DONE - GOING TO JAIL! -- Official: Some Clinton emails 'too damaging' to release'

[Arianrhod]

I asked you to explain yourself when you chimed in with how you said what thrills "they" had left and you asked me to prove you wrong.

Exactly. Now how many more times do you need to go over this before you get it? And why don't you want to talk about Hillary anymore?

Too late.

Too late to talk about Hillary? So you've given up hope that she'll go to prison. So noted.

 

[JoeB131]

Can one morally vote for the lesser of two evils? In a word, no. A basic principle of Judeo-Christian teaching and of the natural law to which the country was married by the Declaration of Independence is that one may not knowingly do evil that good may come of it.

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So, is a vote for [a third party] or no vote at all wasted? I reject the idea that a principled vote is wasted. Your vote is yours, and so long as your vote is consistent with your conscience, it is impossible to waste your vote.

On the other hand, even a small step toward the free market and away from … central economic planning would be at least a small improvement for every American’s freedom. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

A vote for someone who can't win and can't run the country if they did is a wasted vote.

 

[Arianrhod]

Or maybe they are setting you guys up. They make a bid deal, you insist on releasing them, and then we all find out they are no big deal.

That's when they'll start thread after thread claiming the emails were redacted and anyway they're not the REAL emails. 'Cause, y'know, Reasons.

 

[JoeB131]

Let me make this simple for the partisan Democrats. The "Special Access Program" SAP is a sub-group of Top Secret. It is the most secure/secret of all government communications. Having a Top Secret security clearance is not enough to view SAP information- SAP emails require a special code be input to open. The codes change at random times.

hiLIARy's secret server had SAP emails on it. That means she knew they were classified AT THE TIME.

Except no one has claimed that. All they've claimed is that they have information that was LATER classified. BUt that's okay, you keep chasing that white whale...

 

[JoeB131]

Brian Williams was demoted and almost fired from NBC because he lied about being under fire when he wasn't.

The dumbass Moon Bats are going through the process of nominating Hillary Clinton as President when she lied about stolen valor in Bosnia.

Of course this is the same family where Bill Clinton had sex with an intern in his business office but was not fired from his job so maybe that family just thinks they are special.

NBC is a private company. If you guys want to make a big deal about the fact she was really scared when she flew into a war zone, that's fine. It's probably easier than coming up with reasons why you fuckheads won't bring us more wars and recessions.

 

[oreo]

Oreo, the FBI is conducting the investigation. The State Dept can't clear her of shit. As already posted, it was the State Dept that declared she never turned over everything she was required to by law, which means you're full of crap. The same ignorant liberals keep ignoring the same facts and keep repeating the same false statements. Still doesn't make 'em true, no matter how many times you do it.

And Hillary, knowing these e-mails will not be released under ANY circumstances, according to the WH, can demand the release of them - FOR SHOW - all day long but it's just an act, one only idiot liberals and Hillary apologists would buy.

The State department has repeatedly stated she did nothing WRONG. The FBI has investigated the Clinton's for the last 25 years, and nothing has come about by any of those investigations.

The State Department said it had "upgraded" the classification of the emails at the request of the nation's intelligence agencies. Kirby said that none of the emails had been marked at any level of classification at the time they were sent through Clinton's computer server.

Obama administration confirms 22 emails on Hillary Clinton's home server were classified 'top secret'

Meaning she is NOT going to get indicted for any wrong doing, and she's certainly NOT going to end up in handcuffs or jail.

You're simply chasing another strawman--brought to you by Reich wing talk radio, and like Bengazi, in the end you'll look like Republican retards--who just have an axe to grind and are out for another Clinton dog & pony show.

 

[mascale]

The OP refers to "Now Classified" information, likely from an "undisclosed location(?)!" That is routine, but actually has been illegal since 2009. Executive Order 13526 requires classification at the start, and with a certain date of declassification.

Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information

The Republicans still do not follow a concept of lawful government.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!
(Lands of Many Nations now openly advertise!)

 

[Flash]

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NBC is a private company. If you guys want to make a big deal about the fact she was really scared when she flew into a war zone, that's fine. It's probably easier than coming up with reasons why you fuckheads won't bring us more wars and recessions.

Speaking of fuckheads and war that fuckhead that you voted for has been at war every day of his failed administration. Fought the war in Iraq for three years lost it and now has troops back and bombers bombing. He escalated the "good" war in Afghanistan got thousands of Americans killed, bombed Doctors Without Borders Hospitals and looks he is going to lose that war now. Then you have him bombing Libya than never poised a threat to the US. His administration the other day is now saying we will need troops in Afghanistan indefinitely.

