Domination

[Agit8r]

1. A perusal of any of the Leftist movements will reveal that all have 'domination' of their fellow citizens as their goal.

You're back, nice

I didn't bother to read your entire spam but let me guess... socialists, communists, liberals, nazis etc. are all the same and totally evil. It all started with that commie FDR and it has been going downhill ever since, only homeschooling and Ayn Rand can save the homeland according to the goddess Coulter and the visionary with alzheimers, St Ronnie.

And you're still clueless about what socialism actually is

Don't fret. Her kind are being systemically exterminated by progress.

Yeah..
According to your side progress is the tearing apart of the moral fabric of the nation. The destruction of the nuclear family. The destruction of our culture

Seems like that rant is familiar from somewhere... oh, right:

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life"
-- Adolf Hitler; from national proclamation (Feb. 1, 1933)

 

[Kosh]

1. A perusal of any of the Leftist movements will reveal that all have 'domination' of their fellow citizens as their goal.

You're back, nice

I didn't bother to read your entire spam but let me guess... socialists, communists, liberals, nazis etc. are all the same and totally evil. It all started with that commie FDR and it has been going downhill ever since, only homeschooling and Ayn Rand can save the homeland according to the goddess Coulter and the visionary with alzheimers, St Ronnie.

And you're still clueless about what socialism actually is

Don't fret. Her kind are being systemically exterminated by progress.

Yeah..
According to your side progress is the tearing apart of the moral fabric of the nation. The destruction of the nuclear family. The destruction of our culture

Seems like that rant is familiar from somewhere... oh, right:

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and co-operation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life"
-- Adolf Hitler; from national proclamation (Feb. 1, 1933)

And that is what you far left drones support!!!

Now hush!!!

Mommy and Daddy are trying to watch the Super Bowl!

 

[JoeB131]

You see, she can't help herself. She's like the BircherBot 2000.

You must hate the way I destroy you with facts and linked documentation.

Sad how little history you know.

But....bet you learn quite a bit from my posts, huh?

Uh, honey when when you make freshman mistakes like quoting falsified quotes, which it took me all of two minutes to debunk, you really don't get to claim to destroy anyone.

It also shows a lack of maturity that you can't simply admit you made a mistake.

 

[ScienceRocks]

1. A perusal of any of the Leftist movements will reveal that all have 'domination' of their fellow citizens as their goal.

You're back, nice

I didn't bother to read your entire spam but let me guess... socialists, communists, liberals, nazis etc. are all the same and totally evil. It all started with that commie FDR and it has been going downhill ever since, only homeschooling and Ayn Rand can save the homeland according to the goddess Coulter and the visionary with alzheimers, St Ronnie.

And you're still clueless about what socialism actually is

Don't fret. Her kind are being systemically exterminated by progress.

Yeah..
According to your side progress is the tearing apart of the moral fabric of the nation. The destruction of the nuclear family. The destruction of our culture

Conservatism destroys the nuclear family by driving down wages and driving away jobs.

Exactly,

One parent could work and one could stay at home only because wages were high enough to do so in the 50's. What did loserterianism do? Drive down wages, offshore and take it all within a few percent of the population.

Loserteriansim has nearly killed the nuclear family.

 

[Dovahkiin]

1. A perusal of any of the Leftist movements will reveal that all have 'domination' of their fellow citizens as their goal.

The term itself means....
a.Control or power over another or others.

b.The exercise of such control or power.
The Free Dictionary

That domination is produced, largely, via indoctrination...but just as regularly, by genocide, slaughter, government enforced famine, and by bullets.....followed by indoctrination of those who survive.



2. In modern times, whether communism, socialism, Marxism, Nazism, Progressivism, or modern Liberalism.......the view can be traced to Hegel, and to Marx.

a. The Germans have a history of embracing authoritarian rule. As the German philosopher Hegel said, “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”


b. We can find the very same view under Franklin Roosevelt's reign, heard in these words of A.B. “Happy” Chandler, a former Kentucky governor: “[A]ll of us owe the government; we owe it for everything we have—and that is the basis of obligation—and the government can take everything we have if the government needs it. . . . The government can assert its right to have all the taxes it needs for any purpose, either now or at any time in the future.” From a speech delivered on the Senate floor May 14, 1943
Happy Chandler’s dangerous statism




To see a very different view, one traditionally American....hear the echo of Henry David Thoreau: “There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.” Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience,




3. To the view that every individual must bow to the collective, Karl Marx added murder as an inducement:

"Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.

a. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981

b. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first." George Watson.


Yet, note how many have been trained to accept subjugation, and domination.
65 million American voted for the latest iteration of totalitarian governance....the one currently in the White House.

65 million American voted for the latest iteration of totalitarian governance....the one currently in the White House.

