Zone1 Each Day of Creation was 1000 of our current years

[onefour1]

The Apostle Peter teaches us the following:

2 Peter 3:8
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

After going through the seven days of creation, the Lord placed Adam and Eve into the garden of Eden and gave them the following command regarding the tree of the knowledge of good and evil:

Genesis 2:15-17
15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

How do we know that Adam and Eve were still under the Lord's time and not the reckoning of time that we have now? The proof is in how long Adam lived before he died.

Genesis 5:5
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

So if the Lord God was telling the truth when he told Adam, "for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.", then Adam should have died in the very day that he partook of the forbidden fruit. But we see in Genesis 5:5 that Adam died when he was 930 years old. So did God lie? No. Adam had not yet received his time of reckoning until after he had partaken of the forbidden fruit. Before that time, all things were reckoned according to the Lord's time. Thus each day of creation was 1000 years of our time and when Adam died, he died within one day of the Lord's time which is 1000 of our years. Therefore Adam did die on the very day that he partook of the forbidden fruit as God had told him. It was simply according to God's time which is 1 day = 1000 years of our current time of reckoning.

 

[braalian]

If you’re just going to randomly change the meanings of words in the Bible, why not just say “chair” means “bread” or “sky” means “shoe”?

A year is a year. The “a day with the lord is as a thousand years” is *obviously* not meant to be taken literally.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

If you’re just going to randomly change the meanings of words in the Bible, why not just say “chair” means “bread” or “sky” means “shoe”?

A year is a year. The “a day with the lord is as a thousand years” is *obviously* not meant to be taken literally.

Yep. As you get on in years, you should understand this.

If I say, 1990 was just "yesterday" that doesn't mean it was actually yesterday. But the time went by for me as if it were.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Therefore Adam did die on the very day that he partook of the forbidden fruit as God had told him

He was as good as dead the day he sinned. His death was SET on that day.

 

[onefour1]

If you’re just going to randomly change the meanings of words in the Bible, why not just say “chair” means “bread” or “sky” means “shoe”?

A year is a year. The “a day with the lord is as a thousand years” is *obviously* not meant to be taken literally.

What does it mean figuratively to you?

2 Peter 3:8
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

 

[onefour1]

He was as good as dead the day he sinned. His death was SET on that day.

"for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." The seeds of death were planted in him at the time he partook of the forbidden fruit but it wasn't until 930 years later later he finally dies.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

"for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." The seeds of death were planted in him at the time he partook of the forbidden fruit but it wasn't until 930 years later later he finally dies.

Yes. Are you starting to understand now?
Adam wasn't supposed to die. But he made a choice that was to determine his fate and the fate of all Mankind.

THAT DAY he "chose" to take the route that would result in his death

 

[onefour1]

We get a day from the rotation of the earth upon its axis in relation to the sun. But during the first 3 days of creation there was no sun in relation to the earth. On the 4th day of creation the earth was placed in relation to the sun and other lights in the sky. So obviously a day wasn't exactly what we have today. There is no evidence that the earth had its same rotation speed or even was rotating before being placed in its current relation to the sun. Obviously there was another source of light upon the earth during those first 3 days of creation. The days were being counted according to that other source of light from the start. The other source of light through which days were being counted likely was not taken away until after the creation and it was according to that light that days were counted.

The Apostle Peter says that you should not be ignorant of that one thing. That one thing is that a day to the Lord is as 1000 of our years. The creation of the earth was done according to what a day was unto the Lord. This is why the 1000 year millennium that is to come will be a sabbath day unto to the earth.

 

[Clyde 154]

The simple answer is revealed in Scripture. Until Adam and Eve accessed the "tree of knowledge".........one could not be held accountable for sin until one acquired the knowledge to determine right from wrong........i.e, being capable of comprehending the LAW that defines sin. (the reason that the Christ declared the kingdom of God to little children -- Matthew 18:3)

When sin entered the world there was only "1" law, "thou shall not eat of the tree of good and evil.....the tree of knowledge". (Genesis 2:17) How did God know they had eaten from the tree of knowledge? Adam and Eve attempted to hide their nakedness from God (Genesis 3:9) Before Adam attempted to hide from God........He had no knowledge of good and evil or his shame of being naked.

"Therefore, just as though one man (Adam) sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus, sin spread to all men. (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed (not held responsible) when there is no law." -- Romans 5:12-13.