Of course saying that you are against war won't stop you Moon Bats from voting for The Bitch who supported the invasion of Iraq, will it?

Brian Williams got in trouble because he lied and tried to steal valor. Only assholes do that. Clinton did exactly the same thing and you Moon Bats won't hold her accountable because you have no moral foundation on anything. Things like that is why we ridicule you Moon Bats for your stupidity so much.

 

[jknowgood]

The Obama administration is stating that those emails could endanger our national security, not me. Either Hillary or Obama is lying, both your guys. So which is it?

Are you some kind of retard? Did someone try to take your helmet?

What part of the Obama administration saying 22 of those emails would endanger our national security don't you understand? Your party is ruining america.

That happens to be an opinion, not fact. Sorry you can't see the difference. So you guys on the right do have a problem. You can't accuse Hillary of espinoge without discussing what she actually had. I feel bad for you.

Or maybe they are setting you guys up. They make a bid deal, you insist on releasing them, and then we all find out they are no big deal.

The Obama administration said that they couldn't be released because it would effect our national security. To bad your head is so far up Hillary's ass you are blind. She is a criminal and needs to go.

 

[Redfish]

The rubes never learn.

Oh wait. This time is different from the other hundred times they declared Obama or Hillary was going to jail for certain. Just because ... well, it is, that's why!

Can you imagine how bleak their lives must be that the only thrill left is waiting for Hillary to go to jail (and all of the lurid fantasies they entertain themselves with)? So sad, really.

I don't think she will go to jail, she should but with Obama and Lynch at the controls they will find a way to ignore the FBI findings.

Now, if she loses the first few primary states, things might change. remember, the obamas and Clintons hate each other and Obama would much rather back Biden

Obama urged Biden not to run. He hates Hillary so much that he named her Sec of State.......ensuring her the presidency in 2016

you are either very ignorant or very stupid. Clinton was SecState as part of a deal with obozo to keep quiet with what she had on him regarding his past and help him win in 2008.

The Biden thing was just that, a thing. The conjured that up to make it look like they supported the hildebeast while watching her self destruct, leaving Biden as the only viable candidate. Obozo knows he could control Biden.

It amazes me that you are so blind that you cant see how this all unfolded. Are you that partisan that it has killed every one of your brain cells?

 

[Redfish]

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The uppity Muslim negro beat the best candidate Republicans had to offer by a 2:1 margin

Republucans have never managed to beat that uppity negro have they?

...and you saw what a disaster that was for the country.

The uppity Negro Muslim was able to put together a coalition of all the despicable greedy assholes in the country but after the disastrous election for the Moon Bats in 2010 and 2014 midterms and the two shitty candidates the Moon Bats have this year it doesn't look good for them.

One of them is a silly ass deranged card carrying Communist and the other one will have an ID card for the Federal Women's Correctional Facility.

Disaster?

Stopped a depression, added 9 million jobs, saved the auto industry, killed bin laden .......not too shabby for a community organizer

If it was true, it would be, but its not. There are more unemployed today than in 2007, more on welfare, more on food stamps, and more underemployed. Plus he has doubled the national debt and made Putin look like a statesman. Bin Laden was found using intel developed during the Bush admin, all obozo did was give the ok to hit him. The auto bailout didn't save anything-------------except the UAW and its donations to the DNC.

 

[Redfish]

I don't think she will go to jail, she should but with Obama and Lynch at the controls they will find a way to ignore the FBI findings.

Ah, so that's the RW fallback position, and the whiiiiiine y'all will be repeating for the next 4-8 years and beyond. Just checking.

we shall see. This may be so big that even the great Kenyan messiah cant sweep it under the rug.

 

[Flash]

This is the type of place where Hillary Clinton is going to be spending Inauguration Day, 2017.

Bookmarked.

You gonna look sooo stupid when I plop this post back in your face.

Hey! Look! Vince Foster!

I don't know if the filthy ass Obama Administration has the courage to do the right thing and indict The Bitch, especially with that dumbass Affirmative Action Ho as AG. The Obama Administration certainly has no record of having the intellectual and moral courage to do the right thing on anything else so The Bitch being in jail is not a done deal yet although it should be.

Regardless of her going to jail or not you can bet your bottom dollar that outside of you dumbass hardcore Moon Bats nobody is going to vote her for President.

You Moon Bats are pretty much screwed with having The Silly Communist and the corrupt lying criminal incompetent Bitch as your potential candidates. You are in denial big time about it now but you will get a wake up call soon.

