Ehrlichman: War on "Drugs" A Scam to Persecute Blacks and antiwar protesters

[Contumacious]

War on drugs' was a sinister conspiracy to go after anti-war protesters and black people, according to president Nixon's domestic policy chief

• A decades-old interview with John Ehrlichman, President Richard Nixon's domestic policy chief, reveals the 'War on Drugs' targeted black people
• The policy also targeted anti-war protesters in the Nixon years
• Harper's Magazine originally ran the interview in 1994, five years before Ehrlichman died in 1999
• Dan Baum, the journalist who originally interviewed Ehrlichman, recently revisited the interview in Harper's

.

true.... so we can agree that the war on drugs and the criminal justice system need to be overhauled?

Nope , ABOLISHED,

.

 

[thereisnospoon]

War on drugs' was a sinister conspiracy to go after anti-war protesters and black people, according to president Nixon's domestic policy chief

• A decades-old interview with John Ehrlichman, President Richard Nixon's domestic policy chief, reveals the 'War on Drugs' targeted black people
• The policy also targeted anti-war protesters in the Nixon years
• Harper's Magazine originally ran the interview in 1994, five years before Ehrlichman died in 1999
• Dan Baum, the journalist who originally interviewed Ehrlichman, recently revisited the interview in Harper's

.

true.... so we can agree that the war on drugs and the criminal justice system need to be overhauled?

Nope , ABOLISHED,

.

Ok..With that irrational statement, you've just blown up your own thread.
Christ....

 

[Contumacious]

War on drugs' was a sinister conspiracy to go after anti-war protesters and black people, according to president Nixon's domestic policy chief

• A decades-old interview with John Ehrlichman, President Richard Nixon's domestic policy chief, reveals the 'War on Drugs' targeted black people
• The policy also targeted anti-war protesters in the Nixon years
• Harper's Magazine originally ran the interview in 1994, five years before Ehrlichman died in 1999
• Dan Baum, the journalist who originally interviewed Ehrlichman, recently revisited the interview in Harper's

.

true.... so we can agree that the war on drugs and the criminal justice system need to be overhauled?

Nope , ABOLISHED,

.

Ok..With that irrational statement, you've just blown up your own thread.
Christ....

Dingle Berry,

Read the Ninth Amendment then and ONLY the repost

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

Everything starts as a temporary action. That's how we got income tax also.

Actually, everything starts as a racist action - many politicians were angered when white girls in California were found in Chinese opium dens.

The Harrison Act of 1914 was enacted in order to impose a tax on opiates but scumbag theocratic federal "judges" took it upon themselves to treat it as an act CRIMINALIZING the possession and distribution of opiates.

.

Maybe those minorities should get off the dope. Whatcha think?

Who the fuck are you to tell minorities or anyone else for that matter what to do.

I bet you don't even persuade your teenage children.

.

I'm the guy that has a job, doesn't live in a ghetto and doesn't have to worry about getting busted on a drug charge.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

The first anti-drug law was enacted in 1875. Criminalizing drug use has nothing to do with picking on black folks. That's stupid. It's been known for a few hundred years that unrestricted drug use is bad for society.

Shut the fuck up.

How did they determine hat unrestricted drug use is bad for "society."?

Miserable piece of shit

Because too many people were doped up.

did you not read the article he relied on?

white males sell drugs as much if not more than black males and don't get prosecuted in the same proportions. that's fact. not surmise. and you've seen the reasons why that is the case

It is mostly because black drug dealers are poor , no cars, live in hoods and stupid.....

Nothing to do with race.....

that's false. it has nothing to do with being "stupid". it has to do with greater police activity directed against blacks and the ability of little suburban white boys' families to pay for expensive attorneys.

you're welcome.

I have a solution...don't break the law.

 

[Agit8r]

War on drugs' was a sinister conspiracy to go after anti-war protesters and black people, according to president Nixon's domestic policy chief

• A decades-old interview with John Ehrlichman, President Richard Nixon's domestic policy chief, reveals the 'War on Drugs' targeted black people
• The policy also targeted anti-war protesters in the Nixon years
• Harper's Magazine originally ran the interview in 1994, five years before Ehrlichman died in 1999
• Dan Baum, the journalist who originally interviewed Ehrlichman, recently revisited the interview in Harper's

.

