DONE - GOING TO JAIL! -- Official: Some Clinton emails 'too damaging' to release'

[Faun]

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The Iraq War was lost when the pictures of Abu Grahib became Public. That put the lie to the fact that we were "liberating" Iraq. Anything after that was just damage control.

Sorry but you are confused. You Moon Bats stay confused most of the time, don't you?

My son was part of the Surge that defeated the Insurgents and later on part of the last combat troops that pulled out of Iraq. When he left the country it was stable and the "blue finger" elected government in charge. He went home and shortly afterwards that shithead Obama got up in front of the troops and declared that "Iraq was a success".

If the war was lost at Abu Grahib then Obama was lying to the troops with his "Mission Accomplished" statement, wasn't he? He was taking credit for bringing the troops when the job wasn't done, wasn't he? If that is the case then he was piss poor Commander in Chief, wasn't he?

The truth of the matter is that the troops did complete the mission. The problem was that Obama and that idiot Clinton as Secretary of State did not do the necessary follow up work by negotiating a Status of Forces Agreement to allow stability for a longer time. The same kind of effort Obama is telling us nowadays we need in Afghanistan by continued troop presence.

This Libtard bullshit about Abu Grahib is ISIS propaganda and you Moon Bat assholes are idiots for repeating it.

Foreign policy is hard work. Obama and his Affirmative Action administration doesn't like to do hard work. Obama likes to play golf and raise money for the filthy ass Democrat Party and that is why our foreign policy is the laughing stock of the world nowadays.

If you really thought the Iraq War was a bad thing thing then you wouldn't do a dumbass thing like vote for The Hillary Bitch that supported the invasion, would you? However, you will vote for her in November if she has a filthy "D" by her name because you really don't have convictions on things like this, do you?

You know what, for all your frothing, the fact is, Bush was the guy who fucked up everything. Your best argument against Obama is that he didn't fix what Bush screwed up fast enough.

This country was doing fine until that shitty 2006 elected Democrat Congress with Barney Queerboy, Nancy Peloski and Harry Reid took over and then things got really screwed up. It got worse after Obama was elected President.

After seven years of Obama we have tremendous debt, increased poverty, poor economic growth, reduced family income and as we saw with the economic news this week the only jobs abvailable in the US nowadays are flipping burgers.


Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success

Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success

Bullshit.

The job was done.

The job was to get the Iraqis to stand up so we could stand down.

We stood them up so we stood down. It's not our fault they wouldn't remain standing years after we left.

 

[Redfish]

I think this sums it up.

Start with the fact that neither Mr. Powell nor Ms. Rice set up a private email server to conduct government business. Mr. Powell did have a personal email account, but he purposely used a State-maintained classified computer system on his desk for classified communications. This may not have been “convenient” for him, to borrow an earlier Clinton explanation for her private server, but Mr. Powell understood the rules. And he understood them even prior to 2005 when State instituted clear rules warning against private email for official business. Mrs. Rice’s aides say she never used any email while at State.

While a few sensitive details may have leeched into a Powell or Rice-aide email account, these would have been accidental. By contrast, Mrs. Clinton intentionally created a private email account, on her own private server, precisely so she could keep those emails away from government public-disclosure rules.

Mr. Linik’s review turned up two messages sent to Mr. Powell’s account that State now deems sensitive (though Mr. Powell disputes that they should be classified). Mr. Linik found 10 that were sent to Ms. Rice’s State Department entourage over her entire tenure. By contrast, State has now deemed that more than 1,600 emails on Mrs. Clinton’s server are confidential—and there is another batch still to be released.

The federal government maintains several levels of classification, ranging from the lowest designations of “sensitive but unclassified” and “confidential” to code-word classifications for the most important secrets. While all such information must be safeguarded, lower-level “sensitive but unclassified” and “confidential” information is sometimes circulated on unclassified government systems. Mr. Powell points out that the two emails sent to him were first circulated on unclassified State Department systems and forwarded to his account by an assistant.

Many of Mrs. Clinton’s 1,600 classified emails also fall into these “sensitive” and “confidential” categories. But at least 22 emails have been identified as highly classified from their creation. This means that their information would have resided at all times on classified government systems until they were sent to Mrs. Clinton and her unclassified, unguarded private server. There is no evidence that anything remotely like that happened under Secretaries Powell or Rice.

This transfer question gets to the heart of Mrs. Clinton’s email negligence. Sen. Dianne Feinstein is defending Mrs. Clinton by claiming there is no evidence that any of these top secrets emails originated with Secretary Clinton. “It has never made sense to me that Secretary Clinton can be held responsible for email exchanges that originated with someone else,” the California Democrat says.

But Mrs. Clinton is responsible because she is the one who created the classification problem by doing official business on her private server. This would never have become an issue if she had followed the rules and used State Department email. That she set up her private email out of a self-serving desire to shield her communications from public disclosure makes her disregard for security a willful act that opens her to criminal liability.​

Clinton’s False Email Equivalence

Take just the first paragraph in this article that is incorrect,

The State maintained gov't email system that the other Secretary of State used, the State.gov email system, this .gov email set up was and still is, an UNCLASSIFIED email system, NOT in any way, shape, or form, the email system or server, for CLASSIFIED information.

So, even if she had this gov't email as Powell and Rice, this was the gvts UNCLASSIFIED, .gov server, and the emails on her server that are now being classified, would not have been more secure, or on the gvts CLASSIFIED server... they would have been on the gvts UNCLASSIFIED system...

The gvts CLASSIFIED system, is a totally separate system, in a separate room, with individual and different user IDs, with no capabilities to even access the internet or even the .gov email system.

Hillary did have access, and gov't protection, for this CLASSIFIED top SECRET system.

So just the first paragraph of this article is incorrect and deceiving....

Leaves readers with the wrong impression from the get go.

Now let me go back to reading the rest of the article....

It is absolutely staggering to me that the Secretary of State of the United States of America thought it was a good idea to use her own private server to conduct state business.

For alumni of U.S. national-security departments and agencies, Hillary Clinton’s email saga is mind-numbing. The publicly available information makes clear she and her aides violated so many elementary security prohibitions that alumni are speechless. They wonder, had they done what she did, how quickly they would have lost their clearances and jobs and how extensive the criminal indictments against them would be. ...

State, like other national-security agencies, has both classified and unclassified ways for its employees, especially the most senior, to communicate. Clinton erred in two separate but often confused ways. First, she used private channels for official government business, and second, she used unclassified channels to send and receive classified information.

Her first error violates basic common sense, familiar to any private business: Business channels should be used for business purposes and personal channels for personal purposes. Obviously, there can be ambiguity between business and personal communications, such as one spouse asking another, "When will you be home for dinner?" But in Clinton's case, there seems to be no ambiguity: She simply did not use government channels for her electronic communications. Her motive was almost certainly to put information she alone deemed personal beyond government access, which is impermissible even for the most junior clerk, let alone the secretary of state. Clinton's private email system by definition undercuts her defense that she complied with government record-keeping requirements because all her emails went to unclassified government accounts (such as her aides'). Without full access to her server, why should we believe Clinton didn't send emails to aides' private email addresses, thereby shielding them entirely from potential government retrieval?

Clinton's second error, using unclassified email systems—whether her private accounts or State's unclassified email system (through her aides)—to transmit material that should have remained in classified channels, is the nub of the email issue. Clinton has asserted that what she did with her private channels was "allowed." Yet she has produced no evidence whatever of who did this "allowing" that was contrary to applicable statutes and express State Department regulations involving official business and information security. ...​

The Email Saga

John Bolton piece dear..............PLEASEEEEEE! He's the criminal imo....and many others.

The .gov system has been hacked THOUSANDS of times, hillary's secure server? ZERO

please tell us exactly how you personally know that her server was not hacked. Do you have some inside information, or are you just spouting bullshit as usual?

 

[bripat9643]

Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton
Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton | Politicus USA

Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

Powell reacted to an NBC News report that the State Department is retroactively classifying his emails by calling for all of his emails to be released.

Powell said, “I wish they would release them, so that a normal, air-breathing mammal would look at them and say, ‘What’s the issue?’ They were unclassified at the time, and they are, in my judgment, still unclassified.”

Clinton Email Scandal Falls Apart As State Dept. Says There Was No Policy Against Private Email | Politicus USA,

The U.S. State Department says, "There was no policy prohibiting the use of the use of a private email account here at the State Department."

Both Former Secretary of State Colin Powell and Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice used private email account during their tenure at the State Department.

That has already been proven to be a lie.

By which blogger?

Politico says it, and so does Colin Powell:

FBI contacts Colin Powell as part of email probe​

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell said the FBI has contacted him about his use of personal email when he was the nation's top diplomat, as a review conducted by the State Department inspector general concluded that Powell and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice both received classified information through private email accounts...The State Department inquiry identified 10 messages sent to Rice's immediate staff that were classified and two sent to Powell, according to Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the ranking member on the House Oversight and Benghazi committees. The emails, Cummings said, appear to have no classification markings, and it is still unclear if the content of the emails was or should have been considered classified when the emails were originally written and sent. In an interview with POLITICO Thursday. Powell vigorously disputed the sensitivity of the information sent to him through personal email, but he acknowledged the law enforcement interest in his email routine. "The FBI has come to us," Powell said. Two FBI agents visited Powell in December for a discussion an aide described as a casual conversation about email practices during his term as secretary from 2001 to 2005...Powell seemed exasperated by State's latest claim. The agency has designated the two messages "Confidential," which is the lowest tier of classification. "Now, 11 or 12 years later, as part of a whole process of reviewing things somebody in the department says, 'Well, they're classified.' My response to that is no they were not," Powell said. " You can say your judgment is they should have been classified but at the time they were not classified.
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No emails were sent to Rice. Some were sent to her staff. Rice never used email.

There was not policy according the State Department.

It was federal government policy. Everyone who has a security clearance knows the rules concerning the handling of classified materials. ​

The emails were classified after the fact.

It was federal government policy. Everyone who has a security clearance knows the rules concerning the handling of classified materials. ​

There was means or mechanism by which Secure/Classified Emails can be passed through, transmitted to or held on an unsecure server.

The FBI says the 22 emails Hillary received on her server were marked "TOP SECRET."​

The emails were not classified at the time.

