DONE - GOING TO JAIL! -- Official: Some Clinton emails 'too damaging' to release'

The FBI is not just investigating "someone". They are investigating Hillary Clinton.

They are investing that she may have mishandled sensitive national security information and that is very serious and is a crime.

According to the reports they have widen their investigation to look into her using her government position to sell influence to foreign countries.

so in short, they can't prove what they are investigating, and ONCE AGAIN, they are trying to find her guilty of something, dammit!!!

You know, kind of how an investigation about a land deal that failed became an investigation about whether Bill Clinton thinks a Blow Job is sex or not.

In the previous years she was accused of other things like incompetence and lying about Benghazi but not these crimes.

Yes it seems like you guys are always investigating her and always coming up with... nothing.

Seriously who is your political strategist, Wile E. Coyote?

Would you want NO investigations?


sure, 9 more sounds about right ...

Has Hillary gone to ja



nevermind, she hasn't.

:lmao::lmao:
 
Hillary Clinton lied to the American people once again. She is bad about that, isn't she?

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say | Fox News

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say

In the New Hampshire debate with Senator Bernie Sanders, which aired on MSNBC, Clinton told moderator Chuck Todd that nothing would come of the FBI probe, “I am 100 percent confident. This is a security review that was requested. It is being carried out.”

Not true says Steve Pomerantz, who spent 28 years at the FBI, and rose from field investigative special agent to the rank of assistant director, the third highest position in the Bureau.

“They (the FBI) do not do security reviews,” Pomerantz said. “What they primarily do and what they are clearly doing in this instance is a criminal investigation.”

Pomerantz emphasized to Fox News, “There is no mechanism for her to be briefed and to have information about the conduct, the substance, the direction or the result of any FBI investigation.”
Utter bull crap, once again....from no one "in the know" merely EX agents....with an ax to grind or needing their 15 minutes of fame.

The FBI has given one and only one OFFICIAL statement on this investigation, all else is partisan speculations, innuendo, and fabrications, and they stated specifically that Hillary was NOT the focus of this investigation, her server was, because the IG followed the regulations which stated that the must notify intelligence when their is possible classified top secret material, not in their possession.


A Justice official said the department had received a "referral" on the matter, which the inspector general of the intelligence agencies later acknowledged came from him.

The inspector general, I. Charles McCullough III, said in a separate statement that he had found information that should have been designated as classified in four e-mails out of a "limited sample" of 40 that his agency reviewed. As a result, he said, he made the "security referral," acting under a federal law that requires alerting the FBI to any potential compromises of national security information.

[...]

Officials acknowledged that none of the e-mails reviewed so far contain information that was marked classified when they were sent...
[The Washington Post, 7/24/15]

IG Memo On Classified Information In Emails: "None Of The Emails ... Had Classification Or Dissemination Markings."
A memo from the ICIG clearly stated that "none of the emails we reviewed had classification or dissemination markings".



The following is attributable to Spokesperson John Kirby:

"The State Department takes seriously its obligations to protect sensitive information, holding its employees to a high standard of compliance with regulations and procedures.

"The Intelligence Community has recommended that portions of two of the four emails identified by the Intelligence Community's Inspector General should be upgraded to the Top Secret level. Department employees circulated these emails on unclassified systems in 2009 and 2011 and ultimately some were forwarded to Secretary Clinton. They were not marked as classified.

"These emails have not been released to the public. While we work with the Director of National Intelligence to resolve whether, in fact, this material is actually classified, we are taking steps to ensure the information is protected and stored appropriately." [Twitter.com, 8/11/15]

and there is this as well:


Would this issue not have arisen if she used a state.gov email address?

Even if Clinton's emails had been on a government email address and government device, these questions would be raised prior to public release.

While State Department's review of her 55,000 emails brought the issue to the Inspectors Generals' attentions, the four emails were on the unclassified .gov email system. They were not on the separate, closed system used by State Department for handling classified communications. Myths And Facts On Hillary Clinton's Email And Reports Of "Top Secret" Materials


FACT: IG Referral To Justice Department Was Not Criminal, And FBI Isn't Targeting Clinton Herself


Wash. Post: Officials Say Clinton "Is Not A Target" Of FBI Probe. The Washington Post reported that government officials said Clinton is "not a target" of the FBI's investigation:

Hillary Rodham Clinton's attorney has agreed to provide the FBI with the private server that housed her e-mail during her four years as secretary of state, Clinton's presidential campaign said Tuesday.

[...]

The inquiry by the FBI is considered preliminary and appears to be focused on ensuring the proper handling of classified material. Officials have said that Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, is not a target.

The FBI's efforts have included contacting the Denver-based technology firm that helped manage the Clintons' unusual private e-mail system. [The Washington Post, 8/11/15



The FBI has not officially stated anything else on the investigation, just right wing HACKS pushing innuendo and making crap up....


These rags are CREATING their own News and NOT reporting the News, the FACTS.
 
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Hillary Clinton lied to the American people once again. She is bad about that, isn't she?

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say | Fox News

Hillary misleading about email probe during debate, former FBI agents say

In the New Hampshire debate with Senator Bernie Sanders, which aired on MSNBC, Clinton told moderator Chuck Todd that nothing would come of the FBI probe, “I am 100 percent confident. This is a security review that was requested. It is being carried out.”

Not true says Steve Pomerantz, who spent 28 years at the FBI, and rose from field investigative special agent to the rank of assistant director, the third highest position in the Bureau.

“They (the FBI) do not do security reviews,” Pomerantz said. “What they primarily do and what they are clearly doing in this instance is a criminal investigation.”

Pomerantz emphasized to Fox News, “There is no mechanism for her to be briefed and to have information about the conduct, the substance, the direction or the result of any FBI investigation.”
Utter bull crap, once again....from no one "in the know" merely EX agents....with an ax to grind or needing their 15 minutes of fame.

