1. The FBI would be less than what they are supposed to be if they released information about an ongoing investigation.what officially has the FBI said on this, anything?LOL, go tell the FBI, Toots. Tell them it's all a vast right wing conspiracy. And I didn't see your spin on how she did get classified intel.Ok, take a deep breath, and clear your brain of any bias.How Hillary Got Classified Information Onto Her Private Email
Hillary Clinton’s acolytes are racing to dismiss the latest allegations that classified material was cut and pasted into her emails, but this isn’t some mere oversight that can be hand-waved away with a shrug and a sad trombone honk. One doesn’t spill classified material into an unclassified system accidentally or through mere negligence. What these new revelations show—if they are true—is conduct that was conscious, intentional, and felonious as all get-out.
In basic and open-source terms, there is no one big computer system where innocuous, unclassified material shares space with classified material. They are kept on physically separate computer systems: there is the unclassified system, and there are several classified systems. They don’t connect, unless someone chooses to intentionally connect them.
When there is spillage of classified material into unclassified systems, all hell breaks loose. Well, at least it does when it’s not a friend of the administration doing the spilling.
Filching Information from a Secure Facility
Let’s take a look at what it would take to make this happen. Hillary Clinton refused to use a secure system. She wanted to use her own system because she could control it and unlawfully shield it from the prying eyes of the American people and their representatives. Her minions therefore had to deliberately act to circumvent the rules and procedures put in place to prevent people from doing exactly what Clinton wanted done.
First, someone would have to enter a secure facility—usually called a SCIF—to access a classified document on one of the secure systems. These terminals are behind locked doors with access controls and multiple security measures. You have to have the clearance to enter, and you leave your Android, iPad, laptop, and everything else with a chip outside.
These terminals are behind locked doors with access controls and multiple security measures.
Inside, you access the terminal and review the document you are working with. There are myriad warnings that you are viewing classified material. It is no surprise. So, Hillary’s minion would be knowingly examining classified information when he or she decided to break the law and send it to Hillary’s unclassified, private email server.
There are several ways one could move the classified material, each almost too horrific to contemplate to anyone who has worked with sensitive materials. You need to understand that even discussing this gives professionals the shakes. There are a lot of serious things in the national defense world, but nothing is taken more seriously than classified material. People can and do go to jail for screwing up. Well, at least the little people do.
How to Get the Secure Information Out
One way would be to download it to a portable medium, like a thumb drive. Leaving aside that you can’t bring a thumb drive anywhere near a SCIF, the USB ports on the computers are likely deactivated. You would need a technician to somehow work around that, which is in itself horrifying. The easier way would be to print the material out so you could take it somewhere else and either type or scan it into a new file on an unclassified system.
You would need a technician to somehow work around that, which is in itself horrifying.
Of course, printing classified material and taking it out of the SCIF are themselves huge violations even before you get to not only reproducing it but introducing it to an unclassified system. So now the minion has contaminated the unclassified system, but there are still more steps to take and rules to break.
The minion could type text into the email, but that seems unlikely. More likely is that the minion opens the PDF of the classified document, which still retains all the classification markings. The minion then cuts and pastes some or all of the classified material, sans classification header, out of the PDF and into the body of an email, then sends it, unsecure, to Clinton’s unsecure server. This was an unsecure system where, it is important to note, she stored over a thousand documents containing classified material. And those are just the documents she didn’t delete.
Enemy Intelligence Cackles In Glee
In any case, this is not hard to show. You take the text of the suspect emails and compare them to the relevant classified documents, and if they are identical or substantially the same, you have a breach. Let’s be really clear, because Clinton has tried to be anything but: classified material does not somehow become unclassified simply because it is no longer marked due to minions cutting and pasting the text out from between the classification markings. That is not a thing.
Classified material does not somehow become unclassified simply because it is no longer marked.
So, Hillary gets the email, reads it outside of a SCIF, and, unless she is transcendently stupid, sees that it is sensitive material. Now, she did fail the District of Columbia bar examination, so she is no rocket scientist, but it is utterly implausible she did not understand that this material should not ever be on a server that some start-up runs out of a bathroom in Denver.
It’s equally implausible that enemy intelligence agencies also failed to recognize the nature of this material. There’s no reasonable doubt that they pillaged through it in real time.
18 United States Code Section 1924 reads:
(a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.
(b) For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).
