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Don’t be fooled: Working Americans are worse off under Trump

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Robert J. Shapiro is the chairman of the advisory firm Sonecon and a senior fellow at Georgetown University’s McDonough School of Business. He was President Bill Clinton’s undersecretary of commerce for economic affairs.

Despite robust economic numbers during the Trump presidency, the American public has seemed curiously unmoved by such good news as thelowest U.S. unemployment level in nearly half a century. Its enthusiasm might have been dampened by this underappreciated economic reality: The typical working American's earnings, when properly measured, have declined during the Trump administration.

As any White House would, the president's economic team touts positive earnings data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics that suggest rising wages and salaries. But the figures are misleading. They focus not on how much an average working person earns but on the "average earnings" of all employed people. In times of rising inequality, employees at the top pull up "average" earnings. Shift to the bureau's earnings data for an average or "median" working person, and most of those claimed gains disappear. Another catch: The data used by the White House doesn't account for inflation. Adjust the median earnings data for inflation, and the illusion of progress evaporates.

Let's examine how much these technical sleights of hand distort what's happening to people's earnings. Using the White House's preferred data,average earnings rose from $894.06 in January 2017 to $937.02 in August 2018. That suggests impressive gains of $42.96 weekly over the 20-month period and $30.02 weekly over the past year. But what about median earnings rather than average earnings — that is, earnings of those in the middle of the distribution?

The Bureau of Labor Statistics has a different database for that view, and its quarter-by-quarter numbers show a very different picture. Median weekly earnings of all workers rose from $865 in the first quarter of 2017 to $876 in the quarter ending June 30, 2018. The typical working American's earnings increased $11 weekly over 18 months, barely more than one-quarter of the economic progress touted by the White House.

Even that modest gain is not very meaningful. The significance of what people earn lies in what they can do with their earnings, and inflation eats away at what any of us can purchase or save. As a result, serious earnings analysis is always framed in inflation-adjusted, or "real," terms. From January 2017 to June 2018, inflation totaled 3.77 percent, while the $11 increase in unadjusted weekly earnings over those 18 months represented gains of 1.27 percent.

To determine how much the real earnings of a typical working American fell during that period, simply adjust the $876 in median weekly earnings in the quarter ending June 30, 2018, for the 3.32 percent inflation that occurred in the 18 months from the first quarter of 2017 to that date. The result: $876 in June 2018 had the same value as $848.20 in January 2017. In real terms, the weekly earnings of a typical working American fell $16.80, or 1.9 percent, during Donald Trump's first 18 months as president.

More: Don’t be fooled: Working Americans are worse off under Trump

Yes, working Americans are worse off under Trump. Median weekly earnings increased more under President Obama. Trump's economic bragging is mostly smoke and mirrors. Oh, and what about the deficit and national debt? Trump just made the rich richer. No wonder Republicans aren't touting the big tax cuts for the upcoming elections.
 
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Robert J. Shapiro is the chairman of the advisory firm Sonecon and a senior fellow at Georgetown University’s McDonough School of Business. He was President Bill Clinton’s undersecretary of commerce for economic affairs.

Despite robust economic numbers during the Trump presidency, the American public has seemed curiously unmoved by such good news as thelowest U.S. unemployment level in nearly half a century. Its enthusiasm might have been dampened by this underappreciated economic reality: The typical working American's earnings, when properly measured, have declined during the Trump administration.

As any White House would, the president's economic team touts positive earnings data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics that suggest rising wages and salaries. But the figures are misleading. They focus not on how much an average working person earns but on the "average earnings" of all employed people. In times of rising inequality, employees at the top pull up "average" earnings. Shift to the bureau's earnings data for an average or "median" working person, and most of those claimed gains disappear. Another catch: The data used by the White House doesn't account for inflation. Adjust the median earnings data for inflation, and the illusion of progress evaporates.

Let's examine how much these technical sleights of hand distort what's happening to people's earnings. Using the White House's preferred data,average earnings rose from $894.06 in January 2017 to $937.02 in August 2018. That suggests impressive gains of $42.96 weekly over the 20-month period and $30.02 weekly over the past year. But what about median earnings rather than average earnings — that is, earnings of those in the middle of the distribution?

The Bureau of Labor Statistics has a different database for that view, and its quarter-by-quarter numbers show a very different picture. Median weekly earnings of all workers rose from $865 in the first quarter of 2017 to $876 in the quarter ending June 30, 2018. The typical working American's earnings increased $11 weekly over 18 months, barely more than one-quarter of the economic progress touted by the White House.

Even that modest gain is not very meaningful. The significance of what people earn lies in what they can do with their earnings, and inflation eats away at what any of us can purchase or save. As a result, serious earnings analysis is always framed in inflation-adjusted, or "real," terms. From January 2017 to June 2018, inflation totaled 3.77 percent, while the $11 increase in unadjusted weekly earnings over those 18 months represented gains of 1.27 percent.