You already posted that lie above.​

You continue to ignore that.

I ignore lies and spin.​

 

[Redfish]

Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton
Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton | Politicus USA

Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

Powell reacted to an NBC News report that the State Department is retroactively classifying his emails by calling for all of his emails to be released.

Powell said, “I wish they would release them, so that a normal, air-breathing mammal would look at them and say, ‘What’s the issue?’ They were unclassified at the time, and they are, in my judgment, still unclassified.”

Clinton Email Scandal Falls Apart As State Dept. Says There Was No Policy Against Private Email | Politicus USA,

The U.S. State Department says, "There was no policy prohibiting the use of the use of a private email account here at the State Department."

Both Former Secretary of State Colin Powell and Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice used private email account during their tenure at the State Department.

That has already been proven to be a lie.

By which blogger?

Politico says it, and so does Colin Powell:

FBI contacts Colin Powell as part of email probe​

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell said the FBI has contacted him about his use of personal email when he was the nation's top diplomat, as a review conducted by the State Department inspector general concluded that Powell and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice both received classified information through private email accounts...The State Department inquiry identified 10 messages sent to Rice's immediate staff that were classified and two sent to Powell, according to Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the ranking member on the House Oversight and Benghazi committees. The emails, Cummings said, appear to have no classification markings, and it is still unclear if the content of the emails was or should have been considered classified when the emails were originally written and sent. In an interview with POLITICO Thursday. Powell vigorously disputed the sensitivity of the information sent to him through personal email, but he acknowledged the law enforcement interest in his email routine. "The FBI has come to us," Powell said. Two FBI agents visited Powell in December for a discussion an aide described as a casual conversation about email practices during his term as secretary from 2001 to 2005...Powell seemed exasperated by State's latest claim. The agency has designated the two messages "Confidential," which is the lowest tier of classification. "Now, 11 or 12 years later, as part of a whole process of reviewing things somebody in the department says, 'Well, they're classified.' My response to that is no they were not," Powell said. " You can say your judgment is they should have been classified but at the time they were not classified.
​

No emails were sent to Rice. Some were sent to her staff. Rice never used email.

There was not policy according the State Department.

The emails were classified after the fact.

There was means or mechanism by which Secure/Classified Emails can be passed through, transmitted to or held on an unsecure server.

The emails were not classified at the time.

You continue to ignore that.

The data in the e-mails was classified. It doesn't matter if it was marked or not. The content determines the classification, not the markings.

But since you claim they weren't marked, why did Hillary instruct an aide to remove the markings?

hoisted on your own pitard, fool

 

[Siete]

I think this sums it up.

Start with the fact that neither Mr. Powell nor Ms. Rice set up a private email server to conduct government business. Mr. Powell did have a personal email account, but he purposely used a State-maintained classified computer system on his desk for classified communications. This may not have been “convenient” for him, to borrow an earlier Clinton explanation for her private server, but Mr. Powell understood the rules. And he understood them even prior to 2005 when State instituted clear rules warning against private email for official business. Mrs. Rice’s aides say she never used any email while at State.

While a few sensitive details may have leeched into a Powell or Rice-aide email account, these would have been accidental. By contrast, Mrs. Clinton intentionally created a private email account, on her own private server, precisely so she could keep those emails away from government public-disclosure rules.

Mr. Linik’s review turned up two messages sent to Mr. Powell’s account that State now deems sensitive (though Mr. Powell disputes that they should be classified). Mr. Linik found 10 that were sent to Ms. Rice’s State Department entourage over her entire tenure. By contrast, State has now deemed that more than 1,600 emails on Mrs. Clinton’s server are confidential—and there is another batch still to be released.

The federal government maintains several levels of classification, ranging from the lowest designations of “sensitive but unclassified” and “confidential” to code-word classifications for the most important secrets. While all such information must be safeguarded, lower-level “sensitive but unclassified” and “confidential” information is sometimes circulated on unclassified government systems. Mr. Powell points out that the two emails sent to him were first circulated on unclassified State Department systems and forwarded to his account by an assistant.

Many of Mrs. Clinton’s 1,600 classified emails also fall into these “sensitive” and “confidential” categories. But at least 22 emails have been identified as highly classified from their creation. This means that their information would have resided at all times on classified government systems until they were sent to Mrs. Clinton and her unclassified, unguarded private server. There is no evidence that anything remotely like that happened under Secretaries Powell or Rice.

This transfer question gets to the heart of Mrs. Clinton’s email negligence. Sen. Dianne Feinstein is defending Mrs. Clinton by claiming there is no evidence that any of these top secrets emails originated with Secretary Clinton. “It has never made sense to me that Secretary Clinton can be held responsible for email exchanges that originated with someone else,” the California Democrat says.

But Mrs. Clinton is responsible because she is the one who created the classification problem by doing official business on her private server. This would never have become an issue if she had followed the rules and used State Department email. That she set up her private email out of a self-serving desire to shield her communications from public disclosure makes her disregard for security a willful act that opens her to criminal liability.​

Clinton’s False Email Equivalence

Take just the first paragraph in this article that is incorrect,

The State maintained gov't email system that the other Secretary of State used, the State.gov email system, this .gov email set up was and still is, an UNCLASSIFIED email system, NOT in any way, shape, or form, the email system or server, for CLASSIFIED information.

So, even if she had this gov't email as Powell and Rice, this was the gvts UNCLASSIFIED, .gov server, and the emails on her server that are now being classified, would not have been more secure, or on the gvts CLASSIFIED server... they would have been on the gvts UNCLASSIFIED system...

The gvts CLASSIFIED system, is a totally separate system, in a separate room, with individual and different user IDs, with no capabilities to even access the internet or even the .gov email system.

Hillary did have access, and gov't protection, for this CLASSIFIED top SECRET system.

So just the first paragraph of this article is incorrect and deceiving....

Leaves readers with the wrong impression from the get go.

Now let me go back to reading the rest of the article....

It is absolutely staggering to me that the Secretary of State of the United States of America thought it was a good idea to use her own private server to conduct state business.

For alumni of U.S. national-security departments and agencies, Hillary Clinton’s email saga is mind-numbing. The publicly available information makes clear she and her aides violated so many elementary security prohibitions that alumni are speechless. They wonder, had they done what she did, how quickly they would have lost their clearances and jobs and how extensive the criminal indictments against them would be. ...

State, like other national-security agencies, has both classified and unclassified ways for its employees, especially the most senior, to communicate. Clinton erred in two separate but often confused ways. First, she used private channels for official government business, and second, she used unclassified channels to send and receive classified information.

Her first error violates basic common sense, familiar to any private business: Business channels should be used for business purposes and personal channels for personal purposes. Obviously, there can be ambiguity between business and personal communications, such as one spouse asking another, "When will you be home for dinner?" But in Clinton's case, there seems to be no ambiguity: She simply did not use government channels for her electronic communications. Her motive was almost certainly to put information she alone deemed personal beyond government access, which is impermissible even for the most junior clerk, let alone the secretary of state. Clinton's private email system by definition undercuts her defense that she complied with government record-keeping requirements because all her emails went to unclassified government accounts (such as her aides'). Without full access to her server, why should we believe Clinton didn't send emails to aides' private email addresses, thereby shielding them entirely from potential government retrieval?

Clinton's second error, using unclassified email systems—whether her private accounts or State's unclassified email system (through her aides)—to transmit material that should have remained in classified channels, is the nub of the email issue. Clinton has asserted that what she did with her private channels was "allowed." Yet she has produced no evidence whatever of who did this "allowing" that was contrary to applicable statutes and express State Department regulations involving official business and information security. ...​

The Email Saga

John Bolton piece dear..............PLEASEEEEEE! He's the criminal imo....and many others.

The .gov system has been hacked THOUSANDS of times, hillary's secure server? ZERO

please tell us exactly how you personally know that her server was not hacked. Do you have some inside information, or are you just spouting bullshit as usual?

the same way you know it was hacked, spouting BS.

 

[bripat9643]

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The Iraq War was lost when the pictures of Abu Grahib became Public. That put the lie to the fact that we were "liberating" Iraq. Anything after that was just damage control.

Sorry but you are confused. You Moon Bats stay confused most of the time, don't you?

My son was part of the Surge that defeated the Insurgents and later on part of the last combat troops that pulled out of Iraq. When he left the country it was stable and the "blue finger" elected government in charge. He went home and shortly afterwards that shithead Obama got up in front of the troops and declared that "Iraq was a success".

If the war was lost at Abu Grahib then Obama was lying to the troops with his "Mission Accomplished" statement, wasn't he? He was taking credit for bringing the troops when the job wasn't done, wasn't he? If that is the case then he was piss poor Commander in Chief, wasn't he?

The truth of the matter is that the troops did complete the mission. The problem was that Obama and that idiot Clinton as Secretary of State did not do the necessary follow up work by negotiating a Status of Forces Agreement to allow stability for a longer time. The same kind of effort Obama is telling us nowadays we need in Afghanistan by continued troop presence.

This Libtard bullshit about Abu Grahib is ISIS propaganda and you Moon Bat assholes are idiots for repeating it.

Foreign policy is hard work. Obama and his Affirmative Action administration doesn't like to do hard work. Obama likes to play golf and raise money for the filthy ass Democrat Party and that is why our foreign policy is the laughing stock of the world nowadays.

If you really thought the Iraq War was a bad thing thing then you wouldn't do a dumbass thing like vote for The Hillary Bitch that supported the invasion, would you? However, you will vote for her in November if she has a filthy "D" by her name because you really don't have convictions on things like this, do you?

You know what, for all your frothing, the fact is, Bush was the guy who fucked up everything. Your best argument against Obama is that he didn't fix what Bush screwed up fast enough.

This country was doing fine until that shitty 2006 elected Democrat Congress with Barney Queerboy, Nancy Peloski and Harry Reid took over and then things got really screwed up. It got worse after Obama was elected President.

After seven years of Obama we have tremendous debt, increased poverty, poor economic growth, reduced family income and as we saw with the economic news this week the only jobs abvailable in the US nowadays are flipping burgers.


Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success

Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success

Bullshit.

The job was done.

The job was to get the Iraqis to stand up so we could stand down.

We stood them up so we stood down. It's not our fault they wouldn't remain standing years after we left.

