Does AOC know $15 minimum wage in states like Mississippi will put people out of work?

[Papageorgio]

You haven’t any facts, you are a bigot.

i have valid arguments like Men do.

Good grief saying you have a valid argument, isn’t a valid argument. You won’t explain your position, you don’t clarify your position, so 90% of the time I have no clue what your argument is.

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is a simple cost of living adjustment; unemployment is natural under capitalism and we resort to the socialism of equality and equal protection of the law to correct for that inefficiency of capitalism, for the greater social good and to promote the general welfare.

Name a country where this scenario works?

our current regime is expensive and doesn't solve for capitalism's natural rate of inefficiency.

It will work in our at-will employment States simply because capitalism works. money is fungible.

socialism requires social morals for free to work and everybody has to agree to those same, social morals.

Name a country where it has worked.

 

[Papageorgio]

i am working on dumbing it down for the right wing. they never get it.

There you go, more bigotry, all you do is keep proving me right about you. Thank you!

it is not bigotry to practice having superior arguments to those of the opposing view.

When you claim you need to dumb down for a set of people shows your ignorance and bigotry, thanks for playing.

when you resort to nothing but fallacy and expect to be taken seriously, i have not dumbed it down enough and you need to be bigots about it. it really is that simple.

You are an ignorant bigot and have been unable to refute it. Anything for you deflect. Let’s see your numbers on your universal wage.

 

[danielpalos]

McDonalds survived doubling the price of ground beef
But can’t survive a minimum wage increase

Yes, by passing on costs to consumers.

Which if the consumers refuse to pay the higher price, then no.... they can't survive.

Doubling the cost of beef? When did this happen?

2010

Um.... no.

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The price of beef, has increased barely $1 per lbs, over a period of decades. It's been slowly going up year over year, since the mid-90s.


It most certainly did not double in one year, from 2009, to 2010.
Ridiculous.

Now you might ask the question how can McDonald's handle the cost of beef going up, but not a minimum wage going up?

The answer is simple.... higher prices.

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All costs are passed onto the consumer. All of them. There is no cost, whether it is the cost of payroll, or the cost of beef, that is not passed onto consumers.

Further, the cost of beef, is actually not a major cost to the store. It just isn't. It may seem like it should be, since they are primarily a burger joint, but in reality the full cost of a single big mac, in terms of food costs, is only 80¢. So out of that $4.80 for a big mac, only 80¢ is the food. That means the cost of the beef used, is less than 80¢ because that 80¢ includes the buns, the cheese, the onions, the sauce, and whatever else that is on it.

So what is the other $4? All profit? No, because if it was all profit, McDonald's would be raking in Trillions instead of Billions.

Of course you have store overhead, and you have to pay for the paper supplies, like the wrapper you put the burger in, and the bag, and so on.

But the single biggest expense, is exactly as the person before pointed out.... payroll. If you increase the price of beef, even by 100%.... we're still talking pennies per burger.

But if you increase payroll by 100%, we're talking $600,000.

Additionally, you seem to be equating a slow increase over 20 years, with a minimum wage increase over 2 years. Not at all comparable.

Employers get to expense the cost of Labor; the more expensive Labor is the more they get to expense. Whence any need for excessive drama?

 

[danielpalos]

McDonalds survived doubling the price of ground beef
But can’t survive a minimum wage increase

Evidently you don't comprehend this example of the average McDonalds' operating expenses!

What is McDonald's alternative?

Meet the newest fry cook at the US burger chain CaliBurger: Flippy.
This robot, which will be installed in up to 10 of CaliBurger's 50 locations, can turn patties on a grill and clean it.
Robots are already working in fast-food restaurants — here's exactly what they're doing right now

New McDonald’s In Phoenix Run Entirely By Robots
New McDonald’s In Phoenix Run Entirely By Robots - News Examiner

why is higher paid Labor not able to afford the higher price for burgers?

 

[danielpalos]

i have valid arguments like Men do.

Good grief saying you have a valid argument, isn’t a valid argument. You won’t explain your position, you don’t clarify your position, so 90% of the time I have no clue what your argument is.

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is a simple cost of living adjustment; unemployment is natural under capitalism and we resort to the socialism of equality and equal protection of the law to correct for that inefficiency of capitalism, for the greater social good and to promote the general welfare.

Name a country where this scenario works?

our current regime is expensive and doesn't solve for capitalism's natural rate of inefficiency.