You would think that after the major ass kicking you Moon Bats took in 2014 that you would have got better candidates than you did. You are not too bright, are you?

 

[mamooth]

It amazes me that you are so blind that you cant see how this all unfolded. Are you that partisan that it has killed every one of your brain cells?

So, can you explain to everyone why none of those hundreds of previous "Going to jail for sure this time!" claims have ever panned out?

We can easily explain it. Your masters constantly spoon feed you such inane BS because they know you have such a hearty appetite for it. I'd just like to hear your explanation, as it will no doubt be very amusing. That goes for the rest of the righty Useful-Idiots on this thread; we'd like to hear your ravings about why the real world and yourself never get acquainted.

 

[rightwinger]

I would point that when Karl Rove,

we are talking about NOW. Encryption techniques and Email in general is light years ahead of 2003 or so. Attachments, classifications are levels of sophistication as well as Backup recover schemes.

give it a rest. This is 2015.......not 2003. running your own EMAIL with public owned information is a huge violation.

Yes...we are talking NOW (4 years ago actually)

NOW that it is a Democrat in the office

 

[paperview]

The OP refers to "Now Classified" information, likely from an "undisclosed location(?)!" That is routine, but actually has been illegal since 2009. Executive Order 13526 requires classification at the start, and with a certain date of declassification.

Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information

The Republicans still do not follow a concept of lawful government.

"Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!
(Lands of Many Nations now openly advertise!)

Thank you for that info.

It lead me to this interesting article...


The Hillary Clinton e-mail ‘scandal’ that isn’t
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Does Hillary Clinton have a serious legal problem because she may have transmitted classified information on her private e-mail server? After talking with a half-dozen knowledgeable lawyers, I think this “scandal” is overstated. Using the server was a self-inflicted wound by Clinton, but it’s not something a prosecutor would take to court.

“It’s common” that people end up using unclassified systems to transmit classified information, said Jeffrey Smith, a former CIA general counsel who’s now a partner at Arnold & Porter, where he often represents defendants suspected of misusing classified information.
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What happens in the real world of the State Department? Smith takes the hypothetical example of an assistant secretary who receives a classified cable from, say, Paris, about a meeting with the French foreign minister and wants quick guidance from the secretary. So he dashes off an e-mail — rather than sending a classified cable that would be seen by perhaps a dozen people.

“Technically, he has taken classified information and put it onto an unclassified system,” Smith said. “It’s the same as picking up a telephone and talking about it. It’s not right. But the challenge of getting the secretary’s attention — getting guidance when you need it — is an inevitable human, bureaucratic imperative. Is it a crime? Technically, perhaps yes. But it would never be prosecuted.”

Informal back channels existed long before e-mail. One former State Department official recalled the days when most embassies overseas had only a few phones authorized for secret communications. Rather than go to the executive office to make such a call, officers would use their regular phones, bypassing any truly sensitive details. “Did we cross red lines? No doubt. Did it put information at risk? Maybe. But, if you weren’t in Moscow or Beijing, you didn’t worry much,” this former official said.

Back channels are used because the official ones are so encrusted by classification and bureaucracy. State had the “Roger Channel,” named after former official Roger Hilsman, for sending secret messages directly to the secretary. The Joint Chiefs of Staff had a similar private channel. CIA station chiefs could send communications known as “Aardwolves” straight to the director."

The Hillary Clinton e-mail ‘scandal’ that isn’t

 

[rightwinger]

The rubes never learn.

Oh wait. This time is different from the other hundred times they declared Obama or Hillary was going to jail for certain. Just because ... well, it is, that's why!

Can you imagine how bleak their lives must be that the only thrill left is waiting for Hillary to go to jail (and all of the lurid fantasies they entertain themselves with)? So sad, really.

I don't think she will go to jail, she should but with Obama and Lynch at the controls they will find a way to ignore the FBI findings.

Now, if she loses the first few primary states, things might change. remember, the obamas and Clintons hate each other and Obama would much rather back Biden

Obama urged Biden not to run. He hates Hillary so much that he named her Sec of State.......ensuring her the presidency in 2016

you are either very ignorant or very stupid. Clinton was SecState as part of a deal with obozo to keep quiet with what she had on him regarding his past and help him win in 2008.

The Biden thing was just that, a thing. The conjured that up to make it look like they supported the hildebeast while watching her self destruct, leaving Biden as the only viable candidate. Obozo knows he could control Biden.

