Duggar sisters on deflection tour, break cringe-meter

[Dot Com]

my beef is with the parents giving the ok for their publicists to trot those poor girls out there. Sad, sad, SAD!!! You know its all about their ability to cash-in more in the future as well. How christian.

 

[Vandalshandle]

A licensed professional practicing psychiatrist.

A

A licensed professional practicing psychiatrist.

A licensed professional practicing psychiatrist.

He was sent to a non denominational christian counciling center called IBLP (institution for basic life principles ) located in Arkansas.

Can I assume that these people have professional psychiatric certifications?

Don't know what kind of credentials they have but I do know they do offer programs for the county, state and federal government related to inmates that are incarcerated and they offer medical and health training.

So, you might say that it is sort of like going to a Christian Science Reading Room for consultations on cancer treatment.

You claiming there are no christian councilors,therapists,programs and organizations that are not only recommended and utilized by the government... But also covered by most insurance providers?

Having spent my 50 year career as mid and high level management in health insurance and HMO companies, yes, I am making that very claim. Among my responsibilities was to write group health insurance contracts, and I assure you that no counseling services are eligible for coverage under health contracts that are not credentialed by their professional medical or psychiatric credentialing organizations.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I'll go even further. Insurers limit reimbursement for mental health care providers who are a psychiatrist, , or other doctor, clinical psychiatrist, nurse practitioner, physician assistant, clinical nurse specialist, or clinical social worker, all of whom must be certified, and licensed by the state and approved and certified by their respective peer group associations.

 

[ChrisL]

I don't know why some people feel the need to vigorously defend this weird family??? Is it because they are religious so people automatically assume that they must be perfect or something? I also don't understand the need of the left to condemn them. Again, they are human beings and are certainly not perfect. Josh was just a child himself, when these alleged events occurred. It's certainly not impossible that this was an experimentation type of thing on his part, as he was quite young himself. It doesn't automatically make him a pedophile. Yes, the parents should have taken him to get professional help because this was a serious situation, and they (not being licensed psychiatrists) cannot know if this is a deep-seated issue or just an experimental type of thing. The parents failed here, but then hindsight is 20/20, and it's always easier to judge when it's not you in that particular situation. I'm sure they were also probably afraid that their son might go to prison or something like that.

 

[Dot Com]

cashing-in on monotheism its the fundie way

 

[Luddly Neddite]

BlueGin

Bill Gothard Quits Institute He Founded After Allegations of Rampant Sexual Harassment; Cites Bible Passage on 'Reconciliation'

Yeah ...and he was investigated and forced to retire. Kinda like Bill Clinton. The organization is still in operation.

Bill Clinton was "forced to retire"??

That's the funniest thing you said so far.

Desperate much?

Investigated and impeached.

But then you knew that , and are just playing dumb. Although ...with as much incorrect spam as you post... Maybe your not "playing".

BlueGin

Yes.

But of course, that is not what you said.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

my beef is with the parents giving the ok for their publicists to trot those poor girls out there. Sad, sad, SAD!!! You know its all about their ability to cash-in more in the future as well. How christian.

While he cowers behind them.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

i wonder how long before this story falls off the radar. more important issues to discuss. Like Hillary!

Sorry you can't handle more than one subject at a time. It may help you if you leave this thread and go start one lying about Hillary.

Personally, I believe the welfare of children to be one of, if not the most important issue to our society. Or at least, it should me. IMO.

And yet, we're allowed to kill them in their momma's womb.

 

[BlueGin]

I'll go even further. Insurers limit reimbursement for mental health care providers who are a psychiatrist, , or other doctor, clinical psychiatrist, nurse practitioner, physician assistant, clinical nurse specialist, or clinical social worker, all of whom must be certified, and licensed by the state and approved and certified by their respective peer group associations.

The county,state and federal government use this organizations programs for inmate rehabilitation. Yet ...libs want to claim it is an invalid outlet for the Duggar's just because they say so.