It will work in our at-will employment States simply because capitalism works. money is fungible.

socialism requires social morals for free to work and everybody has to agree to those same, social morals.

Name a country where it has worked.

it can work here. only illegals don't care about the law.

 

[Thinker101]

McDonalds survived doubling the price of ground beef
But can’t survive a minimum wage increase

Evidently you don't comprehend this example of the average McDonalds' operating expenses!

What is McDonald's alternative?

Meet the newest fry cook at the US burger chain CaliBurger: Flippy.
This robot, which will be installed in up to 10 of CaliBurger's 50 locations, can turn patties on a grill and clean it.
Robots are already working in fast-food restaurants — here's exactly what they're doing right now

New McDonald’s In Phoenix Run Entirely By Robots
New McDonald’s In Phoenix Run Entirely By Robots - News Examiner

why is higher paid Labor not able to afford the higher price for burgers?

Because it would confuse you idiots behind the counter.

 

[danielpalos]

i am working on dumbing it down for the right wing. they never get it.

There you go, more bigotry, all you do is keep proving me right about you. Thank you!

it is not bigotry to practice having superior arguments to those of the opposing view.

When you claim you need to dumb down for a set of people shows your ignorance and bigotry, thanks for playing.

when you resort to nothing but fallacy and expect to be taken seriously, i have not dumbed it down enough and you need to be bigots about it. it really is that simple.

You are an ignorant bigot and have been unable to refute it. Anything for you deflect. Let’s see your numbers on your universal wage.

it is not a universal wage, it is correcting for the social inefficiency of Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment with existing legal and physical infrastructure.

Solving for simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States is as market friendly as we can make it under our form of Capitalism.

 

[Papageorgio]

Good grief saying you have a valid argument, isn’t a valid argument. You won’t explain your position, you don’t clarify your position, so 90% of the time I have no clue what your argument is.

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is a simple cost of living adjustment; unemployment is natural under capitalism and we resort to the socialism of equality and equal protection of the law to correct for that inefficiency of capitalism, for the greater social good and to promote the general welfare.

Name a country where this scenario works?

our current regime is expensive and doesn't solve for capitalism's natural rate of inefficiency.

It will work in our at-will employment States simply because capitalism works. money is fungible.

socialism requires social morals for free to work and everybody has to agree to those same, social morals.

Name a country where it has worked.

it can work here. only illegals don't care about the law.

Let’s see the numbers, how many would be on it, when would one be eligible to sign up, what would be the qualifiers? How much exactly would the benefit be per month?

 

[Thinker101]

McDonalds survived doubling the price of ground beef
But can’t survive a minimum wage increase

Evidently you don't comprehend this example of the average McDonalds' operating expenses!

What is McDonald's alternative?

Meet the newest fry cook at the US burger chain CaliBurger: Flippy.
This robot, which will be installed in up to 10 of CaliBurger's 50 locations, can turn patties on a grill and clean it.
Robots are already working in fast-food restaurants — here's exactly what they're doing right now

New McDonald’s In Phoenix Run Entirely By Robots
New McDonald’s In Phoenix Run Entirely By Robots - News Examiner

Yep, and sure hope they're paying those robots more than minimum wage.

 

[Papageorgio]

There you go, more bigotry, all you do is keep proving me right about you. Thank you!

it is not bigotry to practice having superior arguments to those of the opposing view.

When you claim you need to dumb down for a set of people shows your ignorance and bigotry, thanks for playing.

when you resort to nothing but fallacy and expect to be taken seriously, i have not dumbed it down enough and you need to be bigots about it. it really is that simple.

You are an ignorant bigot and have been unable to refute it. Anything for you deflect. Let’s see your numbers on your universal wage.

it is not a universal wage, it is correcting for the social inefficiency of Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment with existing legal and physical infrastructure.

Solving for simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States is as market friendly as we can make it under our form of Capitalism.

Let’s see the numbers? Where has it been successful? Explain the model, who is eligible and when?

 

[danielpalos]

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is a simple cost of living adjustment; unemployment is natural under capitalism and we resort to the socialism of equality and equal protection of the law to correct for that inefficiency of capitalism, for the greater social good and to promote the general welfare.

Name a country where this scenario works?

our current regime is expensive and doesn't solve for capitalism's natural rate of inefficiency.