Right, the job was to run away so ISIS could move in. Only an Obama dick sucker could say something so clueless.

 

[Faun]

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The Iraq War was lost when the pictures of Abu Grahib became Public. That put the lie to the fact that we were "liberating" Iraq. Anything after that was just damage control.

Sorry but you are confused. You Moon Bats stay confused most of the time, don't you?

My son was part of the Surge that defeated the Insurgents and later on part of the last combat troops that pulled out of Iraq. When he left the country it was stable and the "blue finger" elected government in charge. He went home and shortly afterwards that shithead Obama got up in front of the troops and declared that "Iraq was a success".

If the war was lost at Abu Grahib then Obama was lying to the troops with his "Mission Accomplished" statement, wasn't he? He was taking credit for bringing the troops when the job wasn't done, wasn't he? If that is the case then he was piss poor Commander in Chief, wasn't he?

The truth of the matter is that the troops did complete the mission. The problem was that Obama and that idiot Clinton as Secretary of State did not do the necessary follow up work by negotiating a Status of Forces Agreement to allow stability for a longer time. The same kind of effort Obama is telling us nowadays we need in Afghanistan by continued troop presence.

This Libtard bullshit about Abu Grahib is ISIS propaganda and you Moon Bat assholes are idiots for repeating it.

Foreign policy is hard work. Obama and his Affirmative Action administration doesn't like to do hard work. Obama likes to play golf and raise money for the filthy ass Democrat Party and that is why our foreign policy is the laughing stock of the world nowadays.

If you really thought the Iraq War was a bad thing thing then you wouldn't do a dumbass thing like vote for The Hillary Bitch that supported the invasion, would you? However, you will vote for her in November if she has a filthy "D" by her name because you really don't have convictions on things like this, do you?

You know what, for all your frothing, the fact is, Bush was the guy who fucked up everything. Your best argument against Obama is that he didn't fix what Bush screwed up fast enough.

This country was doing fine until that shitty 2006 elected Democrat Congress with Barney Queerboy, Nancy Peloski and Harry Reid took over and then things got really screwed up. It got worse after Obama was elected President.

After seven years of Obama we have tremendous debt, increased poverty, poor economic growth, reduced family income and as we saw with the economic news this week the only jobs abvailable in the US nowadays are flipping burgers.


Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success

Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success

Bullshit.

The job was done.

The job was to get the Iraqis to stand up so we could stand down.

We stood them up so we stood down. It's not our fault they wouldn't remain standing years after we left.

Right, the job was to run away so ISIS could move in. Only an Obama dick sucker could say something so clueless.

Idiot... Bush signed the agreement with Iraq to withdraw ALL of our forces.

Again, our job was not to stay there forever. It was to position the Iraqis to stand up for themselves.

We did that. It's not our fault they ran from their own responsibilities to defend their own nation years later.

 

[Care4all]

Hillary Clinton lied to the American people once again. She is bad about that, isn't she?

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say | Fox News

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say

In the New Hampshire debate with Senator Bernie Sanders, which aired on MSNBC, Clinton told moderator Chuck Todd that nothing would come of the FBI probe, “I am 100 percent confident. This is a security review that was requested. It is being carried out.”

Not true says Steve Pomerantz, who spent 28 years at the FBI, and rose from field investigative special agent to the rank of assistant director, the third highest position in the Bureau.

“They (the FBI) do not do security reviews,” Pomerantz said. “What they primarily do and what they are clearly doing in this instance is a criminal investigation.”

Pomerantz emphasized to Fox News, “There is no mechanism for her to be briefed and to have information about the conduct, the substance, the direction or the result of any FBI investigation.”

Utter bull crap, once again....from no one "in the know" merely EX agents....with an ax to grind or needing their 15 minutes of fame.

The FBI has given one and only one OFFICIAL statement on this investigation, all else is partisan speculations, innuendo, and fabrications, and they stated specifically that Hillary was NOT the focus of this investigation, her server was, because the IG followed the regulations which stated that the must notify intelligence when their is possible classified top secret material, not in their possession.


A Justice official said the department had received a "referral" on the matter, which the inspector general of the intelligence agencies later acknowledged came from him.

The inspector general, I. Charles McCullough III, said in a separate statement that he had found information that should have been designated as classified in four e-mails out of a "limited sample" of 40 that his agency reviewed. As a result, he said, he made the "security referral," acting under a federal law that requires alerting the FBI to any potential compromises of national security information.

[...]

Officials acknowledged that none of the e-mails reviewed so far contain information that was marked classified when they were sent...
[The Washington Post, 7/24/15]

IG Memo On Classified Information In Emails: "None Of The Emails ... Had Classification Or Dissemination Markings." A memo from the ICIG clearly stated that "none of the emails we reviewed had classification or dissemination markings".



The following is attributable to Spokesperson John Kirby:

"The State Department takes seriously its obligations to protect sensitive information, holding its employees to a high standard of compliance with regulations and procedures.

"The Intelligence Community has recommended that portions of two of the four emails identified by the Intelligence Community's Inspector General should be upgraded to the Top Secret level. Department employees circulated these emails on unclassified systems in 2009 and 2011 and ultimately some were forwarded to Secretary Clinton. They were not marked as classified.

"These emails have not been released to the public. While we work with the Director of National Intelligence to resolve whether, in fact, this material is actually classified, we are taking steps to ensure the information is protected and stored appropriately." [Twitter.com, 8/11/15]

and there is this as well:


Would this issue not have arisen if she used a state.gov email address?

Even if Clinton's emails had been on a government email address and government device, these questions would be raised prior to public release.

While State Department's review of her 55,000 emails brought the issue to the Inspectors Generals' attentions, the four emails were on the unclassified .gov email system. They were not on the separate, closed system used by State Department for handling classified communications. Myths And Facts On Hillary Clinton's Email And Reports Of "Top Secret" Materials

FACT: IG Referral To Justice Department Was Not Criminal, And FBI Isn't Targeting Clinton Herself


Wash. Post: Officials Say Clinton "Is Not A Target" Of FBI Probe. The Washington Post reported that government officials said Clinton is "not a target" of the FBI's investigation:

Hillary Rodham Clinton's attorney has agreed to provide the FBI with the private server that housed her e-mail during her four years as secretary of state, Clinton's presidential campaign said Tuesday.

[...]

The inquiry by the FBI is considered preliminary and appears to be focused on ensuring the proper handling of classified material. Officials have said that Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, is not a target.

The FBI's efforts have included contacting the Denver-based technology firm that helped manage the Clintons' unusual private e-mail system. [The Washington Post, 8/11/15



The FBI has not officially stated anything else on the investigation, just right wing HACKS pushing innuendo and making crap up....

These rags are CREATING their own News and NOT reporting the News, the FACTS.

OK. nothing happened ever. No worries. Shut it down. Chelsa for VP. Git er' done.


State Dept. Records Show John Kerry Sent Hillary A ‘SECRET’ Email From His iPad

Clinton forwarded the email to an aide, instructing her to “Pls print” the document.

The redactions in the email are listed under the Freedom of Information Act exemptions 1.4(b) and 1.4(d), which are categories reserved for information gleaned from foreign government sources.


The kicker is that Kerry sent Clinton the information from his iPad, a communications device that would have been much more vulnerable to hackers than an encrypted communications system.

the information was NOT CLASSIFIED at the time Kerry sent it...

but yes, they, the gvt, does need to do something about EVERYONE's loose as a goose attitudes towards this kind of material and set up some sort of Classified email system in the State Department for them to work off of instead of this UNCLASSIFIED, State.gov system....the only one they have to communicate their daily duties on.

 

[bripat9643]

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The Iraq War was lost when the pictures of Abu Grahib became Public. That put the lie to the fact that we were "liberating" Iraq. Anything after that was just damage control.

Sorry but you are confused. You Moon Bats stay confused most of the time, don't you?

My son was part of the Surge that defeated the Insurgents and later on part of the last combat troops that pulled out of Iraq. When he left the country it was stable and the "blue finger" elected government in charge. He went home and shortly afterwards that shithead Obama got up in front of the troops and declared that "Iraq was a success".

If the war was lost at Abu Grahib then Obama was lying to the troops with his "Mission Accomplished" statement, wasn't he? He was taking credit for bringing the troops when the job wasn't done, wasn't he? If that is the case then he was piss poor Commander in Chief, wasn't he?

The truth of the matter is that the troops did complete the mission. The problem was that Obama and that idiot Clinton as Secretary of State did not do the necessary follow up work by negotiating a Status of Forces Agreement to allow stability for a longer time. The same kind of effort Obama is telling us nowadays we need in Afghanistan by continued troop presence.

This Libtard bullshit about Abu Grahib is ISIS propaganda and you Moon Bat assholes are idiots for repeating it.

Foreign policy is hard work. Obama and his Affirmative Action administration doesn't like to do hard work. Obama likes to play golf and raise money for the filthy ass Democrat Party and that is why our foreign policy is the laughing stock of the world nowadays.

If you really thought the Iraq War was a bad thing thing then you wouldn't do a dumbass thing like vote for The Hillary Bitch that supported the invasion, would you? However, you will vote for her in November if she has a filthy "D" by her name because you really don't have convictions on things like this, do you?

You know what, for all your frothing, the fact is, Bush was the guy who fucked up everything. Your best argument against Obama is that he didn't fix what Bush screwed up fast enough.

This country was doing fine until that shitty 2006 elected Democrat Congress with Barney Queerboy, Nancy Peloski and Harry Reid took over and then things got really screwed up. It got worse after Obama was elected President.

After seven years of Obama we have tremendous debt, increased poverty, poor economic growth, reduced family income and as we saw with the economic news this week the only jobs abvailable in the US nowadays are flipping burgers.


Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success

Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success

Bullshit.

The job was done.

The job was to get the Iraqis to stand up so we could stand down.

We stood them up so we stood down. It's not our fault they wouldn't remain standing years after we left.

Right, the job was to run away so ISIS could move in. Only an Obama dick sucker could say something so clueless.

Idiot... Bush signed the agreement with Iraq to withdraw ALL of our forces.

Again, our job was not to stay there forever. It was to position the Iraqis to stand up for themselves.

We did that. It's not our fault they ran from their own responsibilities to defend their own nation years later.

Obviously, Obama didn't position them to stand up for themselves. If he did, then why does ISIS control half the country?