The FBI has given one and only one OFFICIAL statement on this investigation, all else is partisan speculations, innuendo, and fabrications, and they stated specifically that Hillary was NOT the focus of this investigation, her server was, because the IG followed the regulations which stated that the must notify intelligence when their is possible classified top secret material, not in their possession.


A Justice official said the department had received a "referral" on the matter, which the inspector general of the intelligence agencies later acknowledged came from him.

The inspector general, I. Charles McCullough III, said in a separate statement that he had found information that should have been designated as classified in four e-mails out of a "limited sample" of 40 that his agency reviewed. As a result, he said, he made the "security referral," acting under a federal law that requires alerting the FBI to any potential compromises of national security information.

[...]

Officials acknowledged that none of the e-mails reviewed so far contain information that was marked classified when they were sent...
[The Washington Post, 7/24/15]

IG Memo On Classified Information In Emails: "None Of The Emails ... Had Classification Or Dissemination Markings."
A memo from the ICIG clearly stated that "none of the emails we reviewed had classification or dissemination markings".



The following is attributable to Spokesperson John Kirby:

"The State Department takes seriously its obligations to protect sensitive information, holding its employees to a high standard of compliance with regulations and procedures.

"The Intelligence Community has recommended that portions of two of the four emails identified by the Intelligence Community's Inspector General should be upgraded to the Top Secret level. Department employees circulated these emails on unclassified systems in 2009 and 2011 and ultimately some were forwarded to Secretary Clinton. They were not marked as classified.

"These emails have not been released to the public. While we work with the Director of National Intelligence to resolve whether, in fact, this material is actually classified, we are taking steps to ensure the information is protected and stored appropriately." [Twitter.com, 8/11/15]

and there is this as well:


Would this issue not have arisen if she used a state.gov email address?

Even if Clinton's emails had been on a government email address and government device, these questions would be raised prior to public release.

While State Department's review of her 55,000 emails brought the issue to the Inspectors Generals' attentions, the four emails were on the unclassified .gov email system. They were not on the separate, closed system used by State Department for handling classified communications. Myths And Facts On Hillary Clinton's Email And Reports Of "Top Secret" Materials


FACT: IG Referral To Justice Department Was Not Criminal, And FBI Isn't Targeting Clinton Herself


Wash. Post: Officials Say Clinton "Is Not A Target" Of FBI Probe. The Washington Post reported that government officials said Clinton is "not a target" of the FBI's investigation:

Hillary Rodham Clinton's attorney has agreed to provide the FBI with the private server that housed her e-mail during her four years as secretary of state, Clinton's presidential campaign said Tuesday.

[...]

The inquiry by the FBI is considered preliminary and appears to be focused on ensuring the proper handling of classified material. Officials have said that Clinton, the Democratic presidential front-runner, is not a target.

The FBI's efforts have included contacting the Denver-based technology firm that helped manage the Clintons' unusual private e-mail system. [The Washington Post, 8/11/15



The FBI has not officially stated anything else on the investigation, just right wing HACKS pushing innuendo and making crap up....


These rags are CREATING their own News and NOT reporting the News, the FACTS.


OK. nothing happened ever. No worries. Shut it down. Chelsa for VP. Git er' done.


State Dept. Records Show John Kerry Sent Hillary A ‘SECRET’ Email From His iPad

Clinton forwarded the email to an aide, instructing her to “Pls print” the document.

The redactions in the email are listed under the Freedom of Information Act exemptions 1.4(b) and 1.4(d), which are categories reserved for information gleaned from foreign government sources.


The kicker is that Kerry sent Clinton the information from his iPad, a communications device that would have been much more vulnerable to hackers than an encrypted communications system.
 
Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton
Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton | Politicus USA

Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

powell-clinton.jpg


Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

Powell reacted to an NBC News report that the State Department is retroactively classifying his emails by calling for all of his emails to be released.

Powell said, “I wish they would release them, so that a normal, air-breathing mammal would look at them and say, ‘What’s the issue?’ They were unclassified at the time, and they are, in my judgment, still unclassified.”

Clinton Email Scandal Falls Apart As State Dept. Says There Was No Policy Against Private Email | Politicus USA,

The U.S. State Department says, "There was no policy prohibiting the use of the use of a private email account here at the State Department."

Both Former Secretary of State Colin Powell and Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice used private email account during their tenure at the State Department.

That has already been proven to be a lie.
 
Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton
Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton | Politicus USA

Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

powell-clinton.jpg


Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

Powell reacted to an NBC News report that the State Department is retroactively classifying his emails by calling for all of his emails to be released.

Powell said, “I wish they would release them, so that a normal, air-breathing mammal would look at them and say, ‘What’s the issue?’ They were unclassified at the time, and they are, in my judgment, still unclassified.”

Clinton Email Scandal Falls Apart As State Dept. Says There Was No Policy Against Private Email | Politicus USA,

The U.S. State Department says, "There was no policy prohibiting the use of the use of a private email account here at the State Department."

Both Former Secretary of State Colin Powell and Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice used private email account during their tenure at the State Department.

That has already been proven to be a lie.

By which blogger?
 
I think this sums it up.

Start with the fact that neither Mr. Powell nor Ms. Rice set up a private email server to conduct government business. Mr. Powell did have a personal email account, but he purposely used a State-maintained classified computer system on his desk for classified communications. This may not have been “convenient” for him, to borrow an earlier Clinton explanation for her private server, but Mr. Powell understood the rules. And he understood them even prior to 2005 when State instituted clear rules warning against private email for official business. Mrs. Rice’s aides say she never used any email while at State.

While a few sensitive details may have leeched into a Powell or Rice-aide email account, these would have been accidental. By contrast, Mrs. Clinton intentionally created a private email account, on her own private server, precisely so she could keep those emails away from government public-disclosure rules.

Mr. Linik’s review turned up two messages sent to Mr. Powell’s account that State now deems sensitive (though Mr. Powell disputes that they should be classified). Mr. Linik found 10 that were sent to Ms. Rice’s State Department entourage over her entire tenure. By contrast, State has now deemed that more than 1,600 emails on Mrs. Clinton’s server are confidential—and there is another batch still to be released.