(c) In this section, the term ‘classified information of the United States’ means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.
If these new revelations are true, then it appears Hillary Clinton systematically conspired with her minions to transmit classified information from secure systems to her unsecure server. It’s not merely hard to see how she is not guilty of multiple violations of Section 1924. It’s impossible.
Then read this article and all the right wing articles you have read, again.
Are there any FACTS in these articles like the one above about the Hillary case in your articles or are THEY ALL JUST partisan SPECULATIONS and bull crud?
this guy in the right wing rag OPINION PIECE above, on his entire article speculates that someone in the State Department, went in to the top secret server, and took top secret information off of it and then put this top secret information on to the .gov email system which is unclassified....this is ALL OP speculating without thought or anything resembling thought or facts.,,,and the story this guy MADE UP, and Briebart also made a similar story, and Newsmax also made a similar story, has nothing at all to do with the FACTS that are known.
One being that ALL OFFICIALS and ALL research done by officials in her case, have SPECIFICALLY STATED that NONE of the emails Hillary Clinton received or sent, had been classified top secret, at the time she received them.... they even double checked dates..... as example when it was said she had top secret information on 2 emails, that was reported by the IG to the intelligence community, and started the FBI investigation on her server which required the FBI to secure her server in govt protection.... The IG turned over these supposed top secret emails, believing that these emails were Top Secret emails, AT THE TIME they were sent and received....especially one of them....everyone was in an uproar about it....
BUT, when they researched the email which they were certain was on their TOP SECRET SYSTEM, they found out that it was NOT made TOP SECRET and put on their TOP SECRET system until days after the email was received by her... They found out, it was NOT taken from their top secret system because it was not even on their top secret system until days or weeks later, they apparently DATE when things go in to their TS system and become TOP SECRET.
So it turned out that the TOP SECRET info that the intelligence community believed was retrieved from their TOP SECRET server, was actually information that was gathered from PUBLIC SOURCES and NOT their TOP SECRET SYSTEM.
Government officials have stated on the record several times now, that the emails received and sent to Hillary that are top secret now, were NOT CLASSIFIED Top Secret at the time she received them....
Got that? Not just that they were not "marked", but they were NOT TOP SECRET at the time she received this info....
So then your right wing rags went in to a frenzy saying that Hillary and others with top secret clearance should have known better and should have classified this info THEMSELVES.....remember all of those articles in the right wing media harping on that...? At least 20 of those articles have been regurgitated on this site with thread after thread on it....
NOW TAKE A FEW MORE DEEP BREATHS.
The officials are saying that NONE of her emails were Top Secret at the time she received them...WHAT EXACTLY does that mean?
WHAT this means is that NONE of the emails in the 7 NOW top secret email chains that are NOW being classified as TOP SECRET,
drum role.............
WERE NOT ON THE GOVERNMENT'S TOP SECRET SERVER at the time they were sent and received.
Sooooooo, what does this mean in the big picture?
THIS MEANS................drum roll again..............
NO ONE, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE
COULD HAVE TAKEN AND COPIED THEM OFF OF THE govt's TOP SECRET server when the emails were sent to her...
BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT ON THEIR TOP SECRET SERVER at the time the emails were sent....
THERE was NOTHING to "Steal" from the Top Secret Sever system, as the author of this piece of crap article that makes up this entire story that you all bought in to.
So this ENTIRE ARTICLE is just partisan HYPE and BULL CRAP..... and can not be true in any way.
You do get that now don't you?
NO, THEY HAVEN'T SAID A THING.
AND
As far as spin saying how she got top SECRET info since we KNOW what was sent to her was NOT classified top SECRET at the time she received it....My guess is her team gathered it from PUBLIC SOURCES, BUT I truly do not know this....we don't have facts on this yet.
But what we do know, is the govt officially stated, nothing she received was classified or classified top SECRET at the time....
That would confirm your article posted is pure crap and nothing less.
2. It is irrelevant whether the information was marked classified or not. Hillary was Secretary of State, and thus was responsible to identify information as classified and act accordingly. To maintain that she is innocent because the marks weren't there is to admit that she failed miserably in that regard.
The fact that some of the emails will not be released AT ALL because their content is too dangerous bolsters my position. Hillary was either incompetent to handle classified information properly or was competent and chose not to do so. Neither option leads me to desire to give her even greater responsibility.