It will work in our at-will employment States simply because capitalism works. money is fungible.

socialism requires social morals for free to work and everybody has to agree to those same, social morals.

Name a country where it has worked.

it can work here. only illegals don't care about the law.

Let’s see the numbers, how many would be on it, when would one be eligible to sign up, what would be the qualifiers? How much exactly would the benefit be per month?

the paradigm is, solving for simple poverty by correcting for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Labor should be able to apply for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Since we are relying on Capitalism and market based metrics, one dollar an hour equivalent less than the current minimum wage should work.

 

[danielpalos]

it is not bigotry to practice having superior arguments to those of the opposing view.

When you claim you need to dumb down for a set of people shows your ignorance and bigotry, thanks for playing.

when you resort to nothing but fallacy and expect to be taken seriously, i have not dumbed it down enough and you need to be bigots about it. it really is that simple.

You are an ignorant bigot and have been unable to refute it. Anything for you deflect. Let’s see your numbers on your universal wage.

it is not a universal wage, it is correcting for the social inefficiency of Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment with existing legal and physical infrastructure.

Solving for simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States is as market friendly as we can make it under our form of Capitalism.

Let’s see the numbers? Where has it been successful? Explain the model, who is eligible and when?

the scenario is, unemployed Labor can apply for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in our at-will employment States.

 

[Papageorgio]

Name a country where this scenario works?

our current regime is expensive and doesn't solve for capitalism's natural rate of inefficiency.

It will work in our at-will employment States simply because capitalism works. money is fungible.

socialism requires social morals for free to work and everybody has to agree to those same, social morals.

Name a country where it has worked.

it can work here. only illegals don't care about the law.

Let’s see the numbers, how many would be on it, when would one be eligible to sign up, what would be the qualifiers? How much exactly would the benefit be per month?

the paradigm is, by solving for simple poverty by correcting for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Labor should be able to apply for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Again, why can you not answers the questions your idea poses? You know how will it actually work? You claim to have an answer, now prove it by actually giving out how it actually will work.

 

[danielpalos]

our current regime is expensive and doesn't solve for capitalism's natural rate of inefficiency.

It will work in our at-will employment States simply because capitalism works. money is fungible.

socialism requires social morals for free to work and everybody has to agree to those same, social morals.

Name a country where it has worked.

it can work here. only illegals don't care about the law.

Let’s see the numbers, how many would be on it, when would one be eligible to sign up, what would be the qualifiers? How much exactly would the benefit be per month?

the paradigm is, by solving for simple poverty by correcting for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Labor should be able to apply for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Again, why can you not answers the questions your idea poses? You know how will it actually work? You claim to have an answer, now prove it by actually giving out how it actually will work.

the legal and physical infrastructure is already in place in our Republic. we could have solved simple poverty Yesterday, but for the "social Horror" of the Poor may benefit.

 

[Papageorgio]

When you claim you need to dumb down for a set of people shows your ignorance and bigotry, thanks for playing.

when you resort to nothing but fallacy and expect to be taken seriously, i have not dumbed it down enough and you need to be bigots about it. it really is that simple.

You are an ignorant bigot and have been unable to refute it. Anything for you deflect. Let’s see your numbers on your universal wage.

it is not a universal wage, it is correcting for the social inefficiency of Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment with existing legal and physical infrastructure.

Solving for simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States is as market friendly as we can make it under our form of Capitalism.

Let’s see the numbers? Where has it been successful? Explain the model, who is eligible and when?

the scenario is, unemployed Labor can apply for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in our at-will employment States.

So every unemployed person is eligible? Where has this been successfully done? How much will this actually cost? What is the monthly benefit?

 

[Papageorgio]

Name a country where it has worked.

it can work here. only illegals don't care about the law.

Let’s see the numbers, how many would be on it, when would one be eligible to sign up, what would be the qualifiers? How much exactly would the benefit be per month?

the paradigm is, by solving for simple poverty by correcting for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Labor should be able to apply for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Again, why can you not answers the questions your idea poses? You know how will it actually work? You claim to have an answer, now prove it by actually giving out how it actually will work.

the legal and physical infrastructure is already in place in our Republic. we could have solved simple poverty Yesterday, but for the "social Horror" of the Poor may benefit.

This is where your argument fall apart when you avoid getting to the nuts and bolts. Prove your argument.

 

[danielpalos]

when you resort to nothing but fallacy and expect to be taken seriously, i have not dumbed it down enough and you need to be bigots about it. it really is that simple.

