Elizabeth Warren proposes canceling student loan debt and offering free public college

[JoeB131]

The whole thing about which degree college students get is nothing but a red herring.

The fact is that you can't get a decent job unless you have a degree and even then you need a masters to get a really good job. Kids are graduating with $ 100K in debt and more and can't get a job that pays more than $45K. That's killing our economy.

It keeps them chained to jobs that don't come close to using their potential. It keeps them from starting families and buying houses.

It only makes SENSE to free that money up and get it flowing through the economy.

And for those who whine that "someone is getting something I'm not"...remember that not too long ago we handed out loan forgiveness to folks with "upside down" mortgages. We did that because it made sense and we did that because it saved the housing industry.

It was the smart thing to do and so is this

I am not sure if the housing/banking bailout was a good idea. It told people they can keep being irresponsible in their housing choices

 

[dblack]

The whole thing about which degree college students get is nothing but a red herring.

The fact is that you can't get a decent job unless you have a degree and even then you need a masters to get a really good job. Kids are graduating with $ 100K in debt and more and can't get a job that pays more than $45K. That's killing our economy.

It keeps them chained to jobs that don't come close to using their potential. It keeps them from starting families and buying houses.

It only makes SENSE to free that money up and get it flowing through the economy.

And for those who whine that "someone is getting something I'm not"...remember that not too long ago we handed out loan forgiveness to folks with "upside down" mortgages. We did that because it made sense and we did that because it saved the housing industry.

It was the smart thing to do and so is this

I am not sure if the housing/banking bailout was a good idea. It told people they can keep being irresponsible in their housing choices

You shouldn't drink this early in the morning Joe.

 

[dblack]

Warren's plan to forgive student loans today is a transfer to people who will earn several million dollars over their working lives

I agree, it's an awful idea, especially the part where you qualify for forgiveness even if you have a family income of $140,000. If you have that kind of family income, you can pay your fucking debt.

You clearly didn't get the memo. Free shit. Pay attention.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Gee, I wonder how that'll go over with all the students who played by the rules and paid back their student loans.

Why aren't Democrats talking about the gouging prices being charged by so many colleges now? Why don't they demand an investigation into how and why so many colleges have been steadily jacking up their tuition rates, books fees, housing fees, etc., etc.?

 

[LeftofLeft]

An educated populace with the skills needed for today's jobs and a greatly increased tax base far into the future.

That's what we all get for footing the bill for our fellow Americans to become highly educated and skilled.

Think beyond your simpleton schnozz, ya weirdo.

We aren't getting highly educated and skilled fellow Americans. We are getting woke social justice warriors with degrees in Chicano Studies, Women's Roles in Medieval Africa and Human Sexuality. There is a demand to make Social Activism a degreed subject.

If you want an investment, let the free education be extended to STEM students. Everyone else pays double.

Great point. Doing away with the social majors a shifting towards STEM will leave only a few losers standing: the tenured professors who teach the social subjects. Tell them those jobs are going a away and they need to get retrained like Obama told coal miners.

Doing away with liberal arts is a very bad idea, just like not taxing the rich any more than anybody else A disaster. A GOP disaster.

Liberal arts doesn't produce salable goods.

It does prevent people from becoming brainwashed functional GOP morons...

Liberal arts is brain washing.

 

[jknowgood]

No, it isn’t. It’s flat out irresponsible to pile on that kind of debt on top of the 22 trillion this country already owes. It’s mortgaging our future even more to win votes from idiots like you today.

They're going to keep adding trillions to the debt either way. Maybe one of those trillions could actually help people for a change.

What about all the people that paid theirs off?

 

[JoeB131]

Gee, I wonder how that'll go over with all the students who played by the rules and paid back their student loans.

Why aren't Democrats talking about the gouging prices being charged by so many colleges now? Why don't they demand an investigation into how and why so many colleges have been steadily jacking up their tuition rates, books fees, housing fees, etc., etc.?

They have been. The reason why these schools do that is because Republican state governments have been consistently cutting direct funding to state universities, and to scholarships, putting the cost of education directly on the student.

Now- again- I don't think this is a good idea. But I understand the frustration of college students and their parents. You tell these kids they need to get a Bachelor's to get a good job, but then you charge them an exorbitant amount to get there.

 

[Blues Man]

Gee, I wonder how that'll go over with all the students who played by the rules and paid back their student loans.

Why aren't Democrats talking about the gouging prices being charged by so many colleges now? Why don't they demand an investigation into how and why so many colleges have been steadily jacking up their tuition rates, books fees, housing fees, etc., etc.?