Obviously, yes. Nice that one of them has finally confessed

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

War on drugs' was a sinister conspiracy to go after anti-war protesters and black people, according to president Nixon's domestic policy chief

• A decades-old interview with John Ehrlichman, President Richard Nixon's domestic policy chief, reveals the 'War on Drugs' targeted black people
• The policy also targeted anti-war protesters in the Nixon years
• Harper's Magazine originally ran the interview in 1994, five years before Ehrlichman died in 1999
• Dan Baum, the journalist who originally interviewed Ehrlichman, recently revisited the interview in Harper's

.

true.... so we can agree that the war on drugs and the criminal justice system need to be overhauled?

Overhauled how?

how about we start with getting rid of mandatory minimums and decriminalizing drugs and unequal enforcement of drug laws?

How about people quit breaking the law, if they don't like going to jail?

 

[FA_Q2]

The first anti-drug law was enacted in 1875. Criminalizing drug use has nothing to do with picking on black folks. That's stupid. It's been known for a few hundred years that unrestricted drug use is bad for society.

Shut the fuck up.

How did they determine hat unrestricted drug use is bad for "society."?

Miserable piece of shit

Because too many people were doped up.

did you not read the article he relied on?

white males sell drugs as much if not more than black males and don't get prosecuted in the same proportions. that's fact. not surmise. and you've seen the reasons why that is the case

It is mostly because black drug dealers are poor , no cars, live in hoods and stupid.....

Nothing to do with race.....

that's false. it has nothing to do with being "stupid". it has to do with greater police activity directed against blacks and the ability of little suburban white boys' families to pay for expensive attorneys.

you're welcome.

IOW, socioeconomic and not race.

Police are not actively directed at minorities - they are actively directed at poor communities and those communities are over represented with blacks.

 

[Contumacious]

Everything starts as a temporary action. That's how we got income tax also.

Actually, everything starts as a racist action - many politicians were angered when white girls in California were found in Chinese opium dens.

The Harrison Act of 1914 was enacted in order to impose a tax on opiates but scumbag theocratic federal "judges" took it upon themselves to treat it as an act CRIMINALIZING the possession and distribution of opiates.

.

Maybe those minorities should get off the dope. Whatcha think?

Who the fuck are you to tell minorities or anyone else for that matter what to do.

I bet you don't even persuade your teenage children.

.

I'm the guy that has a job, doesn't live in a ghetto and doesn't have to worry about getting busted on a drug charge.

Good for you

Now go forth and sin no more

 

[Contumacious]

War on drugs' was a sinister conspiracy to go after anti-war protesters and black people, according to president Nixon's domestic policy chief

• A decades-old interview with John Ehrlichman, President Richard Nixon's domestic policy chief, reveals the 'War on Drugs' targeted black people
• The policy also targeted anti-war protesters in the Nixon years
• Harper's Magazine originally ran the interview in 1994, five years before Ehrlichman died in 1999
• Dan Baum, the journalist who originally interviewed Ehrlichman, recently revisited the interview in Harper's

.

Obviously, yes. Nice that one of them has finally confessed

A rarity indeed,

.

 

[FA_Q2]

War on drugs' was a sinister conspiracy to go after anti-war protesters and black people, according to president Nixon's domestic policy chief

• A decades-old interview with John Ehrlichman, President Richard Nixon's domestic policy chief, reveals the 'War on Drugs' targeted black people
• The policy also targeted anti-war protesters in the Nixon years
• Harper's Magazine originally ran the interview in 1994, five years before Ehrlichman died in 1999
• Dan Baum, the journalist who originally interviewed Ehrlichman, recently revisited the interview in Harper's

.

true.... so we can agree that the war on drugs and the criminal justice system need to be overhauled?

Overhauled how?

how about we start with getting rid of mandatory minimums and decriminalizing drugs and unequal enforcement of drug laws?

How about people quit breaking the law, if they don't like going to jail?

Good idea.