Wait, a democratically elected president is a totalitarian? Obama is not a "dictator." You're a paranoid psychopath, from what I've seen of your posts, that can't stand the fact the right wing lost the last presidential election.

 

[JoeB131]

No it isn't.....Marx, Lenin and Hitler......There are 150 million bodies.
The thing that crawls up your ass about this is, the article is spot on..Realizing this, you retort with "yeah but your guys did it too"......
Just own it and shut up...

If you guys own the genocide of Native Americans, the genocide of the Australian Aborigines, the Genocide in China committed by the Japanese, the genocide of Africans in the Congo by Belgium. Probably just as many bodies there. We can also count the Taiping Rebellion, caused by European Imperialism encroaching into China, that cost about 20 million lives. I mean, if you want to talk about owning things.

Or we can just admit, human beings tend to be pretty shitty to each other.

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's hilarious that the OP accuses the left of wanting 'domination' when she herself wants the nation dominated by God.

 

[JoeB131]

Your degree?....HA...
Oh, and since when does one's presence in a classroom in a building marked "________ University", and populated by a bunch of left wing radicals make any difference. A degree is a degree as long as one does the work.
Half the kids that attend these schools don't go to class but perhaps a couple times a week. They get their work on line....Why the hell do you think these kids are required to have lap tops and tablets?....Facebook?

When I was in college, I was pretty Right Wing, Young Republican bullshit. 20 years of working in the private sector cured me of that crap.

And, no, a degree like the University of Phoenix is bullshit. I've done their resumes. I've seen people who get on-line master's degrees who can't structure a sentence.

 

[JoeB131]

if you've ever had the misfortune of reading Joe B's tribulations in his working career and personal battles, you'd see and angry irrational emoting individual that will literally fly off the handle at the mere mention of a few choice words.
One such term would be "capitalist" ..Another would be "profit"......And another "competition".....And "merit"..
Please do yourself a service by taking JoeB, an admitted former GOP voter, comments with the due notice to which they are entitled

Yeah, you know, here's the thing, guy. Those words usually don't mean a lot to those of us who aren't 1%ers..

Conservatism is like Stockholm Syndrome. You've started to identify with your abusers.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Socialism is basically what you think it is.

I see it as living and working in a tolerant and caring society.

Others, certainly in America, see it as oppressing the individual.

I struggle to get my head around a ME ME philosophy. Socialism grew out of a long history of oppression against the working man. The lesson is clear. Alone we are not strong enough to stand up to the mighty. Together we are.

This is the best definition I have ever come across.

“The socialism I believe in is everyone working for each other, everyone having a share of the rewards. It’s the way I see football, the way I see life.” Bill Shankly

Oh fuck you and your left wing shit.

Let us all know why if your fucking utopia "caring for the poor people" is so great why so many from those utopias are trying to get here from there?

I already know for a fucking fact you never actually lived in those conditions. Not as a poor person.

Meanwhile, go ahead and explain why the poor from such a horrible system here are not trying to escape to those "utopias."

I have read your posts and you are nothing but a typical left wing bleeding heard asshat. Really, typical. You think you are so educated and really you are ignorant as all fuck.

With all due disrespect. I will be waiting for you to answer why so many from those great utopias are trying to get to this country if things are "oh so great."

As usual with your "type". Abuse follows very soon after the argument is lost. Go and play with your gun collection kid.

The moment you mentioned support for the socialist utopia the argument was lost. By you.

Most of europe uses social democracy and so do we. The fact that we regulate and have a public sector makes us one. Works a shit ton better then pure unregulated capitalism ever would.

Once you give up on government you have given up on civilization, because no civilized society can exist without government.

 

[Agit8r]

No it isn't.....Marx, Lenin and Hitler......There are 150 million bodies.
The thing that crawls up your ass about this is, the article is spot on..Realizing this, you retort with "yeah but your guys did it too"......
Just own it and shut up...

If you guys own the genocide of Native Americans, the genocide of the Australian Aborigines, the Genocide in China committed by the Japanese, the genocide of Africans in the Congo by Belgium. Probably just as many bodies there. We can also count the Taiping Rebellion, caused by European Imperialism encroaching into China, that cost about 20 million lives. I mean, if you want to talk about owning things.

Or we can just admit, human beings tend to be pretty shitty to each other.

Don't forget all the famines that the East India Company caused. That's what corporate rule looks like.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Can anyone name any rightwingers who DON"T want the Right to dominate America?

 

[Kosh]

Can anyone name any rightwingers who DON"T want the Right to dominate America?

This from a far left drone that sees anything not far left as the "right"..

Can any far left drone show they do not want the far left to rule without question or opposition?

Now hush!

Mommy and Daddy are trying to watch the Super Bowl!