Mmmm hmmm.

 

[BlueGin]

He was sent to a non denominational christian counciling center called IBLP (institution for basic life principles ) located in Arkansas.

Can I assume that these people have professional psychiatric certifications?

Don't know what kind of credentials they have but I do know they do offer programs for the county, state and federal government related to inmates that are incarcerated and they offer medical and health training.

So, you might say that it is sort of like going to a Christian Science Reading Room for consultations on cancer treatment.

You claiming there are no christian councilors,therapists,programs and organizations that are not only recommended and utilized by the government... But also covered by most insurance providers?

Having spent my 50 year career as mid and high level management in health insurance and HMO companies, yes, I am making that very claim. Among my responsibilities was to write group health insurance contracts, and I assure you that no counseling services are eligible for coverage under health contracts that are not credentialed by their professional medical or psychiatric credentialing organizations.

Yes there are. Infact in my state a health organization founded by a Presbyterian church runs Medicaid. Another mental health facility here that deals with patients with bipolar disorder is run by a Lutheran church and is excepted by BCBS , Cigna and PHP. These are just examples. So... You are not correct.

 

[BlueGin]

i wonder how long before this story falls off the radar. more important issues to discuss. Like Hillary!

Sorry you can't handle more than one subject at a time. It may help you if you leave this thread and go start one lying about Hillary.

Personally, I believe the welfare of children to be one of, if not the most important issue to our society. Or at least, it should me. IMO.

And yet, we're allowed to kill them in their momma's womb.

Most desired outcome by the left infact.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

i wonder how long before this story falls off the radar. more important issues to discuss. Like Hillary!

Sorry you can't handle more than one subject at a time. It may help you if you leave this thread and go start one lying about Hillary.

Personally, I believe the welfare of children to be one of, if not the most important issue to our society. Or at least, it should me. IMO.

And yet, we're allowed to kill them in their momma's womb.

Most desired outcome by the left infact.

Left says: Make love, not war. Unless you're related.

Right says: Make war, not love. Unless you're related.

 

[BlueGin]

I don't know why some people feel the need to vigorously defend this weird family??? Is it because they are religious so people automatically assume that they must be perfect or something? I also don't understand the need of the left to condemn them. Again, they are human beings and are certainly not perfect. Josh was just a child himself, when these alleged events occurred. It's certainly not impossible that this was an experimentation type of thing on his part, as he was quite young himself. It doesn't automatically make him a pedophile. Yes, the parents should have taken him to get professional help because this was a serious situation, and they (not being licensed psychiatrists) cannot know if this is a deep-seated issue or just an experimental type of thing. The parents failed here, but then hindsight is 20/20, and it's always easier to judge when it's not you in that particular situation. I'm sure they were also probably afraid that their son might go to prison or something like that.

Same reason people vigorously try to demonize them ( and anyone else they don't agree with )with misinformation and outright lies.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I'll go even further. Insurers limit reimbursement for mental health care providers who are a psychiatrist, , or other doctor, clinical psychiatrist, nurse practitioner, physician assistant, clinical nurse specialist, or clinical social worker, all of whom must be certified, and licensed by the state and approved and certified by their respective peer group associations.

The county,state and federal government use this organizations programs for inmate rehabilitation. Yet ...libs want to claim it is an invalid outlet for the Duggar's just because they say so.

Mmmm hmmm.

Can I assume that these people have professional psychiatric certifications?

Don't know what kind of credentials they have but I do know they do offer programs for the county, state and federal government related to inmates that are incarcerated and they offer medical and health training.

So, you might say that it is sort of like going to a Christian Science Reading Room for consultations on cancer treatment.

You claiming there are no christian councilors,therapists,programs and organizations that are not only recommended and utilized by the government... But also covered by most insurance providers?