 

[Redfish]

I think this sums it up.

Start with the fact that neither Mr. Powell nor Ms. Rice set up a private email server to conduct government business. Mr. Powell did have a personal email account, but he purposely used a State-maintained classified computer system on his desk for classified communications. This may not have been “convenient” for him, to borrow an earlier Clinton explanation for her private server, but Mr. Powell understood the rules. And he understood them even prior to 2005 when State instituted clear rules warning against private email for official business. Mrs. Rice’s aides say she never used any email while at State.

While a few sensitive details may have leeched into a Powell or Rice-aide email account, these would have been accidental. By contrast, Mrs. Clinton intentionally created a private email account, on her own private server, precisely so she could keep those emails away from government public-disclosure rules.

Mr. Linik’s review turned up two messages sent to Mr. Powell’s account that State now deems sensitive (though Mr. Powell disputes that they should be classified). Mr. Linik found 10 that were sent to Ms. Rice’s State Department entourage over her entire tenure. By contrast, State has now deemed that more than 1,600 emails on Mrs. Clinton’s server are confidential—and there is another batch still to be released.

The federal government maintains several levels of classification, ranging from the lowest designations of “sensitive but unclassified” and “confidential” to code-word classifications for the most important secrets. While all such information must be safeguarded, lower-level “sensitive but unclassified” and “confidential” information is sometimes circulated on unclassified government systems. Mr. Powell points out that the two emails sent to him were first circulated on unclassified State Department systems and forwarded to his account by an assistant.

Many of Mrs. Clinton’s 1,600 classified emails also fall into these “sensitive” and “confidential” categories. But at least 22 emails have been identified as highly classified from their creation. This means that their information would have resided at all times on classified government systems until they were sent to Mrs. Clinton and her unclassified, unguarded private server. There is no evidence that anything remotely like that happened under Secretaries Powell or Rice.

This transfer question gets to the heart of Mrs. Clinton’s email negligence. Sen. Dianne Feinstein is defending Mrs. Clinton by claiming there is no evidence that any of these top secrets emails originated with Secretary Clinton. “It has never made sense to me that Secretary Clinton can be held responsible for email exchanges that originated with someone else,” the California Democrat says.

But Mrs. Clinton is responsible because she is the one who created the classification problem by doing official business on her private server. This would never have become an issue if she had followed the rules and used State Department email. That she set up her private email out of a self-serving desire to shield her communications from public disclosure makes her disregard for security a willful act that opens her to criminal liability.​

Clinton’s False Email Equivalence

Take just the first paragraph in this article that is incorrect,

The State maintained gov't email system that the other Secretary of State used, the State.gov email system, this .gov email set up was and still is, an UNCLASSIFIED email system, NOT in any way, shape, or form, the email system or server, for CLASSIFIED information.

So, even if she had this gov't email as Powell and Rice, this was the gvts UNCLASSIFIED, .gov server, and the emails on her server that are now being classified, would not have been more secure, or on the gvts CLASSIFIED server... they would have been on the gvts UNCLASSIFIED system...

The gvts CLASSIFIED system, is a totally separate system, in a separate room, with individual and different user IDs, with no capabilities to even access the internet or even the .gov email system.

Hillary did have access, and gov't protection, for this CLASSIFIED top SECRET system.

So just the first paragraph of this article is incorrect and deceiving....

Leaves readers with the wrong impression from the get go.

Now let me go back to reading the rest of the article....

It is absolutely staggering to me that the Secretary of State of the United States of America thought it was a good idea to use her own private server to conduct state business.

For alumni of U.S. national-security departments and agencies, Hillary Clinton’s email saga is mind-numbing. The publicly available information makes clear she and her aides violated so many elementary security prohibitions that alumni are speechless. They wonder, had they done what she did, how quickly they would have lost their clearances and jobs and how extensive the criminal indictments against them would be. ...

State, like other national-security agencies, has both classified and unclassified ways for its employees, especially the most senior, to communicate. Clinton erred in two separate but often confused ways. First, she used private channels for official government business, and second, she used unclassified channels to send and receive classified information.

Her first error violates basic common sense, familiar to any private business: Business channels should be used for business purposes and personal channels for personal purposes. Obviously, there can be ambiguity between business and personal communications, such as one spouse asking another, "When will you be home for dinner?" But in Clinton's case, there seems to be no ambiguity: She simply did not use government channels for her electronic communications. Her motive was almost certainly to put information she alone deemed personal beyond government access, which is impermissible even for the most junior clerk, let alone the secretary of state. Clinton's private email system by definition undercuts her defense that she complied with government record-keeping requirements because all her emails went to unclassified government accounts (such as her aides'). Without full access to her server, why should we believe Clinton didn't send emails to aides' private email addresses, thereby shielding them entirely from potential government retrieval?

Clinton's second error, using unclassified email systems—whether her private accounts or State's unclassified email system (through her aides)—to transmit material that should have remained in classified channels, is the nub of the email issue. Clinton has asserted that what she did with her private channels was "allowed." Yet she has produced no evidence whatever of who did this "allowing" that was contrary to applicable statutes and express State Department regulations involving official business and information security. ...​

The Email Saga

John Bolton piece dear..............PLEASEEEEEE! He's the criminal imo....and many others.

The .gov system has been hacked THOUSANDS of times, hillary's secure server? ZERO

please tell us exactly how you personally know that her server was not hacked. Do you have some inside information, or are you just spouting bullshit as usual?

the same way you know it was hacked, spouting BS.

I never said it was hacked. But you clowns are absolutely sure it wasn't. Since it was not secure and because she was SecState, it is very likely that the Russians and Chinese have every one of those emails. Likely, not positive. But if they do, they could blackmail her for the rest of her life. Are you willing to take that chance?

 

[bripat9643]

Hillary Clinton lied to the American people once again. She is bad about that, isn't she?

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say | Fox News

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say

In the New Hampshire debate with Senator Bernie Sanders, which aired on MSNBC, Clinton told moderator Chuck Todd that nothing would come of the FBI probe, “I am 100 percent confident. This is a security review that was requested. It is being carried out.”

Not true says Steve Pomerantz, who spent 28 years at the FBI, and rose from field investigative special agent to the rank of assistant director, the third highest position in the Bureau.

“They (the FBI) do not do security reviews,” Pomerantz said. “What they primarily do and what they are clearly doing in this instance is a criminal investigation.”

Pomerantz emphasized to Fox News, “There is no mechanism for her to be briefed and to have information about the conduct, the substance, the direction or the result of any FBI investigation.”

Utter bull crap, once again....from no one "in the know" merely EX agents....with an ax to grind or needing their 15 minutes of fame.

The FBI has given one and only one OFFICIAL statement on this investigation, all else is partisan speculations, innuendo, and fabrications, and they stated specifically that Hillary was NOT the focus of this investigation, her server was, because the IG followed the regulations which stated that the must notify intelligence when their is possible classified top secret material, not in their possession.


A Justice official said the department had received a "referral" on the matter, which the inspector general of the intelligence agencies later acknowledged came from him.

The inspector general, I. Charles McCullough III, said in a separate statement that he had found information that should have been designated as classified in four e-mails out of a "limited sample" of 40 that his agency reviewed. As a result, he said, he made the "security referral," acting under a federal law that requires alerting the FBI to any potential compromises of national security information.

[...]

Officials acknowledged that none of the e-mails reviewed so far contain information that was marked classified when they were sent...
[The Washington Post, 7/24/15]

IG Memo On Classified Information In Emails: "None Of The Emails ... Had Classification Or Dissemination Markings." A memo from the ICIG clearly stated that "none of the emails we reviewed had classification or dissemination markings".



The following is attributable to Spokesperson John Kirby:

"The State Department takes seriously its obligations to protect sensitive information, holding its employees to a high standard of compliance with regulations and procedures.

"The Intelligence Community has recommended that portions of two of the four emails identified by the Intelligence Community's Inspector General should be upgraded to the Top Secret level. Department employees circulated these emails on unclassified systems in 2009 and 2011 and ultimately some were forwarded to Secretary Clinton. They were not marked as classified.

"These emails have not been released to the public. While we work with the Director of National Intelligence to resolve whether, in fact, this material is actually classified, we are taking steps to ensure the information is protected and stored appropriately." [Twitter.com, 8/11/15]

and there is this as well:


Would this issue not have arisen if she used a state.gov email address?

Even if Clinton's emails had been on a government email address and government device, these questions would be raised prior to public release.

While State Department's review of her 55,000 emails brought the issue to the Inspectors Generals' attentions, the four emails were on the unclassified .gov email system. They were not on the separate, closed system used by State Department for handling classified communications. Myths And Facts On Hillary Clinton's Email And Reports Of "Top Secret" Materials

FACT: IG Referral To Justice Department Was Not Criminal, And FBI Isn't Targeting Clinton Herself


Wash. Post: Officials Say Clinton "Is Not A Target" Of FBI Probe. The Washington Post reported that government officials said Clinton is "not a target" of the FBI's investigation:

Hillary Rodham Clinton's attorney has agreed to provide the FBI with the private server that housed her e-mail during her four years as secretary of state, Clinton's presidential campaign said Tuesday.

[...]

The inquiry by the FBI is considered preliminary and appears to be focused on ensuring the proper handling of classified material. Officials have said that Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, is not a target.

The FBI's efforts have included contacting the Denver-based technology firm that helped manage the Clintons' unusual private e-mail system. [The Washington Post, 8/11/15



The FBI has not officially stated anything else on the investigation, just right wing HACKS pushing innuendo and making crap up....

These rags are CREATING their own News and NOT reporting the News, the FACTS.

OK. nothing happened ever. No worries. Shut it down. Chelsa for VP. Git er' done.


State Dept. Records Show John Kerry Sent Hillary A ‘SECRET’ Email From His iPad

Clinton forwarded the email to an aide, instructing her to “Pls print” the document.

The redactions in the email are listed under the Freedom of Information Act exemptions 1.4(b) and 1.4(d), which are categories reserved for information gleaned from foreign government sources.


The kicker is that Kerry sent Clinton the information from his iPad, a communications device that would have been much more vulnerable to hackers than an encrypted communications system.

the information was NOT CLASSIFIED at the time Kerry sent it...

but yes, they, the gvt, does need to do something about EVERYONE's loose as a goose attitudes towards this kind of material and set up some sort of Classified email system in the State Department for them to work off of instead of this UNCLASSIFIED, State.gov system....the only one they have to communicate their daily duties on.