It would also help if we stopped making everything illegal though:
The Inexplicable War on Lemonade Stands

In some cases the law itself is the problem. It is clearly the problem when we crush the entrepreneurial spirit in some kids when they try and sell some lemon aid. I think it is also the problem when you want to enjoy some recreational chemicals in your own damn living room. Alcohol is permissible though worse than pot in every single possible measure. Spray paint, markers and air conditioners also all legal and also can all get you high. Not sure why we need so many draconian laws to stop people from killing themselves. If you want to vegetate and eventually die from drug abuse - so be it. We would do a lot better focusing that time and money on education, prevention and treatment plans rather than law enforcement.

You know how much a rehab center and a basic education program against drugs effect my life? Zero, zip, zilch and nada. However, we are ALL massively effected by the drug war and the invasion of your rights that occurs specifically because of it.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

Everything starts as a temporary action. That's how we got income tax also.

Actually, everything starts as a racist action - many politicians were angered when white girls in California were found in Chinese opium dens.

The Harrison Act of 1914 was enacted in order to impose a tax on opiates but scumbag theocratic federal "judges" took it upon themselves to treat it as an act CRIMINALIZING the possession and distribution of opiates.

.

Maybe those minorities should get off the dope. Whatcha think?

Who the fuck are you to tell minorities or anyone else for that matter what to do.

I bet you don't even persuade your teenage children.

.

I'm the guy that has a job, doesn't live in a ghetto and doesn't have to worry about getting busted on a drug charge.

Good for you

Now go forth and sin no more

You're preaching to the choir.

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

War on drugs' was a sinister conspiracy to go after anti-war protesters and black people, according to president Nixon's domestic policy chief

• A decades-old interview with John Ehrlichman, President Richard Nixon's domestic policy chief, reveals the 'War on Drugs' targeted black people
• The policy also targeted anti-war protesters in the Nixon years
• Harper's Magazine originally ran the interview in 1994, five years before Ehrlichman died in 1999
• Dan Baum, the journalist who originally interviewed Ehrlichman, recently revisited the interview in Harper's

.

true.... so we can agree that the war on drugs and the criminal justice system need to be overhauled?

Overhauled how?

how about we start with getting rid of mandatory minimums and decriminalizing drugs and unequal enforcement of drug laws?

How about people quit breaking the law, if they don't like going to jail?

Good idea.

It would also help if we stopped making everything illegal though:
The Inexplicable War on Lemonade Stands

In some cases the law itself is the problem. It is clearly the problem when we crush the entrepreneurial spirit in some kids when they try and sell some lemon aid. I think it is also the problem when you want to enjoy some recreational chemicals in your own damn living room. Alcohol is permissible though worse than pot in every single possible measure. Spray paint, markers and air conditioners also all legal and also can all get you high. Not sure why we need so many draconian laws to stop people from killing themselves. If you want to vegetate and eventually die from drug abuse - so be it. We would do a lot better focusing that time and money on education, prevention and treatment plans rather than law enforcement.

You know how much a rehab center and a basic education program against drugs effect my life? Zero, zip, zilch and nada. However, we are ALL massively effected by the drug war and the invasion of your rights that occurs specifically because of it.

Let's legalize murder. That would lower the murder rate.

Personally, I want to abolish tax laws. I don't like paying taxes.

How's that sound?

 

[jillian]

Everything starts as a temporary action. That's how we got income tax also.

Actually, everything starts as a racist action - many politicians were angered when white girls in California were found in Chinese opium dens.

The Harrison Act of 1914 was enacted in order to impose a tax on opiates but scumbag theocratic federal "judges" took it upon themselves to treat it as an act CRIMINALIZING the possession and distribution of opiates.

.

Maybe those minorities should get off the dope. Whatcha think?

Who the fuck are you to tell minorities or anyone else for that matter what to do.

I bet you don't even persuade your teenage children.

.