The federal government maintains several levels of classification, ranging from the lowest designations of “sensitive but unclassified” and “confidential” to code-word classifications for the most important secrets. While all such information must be safeguarded, lower-level “sensitive but unclassified” and “confidential” information is sometimes circulated on unclassified government systems. Mr. Powell points out that the two emails sent to him were first circulated on unclassified State Department systems and forwarded to his account by an assistant.

Many of Mrs. Clinton’s 1,600 classified emails also fall into these “sensitive” and “confidential” categories. But at least 22 emails have been identified as highly classified from their creation. This means that their information would have resided at all times on classified government systems until they were sent to Mrs. Clinton and her unclassified, unguarded private server. There is no evidence that anything remotely like that happened under Secretaries Powell or Rice.

This transfer question gets to the heart of Mrs. Clinton’s email negligence. Sen. Dianne Feinstein is defending Mrs. Clinton by claiming there is no evidence that any of these top secrets emails originated with Secretary Clinton. “It has never made sense to me that Secretary Clinton can be held responsible for email exchanges that originated with someone else,” the California Democrat says.

But Mrs. Clinton is responsible because she is the one who created the classification problem by doing official business on her private server. This would never have become an issue if she had followed the rules and used State Department email. That she set up her private email out of a self-serving desire to shield her communications from public disclosure makes her disregard for security a willful act that opens her to criminal liability.​

Clinton’s False Email Equivalence
Take just the first paragraph in this article that is incorrect,

The State maintained gov't email system that the other Secretary of State used, the State.gov email system, this .gov email set up was and still is, an UNCLASSIFIED email system, NOT in any way, shape, or form, the email system or server, for CLASSIFIED information.

So, even if she had this gov't email as Powell and Rice, this was the gvts UNCLASSIFIED, .gov server, and the emails on her server that are now being classified, would not have been more secure, or on the gvts CLASSIFIED server... they would have been on the gvts UNCLASSIFIED system...

The gvts CLASSIFIED system, is a totally separate system, in a separate room, with individual and different user IDs, with no capabilities to even access the internet or even the .gov email system.

Hillary did have access, and gov't protection, for this CLASSIFIED top SECRET system.

So just the first paragraph of this article is incorrect and deceiving....

Leaves readers with the wrong impression from the get go.

Now let me go back to reading the rest of the article....

It is absolutely staggering to me that the Secretary of State of the United States of America thought it was a good idea to use her own private server to conduct state business.

For alumni of U.S. national-security departments and agencies, Hillary Clinton’s email saga is mind-numbing. The publicly available information makes clear she and her aides violated so many elementary security prohibitions that alumni are speechless. They wonder, had they done what she did, how quickly they would have lost their clearances and jobs and how extensive the criminal indictments against them would be. ...

State, like other national-security agencies, has both classified and unclassified ways for its employees, especially the most senior, to communicate. Clinton erred in two separate but often confused ways. First, she used private channels for official government business, and second, she used unclassified channels to send and receive classified information.

Her first error violates basic common sense, familiar to any private business: Business channels should be used for business purposes and personal channels for personal purposes. Obviously, there can be ambiguity between business and personal communications, such as one spouse asking another, "When will you be home for dinner?" But in Clinton's case, there seems to be no ambiguity: She simply did not use government channels for her electronic communications. Her motive was almost certainly to put information she alone deemed personal beyond government access, which is impermissible even for the most junior clerk, let alone the secretary of state. Clinton's private email system by definition undercuts her defense that she complied with government record-keeping requirements because all her emails went to unclassified government accounts (such as her aides'). Without full access to her server, why should we believe Clinton didn't send emails to aides' private email addresses, thereby shielding them entirely from potential government retrieval?

Clinton's second error, using unclassified email systems—whether her private accounts or State's unclassified email system (through her aides)—to transmit material that should have remained in classified channels, is the nub of the email issue. Clinton has asserted that what she did with her private channels was "allowed." Yet she has produced no evidence whatever of who did this "allowing" that was contrary to applicable statutes and express State Department regulations involving official business and information security. ...​

The Email Saga
 
As opposed to the thousands of Afghani's and Iraqi's that died in two Immoral, Illegal and Unconstitutional Wars?

As opposed to all the Unborn of Afghanistan and Iraq who did not and do not have the same so-called "Right To Life" that RWNJ rant on about?

BEENNGGHAAZZIIIIIIII means nothing to the Republicans.

My post stands.


Hillary voted to authorize and fund those "immoral, illegal and unconstitutional" wars. So did many other democrats.

She also is directly and personally responsible for the 4 American deaths at Benghazi. She and obozo refused to help those people because they feared that acknowledging a terrorist attack would hurt his reelection chances. they let 4 americans die for their personal political gain, and then lied about it.

HRC is lower than pond scum and should be in jail.
She voted to authorize war if Iraq was a threat to us.

What was the threat?


Ask her, she voted for it, and then voted to authorize the funding to continue it. The UN thought Saddam was a threat, was the UN in on it with Bush to start a war?

You libs are the most disingenuous people on earth. You continually lie and rewrite history to fit your perverted left wing agenda and support some of the most corrupt people ever to hold public office.
The reason you can't say Iraq was a threat was because they weren't.

The UN thought they were, the EU thought they were, so did Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore, Bill Clinton, and many other dems.

Did Saddam ever have WMDs? well he gassed his own people, so I guess the answer is yes.
Did the USA need to spend billions of dollars and thousands of lives in that shithole? NO.
And so they voted to give Bush the authority to use force if he determined Iraq was truly a threat. In response, Bush got the U.N. inspectors back into Iraq. Rather than let them finish their job, Bush went to war since the inspectors were not finding that Hussein was either building or stockpiling WMD. Neither Hillary nor anyone else in Congress could have known Bush would dupe them.

But your claim that Bush did it all by himself, is total bullshit, they all have blood on their hands,including your screeching lying corrupt HRC.
Why are you calling Bush a bullshitter?