Hillary is the only one with the "loose as a goose" attitude about security.

 

[Redfish]

Hillary Clinton lied to the American people once again. She is bad about that, isn't she?

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say | Fox News

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say

In the New Hampshire debate with Senator Bernie Sanders, which aired on MSNBC, Clinton told moderator Chuck Todd that nothing would come of the FBI probe, “I am 100 percent confident. This is a security review that was requested. It is being carried out.”

Not true says Steve Pomerantz, who spent 28 years at the FBI, and rose from field investigative special agent to the rank of assistant director, the third highest position in the Bureau.

“They (the FBI) do not do security reviews,” Pomerantz said. “What they primarily do and what they are clearly doing in this instance is a criminal investigation.”

Pomerantz emphasized to Fox News, “There is no mechanism for her to be briefed and to have information about the conduct, the substance, the direction or the result of any FBI investigation.”

Utter bull crap, once again....from no one "in the know" merely EX agents....with an ax to grind or needing their 15 minutes of fame.

The FBI has given one and only one OFFICIAL statement on this investigation, all else is partisan speculations, innuendo, and fabrications, and they stated specifically that Hillary was NOT the focus of this investigation, her server was, because the IG followed the regulations which stated that the must notify intelligence when their is possible classified top secret material, not in their possession.


A Justice official said the department had received a "referral" on the matter, which the inspector general of the intelligence agencies later acknowledged came from him.

The inspector general, I. Charles McCullough III, said in a separate statement that he had found information that should have been designated as classified in four e-mails out of a "limited sample" of 40 that his agency reviewed. As a result, he said, he made the "security referral," acting under a federal law that requires alerting the FBI to any potential compromises of national security information.

[...]

Officials acknowledged that none of the e-mails reviewed so far contain information that was marked classified when they were sent...
[The Washington Post, 7/24/15]

IG Memo On Classified Information In Emails: "None Of The Emails ... Had Classification Or Dissemination Markings." A memo from the ICIG clearly stated that "none of the emails we reviewed had classification or dissemination markings".



The following is attributable to Spokesperson John Kirby:

"The State Department takes seriously its obligations to protect sensitive information, holding its employees to a high standard of compliance with regulations and procedures.

"The Intelligence Community has recommended that portions of two of the four emails identified by the Intelligence Community's Inspector General should be upgraded to the Top Secret level. Department employees circulated these emails on unclassified systems in 2009 and 2011 and ultimately some were forwarded to Secretary Clinton. They were not marked as classified.

"These emails have not been released to the public. While we work with the Director of National Intelligence to resolve whether, in fact, this material is actually classified, we are taking steps to ensure the information is protected and stored appropriately." [Twitter.com, 8/11/15]

and there is this as well:


Would this issue not have arisen if she used a state.gov email address?

Even if Clinton's emails had been on a government email address and government device, these questions would be raised prior to public release.

While State Department's review of her 55,000 emails brought the issue to the Inspectors Generals' attentions, the four emails were on the unclassified .gov email system. They were not on the separate, closed system used by State Department for handling classified communications. Myths And Facts On Hillary Clinton's Email And Reports Of "Top Secret" Materials

FACT: IG Referral To Justice Department Was Not Criminal, And FBI Isn't Targeting Clinton Herself


Wash. Post: Officials Say Clinton "Is Not A Target" Of FBI Probe. The Washington Post reported that government officials said Clinton is "not a target" of the FBI's investigation:

Hillary Rodham Clinton's attorney has agreed to provide the FBI with the private server that housed her e-mail during her four years as secretary of state, Clinton's presidential campaign said Tuesday.

[...]

The inquiry by the FBI is considered preliminary and appears to be focused on ensuring the proper handling of classified material. Officials have said that Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, is not a target.

The FBI's efforts have included contacting the Denver-based technology firm that helped manage the Clintons' unusual private e-mail system. [The Washington Post, 8/11/15



The FBI has not officially stated anything else on the investigation, just right wing HACKS pushing innuendo and making crap up....

These rags are CREATING their own News and NOT reporting the News, the FACTS.

OK. nothing happened ever. No worries. Shut it down. Chelsa for VP. Git er' done.


State Dept. Records Show John Kerry Sent Hillary A ‘SECRET’ Email From His iPad

Clinton forwarded the email to an aide, instructing her to “Pls print” the document.

The redactions in the email are listed under the Freedom of Information Act exemptions 1.4(b) and 1.4(d), which are categories reserved for information gleaned from foreign government sources.


The kicker is that Kerry sent Clinton the information from his iPad, a communications device that would have been much more vulnerable to hackers than an encrypted communications system.

the information was NOT CLASSIFIED at the time Kerry sent it...

but yes, they, the gvt, does need to do something about EVERYONE's loose as a goose attitudes towards this kind of material and set up some sort of Classified email system in the State Department for them to work off of instead of this UNCLASSIFIED, State.gov system....the only one they have to communicate their daily duties on.

Bullshit, not marked does not equal not classified. The content makes it classified, not the markings. If she received unmarked classified data, it was her duty as a holder of a security clearance to add markings to it.

You silly fool, you have no idea about the laws regarding classified data. I had top secret and SAP clearances, I know the rules. If I did what she did, I would be in jail today.

 

[Care4all]

Hillary Clinton lied to the American people once again. She is bad about that, isn't she?

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say | Fox News

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say

In the New Hampshire debate with Senator Bernie Sanders, which aired on MSNBC, Clinton told moderator Chuck Todd that nothing would come of the FBI probe, “I am 100 percent confident. This is a security review that was requested. It is being carried out.”

Not true says Steve Pomerantz, who spent 28 years at the FBI, and rose from field investigative special agent to the rank of assistant director, the third highest position in the Bureau.

“They (the FBI) do not do security reviews,” Pomerantz said. “What they primarily do and what they are clearly doing in this instance is a criminal investigation.”

Pomerantz emphasized to Fox News, “There is no mechanism for her to be briefed and to have information about the conduct, the substance, the direction or the result of any FBI investigation.”

Utter bull crap, once again....from no one "in the know" merely EX agents....with an ax to grind or needing their 15 minutes of fame.

The FBI has given one and only one OFFICIAL statement on this investigation, all else is partisan speculations, innuendo, and fabrications, and they stated specifically that Hillary was NOT the focus of this investigation, her server was, because the IG followed the regulations which stated that the must notify intelligence when their is possible classified top secret material, not in their possession.


A Justice official said the department had received a "referral" on the matter, which the inspector general of the intelligence agencies later acknowledged came from him.

The inspector general, I. Charles McCullough III, said in a separate statement that he had found information that should have been designated as classified in four e-mails out of a "limited sample" of 40 that his agency reviewed. As a result, he said, he made the "security referral," acting under a federal law that requires alerting the FBI to any potential compromises of national security information.

[...]

Officials acknowledged that none of the e-mails reviewed so far contain information that was marked classified when they were sent...
[The Washington Post, 7/24/15]

IG Memo On Classified Information In Emails: "None Of The Emails ... Had Classification Or Dissemination Markings." A memo from the ICIG clearly stated that "none of the emails we reviewed had classification or dissemination markings".



The following is attributable to Spokesperson John Kirby:

"The State Department takes seriously its obligations to protect sensitive information, holding its employees to a high standard of compliance with regulations and procedures.

"The Intelligence Community has recommended that portions of two of the four emails identified by the Intelligence Community's Inspector General should be upgraded to the Top Secret level. Department employees circulated these emails on unclassified systems in 2009 and 2011 and ultimately some were forwarded to Secretary Clinton. They were not marked as classified.

"These emails have not been released to the public. While we work with the Director of National Intelligence to resolve whether, in fact, this material is actually classified, we are taking steps to ensure the information is protected and stored appropriately." [Twitter.com, 8/11/15]

and there is this as well:


Would this issue not have arisen if she used a state.gov email address?

Even if Clinton's emails had been on a government email address and government device, these questions would be raised prior to public release.

While State Department's review of her 55,000 emails brought the issue to the Inspectors Generals' attentions, the four emails were on the unclassified .gov email system. They were not on the separate, closed system used by State Department for handling classified communications. Myths And Facts On Hillary Clinton's Email And Reports Of "Top Secret" Materials

FACT: IG Referral To Justice Department Was Not Criminal, And FBI Isn't Targeting Clinton Herself


Wash. Post: Officials Say Clinton "Is Not A Target" Of FBI Probe. The Washington Post reported that government officials said Clinton is "not a target" of the FBI's investigation:

Hillary Rodham Clinton's attorney has agreed to provide the FBI with the private server that housed her e-mail during her four years as secretary of state, Clinton's presidential campaign said Tuesday.

[...]

The inquiry by the FBI is considered preliminary and appears to be focused on ensuring the proper handling of classified material. Officials have said that Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, is not a target.

The FBI's efforts have included contacting the Denver-based technology firm that helped manage the Clintons' unusual private e-mail system. [The Washington Post, 8/11/15



The FBI has not officially stated anything else on the investigation, just right wing HACKS pushing innuendo and making crap up....

These rags are CREATING their own News and NOT reporting the News, the FACTS.

OK. nothing happened ever. No worries. Shut it down. Chelsa for VP. Git er' done.


State Dept. Records Show John Kerry Sent Hillary A ‘SECRET’ Email From His iPad

Clinton forwarded the email to an aide, instructing her to “Pls print” the document.

The redactions in the email are listed under the Freedom of Information Act exemptions 1.4(b) and 1.4(d), which are categories reserved for information gleaned from foreign government sources.


The kicker is that Kerry sent Clinton the information from his iPad, a communications device that would have been much more vulnerable to hackers than an encrypted communications system.

the information was NOT CLASSIFIED at the time Kerry sent it...

but yes, they, the gvt, does need to do something about EVERYONE's loose as a goose attitudes towards this kind of material and set up some sort of Classified email system in the State Department for them to work off of instead of this UNCLASSIFIED, State.gov system....the only one they have to communicate their daily duties on.

Hillary is the only one with the "loose as a goose" attitude about security.

the .gov unclassified email system that you wanted her to use as her official email, is hacked THOUSANDS of times a year. Try again.

