RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

The exact words in the exact order.

LOL

You say that as though we, the readers, haven’t already documented your lies dozens of times.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Easy....show where any illegals voted in the last election
Just verify the citizenship status from voter logs of the last election

HAHAHA. You think illegals will ADMIT they voted ?. Or democrats will admit they allowed it?? THINK

We have voting records and addresses

Simply go to one of those addresses and verify if they are citizens. If illegal voting is that easy....you should find plenty

You won’t

“Simply go to one of those addresses and verify if they are citizens”.

The US Census Bureau simply asks that same question, not visit the address, and your side shits themselves over the notion of asking a question.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

That may be true NOW but when Aunt Barry was in office illegals knew that they could vote without worry. And they did by the millions. It's extremely important to illegals that democrats be in power. THINK

You mean Obama the Deporter?

.

HAHAHA. Show us your evidence that obozo deported the millions he said he deported. Answer is you don't have a shred of evidence cuz it didn't happen. It was a lie just like obozo lied us into obamacare . Aunt Barry invited illegals to come here!! I guarantee his deportations were under 100,000 for his 2 terms

Here's a link where obozo promised "ordinary" illegals they would not be deported.

'You're Not Going to Be Deported,' Obama Assures 'Ordinary' Illegal Immigrants

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Actually it is a blithering ignoramous who thinks millions are voting illegally based on the reality that over a year has passed and not one single illegal alien has been indicted with such a crime.

We already gave you the proof. Obama didn't enforce the laws that say illegals cannot live or work here. Only a blithering ignoramus would then say - "But the laws that say illegals can't vote? Obama insisted that law be enforced". HAHAHA

 

[ShootSpeeders]

As long as blacks support affirmative action, they can't complain about discrimination. THINK

Sure they can

Nope.

 

[usmbguest5318]

Does anyone seriously believe illegals do NOT vote in america!!???

Inasmuch as all the people noted below have asserted that there is no material incidence of voter fraud, I think that if unauthorized individuals vote, it's not worth ushering to the front of the line, as it were, the fact that on rarefied occasions an unauthorized person here and there does cast a vote that shouldn't count.

1. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, in response to Trump’s tweet, tweeted: “We conducted a review 4 years ago in Ohio & already have a statewide review of 2016 election underway. Easy to vote, hard to cheat #Ohio”
2. Louisiana Secretary of State Tom Schedler, a Republican, in a statement, said: “Louisiana did not have any widespread irregularities or allegations of fraud during the 2016 Presidential Election Cycle.”
3. California Secretary of State Alex Padilla, a Democrat, released a series of tweets condemning Trump’s fraud allegations:
   • Jan 23: “Trump continues to falsely allege millions of fraudulent votes. Still no proof. Not an #alternativefact, just a #lie. #DefendDemocracy”
   • Jan 24: “#Trump is dangerously attacking the legitimacy of free and fair elections and taking a jackhammer to the foundation of our democracy.”
   • Jan 25: “@RealDonaldTrump should investigate Russian interference in our elections, not fake claims of voter fraud intended to suppress voting rights”
4. New Mexico Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver, a Democrat, said that the “allegations are simply not true” and that she was “extremely concerned that President Trump is pushing these voter fraud lies to justify future efforts making it harder to vote.”
5. Dean Logan, the Los Angeles County voter registrar, when asked about non-citizens trying to vote, said: “I’ve never seen any incident of that… there are severe penalties. It’s a felony.”
6. Colorado Secretary of State Wayne Williams, a Republican, in a statement, said: “Voter fraud is rare…”
7. Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann, a Republican, said: “We don’t have [voter fraud]... We think we do it right.”
8. Nevada Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske, a Republican, said: “There is no evidence of voters illegally casting ballots at the most recent election in Nevada...”
9. Rhode Island Secretary of State Nellie Gorbea, a Democrat, said: “It is outrageous that the President continues to make unsubstantiated claims about alleged widespread voter fraud.”
10. Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman, a Republican, said: “…as I stated when [Trump] raised this issue last fall, I am confident the election system in Washington state is secure and prevents illegal voting.”
11. Oregon Secretary of State Dennis Richardson, a Republican, wrote in a letter to Trump: “I'm pleased to report that in Oregon we have reviewed the processes and we are confident that voter fraud in last November's election did not occur in Oregon.” He also encouraged Trump to “return full authority over elections to the states.”
12. Former West Virginia Secretary of State Natalie Tennant, a Democrat, tweeted: “there has been no evidence of millions of illegal votes.”
13. Connecticut Secretary of State Denise Merrill, a Democrat, said: “To claim, without a shred of evidence, that millions of ‘illegal votes’ were cast does nothing but undermine people’s confidence in democracy...”
14. Former Missouri Secretary of State Jason Kander, a Democrat, called Trump’s claim “a lie” and said “there is absolutely no reason” to think that fraud occurred in the most recent election.
15. Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap, a Democrat, described voter fraud as “part of a national script” Republicans use to “make it harder for people to vote.”
16. Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson, a Republican, said: “I know of no widespread voter fraud...”
17. Vermont Secretary of State Jim Condos, a Democrat, in a statement: “...unsubstantiated voter fraud claims undermine our democracy and disparage the hundreds of thousands of hard-working election officials across our great nation.”
18. Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes, a Democrat, said: “President Trump’s assertion that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 election is completely unsubstantiated...”
19. Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon, a Democrat, called the claims “false and irresponsible” and expressed concern that the comments “could have the dangerous effect of undermining confidence in the electoral system.”
20. Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan, a Republican, said her office “can say with… confidence that we didn’t have widespread voter fraud in Arizona.”
21. Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin, a Democrat, said that the allegations were “outrageous lies.”
22. Meredith Beatrice, a spokeswoman for Florida’s Secretary of State, said: “[We are] not aware of documented findings of illegal immigrants or non-citizens voting in Florida during the 2016 General Election. We have several safeguards in place to prevent elections fraud.”
23. Wanda Murren, a spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of State, in an email: “We have no evidence at all of voter fraud. There is no evidence that undocumented immigrants voted in November.”
24. Nikki Charlson, Maryland State Board of Elections Deputy Administrator, said: “In Maryland we have had no coordinated effort to impact the outcome of the election...”
25. Erv Switzer, Chairman of the Saint Louis Board of Elections Commissioners, said: “We had absolutely no indication there were any fraudulent votes cast on November 8th and no indication of any fraudulent votes cast in any general election for a number of years.”
26. David Dove, chief of staff to Georgia’s Secretary of State, said: “We haven’t had illegal votes in Georgia...”
27. New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman wrote in a letter to Congress: “We did not receive a single substantiated claim of voter fraud… The lack of such complaints made directly to my office, as well as the absence of referrals from other agencies, leads me to conclude that voter fraud — the act of an ineligible individual casting a vote in an election—is a non-issue, at least in New York State.”
28. The National Association of Secretaries of State, in a press release, stated: “We are not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump… In the lead up to the November 2016 election, secretaries of state expressed their confidence in the systemic integrity of our election process as a bipartisan group, and they stand behind that statement today.”
29. Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI), in response to Trump’s claims that millions of individuals illegally voted, said: “I’ve seen no evidence to that effect. I’ve made that very, very clear...
30. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said: “… I am begging the president, share with us the information you have about this or please stop saying it… As a matter of fact, I’d like you do more than stop saying it, I’d like you to come forward and say, ‘Having looked at it, I am confident the election was fair and accurate and people who voted voted legally.’ Cause if he doesn’t do that, this is going to undermine his ability to govern this country.” He added: “I would urge the president to knock this off; this is the greatest democracy on earth, we’re the leader of the free world, and people are going to start doubting you as a person if you keep making accusations against our electoral system without justification...”
31. Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ), in response to Trump’s claims, said: “That doesn't do anybody any good. That doesn't help him. That doesn't help any of us...”
32. Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) said: “I don't see the evidence [of election fraud].”
33. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) said: “There's no evidence of [voter fraud] and I think that those who allege that have to come up with some substantiation of the claim...”
34. Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, a Republican, said: “I have no evidence whatsoever, and I don't know that anyone does, that there were that many illegal people who voted…”
35. Senator John Thune (R-SD), on the topic of voter fraud, said: “I haven't seen evidence to that effect.”
36. Congressman Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) said Trump’s claim of mass voter fraud “undermines the idea of an election.”
37. President of the New Hampshire Senate Chuck Morse, a Republican, said: “I have been assured by the secretary of state that our elections are good and clean.”
38. Deputy House Majority Whip Tom Cole (R-OK), former Oklahoma Secretary of State, said: “[Voter fraud] doesn't occur on a scale vast enough to change the outcome of the presidential election. So this system broadly renders the opinion of the American people. It's done so consistently for literally hundreds of years — I think it will do it again in three weeks...”
    
39. Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA), in a debate, said: “Our elections may not always be completely perfect, but they are legitimate, they have integrity and everyone needs to respect the outcome.”
40. Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE), in a statement after the third presidential debate, said: “Talking about rigged elections with zero evidence is dangerous because it erodes trust without justification and kindles cynicism that undermines self-government.”
41. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) office released a statement in October saying he is “confident” the election will be carried out fairly.
42. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, said the election system is “actually more secure than it’s ever been in our nation’s history.”

(Source)

Thank you for posting that factual basis that there was NO WIDESPREAD VOTING FRAUD.

But trump's cult members will always believe what comes out of the Dear Leader's .mouth.

Thank you

You're welcome.

trump's cult members will always believe what comes out of the Dear Leader's .mouth.

People will believe what they believe. One cannot do much about that. What one can do is evaluate the body of available facts and assess the nature extent to which another individual considers that body of information. Upon observing that another fails to consider the body of available information, one must conclude that person is either perfunctory in their analysis, partisan, willfully ignorant, etc. All such conclusions speak to the person's character, and at that point, one can chose to ostracize that person from one's own affairs or not. It is always and exclusively one's own choice about the quality of character that one demands of people with whom one willfully interacts. One's marginalizing such individuals may or may not affect their lives, but it will surely improve one's own.

 

[Faun]

PoliticalChic, post: 19681915,

Deep down you know that you are lying.

I have documented your exact lie. You cannot document anything.


PoliticalChic, post: 19681096,

The "I" refers to the phrase that comes before it..."undocumented citizens."

"I" as in "if I vote" Is singular. But you can see that "undocumented citizens." is plural.

So for your reconstruction of language project to work, Gina would have to have said, "if we vote".

She didn't say "we" - she said "I".

So you are lying and your lie has a major error.

You certainly must be very sensitive to the truth, as you continue to return with the same lie.

Let the readers decide.

You have not defined my lie.

I'm using the exact words in the same exact order. You can't - you revise dozens of words to suit your lie.

You are running away now. You have no explanation why you edit the transcript to suit your deplorable lie.

If you insist......tell me, when an illegal alien votes.....illegally.....does that make him or her a citizen?

Obama said it does.

Obama said no such thing. You’re fucking deranged.

He said to Gina, ”when you vote, you are a citizen yourself.” He didn’t say, ”when you vote, you make yourself a citizen,” or ”you become a citizen.”

And when he said, ”when you vote, you are a citizen yourself,” he said that to Gina Rodriguez; who is a citizen herself.

 

[Uncensored2008]

California spends tens of millions each election to get out the illegal alien vote. If illegals aren't voting, California democrats are failing at their jobs.

More lies & yewt another stupid fucking post. If Trump says it, you morons scream "yes Yes Ys".

Trumpettes are the dunmest people on the planet.