"As president I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq." - George Bush, 2005
 
Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton
Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton | Politicus USA

Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

powell-clinton.jpg


Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

Powell reacted to an NBC News report that the State Department is retroactively classifying his emails by calling for all of his emails to be released.

Powell said, “I wish they would release them, so that a normal, air-breathing mammal would look at them and say, ‘What’s the issue?’ They were unclassified at the time, and they are, in my judgment, still unclassified.”

Clinton Email Scandal Falls Apart As State Dept. Says There Was No Policy Against Private Email | Politicus USA,

The U.S. State Department says, "There was no policy prohibiting the use of the use of a private email account here at the State Department."

Both Former Secretary of State Colin Powell and Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice used private email account during their tenure at the State Department.

That has already been proven to be a lie.

By which blogger?

Politico says it, and so does Colin Powell:


Former Secretary of State Colin Powell said the FBI has contacted him about his use of personal email when he was the nation's top diplomat, as a review conducted by the State Department inspector general concluded that Powell and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice both received classified information through private email accounts...The State Department inquiry identified 10 messages sent to Rice's immediate staff that were classified and two sent to Powell, according to Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the ranking member on the House Oversight and Benghazi committees. The emails, Cummings said, appear to have no classification markings, and it is still unclear if the content of the emails was or should have been considered classified when the emails were originally written and sent. In an interview with POLITICO Thursday. Powell vigorously disputed the sensitivity of the information sent to him through personal email, but he acknowledged the law enforcement interest in his email routine. "The FBI has come to us," Powell said. Two FBI agents visited Powell in December for a discussion an aide described as a casual conversation about email practices during his term as secretary from 2001 to 2005...Powell seemed exasperated by State's latest claim. The agency has designated the two messages "Confidential," which is the lowest tier of classification. "Now, 11 or 12 years later, as part of a whole process of reviewing things somebody in the department says, 'Well, they're classified.' My response to that is no they were not," Powell said. " You can say your judgment is they should have been classified but at the time they were not classified.
No emails were sent to Rice. Some were sent to her staff. Rice never used email.
 
And so they voted to give Bush the authority to use force if he determined Iraq was truly a threat. In response, Bush got the U.N. inspectors back into Iraq. Rather than let them finish their job, Bush went to war since the inspectors were not finding that Hussein was either building or stockpiling WMD. Neither Hillary nor anyone else in Congress could have known Bush would dupe them.

The point being that if they fuck with Hillary, some cans of worms are going to be reopened...lol..

I'm beginning to think that if I hear goddangned "Benghazi" or "email" witch hunt language any more on the MSM, I may just vote for Hillary out of being pissed off that the GOP establishment is so utterly insulting and patronizing as to think they can fool all of the people all of the time. The folks in the middle think for themselves, idiots...that's why they're in the middle. They are less like sheep and more like goats. Try herding goats...they scatter in every direction if you spook them. No predicting at all where they'll go. Put some grain in bucket and shake it though and you can't get rid of them. They'll clump up around you like ticks on a hound. People in the middle in general were the ones who wanted Hillary in 08.

FIGURE IT OUT.
 
Are you certain of all of this? She is allowed to go thru and turn over only what she deems govt? Trust her? no verification, no double check? That is why they have gov accounts, all is captured in/out.
Why? Because she says so?

YES, 100% CERTAIN, it has been reported... here is the link to the Federal GVT archival rules for gvt documents and a bit about personal emails/documentary stuff not involved with gvt that may be deleted.


b. Within agency guidelines, employees may remove extra copies of records or other work-related, non-record materials when they leave the agency, with the approval of a designated official of the agency, such as the agency's records officer or legal counsel.





    • When determining whether to permit departing employees to remove extra copies, the agency should also consider the extent to which such removal could affect the agency's ability to invoke various legal privileges, and should consider the use of nondisclosure agreements in appropriate cases.
    • Copies of records that are national security classified must remain under the control of the agency. If the agency permits removal, they must be transferred to a facility that has an appropriate level security storage area and safeguarded in accordance with Information Security Oversight Office requirements for national security classified materials (36 CFR 1222.18 and 32 CFR 2001.40 - 2001.53).
    • Copies of records that are otherwise restricted (e.g., as privileged or under the Privacy Act) must be maintained in accordance with the appropriate agency requirements.
c. Employees may remove documentary materials that are of a purely personal nature when they leave the agency. Personal materials include family and personal correspondence and materials documenting professional activities and outside business or political pursuits (36 CFR 1220.18 and 36 CFR 1222.20). However, in many cases, employees intermingle their personal and official files. In those cases, the agency may need to review and approve the removal of personal materials to ensure that all agency policies are followed properly.

here is the link, read the whole thing to give a better understanding


Bulletin 2013-03
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AND she did not in any way plan this to hide gvt information as the operation once again implies....that's just bull crud, she turned over all gvt emails when the State dept requested them, but did not turn over her personal/ Clinton foundation emails.


never heard this one?

Where have you been? :D
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It was federal regulation, and still is federal regulation for all gov't employees to delete and not send to the gvt archives, any personal emails


FBI came and took it, I never heard she volunteer anything. how do you know what she/staff did to it prior? trust her?

It was reported that once it was determined that classified top secret info might be on her server, her lawyer took steps with the State department to secure it, and then turned it over....no fuss.

Prior to knowing some info could be top secret on the server, they did not want to turn it over and felt the Republican Congress members requesting it, just wanted to invade her private life, and personal emails.


Hillary Rodham Clinton’s attorney has agreed to provide the FBI with the private server that housed her e-mail during her four years as secretary of state...


Her attorney also has agreed to give agents a thumb drive containing copies of thousands of e-mails that Clinton had previously turned over to the State Department.
Hillary Clinton agrees to provide private e-mail server to FBI

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SHE did turn over her server to the FBI back in Aug, which WAS NOT WIPED CLEAN of anything, and ALL Emails ever sent, all work ever done on it, was there on it and easily recovered by them.