Artificial demand artificially raises costs.

40% of College Freshmen do not get a degree in 4 years.

Seems to me that those people shouldn't have gone to college and we should not be guaranteeing loans for people who don't graduate.

 

[francoHFW]

We aren't getting highly educated and skilled fellow Americans. We are getting woke social justice warriors with degrees in Chicano Studies, Women's Roles in Medieval Africa and Human Sexuality. There is a demand to make Social Activism a degreed subject.

If you want an investment, let the free education be extended to STEM students. Everyone else pays double.

Great point. Doing away with the social majors a shifting towards STEM will leave only a few losers standing: the tenured professors who teach the social subjects. Tell them those jobs are going a away and they need to get retrained like Obama told coal miners.

Doing away with liberal arts is a very bad idea, just like not taxing the rich any more than anybody else A disaster. A GOP disaster.

Liberal arts doesn't produce salable goods.

It does prevent people from becoming brainwashed functional GOP morons...

Liberal arts is brain washing.

if you would change the channel, you might figure out that all the brainwashing is being done by the GOP

No, it isn’t. It’s flat out irresponsible to pile on that kind of debt on top of the 22 trillion this country already owes. It’s mortgaging our future even more to win votes from idiots like you today.

They're going to keep adding trillions to the debt either way. Maybe one of those trillions could actually help people for a change.

What about all the people that paid theirs off?

, not the rest of the world of Journalism and law enforcement that you have to ignore to believe your crap, super duper. Like Hillary is a criminal ditto Obama Lerner holder the FBI the CIA and every law enforcement in the world LOL. Idiot.

 

[francoHFW]

No, it isn’t. It’s flat out irresponsible to pile on that kind of debt on top of the 22 trillion this country already owes. It’s mortgaging our future even more to win votes from idiots like you today.

They're going to keep adding trillions to the debt either way. Maybe one of those trillions could actually help people for a change.

What about all the people that paid theirs off?

They can thank the Democrats for keeping their loan payments so low before the Republicans screwed up the whole system...

 

[LeftofLeft]

Great point. Doing away with the social majors a shifting towards STEM will leave only a few losers standing: the tenured professors who teach the social subjects. Tell them those jobs are going a away and they need to get retrained like Obama told coal miners.

Doing away with liberal arts is a very bad idea, just like not taxing the rich any more than anybody else A disaster. A GOP disaster.

Liberal arts doesn't produce salable goods.

It does prevent people from becoming brainwashed functional GOP morons...

Liberal arts is brain washing.

if you would change the channel, you might figure out that all the brainwashing is being done by the GOP

No, it isn’t. It’s flat out irresponsible to pile on that kind of debt on top of the 22 trillion this country already owes. It’s mortgaging our future even more to win votes from idiots like you today.

They're going to keep adding trillions to the debt either way. Maybe one of those trillions could actually help people for a change.

What about all the people that paid theirs off?

, not the rest of the world of Journalism and law enforcement that you have to ignore to believe your crap, super duper. Like Hillary is a criminal ditto Obama Lerner holder the FBI the CIA and every law enforcement in the world LOL. Idiot.

Lerner ran like a guilty whore in church. She should have never had that power at the IRS to use it as a weapon on command by her masters.

 

[Polishprince]

Doing away with liberal arts is a very bad idea, just like not taxing the rich any more than anybody else A disaster. A GOP disaster.

Liberal arts doesn't produce salable goods.

It does prevent people from becoming brainwashed functional GOP morons...

Liberal arts is brain washing.

if you would change the channel, you might figure out that all the brainwashing is being done by the GOP

No, it isn’t. It’s flat out irresponsible to pile on that kind of debt on top of the 22 trillion this country already owes. It’s mortgaging our future even more to win votes from idiots like you today.

They're going to keep adding trillions to the debt either way. Maybe one of those trillions could actually help people for a change.

What about all the people that paid theirs off?

, not the rest of the world of Journalism and law enforcement that you have to ignore to believe your crap, super duper. Like Hillary is a criminal ditto Obama Lerner holder the FBI the CIA and every law enforcement in the world LOL. Idiot.

Lerner ran like a guilty whore in church. She should have never had that power at the IRS to use it as a weapon on command by her masters.

If I were Ms. Lerner, I'd be out shopping for a lawyer.

I don't think she is directly in the President's crosshairs in his Swamp Draining exercise, but guys like Comey, McCabe, John Brennan, Clapper, Strzok and Page all are and will be looking to finger others to save themselves some grief.