To determine how much the real earnings of a typical working American fell during that period, simply adjust the $876 in median weekly earnings in the quarter ending June 30, 2018, for the 3.32 percent inflation that occurred in the 18 months from the first quarter of 2017 to that date. The result: $876 in June 2018 had the same value as $848.20 in January 2017. In real terms, the weekly earnings of a typical working American fell $16.80, or 1.9 percent, during Donald Trump's first 18 months as president.

More: Don’t be fooled: Working Americans are worse off under Trump

Median weekly earnings increased more under President Obama. Trump's economic bragging is all smoke and mirrors. Oh, and what about the deficit and national debt?


So more baby boomers are retiring big deal everyone knows it skews the stats


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Hey let's consult a "Senior Fellow" from George Washington University for a completely unbiased view of Donald Trump's economy! No economic fudge factoring here, oh no. :21:
 
As long as there as poor Mexicans to exploit, the sky is the limit. They will suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. And they will degrade themselves and risk their children to do so. So they need to be exploited. Opps, er, they those poor unwashed immigrants , we need to over extend our attention to THEM whilst ignoring own poor. Oh, American poor are trash. Who cares about American unemployed ? Those same poor Americans that wanted safe working conditions, 401ks and workman's comp, the stuff the rich elitists denied us for years? Basic working wages and basic rights. Stuff like that that illegal aliens won't and can't ask for. THAT is what Liberals call "Humanitarianism". Seems more like a cynical ploy to exploit people. This isn't communism, its cynical exploitism plain pure and simple.
 
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I'm about to have a mortgage burning party and pay off my house 23 years early thanks to Trumps economic boom that I got a great paying job under.
 
Sorry you are worse off. Wonder why? I'm NOT.

Good for you. It's not about me - I'm comfortably retired. It's about working Americans.

So you admit you have absolutely no clue what its like to be a working American under Trump yet you believe what you read from a highly biased news source?

How about this? When you're actually employed under Trump, then you can comment about what it's like to be employed under Trump.
 
Under Obama, everyone was working as a bartender or waiter. I think that things have improved.
 
Obama's economy was artificially supported by QE and zero % rates almost the whole way through. That is not his fault by the way. But, come on. Things are cruising along pretty nicely right now. When Obama is even taking credit for it, you know it is better.
 
Obama's economy was artificially supported by QE and zero % rates almost the whole way through. That is not his fault by the way. But, come on. Things are cruising along pretty nicely right now. When Obama is even taking credit for it, you know it is better.

Any fool can stimulate the economy with major tax cuts - but Trump overheated the economy at a time when it wasn't needed. The Obama economy was cruising along at a reasonable and steady upward pace since the Great Bush Recession. I hope I'm wrong, but I think there will be a big price to pay - including our current budget deficit and national debt.
 
Sorry you are worse off. Wonder why? I'm NOT.

Good for you. It's not about me - I'm comfortably retired. It's about working Americans.


Exactly

Yes, exactly.


Glad you figured out how wrong you are. Remember not to believe every slanted word you read, no matter how much you desire it to fit your agenda. :)

I have no idea what you're talking about, so I'll end communication with you. Go bait someone else. Bye...
 
Sorry you are worse off. Wonder why? I'm NOT.

Good for you. It's not about me - I'm comfortably retired. It's about working Americans.


Exactly

Yes, exactly.


Glad you figured out how wrong you are. Remember not to believe every slanted word you read, no matter how much you desire it to fit your agenda. :)

I have no idea what you're talking about, so I'll end communication with you. Go bait someone else. Bye...


;)
 
Robert J. Shapiro is the chairman of the advisory firm Sonecon and a senior fellow at Georgetown University’s McDonough School of Business. He was President Bill Clinton’s undersecretary of commerce for economic affairs.

Despite robust economic numbers during the Trump presidency, the American public has seemed curiously unmoved by such good news as thelowest U.S. unemployment level in nearly half a century. Its enthusiasm might have been dampened by this underappreciated economic reality: The typical working American's earnings, when properly measured, have declined during the Trump administration.

As any White House would, the president's economic team touts positive earnings data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics that suggest rising wages and salaries. But the figures are misleading. They focus not on how much an average working person earns but on the "average earnings" of all employed people. In times of rising inequality, employees at the top pull up "average" earnings. Shift to the bureau's earnings data for an average or "median" working person, and most of those claimed gains disappear. Another catch: The data used by the White House doesn't account for inflation. Adjust the median earnings data for inflation, and the illusion of progress evaporates.