Becuase she says so? That don't work in private industry. What IG certified it "clean" before" FBI took it? huh? that is a bit confusing

NO OF COURSE NOT.

Not because she said so, because both the tech company she had her server with and because the FBI, and even Fox news, eventually admitted and reported such. Her server was NEVER WIPED CLEAN, it was all hogwash.


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So her Clinton foundation and personal emails and every thing she ever worked on as Secretary of State has been in the gvts hands since August 2015....she had no problem turning over her server once an IG believed there could be top secret info on it, so the FBI got it from her to secure it.

i believe i answered all of your concerns in red ink, within your response.
 
I think this sums it up.

Start with the fact that neither Mr. Powell nor Ms. Rice set up a private email server to conduct government business. Mr. Powell did have a personal email account, but he purposely used a State-maintained classified computer system on his desk for classified communications. This may not have been “convenient” for him, to borrow an earlier Clinton explanation for her private server, but Mr. Powell understood the rules. And he understood them even prior to 2005 when State instituted clear rules warning against private email for official business. Mrs. Rice’s aides say she never used any email while at State.

While a few sensitive details may have leeched into a Powell or Rice-aide email account, these would have been accidental. By contrast, Mrs. Clinton intentionally created a private email account, on her own private server, precisely so she could keep those emails away from government public-disclosure rules.

Mr. Linik’s review turned up two messages sent to Mr. Powell’s account that State now deems sensitive (though Mr. Powell disputes that they should be classified). Mr. Linik found 10 that were sent to Ms. Rice’s State Department entourage over her entire tenure. By contrast, State has now deemed that more than 1,600 emails on Mrs. Clinton’s server are confidential—and there is another batch still to be released.

The federal government maintains several levels of classification, ranging from the lowest designations of “sensitive but unclassified” and “confidential” to code-word classifications for the most important secrets. While all such information must be safeguarded, lower-level “sensitive but unclassified” and “confidential” information is sometimes circulated on unclassified government systems. Mr. Powell points out that the two emails sent to him were first circulated on unclassified State Department systems and forwarded to his account by an assistant.

Many of Mrs. Clinton’s 1,600 classified emails also fall into these “sensitive” and “confidential” categories. But at least 22 emails have been identified as highly classified from their creation. This means that their information would have resided at all times on classified government systems until they were sent to Mrs. Clinton and her unclassified, unguarded private server. There is no evidence that anything remotely like that happened under Secretaries Powell or Rice.

This transfer question gets to the heart of Mrs. Clinton’s email negligence. Sen. Dianne Feinstein is defending Mrs. Clinton by claiming there is no evidence that any of these top secrets emails originated with Secretary Clinton. “It has never made sense to me that Secretary Clinton can be held responsible for email exchanges that originated with someone else,” the California Democrat says.

But Mrs. Clinton is responsible because she is the one who created the classification problem by doing official business on her private server. This would never have become an issue if she had followed the rules and used State Department email. That she set up her private email out of a self-serving desire to shield her communications from public disclosure makes her disregard for security a willful act that opens her to criminal liability.​

Clinton’s False Email Equivalence
Take just the first paragraph in this article that is incorrect,

The State maintain gov't email system that the other Secretary of State used, the State.gov email system, this .gov email set up was and still is, an UNCLASSIFIED email system, NOT in any way, shape, or form, the email system or server, for CLASSIFIED information.

So, even if she had this gov't email as Powell and Rice, this was the gvts UNCLASSIFIED, .gov server, and the emails on her server that are now being classified, would not have been more secure or on the gvts CLASSIFIED server.

The gvts CLASSIFIED system, is a totally separate system, in a separate room, with individual and different user IDs, with no capabilities to even access the internet or even the .gov email system.

Hillary did have access, and gov't protection, for this CLASSIFIED top SECRET system.

So just the first paragraph of this article is incorrect and deceiving....

Leaves readers with the wrong impression from the get go.

Now let me go back to reading the rest of the article....


will you ever get your head out of Hillary's ass? nothing in your post is true. You are a victim of Clinton lies. wake up and smell reality. Oh, you can't, your head is still up her ass.
It's not Hillary,

My only concern is the TRUTH being known, then you can make up your own minds.


of course its Hillary. She was SecState, she is responsible. I agree on getting the truth out. But it sounds like you made up your mind without knowing the truth. What does that make you?
 
Are you certain of all of this? She is allowed to go thru and turn over only what she deems govt? Trust her? no verification, no double check? That is why they have gov accounts, all is captured in/out.
Why? Because she says so?

YES, 100% CERTAIN, it has been reported... here is the link to the Federal GVT archival rules for gvt documents and a bit about personal emails/documentary stuff not involved with gvt that may be deleted.


b. Within agency guidelines, employees may remove extra copies of records or other work-related, non-record materials when they leave the agency, with the approval of a designated official of the agency, such as the agency's records officer or legal counsel.





    • When determining whether to permit departing employees to remove extra copies, the agency should also consider the extent to which such removal could affect the agency's ability to invoke various legal privileges, and should consider the use of nondisclosure agreements in appropriate cases.
    • Copies of records that are national security classified must remain under the control of the agency. If the agency permits removal, they must be transferred to a facility that has an appropriate level security storage area and safeguarded in accordance with Information Security Oversight Office requirements for national security classified materials (36 CFR 1222.18 and 32 CFR 2001.40 - 2001.53).
    • Copies of records that are otherwise restricted (e.g., as privileged or under the Privacy Act) must be maintained in accordance with the appropriate agency requirements.
c. Employees may remove documentary materials that are of a purely personal nature when they leave the agency. Personal materials include family and personal correspondence and materials documenting professional activities and outside business or political pursuits (36 CFR 1220.18 and 36 CFR 1222.20). However, in many cases, employees intermingle their personal and official files. In those cases, the agency may need to review and approve the removal of personal materials to ensure that all agency policies are followed properly.

here is the link, read the whole thing to give a better understanding


Bulletin 2013-03
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AND she did not in any way plan this to hide gvt information as the operation once again implies....that's just bull crud, she turned over all gvt emails when the State dept requested them, but did not turn over her personal/ Clinton foundation emails.


never heard this one?