I'm the guy that has a job, doesn't live in a ghetto and doesn't have to worry about getting busted on a drug charge.

and no doubt you grew up in a neighborhood where your parents weren't steered away by real estate people so white people wouldn't have to live near you. no doubt you went to schools that weren't in poor neighborhoods. (you know there's a significant correlation between paren't socio-economic status and your success at school, right?) and no doubt you weren't rolled by the cops every day just for the color of your skin.

again, when you're white, the police don't bother you for getting high.

and maybe your father or grandfather moved into a nice development on the GI bill.... you know, those nice developments that didn't have black people in them, even when those black people served in the military.

but tell us how you did it all on your own, ass.

 

[jillian]

true.... so we can agree that the war on drugs and the criminal justice system need to be overhauled?

Overhauled how?

how about we start with getting rid of mandatory minimums and decriminalizing drugs and unequal enforcement of drug laws?

How about people quit breaking the law, if they don't like going to jail?

Good idea.

It would also help if we stopped making everything illegal though:
The Inexplicable War on Lemonade Stands

In some cases the law itself is the problem. It is clearly the problem when we crush the entrepreneurial spirit in some kids when they try and sell some lemon aid. I think it is also the problem when you want to enjoy some recreational chemicals in your own damn living room. Alcohol is permissible though worse than pot in every single possible measure. Spray paint, markers and air conditioners also all legal and also can all get you high. Not sure why we need so many draconian laws to stop people from killing themselves. If you want to vegetate and eventually die from drug abuse - so be it. We would do a lot better focusing that time and money on education, prevention and treatment plans rather than law enforcement.

You know how much a rehab center and a basic education program against drugs effect my life? Zero, zip, zilch and nada. However, we are ALL massively effected by the drug war and the invasion of your rights that occurs specifically because of it.

Let's legalize murder. That would lower the murder rate.

Personally, I want to abolish tax laws. I don't like paying taxes.

How's that sound?

you're comparing pot to murder?

 

[FA_Q2]

true.... so we can agree that the war on drugs and the criminal justice system need to be overhauled?

Overhauled how?

how about we start with getting rid of mandatory minimums and decriminalizing drugs and unequal enforcement of drug laws?

How about people quit breaking the law, if they don't like going to jail?

Good idea.

It would also help if we stopped making everything illegal though:
The Inexplicable War on Lemonade Stands

In some cases the law itself is the problem. It is clearly the problem when we crush the entrepreneurial spirit in some kids when they try and sell some lemon aid. I think it is also the problem when you want to enjoy some recreational chemicals in your own damn living room. Alcohol is permissible though worse than pot in every single possible measure. Spray paint, markers and air conditioners also all legal and also can all get you high. Not sure why we need so many draconian laws to stop people from killing themselves. If you want to vegetate and eventually die from drug abuse - so be it. We would do a lot better focusing that time and money on education, prevention and treatment plans rather than law enforcement.

You know how much a rehab center and a basic education program against drugs effect my life? Zero, zip, zilch and nada. However, we are ALL massively effected by the drug war and the invasion of your rights that occurs specifically because of it.

Let's legalize murder. That would lower the murder rate.

Personally, I want to abolish tax laws. I don't like paying taxes.

How's that sound?

That sounds idiotic.

Murder is a clear violation of the victims rights. Tax law is another story. Taxes in their current form should be obliterated but a basic tax for communal goods has no connection with making drugs illegal.

Care to address the point without bringing up asinine comparisons that have nothing to do with the issue at hand?

 

[jillian]

Overhauled how?

how about we start with getting rid of mandatory minimums and decriminalizing drugs and unequal enforcement of drug laws?

How about people quit breaking the law, if they don't like going to jail?

Good idea.

It would also help if we stopped making everything illegal though:
The Inexplicable War on Lemonade Stands

In some cases the law itself is the problem. It is clearly the problem when we crush the entrepreneurial spirit in some kids when they try and sell some lemon aid. I think it is also the problem when you want to enjoy some recreational chemicals in your own damn living room. Alcohol is permissible though worse than pot in every single possible measure. Spray paint, markers and air conditioners also all legal and also can all get you high. Not sure why we need so many draconian laws to stop people from killing themselves. If you want to vegetate and eventually die from drug abuse - so be it. We would do a lot better focusing that time and money on education, prevention and treatment plans rather than law enforcement.

You know how much a rehab center and a basic education program against drugs effect my life? Zero, zip, zilch and nada. However, we are ALL massively effected by the drug war and the invasion of your rights that occurs specifically because of it.