It amazes me that you are so blind that you cant see how this all unfolded. Are you that partisan that it has killed every one of your brain cells?

Quite a conspiracy you have going there

Wanna talk about the moon landing?

 

[JoeB131]

Speaking of fuckheads and war that fuckhead that you voted for has been at war every day of his failed administration. Fought the war in Iraq for three years lost it and now has troops back and bombers bombing. He escalated the "good" war in Afghanistan got thousands of Americans killed, bombed Doctors Without Borders Hospitals and looks he is going to lose that war now. Then you have him bombing Libya than never poised a threat to the US. His administration the other day is now saying we will need troops in Afghanistan indefinitely.

Yes, Bush fucked up the region really good and we'll probably be spending years there trying to fix it. What is your point, dummy?

Of course saying that you are against war won't stop you Moon Bats from voting for The Bitch who supported the invasion of Iraq, will it?

Clinton gave Bush the authority, on the premise he would use it responsibly. IT's not her fault he didn't.

Brian Williams got in trouble because he lied and tried to steal valor. Only assholes do that. Clinton did exactly the same thing and you Moon Bats won't hold her accountable because you have no moral foundation on anything. Things like that is why we ridicule you Moon Bats for your stupidity so much.

Well, it wasn't EXACTLY the same thing. Hillary said that from her perspective, Bosnia in the middle of the Balkan War was a pretty scary place. I'm sure the hundreds of armed men around her and her daughter made it so.

Williams claimed his helicopter had been hit. It wasn't.

 

[leftwinger]

The secret attachments sent in over 6 years alone should be good for 10 years in SingSing.

Many are locked up for less. I see a PLEA DEAL coming for Da' Beast.

Drop out of Presidential race in exchange for Felonys' dropped? If they don't prosecute HER they will have to let ALL others go free and never prosecute anyone again. Ananrchy. Do whatever you want.

 

[bravoactual]

Her excuse saying that they were noer t marked classified is a horrible excuse. Hello you want to be president and you cant tell what is classified or not .. Sorry go to jail

"The intelligence community has now deemed some of Hillary Clinton’s emails “too damaging" to national security to release under any circumstances, according to a U.S. government official close to the ongoing review. A second source, who was not authorized to speak on the record, backed up the finding. "

"Na na na na
Na na na na
Hey, Hey, Hey
GOOD-BYE!"

Go to jail. Go DIRECTLY to Jail. Do NOT pass 'Go'. Do NOT collect $200. Do NOT Win the DNC Nomination. Do NOT continue Campaigning. Do NOT get put on the ballot. DO go down as the 1st 1st Lady to Go to Jail for NUMEROUS Felonies - crimes under the ESPIONAGE Act and for CORRUPTION Charges!

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Selling Russia 1/5th of the US uranium Stockpile.

Caught and stopped TRYING to sell the Russians several of the Aleutian Islands & their mineral rights.

Caught taking contributions from foreign millionaire whose company she protected from legal punishment for violating Iranian Sanctions - running illegal goods to Iran - WHILE she served as Secretary of State ('Corruption'/'Influence Peddling)

Taking millions from Islamic nations that finance and support terrorism.

Taking millions from Islamic nations that oppress women, engage in female genital mutilation, and who murder homosexuals.

Hiring an AL QAEIDA-associated Militia to protect a US Ambassador.

Abandoning a US Ambassador in a hostile environment amidst terrorist threats that forced EVERY other nation with people in Benghazi to pull them out.

REJECTING OVER 600 pleas for additional security from the on-site US Ambassador AND TAKING AWAY 14 members of the Ambassador's security detail in the midst of these threats, a call for his assassination, AND after 2 previous terror attacks on his compound, the last of which before his murder left a 4-foot hole in his compound wall.

Denying UNDER OATH she knew what happened that night, ONLY to have HER OWN E-MAILS expose she told the Turkish Ambassador after the 13-hour attack that resulted in 4 Americans dead that she KNEW the video had nothing to do with the attack, that this was a terrorist attack; revealed that she told her own daughter that this was a terrorist attack; then told the world and the grieving families it was all about a video...thern ended up calling the grieving families 'Liars'!

Broke the law by not signing the required legal document, upon getting her security clearance required to do the job as Secretary of State, stating she had received her classification training.

Violated Administration rules and the law by not providing copies of ALL State Dept-related documents and e-mails to the State Dept for required recording/holding. The State Dept made it clear Hillary did NOT turn over all documents AS SHE CLAIMED UNDER OATH TO HAVE DONE.