Where have you been? :D
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It was federal regulation, and still is federal regulation for all gov't employees to delete and not send to the gvt archives, any personal emails


FBI came and took it, I never heard she volunteer anything. how do you know what she/staff did to it prior? trust her?

It was reported that once it was determined that classified top secret info might be on her server, her lawyer took steps with the State department to secure it, and then turned it over....no fuss.

Prior to knowing some info could be top secret on the server, they did not want to turn it over and felt the Republican Congress members requesting it, just wanted to invade her private life, and personal emails.


Hillary Rodham Clinton’s attorney has agreed to provide the FBI with the private server that housed her e-mail during her four years as secretary of state...


Her attorney also has agreed to give agents a thumb drive containing copies of thousands of e-mails that Clinton had previously turned over to the State Department.
Hillary Clinton agrees to provide private e-mail server to FBI

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SHE did turn over her server to the FBI back in Aug, which WAS NOT WIPED CLEAN of anything, and ALL Emails ever sent, all work ever done on it, was there on it and easily recovered by them.



Becuase she says so? That don't work in private industry. What IG certified it "clean" before" FBI took it? huh? that is a bit confusing

NO OF COURSE NOT.

Not because she said so, because both the tech company she had her server with and because the FBI, and even Fox news, eventually admitted and reported such. Her server was NEVER WIPED CLEAN, it was all hogwash.


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So her Clinton foundation and personal emails and every thing she ever worked on as Secretary of State has been in the gvts hands since August 2015....she had no problem turning over her server once an IG believed there could be top secret info on it, so the FBI got it from her to secure it.

i believe i answered all of your concerns in red ink, within your response.


all you have done is repeat Hillary's lies and talking points. You are a sheep. Baaa, Baaa, Baaa.
 
Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton
Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton | Politicus USA

Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

powell-clinton.jpg


Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

Powell reacted to an NBC News report that the State Department is retroactively classifying his emails by calling for all of his emails to be released.

Powell said, “I wish they would release them, so that a normal, air-breathing mammal would look at them and say, ‘What’s the issue?’ They were unclassified at the time, and they are, in my judgment, still unclassified.”

Clinton Email Scandal Falls Apart As State Dept. Says There Was No Policy Against Private Email | Politicus USA,

The U.S. State Department says, "There was no policy prohibiting the use of the use of a private email account here at the State Department."

Both Former Secretary of State Colin Powell and Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice used private email account during their tenure at the State Department.

That has already been proven to be a lie.

By which blogger?

Politico says it, and so does Colin Powell:


Former Secretary of State Colin Powell said the FBI has contacted him about his use of personal email when he was the nation's top diplomat, as a review conducted by the State Department inspector general concluded that Powell and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice both received classified information through private email accounts...The State Department inquiry identified 10 messages sent to Rice's immediate staff that were classified and two sent to Powell, according to Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the ranking member on the House Oversight and Benghazi committees. The emails, Cummings said, appear to have no classification markings, and it is still unclear if the content of the emails was or should have been considered classified when the emails were originally written and sent. In an interview with POLITICO Thursday. Powell vigorously disputed the sensitivity of the information sent to him through personal email, but he acknowledged the law enforcement interest in his email routine. "The FBI has come to us," Powell said. Two FBI agents visited Powell in December for a discussion an aide described as a casual conversation about email practices during his term as secretary from 2001 to 2005...Powell seemed exasperated by State's latest claim. The agency has designated the two messages "Confidential," which is the lowest tier of classification. "Now, 11 or 12 years later, as part of a whole process of reviewing things somebody in the department says, 'Well, they're classified.' My response to that is no they were not," Powell said. " You can say your judgment is they should have been classified but at the time they were not classified.
No emails were sent to Rice. Some were sent to her staff. Rice never used email.

Stephanie says Politico doesn't count. You'll have to do better.
 
Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton
Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton | Politicus USA

Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

powell-clinton.jpg


Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

Powell reacted to an NBC News report that the State Department is retroactively classifying his emails by calling for all of his emails to be released.

Powell said, “I wish they would release them, so that a normal, air-breathing mammal would look at them and say, ‘What’s the issue?’ They were unclassified at the time, and they are, in my judgment, still unclassified.”

Clinton Email Scandal Falls Apart As State Dept. Says There Was No Policy Against Private Email | Politicus USA,

The U.S. State Department says, "There was no policy prohibiting the use of the use of a private email account here at the State Department."

Both Former Secretary of State Colin Powell and Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice used private email account during their tenure at the State Department.

That has already been proven to be a lie.

By which blogger?

Politico says it, and so does Colin Powell:


Former Secretary of State Colin Powell said the FBI has contacted him about his use of personal email when he was the nation's top diplomat, as a review conducted by the State Department inspector general concluded that Powell and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice both received classified information through private email accounts...The State Department inquiry identified 10 messages sent to Rice's immediate staff that were classified and two sent to Powell, according to Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the ranking member on the House Oversight and Benghazi committees. The emails, Cummings said, appear to have no classification markings, and it is still unclear if the content of the emails was or should have been considered classified when the emails were originally written and sent. In an interview with POLITICO Thursday. Powell vigorously disputed the sensitivity of the information sent to him through personal email, but he acknowledged the law enforcement interest in his email routine. "The FBI has come to us," Powell said. Two FBI agents visited Powell in December for a discussion an aide described as a casual conversation about email practices during his term as secretary from 2001 to 2005...Powell seemed exasperated by State's latest claim. The agency has designated the two messages "Confidential," which is the lowest tier of classification. "Now, 11 or 12 years later, as part of a whole process of reviewing things somebody in the department says, 'Well, they're classified.' My response to that is no they were not," Powell said. " You can say your judgment is they should have been classified but at the time they were not classified.
No emails were sent to Rice. Some were sent to her staff. Rice never used email.