Let's legalize murder. That would lower the murder rate.

Personally, I want to abolish tax laws. I don't like paying taxes.

How's that sound?

That sounds idiotic.

Murder is a clear violation of the victims rights. Tax law is another story. Taxes in their current form should be obliterated but a basic tax for communal goods has no connection with making drugs illegal.

Care to address the point without bringing up asinine comparisons that have nothing to do with the issue at hand?

good luck with that. i bowed out when it compared murder to getting high.

 

[FA_Q2]

Everything starts as a temporary action. That's how we got income tax also.

Actually, everything starts as a racist action - many politicians were angered when white girls in California were found in Chinese opium dens.

The Harrison Act of 1914 was enacted in order to impose a tax on opiates but scumbag theocratic federal "judges" took it upon themselves to treat it as an act CRIMINALIZING the possession and distribution of opiates.

.

Maybe those minorities should get off the dope. Whatcha think?

Who the fuck are you to tell minorities or anyone else for that matter what to do.

I bet you don't even persuade your teenage children.

.

I'm the guy that has a job, doesn't live in a ghetto and doesn't have to worry about getting busted on a drug charge.

and no doubt you grew up in a neighborhood where your parents weren't steered away by real estate people so white people wouldn't have to live near you. no doubt you went to schools that weren't in poor neighborhoods. (you know there's a significant correlation between paren't socio-economic status and your success at school, right?) and no doubt you weren't rolled by the cops every day just for the color of your skin.

again, when you're white, the police don't bother you for getting high.

and maybe your father or grandfather moved into a nice development on the GI bill.... you know, those nice developments that didn't have black people in them, even when those black people served in the military.

but tell us how you did it all on your own, ass.

Again, I challenge the assertion that 'when you are white, the police do not bother you for getting high.' I think that is false. When you are not POOR the police do not bother you for getting high.

 

[guno]

War on drugs' was a sinister conspiracy to go after anti-war protesters and black people, according to president Nixon's domestic policy chief

• A decades-old interview with John Ehrlichman, President Richard Nixon's domestic policy chief, reveals the 'War on Drugs' targeted black people
• The policy also targeted anti-war protesters in the Nixon years
• Harper's Magazine originally ran the interview in 1994, five years before Ehrlichman died in 1999
• Dan Baum, the journalist who originally interviewed Ehrlichman, recently revisited the interview in Harper's

.

And who flooded minority neighborhoods with drugs, take a guess

 

[jillian]

Actually, everything starts as a racist action - many politicians were angered when white girls in California were found in Chinese opium dens.

The Harrison Act of 1914 was enacted in order to impose a tax on opiates but scumbag theocratic federal "judges" took it upon themselves to treat it as an act CRIMINALIZING the possession and distribution of opiates.

.

Maybe those minorities should get off the dope. Whatcha think?

Who the fuck are you to tell minorities or anyone else for that matter what to do.

I bet you don't even persuade your teenage children.

.

I'm the guy that has a job, doesn't live in a ghetto and doesn't have to worry about getting busted on a drug charge.

and no doubt you grew up in a neighborhood where your parents weren't steered away by real estate people so white people wouldn't have to live near you. no doubt you went to schools that weren't in poor neighborhoods. (you know there's a significant correlation between paren't socio-economic status and your success at school, right?) and no doubt you weren't rolled by the cops every day just for the color of your skin.

again, when you're white, the police don't bother you for getting high.

and maybe your father or grandfather moved into a nice development on the GI bill.... you know, those nice developments that didn't have black people in them, even when those black people served in the military.

but tell us how you did it all on your own, ass.

Again, I challenge the assertion that 'when you are white, the police do not bother you for getting high.' I think that is false. When you are not POOR the police do not bother you for getting high.

you can challenge the assertion but the reality is that white teens get high and sell drugs at about the same rate as black kids... probably sell at a higher rate. the cops don't arrest and if they do, prosecutors use their prosecutorial discretion because you "come from a good family" and then when you do get to court, your family can afford a lawyer.

don't just rely on my telling you what i know to be true.

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