Let's examine how much these technical sleights of hand distort what's happening to people's earnings. Using the White House's preferred data,average earnings rose from $894.06 in January 2017 to $937.02 in August 2018. That suggests impressive gains of $42.96 weekly over the 20-month period and $30.02 weekly over the past year. But what about median earnings rather than average earnings — that is, earnings of those in the middle of the distribution?

The Bureau of Labor Statistics has a different database for that view, and its quarter-by-quarter numbers show a very different picture. Median weekly earnings of all workers rose from $865 in the first quarter of 2017 to $876 in the quarter ending June 30, 2018. The typical working American's earnings increased $11 weekly over 18 months, barely more than one-quarter of the economic progress touted by the White House.

Even that modest gain is not very meaningful. The significance of what people earn lies in what they can do with their earnings, and inflation eats away at what any of us can purchase or save. As a result, serious earnings analysis is always framed in inflation-adjusted, or "real," terms. From January 2017 to June 2018, inflation totaled 3.77 percent, while the $11 increase in unadjusted weekly earnings over those 18 months represented gains of 1.27 percent.

To determine how much the real earnings of a typical working American fell during that period, simply adjust the $876 in median weekly earnings in the quarter ending June 30, 2018, for the 3.32 percent inflation that occurred in the 18 months from the first quarter of 2017 to that date. The result: $876 in June 2018 had the same value as $848.20 in January 2017. In real terms, the weekly earnings of a typical working American fell $16.80, or 1.9 percent, during Donald Trump's first 18 months as president.

More: Don’t be fooled: Working Americans are worse off under Trump

Yes, working Americans are worse off under Trump. Median weekly earnings increased more under President Obama. Trump's economic bragging is mostly smoke and mirrors. Oh, and what about the deficit and national debt? Trump just made the rich richer. No wonder Republicans aren't touting the big tax cuts for the upcoming elections.
Believe the democrats. That extra money in your wallet is just a figment of your imagination. :290968001256257790-final:
 
Robert J. Shapiro is the chairman of the advisory firm Sonecon and a senior fellow at Georgetown University’s McDonough School of Business. He was President Bill Clinton’s undersecretary of commerce for economic affairs.

Despite robust economic numbers during the Trump presidency, the American public has seemed curiously unmoved by such good news as thelowest U.S. unemployment level in nearly half a century. Its enthusiasm might have been dampened by this underappreciated economic reality: The typical working American's earnings, when properly measured, have declined during the Trump administration.

As any White House would, the president's economic team touts positive earnings data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics that suggest rising wages and salaries. But the figures are misleading. They focus not on how much an average working person earns but on the "average earnings" of all employed people. In times of rising inequality, employees at the top pull up "average" earnings. Shift to the bureau's earnings data for an average or "median" working person, and most of those claimed gains disappear. Another catch: The data used by the White House doesn't account for inflation. Adjust the median earnings data for inflation, and the illusion of progress evaporates.

Let's examine how much these technical sleights of hand distort what's happening to people's earnings. Using the White House's preferred data,average earnings rose from $894.06 in January 2017 to $937.02 in August 2018. That suggests impressive gains of $42.96 weekly over the 20-month period and $30.02 weekly over the past year. But what about median earnings rather than average earnings — that is, earnings of those in the middle of the distribution?

The Bureau of Labor Statistics has a different database for that view, and its quarter-by-quarter numbers show a very different picture. Median weekly earnings of all workers rose from $865 in the first quarter of 2017 to $876 in the quarter ending June 30, 2018. The typical working American's earnings increased $11 weekly over 18 months, barely more than one-quarter of the economic progress touted by the White House.

Even that modest gain is not very meaningful. The significance of what people earn lies in what they can do with their earnings, and inflation eats away at what any of us can purchase or save. As a result, serious earnings analysis is always framed in inflation-adjusted, or "real," terms. From January 2017 to June 2018, inflation totaled 3.77 percent, while the $11 increase in unadjusted weekly earnings over those 18 months represented gains of 1.27 percent.

To determine how much the real earnings of a typical working American fell during that period, simply adjust the $876 in median weekly earnings in the quarter ending June 30, 2018, for the 3.32 percent inflation that occurred in the 18 months from the first quarter of 2017 to that date. The result: $876 in June 2018 had the same value as $848.20 in January 2017. In real terms, the weekly earnings of a typical working American fell $16.80, or 1.9 percent, during Donald Trump's first 18 months as president.

More: Don’t be fooled: Working Americans are worse off under Trump

Yes, working Americans are worse off under Trump. Median weekly earnings increased more under President Obama. Trump's economic bragging is mostly smoke and mirrors. Oh, and what about the deficit and national debt? Trump just made the rich richer. No wonder Republicans aren't touting the big tax cuts for the upcoming elections.
Believe the democrats. That extra money in your wallet is just a figment of your imagination. :290968001256257790-final:

Well, I look forward to Republicans campaigning on that for the midterms.
 

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