Stephanie says Politico doesn't count. You'll have to do better.

It's one of the Dims' favorite sites. Are you telling me you don't even believe you're own propaganda?
 
Clinton Email Scandal Falls Apart As State Dept. Says There Was No Policy Against Private Email | Politicus USA,

The U.S. State Department says, "There was no policy prohibiting the use of the use of a private email account here at the State Department."

Both Former Secretary of State Colin Powell and Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice used private email account during their tenure at the State Department.

That has already been proven to be a lie.

By which blogger?

Politico says it, and so does Colin Powell:


Former Secretary of State Colin Powell said the FBI has contacted him about his use of personal email when he was the nation's top diplomat, as a review conducted by the State Department inspector general concluded that Powell and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice both received classified information through private email accounts...The State Department inquiry identified 10 messages sent to Rice's immediate staff that were classified and two sent to Powell, according to Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the ranking member on the House Oversight and Benghazi committees. The emails, Cummings said, appear to have no classification markings, and it is still unclear if the content of the emails was or should have been considered classified when the emails were originally written and sent. In an interview with POLITICO Thursday. Powell vigorously disputed the sensitivity of the information sent to him through personal email, but he acknowledged the law enforcement interest in his email routine. "The FBI has come to us," Powell said. Two FBI agents visited Powell in December for a discussion an aide described as a casual conversation about email practices during his term as secretary from 2001 to 2005...Powell seemed exasperated by State's latest claim. The agency has designated the two messages "Confidential," which is the lowest tier of classification. "Now, 11 or 12 years later, as part of a whole process of reviewing things somebody in the department says, 'Well, they're classified.' My response to that is no they were not," Powell said. " You can say your judgment is they should have been classified but at the time they were not classified.
No emails were sent to Rice. Some were sent to her staff. Rice never used email.

Stephanie says Politico doesn't count. You'll have to do better.

It's one of the Dims' favorite sites. Are y6ou telling me you don't even believe you're own propaganda?

I'm telling you Stephanie says it doesn't count. You RWs need to coordinate your :lalala: sources.
 
I think this sums it up.

Start with the fact that neither Mr. Powell nor Ms. Rice set up a private email server to conduct government business. Mr. Powell did have a personal email account, but he purposely used a State-maintained classified computer system on his desk for classified communications. This may not have been “convenient” for him, to borrow an earlier Clinton explanation for her private server, but Mr. Powell understood the rules. And he understood them even prior to 2005 when State instituted clear rules warning against private email for official business. Mrs. Rice’s aides say she never used any email while at State.

While a few sensitive details may have leeched into a Powell or Rice-aide email account, these would have been accidental. By contrast, Mrs. Clinton intentionally created a private email account, on her own private server, precisely so she could keep those emails away from government public-disclosure rules.

Mr. Linik’s review turned up two messages sent to Mr. Powell’s account that State now deems sensitive (though Mr. Powell disputes that they should be classified). Mr. Linik found 10 that were sent to Ms. Rice’s State Department entourage over her entire tenure. By contrast, State has now deemed that more than 1,600 emails on Mrs. Clinton’s server are confidential—and there is another batch still to be released.

The federal government maintains several levels of classification, ranging from the lowest designations of “sensitive but unclassified” and “confidential” to code-word classifications for the most important secrets. While all such information must be safeguarded, lower-level “sensitive but unclassified” and “confidential” information is sometimes circulated on unclassified government systems. Mr. Powell points out that the two emails sent to him were first circulated on unclassified State Department systems and forwarded to his account by an assistant.

Many of Mrs. Clinton’s 1,600 classified emails also fall into these “sensitive” and “confidential” categories. But at least 22 emails have been identified as highly classified from their creation. This means that their information would have resided at all times on classified government systems until they were sent to Mrs. Clinton and her unclassified, unguarded private server. There is no evidence that anything remotely like that happened under Secretaries Powell or Rice.

This transfer question gets to the heart of Mrs. Clinton’s email negligence. Sen. Dianne Feinstein is defending Mrs. Clinton by claiming there is no evidence that any of these top secrets emails originated with Secretary Clinton. “It has never made sense to me that Secretary Clinton can be held responsible for email exchanges that originated with someone else,” the California Democrat says.

But Mrs. Clinton is responsible because she is the one who created the classification problem by doing official business on her private server. This would never have become an issue if she had followed the rules and used State Department email. That she set up her private email out of a self-serving desire to shield her communications from public disclosure makes her disregard for security a willful act that opens her to criminal liability.​

Clinton’s False Email Equivalence
Take just the first paragraph in this article that is incorrect,

The State maintained gov't email system that the other Secretary of State used, the State.gov email system, this .gov email set up was and still is, an UNCLASSIFIED email system, NOT in any way, shape, or form, the email system or server, for CLASSIFIED information.

So, even if she had this gov't email as Powell and Rice, this was the gvts UNCLASSIFIED, .gov server, and the emails on her server that are now being classified, would not have been more secure, or on the gvts CLASSIFIED server... they would have been on the gvts UNCLASSIFIED system...

The gvts CLASSIFIED system, is a totally separate system, in a separate room, with individual and different user IDs, with no capabilities to even access the internet or even the .gov email system.

Hillary did have access, and gov't protection, for this CLASSIFIED top SECRET system.

So just the first paragraph of this article is incorrect and deceiving....

Leaves readers with the wrong impression from the get go.

Now let me go back to reading the rest of the article....

It is absolutely staggering to me that the Secretary of State of the United States of America thought it was a good idea to use her own private server to conduct state business.

For alumni of U.S. national-security departments and agencies, Hillary Clinton’s email saga is mind-numbing. The publicly available information makes clear she and her aides violated so many elementary security prohibitions that alumni are speechless. They wonder, had they done what she did, how quickly they would have lost their clearances and jobs and how extensive the criminal indictments against them would be. ...

State, like other national-security agencies, has both classified and unclassified ways for its employees, especially the most senior, to communicate. Clinton erred in two separate but often confused ways. First, she used private channels for official government business, and second, she used unclassified channels to send and receive classified information.