Having spent my 50 year career as mid and high level management in health insurance and HMO companies, yes, I am making that very claim. Among my responsibilities was to write group health insurance contracts, and I assure you that no counseling services are eligible for coverage under health contracts that are not credentialed by their professional medical or psychiatric credentialing organizations.

Yes there are. Infact in my state a health organization founded by a Presbyterian church runs Medicaid. Another mental health facility here that deals with patients with bipolar disorder is run by a Lutheran church and is excepted by BCBS , Cigna and PHP. These are just examples. So... You are not correct.

So, is St. Jude Children's Hospital run by St. Jude? He must be getting kind of long in the tooth!

 

[Dana7360]

I was amused how the sisters blamed the media for making their lives miserable over what they considered a "closed issue". And how do I know this? Because they agreed to tell the media all about how the media is making their lives miserable. Somewhere in all this, I see reflections of Palin!

Their entire LIVES are in the media!

Yes it is. Only because the duggars put their entire lives in the media by having a reality show about their lives on TV for several years.

If you want your privacy then you don't open your family up to TV cameras and star in a reality show about your family.

 

[peach174]

my beef is with the parents giving the ok for their publicists to trot those poor girls out there. Sad, sad, SAD!!! You know its all about their ability to cash-in more in the future as well. How christian.

The two sisters are adults and don't need the Ok of their parents.

 

[peach174]

I'll go even further. Insurers limit reimbursement for mental health care providers who are a psychiatrist, , or other doctor, clinical psychiatrist, nurse practitioner, physician assistant, clinical nurse specialist, or clinical social worker, all of whom must be certified, and licensed by the state and approved and certified by their respective peer group associations.

The county,state and federal government use this organizations programs for inmate rehabilitation. Yet ...libs want to claim it is an invalid outlet for the Duggar's just because they say so.

Mmmm hmmm.

Yes and they also have facilities all over the world like New Zealand and Japan.

 

[Vandalshandle]

I'll go even further. Insurers limit reimbursement for mental health care providers who are a psychiatrist, , or other doctor, clinical psychiatrist, nurse practitioner, physician assistant, clinical nurse specialist, or clinical social worker, all of whom must be certified, and licensed by the state and approved and certified by their respective peer group associations.

The county,state and federal government use this organizations programs for inmate rehabilitation. Yet ...libs want to claim it is an invalid outlet for the Duggar's just because they say so.

Mmmm hmmm.

Yes and they also have facilities all over the world like New Zealand and Japan.

I don't give a rat's ass about Japan. It is flat out wrong to claim that any American insurance company or HMO is going to reimburse any counseling or mental health provider which is not fully licensed by the state and certified in good standing by medical provider peer accreditation associations. And, I will give you a hint. No Christian Association is going to be reimbursed by a health insurer or HMO without those medical and psychiatric accreditations., no matter how much you may wish it were so.

 

[Dot Com]

I'll go even further. Insurers limit reimbursement for mental health care providers who are a psychiatrist, , or other doctor, clinical psychiatrist, nurse practitioner, physician assistant, clinical nurse specialist, or clinical social worker, all of whom must be certified, and licensed by the state and approved and certified by their respective peer group associations.

The county,state and federal government use this organizations programs for inmate rehabilitation. Yet ...libs want to claim it is an invalid outlet for the Duggar's just because they say so.

Mmmm hmmm.

Yes and they also have facilities all over the world like New Zealand and Japan.

I don't give a rat's ass about Japan. It is flat out wrong to claim that any American insurance company or HMO is going to reimburse any counseling or mental health provider which is not fully licensed by the state and certified in good standing by medical provider peer accreditation associations. And, I will give you a hint. No Christian Association is going to be reimbursed by a health insurer or HMO without those medical and psychiatric accreditations., no matter how much you may wish it were so.

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[Vandalshandle]

if you lived in India, Mother Theresa would have treated you for your illness, but Blue Cross sure as hell would not have paid her to do it.