Lied under oath about not using a legal private server, using MULTIPLE electronic devices (not just 'one'), and about NOT sending / receiving classified information. She later changed her statement to cover ass by saying she had not sent/received an e-mails / documents MARKED classified.
-- Since then the FBI has evidence that Hillary ordered subordinates to strip the classification markings off documents and to send them vis UNCLASS means for the sake of 'ease' and 'expedience'. These workers have stated this was not a 1-time thing but was almost 'SOP'! Thatm btw, is a CRIME.

Illegal handling, storage, and attempted destruction of Classified / EXTREMELY classified information capable of seriously damaging our national security.
- The company handling her server, which illegally had different / multiple classifications of information on 1 server (illegal) - did not have the appropriate legal clearance to hold/store/handle the classified information.
- Her lawyer was walking around with a USB drive that contained highly classified information without a security clearance, violating laws regarding handling, transporting, and storage of classified information.

Hillary broke the law by not signing the Federal Document stating she had released / returned all security documents and that she was keeping none of them (according to one report), which is a crime. If she DID sign the document, in light of all the classified State Dept-related information found in her position, she broke the law for keeping all this classified information.
-- Once you quit/step down/leave a job/program dealing with COMPARTMENTALIZED Highly Classified information the business/organization 'READS YOU OUT' of the program. From that point on it is ILLEGAL for you to have access to the information let alone have any of it in your possession!!!! The FBI just confirmed Hillary has / had compartmentalized Highly Classified info in her possession...ILLEGALLY.

(If they wanted to press it and make the case, considering her dealings with Russia and taking money from Islamic countries and others - such as the guy she 'helped' violate US Sanctions on Iran, a case of possible TREASON / REAL 'ESPIONAGE' could me made. (Not that it would stick, but it could be made...)

NOW the FBI is reporting that the information Hillary has / had in her possession was / is SO HIGHLY CLASSIFIED AND DANGEROUS TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY that they CAN'T even REDACT it enough to release ANY of it!

HOLY CR@P! Stick a fork in her. SHE IS DONE! There is NO WAY the DOJ and / or Obama could possibly refuse to call for a Grand Jury / agree to indict her! Doing so to protect Ex-Atty General Eric Holder for multiple counts of Felony Perjury while attempting to keep Obama's 'Fast and Furious' scandal buried was easy to pull off because his criminal acts did not rise to the level of being capable of 'seriously causing damage to our national security'! Hillary, though? She'll be lucky if ALL they charge her with is 'NEGLIGENCE' under the Esionage Act!

The claim is made by the U.S. State Department, the U.S. Diplomatic Security Service, and the U.S. Diplomatic Intelligence service, not by Ms. Clinton alone.

You seem to want to deliberately ignore that fact.

"No classified information passed through the server(s) used by Secretary Clinton", that is what the U.S. State Department said.

The emails were classified until Five (05) Years after the fact, you ignore that as well. At the time the emails were passed through the server(s) used by Ms. Clinton, the emails were not classified.

There is no credible evidence to sustain claims you are making.

The emails in question were NOT classified at the time of transmission to the server(s) used by Ms. Clinton.

What part of NOT CLASSIFIED AT THE TIME OF TRANSMISSION DO YOU FAIL TO COMPREHEND?

No laws could have been violated if the emails were not classified at the time of transmission, you do understand that right?

I will again remind you and other conservatives that Karl Rover while serving as a senior adviser used a private
server provided by the R.N.C. and you Cons did not do jack shit about it. Not even when millions of emails held on those servers were deleted. NOT ONE FUCKING WORD.

Condoleezza Rice has admitted that while she served as National Security Adviser and later as Secretary of State to bush43 that she did in fact use a private server her emails . Not one peep from you Cons on that.

Now, OMMFG...Hillary used a private server.

The Sky Is Falling Henny Penny. The Sky Is Falling.

This is sheer RW hysteria. Suddenly and only when a Democrat uses a private server does use of a private server is it against the law.

Only when a Democrat uses a private server is the use of a private server against the law.

Not when Millions of White House Emails deleted by a Republican Operative is use of a private server against the law.

Only when a Democrat uses a private server.

Not when a Republican National Security Adviser/Secretary of State uses a private server.

Only when a Democrat uses a private server.

There is no clear violation of law. The emails were not classified at the time of transmission.

No classified material was transmitted by Ms. Clinton.

The Sky Is Falling Henny Penny....The Sky Is Falling Henny Penny.

But only when a Democrat does the exact same thing a Republican has done, only then is it wrong.