 

[Toro]

I think this sums it up.

Start with the fact that neither Mr. Powell nor Ms. Rice set up a private email server to conduct government business. Mr. Powell did have a personal email account, but he purposely used a State-maintained classified computer system on his desk for classified communications. This may not have been “convenient” for him, to borrow an earlier Clinton explanation for her private server, but Mr. Powell understood the rules. And he understood them even prior to 2005 when State instituted clear rules warning against private email for official business. Mrs. Rice’s aides say she never used any email while at State.

While a few sensitive details may have leeched into a Powell or Rice-aide email account, these would have been accidental. By contrast, Mrs. Clinton intentionally created a private email account, on her own private server, precisely so she could keep those emails away from government public-disclosure rules.

Mr. Linik’s review turned up two messages sent to Mr. Powell’s account that State now deems sensitive (though Mr. Powell disputes that they should be classified). Mr. Linik found 10 that were sent to Ms. Rice’s State Department entourage over her entire tenure. By contrast, State has now deemed that more than 1,600 emails on Mrs. Clinton’s server are confidential—and there is another batch still to be released.

The federal government maintains several levels of classification, ranging from the lowest designations of “sensitive but unclassified” and “confidential” to code-word classifications for the most important secrets. While all such information must be safeguarded, lower-level “sensitive but unclassified” and “confidential” information is sometimes circulated on unclassified government systems. Mr. Powell points out that the two emails sent to him were first circulated on unclassified State Department systems and forwarded to his account by an assistant.

Many of Mrs. Clinton’s 1,600 classified emails also fall into these “sensitive” and “confidential” categories. But at least 22 emails have been identified as highly classified from their creation. This means that their information would have resided at all times on classified government systems until they were sent to Mrs. Clinton and her unclassified, unguarded private server. There is no evidence that anything remotely like that happened under Secretaries Powell or Rice.

This transfer question gets to the heart of Mrs. Clinton’s email negligence. Sen. Dianne Feinstein is defending Mrs. Clinton by claiming there is no evidence that any of these top secrets emails originated with Secretary Clinton. “It has never made sense to me that Secretary Clinton can be held responsible for email exchanges that originated with someone else,” the California Democrat says.

But Mrs. Clinton is responsible because she is the one who created the classification problem by doing official business on her private server. This would never have become an issue if she had followed the rules and used State Department email. That she set up her private email out of a self-serving desire to shield her communications from public disclosure makes her disregard for security a willful act that opens her to criminal liability.​

Clinton’s False Email Equivalence

Take just the first paragraph in this article that is incorrect,

The State maintained gov't email system that the other Secretary of State used, the State.gov email system, this .gov email set up was and still is, an UNCLASSIFIED email system, NOT in any way, shape, or form, the email system or server, for CLASSIFIED information.

So, even if she had this gov't email as Powell and Rice, this was the gvts UNCLASSIFIED, .gov server, and the emails on her server that are now being classified, would not have been more secure, or on the gvts CLASSIFIED server... they would have been on the gvts UNCLASSIFIED system...

The gvts CLASSIFIED system, is a totally separate system, in a separate room, with individual and different user IDs, with no capabilities to even access the internet or even the .gov email system.

Hillary did have access, and gov't protection, for this CLASSIFIED top SECRET system.

So just the first paragraph of this article is incorrect and deceiving....

Leaves readers with the wrong impression from the get go.

Now let me go back to reading the rest of the article....

It is absolutely staggering to me that the Secretary of State of the United States of America thought it was a good idea to use her own private server to conduct state business.

For alumni of U.S. national-security departments and agencies, Hillary Clinton’s email saga is mind-numbing. The publicly available information makes clear she and her aides violated so many elementary security prohibitions that alumni are speechless. They wonder, had they done what she did, how quickly they would have lost their clearances and jobs and how extensive the criminal indictments against them would be. ...

State, like other national-security agencies, has both classified and unclassified ways for its employees, especially the most senior, to communicate. Clinton erred in two separate but often confused ways. First, she used private channels for official government business, and second, she used unclassified channels to send and receive classified information.

Her first error violates basic common sense, familiar to any private business: Business channels should be used for business purposes and personal channels for personal purposes. Obviously, there can be ambiguity between business and personal communications, such as one spouse asking another, "When will you be home for dinner?" But in Clinton's case, there seems to be no ambiguity: She simply did not use government channels for her electronic communications. Her motive was almost certainly to put information she alone deemed personal beyond government access, which is impermissible even for the most junior clerk, let alone the secretary of state. Clinton's private email system by definition undercuts her defense that she complied with government record-keeping requirements because all her emails went to unclassified government accounts (such as her aides'). Without full access to her server, why should we believe Clinton didn't send emails to aides' private email addresses, thereby shielding them entirely from potential government retrieval?

Clinton's second error, using unclassified email systems—whether her private accounts or State's unclassified email system (through her aides)—to transmit material that should have remained in classified channels, is the nub of the email issue. Clinton has asserted that what she did with her private channels was "allowed." Yet she has produced no evidence whatever of who did this "allowing" that was contrary to applicable statutes and express State Department regulations involving official business and information security. ...​

The Email Saga

John Bolton piece dear..............PLEASEEEEEE! He's the criminal imo....and many others.

The .gov system has been hacked THOUSANDS of times, hillary's secure server? ZERO

What is Bolton wrong about?

Who else uses a private server with classified information?

How do you know Clinton's server hasn't been hacked?

 

[Faun]

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The Iraq War was lost when the pictures of Abu Grahib became Public. That put the lie to the fact that we were "liberating" Iraq. Anything after that was just damage control.

Sorry but you are confused. You Moon Bats stay confused most of the time, don't you?

My son was part of the Surge that defeated the Insurgents and later on part of the last combat troops that pulled out of Iraq. When he left the country it was stable and the "blue finger" elected government in charge. He went home and shortly afterwards that shithead Obama got up in front of the troops and declared that "Iraq was a success".

If the war was lost at Abu Grahib then Obama was lying to the troops with his "Mission Accomplished" statement, wasn't he? He was taking credit for bringing the troops when the job wasn't done, wasn't he? If that is the case then he was piss poor Commander in Chief, wasn't he?

The truth of the matter is that the troops did complete the mission. The problem was that Obama and that idiot Clinton as Secretary of State did not do the necessary follow up work by negotiating a Status of Forces Agreement to allow stability for a longer time. The same kind of effort Obama is telling us nowadays we need in Afghanistan by continued troop presence.

This Libtard bullshit about Abu Grahib is ISIS propaganda and you Moon Bat assholes are idiots for repeating it.

Foreign policy is hard work. Obama and his Affirmative Action administration doesn't like to do hard work. Obama likes to play golf and raise money for the filthy ass Democrat Party and that is why our foreign policy is the laughing stock of the world nowadays.

If you really thought the Iraq War was a bad thing thing then you wouldn't do a dumbass thing like vote for The Hillary Bitch that supported the invasion, would you? However, you will vote for her in November if she has a filthy "D" by her name because you really don't have convictions on things like this, do you?

You know what, for all your frothing, the fact is, Bush was the guy who fucked up everything. Your best argument against Obama is that he didn't fix what Bush screwed up fast enough.

This country was doing fine until that shitty 2006 elected Democrat Congress with Barney Queerboy, Nancy Peloski and Harry Reid took over and then things got really screwed up. It got worse after Obama was elected President.

After seven years of Obama we have tremendous debt, increased poverty, poor economic growth, reduced family income and as we saw with the economic news this week the only jobs abvailable in the US nowadays are flipping burgers.


Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success

Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success

Bullshit.

The job was done.

The job was to get the Iraqis to stand up so we could stand down.

We stood them up so we stood down. It's not our fault they wouldn't remain standing years after we left.

Right, the job was to run away so ISIS could move in. Only an Obama dick sucker could say something so clueless.

Idiot... Bush signed the agreement with Iraq to withdraw ALL of our forces.

Again, our job was not to stay there forever. It was to position the Iraqis to stand up for themselves.

We did that. It's not our fault they ran from their own responsibilities to defend their own nation years later.

Obviously, Obama didn't position them to stand up for themselves. If he did, then why does ISIS control half the country?

Before Bush left office, he thought they were sufficiently positioned to stand up for themselves. He agreed at that time we could, and should, remove ALL of our troops from Iraq. Obama agreed and Iraq even agreed. There was no need at that point for our troops to remain. We did our job of standing up Iraq.

Again, it's not our fault Iraq chose to not defend their own nation years after we stood them up. It's quite revealing how you think Iraq bears zero responsibility in fighting for their own country.

 

[bripat9643]

Hillary Clinton lied to the American people once again. She is bad about that, isn't she?

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say | Fox News

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say

In the New Hampshire debate with Senator Bernie Sanders, which aired on MSNBC, Clinton told moderator Chuck Todd that nothing would come of the FBI probe, “I am 100 percent confident. This is a security review that was requested. It is being carried out.”

Not true says Steve Pomerantz, who spent 28 years at the FBI, and rose from field investigative special agent to the rank of assistant director, the third highest position in the Bureau.

“They (the FBI) do not do security reviews,” Pomerantz said. “What they primarily do and what they are clearly doing in this instance is a criminal investigation.”

Pomerantz emphasized to Fox News, “There is no mechanism for her to be briefed and to have information about the conduct, the substance, the direction or the result of any FBI investigation.”

Utter bull crap, once again....from no one "in the know" merely EX agents....with an ax to grind or needing their 15 minutes of fame.

The FBI has given one and only one OFFICIAL statement on this investigation, all else is partisan speculations, innuendo, and fabrications, and they stated specifically that Hillary was NOT the focus of this investigation, her server was, because the IG followed the regulations which stated that the must notify intelligence when their is possible classified top secret material, not in their possession.


A Justice official said the department had received a "referral" on the matter, which the inspector general of the intelligence agencies later acknowledged came from him.

The inspector general, I. Charles McCullough III, said in a separate statement that he had found information that should have been designated as classified in four e-mails out of a "limited sample" of 40 that his agency reviewed. As a result, he said, he made the "security referral," acting under a federal law that requires alerting the FBI to any potential compromises of national security information.

[...]