 

[JoeB131]

All of which are excuses to destroy the concept of individual freedom and liberty.
The leftist version of "caring" is always defined by redistribution of wealth and effort. It is also based on the belief that to be a part of a society that each individual "owes" it to the less fortunate to supply those people a means to live as well as those who earned their lifestyle.
Simply put "to each according to his needs. From each according to his abilities"....
Caring? Why is it you people believe caring and compassion always begins and ends in the bank accounts of others?
And it is usually from those least able to afford such largess.

Guy, here's the thing. The GDP of the United States is 17,000,000,000,000 a year.

The population is 300,000,000

If you had TRUE even wealth distribution, every American would get $56,666.00. That's for every MAN WOMAN AND CHILD. so a family of four would be entitled to $226,664.

Of course, that's unreasonable. The children aren't producing anything.

I would even go so far as to say that some work is more valuable than others.

But the insanity is when people working 40 hours a week making minimum wage can't pay the rent, but some CEO gets an 8 figure salary for bankrupting his company, that's when you don't have to be a "communist' or a "Socialist" to realize something is pretty fucked up.

 

[Kosh]

All of which are excuses to destroy the concept of individual freedom and liberty.
The leftist version of "caring" is always defined by redistribution of wealth and effort. It is also based on the belief that to be a part of a society that each individual "owes" it to the less fortunate to supply those people a means to live as well as those who earned their lifestyle.
Simply put "to each according to his needs. From each according to his abilities"....
Caring? Why is it you people believe caring and compassion always begins and ends in the bank accounts of others?
And it is usually from those least able to afford such largess.

Guy, here's the thing. The GDP of the United States is 17,000,000,000,000 a year.

The population is 300,000,000

If you had TRUE even wealth distribution, every American would get $56,666.00. That's for every MAN WOMAN AND CHILD. so a family of four would be entitled to $226,664.

Of course, that's unreasonable. The children aren't producing anything.

I would even go so far as to say that some work is more valuable than others.

But the insanity is when people working 40 hours a week making minimum wage can't pay the rent, but some CEO gets an 8 figure salary for bankrupting his company, that's when you don't have to be a "communist' or a "Socialist" to realize something is pretty fucked up.

A good reason why to never vote far left!

So you going to make Hilary give up her millions to match Sanders?

Now hush!

Mommy and Daddy are trying to watch the Super Bowl!

 

[Agit8r]

Can anyone name any rightwingers who DON"T want the Right to dominate America?

They are entirely about domination. Always arguing they should be able to kill people for no reason. That companies should be able to dictate reproductive choices for their employees. That the rich should be allowed to buy politicians. That they should be able to pollute the people's air and water. It's disgusting and unAmerican.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It's hilarious that the OP accuses the left of wanting 'domination' when she herself wants the nation dominated by God.

Seems a pretty good idea to me.

1. If there is no God, "Love your neighbor as yourself" is just a good idea. That's why it is written, incidentally, in Leviticus, "Love your neighbor as yourself, I am God." I, God, tell you to be decent to other people.
2. And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubilee unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.
   – Leviticus 25:10
   
   The bolded portion of the quotation is inscribed on the Liberty Bell
   

 

[JoeB131]

Critics claim China is trying to stamp out Buddhism by hunting down monks and nuns loyal to the Dalai Lama, close down monasteries and force their residents to return to secular life.

China staunchly defends its policy on Tibet and insists that the Tibetan people enjoy complete religious freedom. Critics of Beijing's rigid approach to Tibet accuse the Chinese of attempting to destroy its traditional culture and religion.

So what? Hey the thing was, the Dalai Lama has done a good job selling himself to Hollywood liberals, but he ran a regime that was actually pretty awful for most average Tibetans, pretty freaking close to slavery.

Again, what are the Han Chinese doing to the Tibetans that White Americans didn't do to the Navaho or the Apache or the Cherokee?

 

[Kosh]

Can anyone name any rightwingers who DON"T want the Right to dominate America?

They are entirely about domination. Always arguing they should be able to kill people for no reason. That companies should be able to dictate reproductive choices for their employees. That the rich should be allowed to buy politicians. That they should be able to pollute the people's air and water. It's disgusting and unAmerican.

See how the far left ignores their own and want to blame anything not far left!

Now hush!

Mommy and Daddy are trying to watch the Super Bowl!

 

[NYcarbineer]

It's hilarious that the OP accuses the left of wanting 'domination' when she herself wants the nation dominated by God.

Seems a pretty good idea to me.

1. If there is no God, "Love your neighbor as yourself" is just a good idea. That's why it is written, incidentally, in Leviticus, "Love your neighbor as yourself, I am God." I, God, tell you to be decent to other people.
2. And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubilee unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.
   – Leviticus 25:10
   
   The bolded portion of the quotation is inscribed on the Liberty Bell

You are incapable of morality without the specter of an imaginary monster hanging over you.

That is a sad commentary on your character.