DERP

{
As we always knew, California and American elections are filled with fraud and corruption. Thanks to a new poll, we now know that approximately 13% of illegal aliens vote. Since they are already criminals, stealing ID’s or using phony ID’s. lie to get welfare, steal jobs—why not vote as they to lose. Since they can not be deported or jailed, they have nothing to lose. Obama is protecting these law breakers.

Could this be why real citizens don’t vote—the illegal aliens outvote them? Worse, in close elections illegal aliens can make the difference. Corruption? Look at the ballot box. In fact, they could have elected a President and Senator!}
Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote - California Political Review

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Obama said no such thing. You’re fucking deranged.
He said to Gina, ”when you vote, you are a citizen yourself.” He didn’t say, ”when you vote, you make yourself a citizen,” or ”you become a citizen.”

Well of course obozo knew he couldn't come flat out and tell illegals to go ahead and vote. But he got his point across. He deliberately mislead millions of illegals into thinking voting would automatically make them citizens.

 

[Uncensored2008]

California spends tens of millions each election to get out the illegal alien vote. If illegals aren't voting, California democrats are failing at their jobs.

Link that or ADMIT YOU ARE A LIAR
...LIKE YOUR ORANGE DEAR LEADER....

DERP

{
2268.
If a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote pursuant to this chapter in the absence of a violation by that person of Section 18100, that person’s registration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person.




2269.
If a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote pursuant to this chapter and votes or attempts to vote in an election held after the effective date of the person’s registration, that person shall be presumed to have acted with official authorization and shall not be guilty of fraudulently voting or attempting to vote pursuant to Section 18560}

Bill Text - AB-1461 Voter registration: California New Motor Voter Program.

 

[RealDave]

That may be true NOW but when Aunt Barry was in office illegals knew that they could vote without worry. And they did by the millions. It's extremely important to illegals that democrats be in power. THINK

You mean Obama the Deporter?

.

HAHAHA. Show us your evidence that obozo deported the millions he said he deported. Answer is you don't have a shred of evidence cuz it didn't happen. It was a lie just like obozo lied us into obamacare . Aunt Barry invited illegals to come here!! I guarantee his deportations were under 100,000 for his 2 terms

Here's a link where obozo promised "ordinary" illegals they would not be deported.

'You're Not Going to Be Deported,' Obama Assures 'Ordinary' Illegal Immigrants

Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President

I get it, come back with that same old "Fake News" you assholes use as an excuse for your stupidity.

 

[otto105]

With his DACA and DAPA programs Obozo gave millions of these criminal invaders a certificate telling them they can live and work here even though the LAW SAYS THEY CAN DO NEITHER!!! And yet democrats tell us they were strict about enforcing the laws against illegals voting. HAHAHAHA

Obama ENCOURAGED the illegals to vote both 2012 and 16 and they did by the millions. It's extremely important to an illegal that the open borders and welfare party be in power. They undoubtedly vote at a higher rate than citizens do.

Fail

 

[DustyInfinity]

Driver's license to illegals - check. Driver's license to vote - check. I just don't see it.

 

[Faun]

Obama said no such thing. You’re fucking deranged.
He said to Gina, ”when you vote, you are a citizen yourself.” He didn’t say, ”when you vote, you make yourself a citizen,” or ”you become a citizen.”

Well of course obozo knew he couldn't come flat out and tell illegals to go ahead and vote. But he got his point across. He deliberately mislead millions of illegals into thinking voting would automatically make them citizens.

Great, so show there was a mass voter registration of illegal aliens to vote in the says just before the election......

 

[Faun]

Driver's license to illegals - check. Driver's license to vote - check. I just don't see it.

Vehicle Code, Division VI, Chapter 4.5 § 12801.9

(d) (1) A license issued pursuant to this section, including a temporary license issued pursuant to Section 12506, shall include a recognizable feature on the front of the card, such as the letters “DP” instead of, and in the same font size as, the letters “DL,” with no other distinguishable feature.

(2) The license shall bear the following notice: “This card is not acceptable for official federal purposes. This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.”