Officials acknowledged that none of the e-mails reviewed so far contain information that was marked classified when they were sent...
[The Washington Post, 7/24/15]

IG Memo On Classified Information In Emails: "None Of The Emails ... Had Classification Or Dissemination Markings." A memo from the ICIG clearly stated that "none of the emails we reviewed had classification or dissemination markings".



The following is attributable to Spokesperson John Kirby:

"The State Department takes seriously its obligations to protect sensitive information, holding its employees to a high standard of compliance with regulations and procedures.

"The Intelligence Community has recommended that portions of two of the four emails identified by the Intelligence Community's Inspector General should be upgraded to the Top Secret level. Department employees circulated these emails on unclassified systems in 2009 and 2011 and ultimately some were forwarded to Secretary Clinton. They were not marked as classified.

"These emails have not been released to the public. While we work with the Director of National Intelligence to resolve whether, in fact, this material is actually classified, we are taking steps to ensure the information is protected and stored appropriately." [Twitter.com, 8/11/15]

and there is this as well:


Would this issue not have arisen if she used a state.gov email address?

Even if Clinton's emails had been on a government email address and government device, these questions would be raised prior to public release.

While State Department's review of her 55,000 emails brought the issue to the Inspectors Generals' attentions, the four emails were on the unclassified .gov email system. They were not on the separate, closed system used by State Department for handling classified communications. Myths And Facts On Hillary Clinton's Email And Reports Of "Top Secret" Materials

FACT: IG Referral To Justice Department Was Not Criminal, And FBI Isn't Targeting Clinton Herself


Wash. Post: Officials Say Clinton "Is Not A Target" Of FBI Probe. The Washington Post reported that government officials said Clinton is "not a target" of the FBI's investigation:

Hillary Rodham Clinton's attorney has agreed to provide the FBI with the private server that housed her e-mail during her four years as secretary of state, Clinton's presidential campaign said Tuesday.

[...]

The inquiry by the FBI is considered preliminary and appears to be focused on ensuring the proper handling of classified material. Officials have said that Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, is not a target.

The FBI's efforts have included contacting the Denver-based technology firm that helped manage the Clintons' unusual private e-mail system. [The Washington Post, 8/11/15



The FBI has not officially stated anything else on the investigation, just right wing HACKS pushing innuendo and making crap up....

These rags are CREATING their own News and NOT reporting the News, the FACTS.

OK. nothing happened ever. No worries. Shut it down. Chelsa for VP. Git er' done.


State Dept. Records Show John Kerry Sent Hillary A ‘SECRET’ Email From His iPad

Clinton forwarded the email to an aide, instructing her to “Pls print” the document.

The redactions in the email are listed under the Freedom of Information Act exemptions 1.4(b) and 1.4(d), which are categories reserved for information gleaned from foreign government sources.


The kicker is that Kerry sent Clinton the information from his iPad, a communications device that would have been much more vulnerable to hackers than an encrypted communications system.

the information was NOT CLASSIFIED at the time Kerry sent it...

but yes, they, the gvt, does need to do something about EVERYONE's loose as a goose attitudes towards this kind of material and set up some sort of Classified email system in the State Department for them to work off of instead of this UNCLASSIFIED, State.gov system....the only one they have to communicate their daily duties on.

Bullshit, not marked does not equal not classified. The content makes it classified, not the markings. If she received unmarked classified data, it was her duty as a holder of a security clearance to add markings to it.

You silly fool, you have no idea about the laws regarding classified data. I had top secret and SAP clearances, I know the rules. If I did what she did, I would be in jail today.

The biggest problem Dims have today is that there are so many people blogging on the internet who know the truth about their lies. 20 years ago Hillary would have gotten away with her lies.

 

[bripat9643]

Sorry but you are confused. You Moon Bats stay confused most of the time, don't you?

My son was part of the Surge that defeated the Insurgents and later on part of the last combat troops that pulled out of Iraq. When he left the country it was stable and the "blue finger" elected government in charge. He went home and shortly afterwards that shithead Obama got up in front of the troops and declared that "Iraq was a success".

If the war was lost at Abu Grahib then Obama was lying to the troops with his "Mission Accomplished" statement, wasn't he? He was taking credit for bringing the troops when the job wasn't done, wasn't he? If that is the case then he was piss poor Commander in Chief, wasn't he?

The truth of the matter is that the troops did complete the mission. The problem was that Obama and that idiot Clinton as Secretary of State did not do the necessary follow up work by negotiating a Status of Forces Agreement to allow stability for a longer time. The same kind of effort Obama is telling us nowadays we need in Afghanistan by continued troop presence.

This Libtard bullshit about Abu Grahib is ISIS propaganda and you Moon Bat assholes are idiots for repeating it.

Foreign policy is hard work. Obama and his Affirmative Action administration doesn't like to do hard work. Obama likes to play golf and raise money for the filthy ass Democrat Party and that is why our foreign policy is the laughing stock of the world nowadays.

If you really thought the Iraq War was a bad thing thing then you wouldn't do a dumbass thing like vote for The Hillary Bitch that supported the invasion, would you? However, you will vote for her in November if she has a filthy "D" by her name because you really don't have convictions on things like this, do you?

This country was doing fine until that shitty 2006 elected Democrat Congress with Barney Queerboy, Nancy Peloski and Harry Reid took over and then things got really screwed up. It got worse after Obama was elected President.

After seven years of Obama we have tremendous debt, increased poverty, poor economic growth, reduced family income and as we saw with the economic news this week the only jobs abvailable in the US nowadays are flipping burgers.


Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success

Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success

Bullshit.

The job was done.

The job was to get the Iraqis to stand up so we could stand down.

We stood them up so we stood down. It's not our fault they wouldn't remain standing years after we left.

Right, the job was to run away so ISIS could move in. Only an Obama dick sucker could say something so clueless.

Idiot... Bush signed the agreement with Iraq to withdraw ALL of our forces.

Again, our job was not to stay there forever. It was to position the Iraqis to stand up for themselves.

We did that. It's not our fault they ran from their own responsibilities to defend their own nation years later.

Obviously, Obama didn't position them to stand up for themselves. If he did, then why does ISIS control half the country?

Before Bush left office, he thought they were sufficiently positioned to stand up for themselves. He agreed at that time we could, and should, remove ALL of our troops from Iraq. Obama agreed and Iraq even agreed. There was no need at that point for our troops to remain. We did our job of standing up Iraq.

Again, it's not our fault Iraq chose to not defend their own nation years after we stood them up. It's quite revealing how you think Iraq bears zero responsibility in fighting for their own country.

Do you have some quote of Bush saying we should remove all troops the day that Obama did?

 

[Faun]

Hillary Clinton lied to the American people once again. She is bad about that, isn't she?

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say | Fox News

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say

In the New Hampshire debate with Senator Bernie Sanders, which aired on MSNBC, Clinton told moderator Chuck Todd that nothing would come of the FBI probe, “I am 100 percent confident. This is a security review that was requested. It is being carried out.”

Not true says Steve Pomerantz, who spent 28 years at the FBI, and rose from field investigative special agent to the rank of assistant director, the third highest position in the Bureau.

“They (the FBI) do not do security reviews,” Pomerantz said. “What they primarily do and what they are clearly doing in this instance is a criminal investigation.”

Pomerantz emphasized to Fox News, “There is no mechanism for her to be briefed and to have information about the conduct, the substance, the direction or the result of any FBI investigation.”

Utter bull crap, once again....from no one "in the know" merely EX agents....with an ax to grind or needing their 15 minutes of fame.

The FBI has given one and only one OFFICIAL statement on this investigation, all else is partisan speculations, innuendo, and fabrications, and they stated specifically that Hillary was NOT the focus of this investigation, her server was, because the IG followed the regulations which stated that the must notify intelligence when their is possible classified top secret material, not in their possession.


A Justice official said the department had received a "referral" on the matter, which the inspector general of the intelligence agencies later acknowledged came from him.

The inspector general, I. Charles McCullough III, said in a separate statement that he had found information that should have been designated as classified in four e-mails out of a "limited sample" of 40 that his agency reviewed. As a result, he said, he made the "security referral," acting under a federal law that requires alerting the FBI to any potential compromises of national security information.

[...]

Officials acknowledged that none of the e-mails reviewed so far contain information that was marked classified when they were sent...
[The Washington Post, 7/24/15]

IG Memo On Classified Information In Emails: "None Of The Emails ... Had Classification Or Dissemination Markings." A memo from the ICIG clearly stated that "none of the emails we reviewed had classification or dissemination markings".



The following is attributable to Spokesperson John Kirby:

"The State Department takes seriously its obligations to protect sensitive information, holding its employees to a high standard of compliance with regulations and procedures.

"The Intelligence Community has recommended that portions of two of the four emails identified by the Intelligence Community's Inspector General should be upgraded to the Top Secret level. Department employees circulated these emails on unclassified systems in 2009 and 2011 and ultimately some were forwarded to Secretary Clinton. They were not marked as classified.

"These emails have not been released to the public. While we work with the Director of National Intelligence to resolve whether, in fact, this material is actually classified, we are taking steps to ensure the information is protected and stored appropriately." [Twitter.com, 8/11/15]

and there is this as well:


Would this issue not have arisen if she used a state.gov email address?

Even if Clinton's emails had been on a government email address and government device, these questions would be raised prior to public release.

While State Department's review of her 55,000 emails brought the issue to the Inspectors Generals' attentions, the four emails were on the unclassified .gov email system. They were not on the separate, closed system used by State Department for handling classified communications. Myths And Facts On Hillary Clinton's Email And Reports Of "Top Secret" Materials

FACT: IG Referral To Justice Department Was Not Criminal, And FBI Isn't Targeting Clinton Herself


Wash. Post: Officials Say Clinton "Is Not A Target" Of FBI Probe. The Washington Post reported that government officials said Clinton is "not a target" of the FBI's investigation:

Hillary Rodham Clinton's attorney has agreed to provide the FBI with the private server that housed her e-mail during her four years as secretary of state, Clinton's presidential campaign said Tuesday.

[...]

The inquiry by the FBI is considered preliminary and appears to be focused on ensuring the proper handling of classified material. Officials have said that Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, is not a target.

The FBI's efforts have included contacting the Denver-based technology firm that helped manage the Clintons' unusual private e-mail system. [The Washington Post, 8/11/15



The FBI has not officially stated anything else on the investigation, just right wing HACKS pushing innuendo and making crap up....