You are an ignorant bigot and have been unable to refute it. Anything for you deflect. Let’s see your numbers on your universal wage.

it is not a universal wage, it is correcting for the social inefficiency of Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment with existing legal and physical infrastructure.

Solving for simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States is as market friendly as we can make it under our form of Capitalism.

Let’s see the numbers? Where has it been successful? Explain the model, who is eligible and when?

the scenario is, unemployed Labor can apply for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in our at-will employment States.

So every unemployed person is eligible? Where has this been successfully done? How much will this actually cost? What is the monthly benefit?

sure; in the US, the cost will depend on employment, so the more employers hire the less it should cost. i am advocating for the equivalent to one dollar an hour less than the minimum wage to actually work, for unemployment compensation.

 

[danielpalos]

it can work here. only illegals don't care about the law.

Let’s see the numbers, how many would be on it, when would one be eligible to sign up, what would be the qualifiers? How much exactly would the benefit be per month?

the paradigm is, by solving for simple poverty by correcting for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Labor should be able to apply for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

Again, why can you not answers the questions your idea poses? You know how will it actually work? You claim to have an answer, now prove it by actually giving out how it actually will work.

the legal and physical infrastructure is already in place in our Republic. we could have solved simple poverty Yesterday, but for the "social Horror" of the Poor may benefit.

This is where your argument fall apart when you avoid getting to the nuts and bolts. Prove your argument.

i did; you simply don't understand the concepts.

the Point is that we are Actually solving for actual economic phenomena.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Yeah they ain't gonna pay those illegals fifteen an hour when they can pay them less than eight now them capitalist must live in big mansions and fly jet planes.
Keeping wages low and cost of living high is how the robber barons make their living.

It seems that rich people who agree with you just won't give up their wealth. It would be a good start if they did. Imagine most of Hollywood ponying up their wealth to the cause. It be quite impressive. Removing those pesky taxes not just income and wage taxes taken off the paycheck would help also. thousands and thousands of taxes. Little ones you can barely see. But they add up. Boy they add up. Those with lower wages can live a lot better without them. When your socialism comes in full breast, either everyone sucks on that tit or the privileged jobs we have today will have to be lowered accordingly.

Hollwood type have a high drug bills, and throwing a big party it takes about a half a key to wring one out.

 

[Clementine]

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A Heritage Foundation analysis from 2016 estimated that a $15 federal minimum wage would wipe out 7 million jobs. Hardest hit would be workers, businesses, and economies in areas with low costs of living. (like Mississippi where cost of living is 87% of USA standard.
Mississippi cost of living is 87.8% Mississippi Cost of Living

Liberal activists demand a “living wage,” but the truth is that only a tiny handful of hourly wage workers make the minimum wage or less (4 percent), according to the Employment Policies Institute. On the contrary, a whopping 44 percent of hourly workers currently earn at or below the proposed $15 minimum wage.

Now consider what the $15 minimum wage would do.

For a restaurant that employs 10 minimum wage workers, a $15 minimum wage hike would cost them about $170,000 per year. If the restaurant currently earns profit margins of 5 percent, it would have to increase sales by $3.5 million per year, or an extra $67,000 every week.

But that is not realistic. The likely scenario is that they’ll either have to cut working hours or fire some workers altogether. Either way, most people are worse off than before.

Lawmakers Are Pushing a $15 Minimum Wage. Here Are 3 Disastrous Consequences That Would Result.
Robotic waiters...

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She is like the other indoctrinated idiots and doesn't have a clue. She has been taught to push socialist policies. Those at the top do know that this minimum wage hike will kill jobs and that is exactly what they want. It's just one part of the big plan. They are starting to be honest about wanting open borders, one world government and some are even saying that government dependence is better than independence.

No leftist is at all happy with the lower unemployment rate, the better economy, the tax breaks and especially not the effort to secure the border. They continue to push for gun control (which we all know would lead to total confiscation if the left had their way) and they will continue to follow the Cloward-Piven plan to destroy America. They need to get as many people dependent on government as possible. Between the schools dumbing people down and the mindset that certain people are entitled to everything by virtue of being born, they discourage people from seeking jobs or careers. They need for government to take control over healthcare, production, energy and all food sources.

People like AOC have been brainwashed into believing that socialism is benevolent. They know nothing of history, especially regarding Hitler, the socialist.