Her first error violates basic common sense, familiar to any private business: Business channels should be used for business purposes and personal channels for personal purposes. Obviously, there can be ambiguity between business and personal communications, such as one spouse asking another, "When will you be home for dinner?" But in Clinton's case, there seems to be no ambiguity: She simply did not use government channels for her electronic communications. Her motive was almost certainly to put information she alone deemed personal beyond government access, which is impermissible even for the most junior clerk, let alone the secretary of state. Clinton's private email system by definition undercuts her defense that she complied with government record-keeping requirements because all her emails went to unclassified government accounts (such as her aides'). Without full access to her server, why should we believe Clinton didn't send emails to aides' private email addresses, thereby shielding them entirely from potential government retrieval?

Clinton's second error, using unclassified email systems—whether her private accounts or State's unclassified email system (through her aides)—to transmit material that should have remained in classified channels, is the nub of the email issue. Clinton has asserted that what she did with her private channels was "allowed." Yet she has produced no evidence whatever of who did this "allowing" that was contrary to applicable statutes and express State Department regulations involving official business and information security. ...​

The Email Saga
John Bolton piece dear..............PLEASEEEEEE! He's the criminal imo....and many others.

The .gov system has been hacked THOUSANDS of times, hillary's secure server? ZERO
 
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The Iraq War was lost when the pictures of Abu Grahib became Public. That put the lie to the fact that we were "liberating" Iraq. Anything after that was just damage control.

Sorry but you are confused. You Moon Bats stay confused most of the time, don't you?

My son was part of the Surge that defeated the Insurgents and later on part of the last combat troops that pulled out of Iraq. When he left the country it was stable and the "blue finger" elected government in charge. He went home and shortly afterwards that shithead Obama got up in front of the troops and declared that "Iraq was a success".

If the war was lost at Abu Grahib then Obama was lying to the troops with his "Mission Accomplished" statement, wasn't he? He was taking credit for bringing the troops when the job wasn't done, wasn't he? If that is the case then he was piss poor Commander in Chief, wasn't he?

The truth of the matter is that the troops did complete the mission. The problem was that Obama and that idiot Clinton as Secretary of State did not do the necessary follow up work by negotiating a Status of Forces Agreement to allow stability for a longer time. The same kind of effort Obama is telling us nowadays we need in Afghanistan by continued troop presence.

This Libtard bullshit about Abu Grahib is ISIS propaganda and you Moon Bat assholes are idiots for repeating it.

Foreign policy is hard work. Obama and his Affirmative Action administration doesn't like to do hard work. Obama likes to play golf and raise money for the filthy ass Democrat Party and that is why our foreign policy is the laughing stock of the world nowadays.

If you really thought the Iraq War was a bad thing thing then you wouldn't do a dumbass thing like vote for The Hillary Bitch that supported the invasion, would you? However, you will vote for her in November if she has a filthy "D" by her name because you really don't have convictions on things like this, do you?

You know what, for all your frothing, the fact is, Bush was the guy who fucked up everything. Your best argument against Obama is that he didn't fix what Bush screwed up fast enough.

This country was doing fine until that shitty 2006 elected Democrat Congress with Barney Queerboy, Nancy Peloski and Harry Reid took over and then things got really screwed up. It got worse after Obama was elected President.

After seven years of Obama we have tremendous debt, increased poverty, poor economic growth, reduced family income and as we saw with the economic news this week the only jobs abvailable in the US nowadays are flipping burgers.


Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success

Barack Obama declares Iraq war a success
 
Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton
Colin Powell Blows Up Republican Email Scandal By Agreeing With Hillary Clinton | Politicus USA

Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

powell-clinton.jpg


Former Sec. of State Colin Powell is standing with Hillary Clinton after the State Department retroactively classified some of his emails and is refusing to release them to the public.

Powell reacted to an NBC News report that the State Department is retroactively classifying his emails by calling for all of his emails to be released.

Powell said, “I wish they would release them, so that a normal, air-breathing mammal would look at them and say, ‘What’s the issue?’ They were unclassified at the time, and they are, in my judgment, still unclassified.”

Clinton Email Scandal Falls Apart As State Dept. Says There Was No Policy Against Private Email | Politicus USA,

The U.S. State Department says, "There was no policy prohibiting the use of the use of a private email account here at the State Department."

Both Former Secretary of State Colin Powell and Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice used private email account during their tenure at the State Department.

That has already been proven to be a lie.

By which blogger?

Politico says it, and so does Colin Powell:


Former Secretary of State Colin Powell said the FBI has contacted him about his use of personal email when he was the nation's top diplomat, as a review conducted by the State Department inspector general concluded that Powell and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice both received classified information through private email accounts...The State Department inquiry identified 10 messages sent to Rice's immediate staff that were classified and two sent to Powell, according to Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the ranking member on the House Oversight and Benghazi committees. The emails, Cummings said, appear to have no classification markings, and it is still unclear if the content of the emails was or should have been considered classified when the emails were originally written and sent. In an interview with POLITICO Thursday. Powell vigorously disputed the sensitivity of the information sent to him through personal email, but he acknowledged the law enforcement interest in his email routine. "The FBI has come to us," Powell said. Two FBI agents visited Powell in December for a discussion an aide described as a casual conversation about email practices during his term as secretary from 2001 to 2005...Powell seemed exasperated by State's latest claim. The agency has designated the two messages "Confidential," which is the lowest tier of classification. "Now, 11 or 12 years later, as part of a whole process of reviewing things somebody in the department says, 'Well, they're classified.' My response to that is no they were not," Powell said. " You can say your judgment is they should have been classified but at the time they were not classified.
No emails were sent to Rice. Some were sent to her staff. Rice never used email.

There was not policy according the State Department.

The emails were classified after the fact.

There was means or mechanism by which Secure/Classified Emails can be passed through, transmitted to or held on an unsecure server.

The emails were not classified at the time.

You continue to ignore that.
 

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