DOW Closing In On 25,000.Who Will Dems/Liberals/Liberal Hosts Give All Credit To?

Obama of course... then ask them what Obama policies caused it. You'll get nothing. In all fairness, most economic upturns are just cyclical.
 
Soggy in NOLA said:
Obama of course... then ask them what Obama policies caused it. You'll get nothing. In all fairness, most economic upturns are just cyclical.
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True, SoggyBrain........Because Obama's saving of the auto industry and the prevention of a banking meltdown has NO impact on the DOW, correct???

(go play with yourself.....LOL)
 
nat4900 said:
Soggy in NOLA said:
Obama of course... then ask them what Obama policies caused it. You'll get nothing. In all fairness, most economic upturns are just cyclical.
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True, SoggyBrain........Because Obama's saving of the auto industry and the prevention of a banking meltdown has NO impact on the DOW, correct???

(go play with yourself.....LOL)
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Uhm, GM still has $100,000,000 in unfunded pension liabilities. And now you're in love with the stick market and banks? The can was just kicked down the road.
 
SmokeALib said:
Leave this thread for people who actually have jobs. Thanks.
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True......Maybe some of the dozens of attorneys that the Trump syndicate has been forced to hire will join this thread????..........LOL
 
The Derp said:
healthmyths said:
And which is a bigger starting number?
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It doesn't fucking matter when you're looking at the % of growth, you joke.
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Right... so growing the GDP by 10% is just the same as growing the GDP by 2%?
What a numbskull! No wonder people like you are so ignorant!
A starting point of 19,732 is over 2.4 times larger than a starting point of 7,949
Definitely not an equal comparison when all Obama had to do is add 899 points versus Trump's economy added nearly twice the points!
 
The Derp said:
Meathead said:
healthmyths said:
The Derp said:
hadit said:
Of course it's easy to pick the first year, because the percent change is greatest right after a recession when confidence is returning to the markets. Why not pick the first 6 months?
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So here's a perfect example of what Conservatives always do; when confronted with the realities that the numbers don't match their bragging, they try to redefine the parameters of what's being measured or discussed in order to cast themselves in a favorable light. But funny thing is, even doing that you're still fucking wrong.

1/20/09: 7,949.09
7/20/09: 8,848.15
+ 11%

1/20/17: 19,732.40
7/20/17: 21,612.00
+ 10%

Is 11% > or < 10%?
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And which is a bigger starting number?
19,732 or 7,949?
The difference in growth from 7,949 to 8,848 is 899 points difference.
While the difference in growth from 19,732 to 21,612 is 1,880 points growth!
Over a 200% difference in growth. When you start increasing a 200% differntial it is a little more difficult.
Plus it helps if you are PRO Business as Trump is versus Obama who well let his words speak for him!
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They don't do math. They can't.
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Trump grew the market by a smaller % than Obama did.

Trump created the fewest jobs since 2012.
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Obama added over $9 trillion to the national debt with starters TARP which by the way was PAID BACK and he still added $9 trillion!
PLUS Obama had over $5 trillion in QE1,2,3 added to the economy which added to the national debt to bolster the DJI!
 
healthmyths said:
Right... so growing the GDP by 10% is just the same as growing the GDP by 2%?
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No. What the fuck are you talking about? It seems like your strategy is to obfuscate by vomiting up random numbers so you can avoid admitting that Trump's just not that great.



healthmyths said:
What a numbskull! No wonder people like you are so ignorant!
A starting point of 19,732 is over 2.4 times larger than a starting point of 7,949
Definitely not an equal comparison when all Obama had to do is add 899 points versus Trump's economy added nearly twice the points!
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Well, you don't seem to understand how growth is calculated because you don't know math or ratios or proportions. I'll help you out:

1/20/09: 7,949.09
7/20/09: 8,848.15
8,848.15 - 7,949.09 = 899.06
899.06 / 7,949.09 = 11% growth

1/20/17: 19,732.40
7/20/17: 21,612.00
21,612.00 - 19,732.40 = 1,879.6
1,879.6 / 19,732.40 = 10% growth
 
healthmyths said:
Obama added over $9 trillion to the national debt with starters TARP which by the way was PAID BACK and he still added $9 trillion!PLUS Obama had over $5 trillion in QE1,2,3 added to the economy which added to the national debt to bolster the DJI!
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For that $9T we got:
  • 11.7M private sector jobs created
  • A 103-month bull market that grew 140%
  • The lowest rate of uninsured ever
  • 75+ consecutive months of positive job creation dating back to the month the ACA was signed
  • Net positive wage growth (wages declined during Bush the Dumber)
Now, I don't understand why you screech about debt, but then have no problem adding at least $1.5T to the debt for tax cuts that you don't even benefit from?
 
The Derp said:
healthmyths said:
Right... so growing the GDP by 10% is just the same as growing the GDP by 2%?
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No. What the fuck are you talking about? It seems like your strategy is to obfuscate by vomiting up random numbers so you can avoid admitting that Trump's just not that great.



healthmyths said:
What a numbskull! No wonder people like you are so ignorant!
A starting point of 19,732 is over 2.4 times larger than a starting point of 7,949
Definitely not an equal comparison when all Obama had to do is add 899 points versus Trump's economy added nearly twice the points!
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Well, you don't seem to understand how growth is calculated because you don't know math or ratios or proportions. I'll help you out:

1/20/09: 7,949.09
7/20/09: 8,848.15
8,848.15 - 7,949.09 = 899.06
899.06 / 7,949.09 = 11% growth

1/20/17: 19,732.40
7/20/17: 21,612.00
21,612.00 - 19,732.40 = 1,879.6
1,879.6 / 19,732.40 = 10% growth
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Yet, Trump doubled the growth (points) based on your numbers...and healthmyths doesn't understand math or ratios...LOL.
 
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