These rags are CREATING their own News and NOT reporting the News, the FACTS.

OK. nothing happened ever. No worries. Shut it down. Chelsa for VP. Git er' done.


State Dept. Records Show John Kerry Sent Hillary A ‘SECRET’ Email From His iPad

Clinton forwarded the email to an aide, instructing her to “Pls print” the document.

The redactions in the email are listed under the Freedom of Information Act exemptions 1.4(b) and 1.4(d), which are categories reserved for information gleaned from foreign government sources.


The kicker is that Kerry sent Clinton the information from his iPad, a communications device that would have been much more vulnerable to hackers than an encrypted communications system.

the information was NOT CLASSIFIED at the time Kerry sent it...

but yes, they, the gvt, does need to do something about EVERYONE's loose as a goose attitudes towards this kind of material and set up some sort of Classified email system in the State Department for them to work off of instead of this UNCLASSIFIED, State.gov system....the only one they have to communicate their daily duties on.

Bullshit, not marked does not equal not classified. The content makes it classified, not the markings. If she received unmarked classified data, it was her duty as a holder of a security clearance to add markings to it.

You silly fool, you have no idea about the laws regarding classified data. I had top secret and SAP clearances, I know the rules. If I did what she did, I would be in jail today.

The biggest problem Dims have today is that there are so many people blogging on the internet who know the truth about their lies. 20 years ago Hillary would have gotten away with her lies.

And yet, Hillary is nether done nor going to jail. Thread fail.

 

[Meathead]

Take just the first paragraph in this article that is incorrect,

The State maintained gov't email system that the other Secretary of State used, the State.gov email system, this .gov email set up was and still is, an UNCLASSIFIED email system, NOT in any way, shape, or form, the email system or server, for CLASSIFIED information.

So, even if she had this gov't email as Powell and Rice, this was the gvts UNCLASSIFIED, .gov server, and the emails on her server that are now being classified, would not have been more secure, or on the gvts CLASSIFIED server... they would have been on the gvts UNCLASSIFIED system...

The gvts CLASSIFIED system, is a totally separate system, in a separate room, with individual and different user IDs, with no capabilities to even access the internet or even the .gov email system.

Hillary did have access, and gov't protection, for this CLASSIFIED top SECRET system.

So just the first paragraph of this article is incorrect and deceiving....

Leaves readers with the wrong impression from the get go.

Now let me go back to reading the rest of the article....

It is absolutely staggering to me that the Secretary of State of the United States of America thought it was a good idea to use her own private server to conduct state business.

For alumni of U.S. national-security departments and agencies, Hillary Clinton’s email saga is mind-numbing. The publicly available information makes clear she and her aides violated so many elementary security prohibitions that alumni are speechless. They wonder, had they done what she did, how quickly they would have lost their clearances and jobs and how extensive the criminal indictments against them would be. ...

State, like other national-security agencies, has both classified and unclassified ways for its employees, especially the most senior, to communicate. Clinton erred in two separate but often confused ways. First, she used private channels for official government business, and second, she used unclassified channels to send and receive classified information.

Her first error violates basic common sense, familiar to any private business: Business channels should be used for business purposes and personal channels for personal purposes. Obviously, there can be ambiguity between business and personal communications, such as one spouse asking another, "When will you be home for dinner?" But in Clinton's case, there seems to be no ambiguity: She simply did not use government channels for her electronic communications. Her motive was almost certainly to put information she alone deemed personal beyond government access, which is impermissible even for the most junior clerk, let alone the secretary of state. Clinton's private email system by definition undercuts her defense that she complied with government record-keeping requirements because all her emails went to unclassified government accounts (such as her aides'). Without full access to her server, why should we believe Clinton didn't send emails to aides' private email addresses, thereby shielding them entirely from potential government retrieval?

Clinton's second error, using unclassified email systems—whether her private accounts or State's unclassified email system (through her aides)—to transmit material that should have remained in classified channels, is the nub of the email issue. Clinton has asserted that what she did with her private channels was "allowed." Yet she has produced no evidence whatever of who did this "allowing" that was contrary to applicable statutes and express State Department regulations involving official business and information security. ...​

The Email Saga

John Bolton piece dear..............PLEASEEEEEE! He's the criminal imo....and many others.

The .gov system has been hacked THOUSANDS of times, hillary's secure server? ZERO

please tell us exactly how you personally know that her server was not hacked. Do you have some inside information, or are you just spouting bullshit as usual?

the same way you know it was hacked, spouting BS.

I never said it was hacked. But you clowns are absolutely sure it wasn't. Since it was not secure and because she was SecState, it is very likely that the Russians and Chinese have every one of those emails. Likely, not positive. But if they do, they could blackmail her for the rest of her life. Are you willing to take that chance?

If it wasn't hacked there are heads rolling in the intelligent services of at least 100 countries. Maybe not every country in the world hacked into it, but we can be sure the Chinese and the Russians got in. They are not idiots, and like Putin with Obama, they know one when they see her.

 

[Redfish]

Hillary Clinton lied to the American people once again. She is bad about that, isn't she?

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say | Fox News

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say

In the New Hampshire debate with Senator Bernie Sanders, which aired on MSNBC, Clinton told moderator Chuck Todd that nothing would come of the FBI probe, “I am 100 percent confident. This is a security review that was requested. It is being carried out.”

Not true says Steve Pomerantz, who spent 28 years at the FBI, and rose from field investigative special agent to the rank of assistant director, the third highest position in the Bureau.

“They (the FBI) do not do security reviews,” Pomerantz said. “What they primarily do and what they are clearly doing in this instance is a criminal investigation.”

Pomerantz emphasized to Fox News, “There is no mechanism for her to be briefed and to have information about the conduct, the substance, the direction or the result of any FBI investigation.”

Utter bull crap, once again....from no one "in the know" merely EX agents....with an ax to grind or needing their 15 minutes of fame.

The FBI has given one and only one OFFICIAL statement on this investigation, all else is partisan speculations, innuendo, and fabrications, and they stated specifically that Hillary was NOT the focus of this investigation, her server was, because the IG followed the regulations which stated that the must notify intelligence when their is possible classified top secret material, not in their possession.


A Justice official said the department had received a "referral" on the matter, which the inspector general of the intelligence agencies later acknowledged came from him.

The inspector general, I. Charles McCullough III, said in a separate statement that he had found information that should have been designated as classified in four e-mails out of a "limited sample" of 40 that his agency reviewed. As a result, he said, he made the "security referral," acting under a federal law that requires alerting the FBI to any potential compromises of national security information.

[...]

Officials acknowledged that none of the e-mails reviewed so far contain information that was marked classified when they were sent...
[The Washington Post, 7/24/15]

IG Memo On Classified Information In Emails: "None Of The Emails ... Had Classification Or Dissemination Markings." A memo from the ICIG clearly stated that "none of the emails we reviewed had classification or dissemination markings".



The following is attributable to Spokesperson John Kirby:

"The State Department takes seriously its obligations to protect sensitive information, holding its employees to a high standard of compliance with regulations and procedures.

"The Intelligence Community has recommended that portions of two of the four emails identified by the Intelligence Community's Inspector General should be upgraded to the Top Secret level. Department employees circulated these emails on unclassified systems in 2009 and 2011 and ultimately some were forwarded to Secretary Clinton. They were not marked as classified.

"These emails have not been released to the public. While we work with the Director of National Intelligence to resolve whether, in fact, this material is actually classified, we are taking steps to ensure the information is protected and stored appropriately." [Twitter.com, 8/11/15]

and there is this as well:


Would this issue not have arisen if she used a state.gov email address?

Even if Clinton's emails had been on a government email address and government device, these questions would be raised prior to public release.

While State Department's review of her 55,000 emails brought the issue to the Inspectors Generals' attentions, the four emails were on the unclassified .gov email system. They were not on the separate, closed system used by State Department for handling classified communications. Myths And Facts On Hillary Clinton's Email And Reports Of "Top Secret" Materials

FACT: IG Referral To Justice Department Was Not Criminal, And FBI Isn't Targeting Clinton Herself


Wash. Post: Officials Say Clinton "Is Not A Target" Of FBI Probe. The Washington Post reported that government officials said Clinton is "not a target" of the FBI's investigation:

Hillary Rodham Clinton's attorney has agreed to provide the FBI with the private server that housed her e-mail during her four years as secretary of state, Clinton's presidential campaign said Tuesday.

[...]

The inquiry by the FBI is considered preliminary and appears to be focused on ensuring the proper handling of classified material. Officials have said that Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, is not a target.

The FBI's efforts have included contacting the Denver-based technology firm that helped manage the Clintons' unusual private e-mail system. [The Washington Post, 8/11/15



The FBI has not officially stated anything else on the investigation, just right wing HACKS pushing innuendo and making crap up....

These rags are CREATING their own News and NOT reporting the News, the FACTS.

OK. nothing happened ever. No worries. Shut it down. Chelsa for VP. Git er' done.


State Dept. Records Show John Kerry Sent Hillary A ‘SECRET’ Email From His iPad

Clinton forwarded the email to an aide, instructing her to “Pls print” the document.

The redactions in the email are listed under the Freedom of Information Act exemptions 1.4(b) and 1.4(d), which are categories reserved for information gleaned from foreign government sources.


The kicker is that Kerry sent Clinton the information from his iPad, a communications device that would have been much more vulnerable to hackers than an encrypted communications system.

the information was NOT CLASSIFIED at the time Kerry sent it...

but yes, they, the gvt, does need to do something about EVERYONE's loose as a goose attitudes towards this kind of material and set up some sort of Classified email system in the State Department for them to work off of instead of this UNCLASSIFIED, State.gov system....the only one they have to communicate their daily duties on.

Hillary is the only one with the "loose as a goose" attitude about security.

the .gov unclassified email system that you wanted her to use as her official email, is hacked THOUSANDS of times a year. Try again.

Uhhh, ok. Now, who ever said that she should have been using a unclassified govt system? answer, no one. The govt has secure email systems for transmission of some classified data, highly classified data, like the 22 emails that cannot be released has much more stringent rules regarding custody transfer.

Again, you are speaking out of ignorance and making a fool of yourself trying to defend your heroine.