Adam did not comprehend that God's Law existed before acquiring the knowledge to comprehend that he had broken the only law that God defined, thus He attempted to hide from God when he comprehended that actual consequences of his actions. There was no remedy for sin at that time....but God had a plan that would save mankind from sin......even before the worlds were created or time itself began (1 Peter 1:20, 2 Tim. 1:9).....through Jesus Christ, as the blood of Christ flows backward as well as forward......Jesus went to preach to the souls in Hades (the resting place of the dead awaiting final judgment -- Luke 16)

 

[Faun]

Each Day of Creation was 1000 of our current years

That can't be. Adam was created on tbe 6th day but died after the 7th day. That would have made him over 1000 years when he died but the Bible says he lived to 930.

 

[Faun]

We get a day from the rotation of the earth upon its axis in relation to the sun. But during the first 3 days of creation there was no sun in relation to the earth.

Not according to the Bible. The Bible says light was created on the first day. That would be the sun. Also on the first day there was night and day. That would be the Earth rotating.

Day one.

 

[Clyde 154]

Not according to the Bible. The Bible says light was created on the first day. That would be the sun. Also on the first day there was night and day. That would be the Earth rotating.

Day one.

Hardly the truth. The light mentioned in Genesis 1 on the first day is not from any celestial body such as the sun or the moon (which were not created by the Godhead, in specific Jesus Christ until Day 4).........the LIGHT was Jesus Christ, the light of the world, the essence of the Godhead being light itself that makes darkness recede/retreat. (1 John 1:6-7, John 8:12..........there are 64 verses that define Jesus as the light of the world. Jesus was the creator of the world ( John 1:3, 10, 1 Cor. 8:6, Col. 1:16, Hebrews 1:2) The Godhead spoke light into existence........until the natural lights were created. That word was Jesus Christ, the creator of everything that is natural (John chapter 1, Hebrews 1:2)

 

[Faun]

Hardly the truth. The light mentioned in Genesis 1 on the first day is not from any celestial body such as the sun or the moon (which were not created by the Godhead, in specific Jesus Christ until Day 4).........the LIGHT was Jesus Christ, the light of the world, the essence of the Godhead being light itself that makes darkness recede/retreat. (1 John 1:6-7, John 8:12..........there are 64 verses that define Jesus as the light of the world. Jesus was the creator of the world ( John 1:3, 10, 1 Cor. 8:6, Col. 1:16, Hebrews 1:2) The Godhead spoke light into existence........until the natural lights were created. That word was Jesus Christ, the creator of everything that is natural (John chapter 1, Hebrews 1:2)

Not at all true. G-d called the light, "day," and the dark, "night."

Day and night is a day, not Jesus.

 

[onefour1]

Not according to the Bible. The Bible says light was created on the first day. That would be the sun. Also on the first day there was night and day. That would be the Earth rotating.

Day one.

Yes, lets read the Bible:

Genesis 1:14-19
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

These were the events of the 4th day of creation. Here God creates the sun, moon, and stars. Not until the 4th day of creation did he place them in the firmament according to verse 17. Thus the sun, moon and stars were not in their current relation to the earth until the 4th day. True, God did pronounce there to be light upon the earth from the first day of creation but does not tell us what that source of light was.

The Apostle Peter tells us that with God, one day is as a thousand years of our time. We were not even given our time of reckoning when creation started and I suggest that even though the sun and moon were brought in relation to the earth on the 4th day of creation, Adam and Eve were not given their time of reckoning until after they had partaken of the forbidden fruit.

2 Peter 3:8
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

So, when God said to Adam that if he partook of the forbidden fruit, in the day he were to partake of it he would surely die, it was after the Lord's time. We know that Adam died according to our time at 930 years of age. If we are to assume that the days of creation and God's curse for eating the forbidden fruit was after our time, then God would have been a liar since Adam did not die the very day he partook of the fruit according to our time.

Genesis 2:17
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Genesis 5;5
5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

Did God lie? Or as Peter teaches us that one day to God is as a thousand of our years? If Peter is right, then Adam truly died within one day according to the Lord's time of reckoning and God did not lie.

 

[JustAGuy1]

The Word "die" there refers to "Spiritual" death. What is "Spiritual" death? Separation from God. What happened when Adam partook? They were driven out of the Garden. "Spiritual death", separation from God.

 

[onefour1]

The Word "die" there refers to "Spiritual" death. What is "Spiritual" death? Separation from God. What happened when Adam partook? They were driven out of the Garden. "Spiritual death", separation from God.

I believe it was both a spiritual and physical death. But you are right that it was definitely a spiritual death as well.

 

[Clyde 154]

Not at all true. G-d called the light, "day," and the dark, "night."

Day and night is a day, not Jesus.

"God said, "Let there be light......and there was light". This totally agrees with John 1 that defines Jesus Christ as the Word that created/spoke light into existence (John 1:3, 10)

"For by Him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven and earth, VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE......all things were created by Him, and for Him."-- Col. 1:16

There is nothing mentioned about the Sun or the Moon being created on the first day. God simply defined light as representing day and darkness representing night, and the evening and the morning was the first day. Before light was spoken into existence, "....darkness was upon the face of the waters..."

God is simply representing light with sight and darkness with an absence of light. The Earth was created as a sphere (Isa. 40:22)......logically the earth can't be in total light......but it can be in total darkness with the absence of light. The first thing to be created/formed was LIGHT. The period of light was called day .........the period of darkness was called night. This suggests nothing but movement on part of the created matter....i.e., ROTATION. As proven there is "NO SOURCE" for light mentioned on the first day, the sun, the moon and the stars were not created, formed until day 4.

Think about your logic or the lack thereof.........you are suggesting that the BIG BANG could not possibly produce light because the stars, and solid matter was not yet created. All it takes for light to exist is a source of energy....as stated, the light was spoken into existence by the essence of the Godhead's energy.

 

[Clyde 154]

Each Day of Creation was 1000 of our current years

That can't be. Adam was created on tbe 6th day but died after the 7th day. That would have made him over 1000 years when he died but the Bible says he lived to 930.

The scriptures declare that "you (Adam) shall surely die.....if you eat of the tree of knowledge.......there is no mention of when he would die or how long his appointed days would be. The Scriptures define Adam's age when he died as being over 800 years...as he was having children at the age of 800 .........centuries after Cain and Able were born........Adam was 120 when he and eve had another son called Seth. The scriptures do not detail how many children they had together, it simply states that Adam had "Sons" and "Daughters". (Genesis 5:3-4).

The scriptures detail the fact that the average age for mankind gradually decreased.......generation by generation. By the time of Abraham a man's day's were limited to 175 years (Genesis 25:7-8). Today the scriptures limit a life time average being 3 Score and 10.......about 70 years. (Ps. 90:10)

And the scriptures explain......why mankind was sentenced to die. For the sin of eating form the tree of knowledge.....their punishment was banishment from the Garden of Eden, a place that contained the TREE OF LIFE. "Then the Lord said, "the man has become like one of us (the Godhead)......to know good and evil. Now, least he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, eat and live forever......therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he was taken. So He (the Lord God) drove out the man and He placed a Cherubim at the east of the garden, and a flaming sword turned every way to guard the tree of life." -- Genesis 3:22-24

 

[onefour1]

Each Day of Creation was 1000 of our current years

That can't be. Adam was created on tbe 6th day but died after the 7th day. That would have made him over 1000 years when he died but the Bible says he lived to 930.

Even though Adam was created on the 6th day, he was immortal at the time. They didn't start counting his age until after the fall. He lived 930 years after the fall and after Adam was given his time of reckoning.

 

[Clyde 154]

Even though Adam was created on the 6th day, he was immortal at the time. They didn't start counting his age until after the fall. He lived 930 years after the fall and after Adam was given his time of reckoning.

The only way you can get 1000 from each day is to apply Signified Scripture as being Literal scripture.......no where in the book of Genesis is 1000 years mentioned per each day.......in fact, a day is defined as a cycle of day and night in the very first chapter. Other Literal passages of scripture declare that Adam and Eve were created in the "Beginning......." not thousands of years after the beginning. Example: Matthew 19:4, Mark 10:6.

If each day literally represented an expanded time table.....such as each day being 1000 years........Houston, you have a problem: that means plants were created 3000 years (day 3) after creation began, yet it would have had to exist for 1000 years without the ability to pollinate or reproduce.....why? Because the insects that carry the pollen were not created until 1000s of years later.

How about the life span of Adam......which the scriptures declare was over 900 years? If Adam was created on the last day of creation the 6th day that represented, 1000s, millions or billions of years.......Adam, at the very least would have had to have lived 2000 years to exist after the last day of creation (day 6 and day 7)......a literal contradiction from the age mentioned in scripture (930 years) -- Genesis 5:5

You either believe and accept God at His word.....as having the ability to speak creation into existence by the very authority of His stated Omnipotence, Omniscience, and Omnipresence........or you are buying into falsehoods.

Peter does not say that 1000 years is equal to 1 day.........Peter declares, the longsuffering of God in keeping His promises. Time has no meaning to God.........as Jesus existed before the world's were created or time itself began (1 Peter 1:20, 2 Tim. 1:9). What did Peter actually say about 1000 years? He says, "One day is like (LIKE:signified/symbolic) a 1000 years.....to who? God" -- 2 Peter 3:8