 

[francoHFW]

Doing away with liberal arts is a very bad idea, just like not taxing the rich any more than anybody else A disaster. A GOP disaster.

Liberal arts doesn't produce salable goods.

It does prevent people from becoming brainwashed functional GOP morons...

Liberal arts is brain washing.

if you would change the channel, you might figure out that all the brainwashing is being done by the GOP

No, it isn’t. It’s flat out irresponsible to pile on that kind of debt on top of the 22 trillion this country already owes. It’s mortgaging our future even more to win votes from idiots like you today.

They're going to keep adding trillions to the debt either way. Maybe one of those trillions could actually help people for a change.

What about all the people that paid theirs off?

, not the rest of the world of Journalism and law enforcement that you have to ignore to believe your crap, super duper. Like Hillary is a criminal ditto Obama Lerner holder the FBI the CIA and every law enforcement in the world LOL. Idiot.

Lerner ran like a guilty whore in church. She should have never had that power at the IRS to use it as a weapon on command by her masters.

Another imaginary Scandal, the only kind you people have....

 

[francoHFW]

Doing away with liberal arts is a very bad idea, just like not taxing the rich any more than anybody else A disaster. A GOP disaster.

Liberal arts doesn't produce salable goods.

It does prevent people from becoming brainwashed functional GOP morons...

Liberal arts is brain washing.

if you would change the channel, you might figure out that all the brainwashing is being done by the GOP

No, it isn’t. It’s flat out irresponsible to pile on that kind of debt on top of the 22 trillion this country already owes. It’s mortgaging our future even more to win votes from idiots like you today.

They're going to keep adding trillions to the debt either way. Maybe one of those trillions could actually help people for a change.

What about all the people that paid theirs off?

, not the rest of the world of Journalism and law enforcement that you have to ignore to believe your crap, super duper. Like Hillary is a criminal ditto Obama Lerner holder the FBI the CIA and every law enforcement in the world LOL. Idiot.

Lerner ran like a guilty whore in church. She should have never had that power at the IRS to use it as a weapon on command by her masters.

She didn't want to get a tidal wave of garbage in her face for nothing, super duper. No one was turned down, and any delay was because of cuts for the FBI by the GOP and the fact that there were so many tea party orgs all of a sudden... All investigated and nothing found but imaginary GOP garbage propaganda........ As always.

 

[Polishprince]

Liberal arts doesn't produce salable goods.

It does prevent people from becoming brainwashed functional GOP morons...

Liberal arts is brain washing.

if you would change the channel, you might figure out that all the brainwashing is being done by the GOP

No, it isn’t. It’s flat out irresponsible to pile on that kind of debt on top of the 22 trillion this country already owes. It’s mortgaging our future even more to win votes from idiots like you today.

They're going to keep adding trillions to the debt either way. Maybe one of those trillions could actually help people for a change.

What about all the people that paid theirs off?

, not the rest of the world of Journalism and law enforcement that you have to ignore to believe your crap, super duper. Like Hillary is a criminal ditto Obama Lerner holder the FBI the CIA and every law enforcement in the world LOL. Idiot.

Lerner ran like a guilty whore in church. She should have never had that power at the IRS to use it as a weapon on command by her masters.

She didn't want to get a tidal wave of garbage in her face for nothing, super duper. No one was turned down, and any delay was because of cuts for the FBI by the GOP and the fact that there were so many tea party orgs all of a sudden... All investigated and nothing found but imaginary GOP garbage propaganda........ As always.

No, she just didn't want to be subjected to Congressional Oversight which would have unveiled the whole scheme.

Why do libs have a problem with congressional oversight?

When the Senate issues subpoenas for Hillary Clinton and B. Hussein O to explain themselves, it should be interesting.

 

[francoHFW]

It does prevent people from becoming brainwashed functional GOP morons...

Liberal arts is brain washing.

if you would change the channel, you might figure out that all the brainwashing is being done by the GOP

They're going to keep adding trillions to the debt either way. Maybe one of those trillions could actually help people for a change.

What about all the people that paid theirs off?

, not the rest of the world of Journalism and law enforcement that you have to ignore to believe your crap, super duper. Like Hillary is a criminal ditto Obama Lerner holder the FBI the CIA and every law enforcement in the world LOL. Idiot.

Lerner ran like a guilty whore in church. She should have never had that power at the IRS to use it as a weapon on command by her masters.

She didn't want to get a tidal wave of garbage in her face for nothing, super duper. No one was turned down, and any delay was because of cuts for the FBI by the GOP and the fact that there were so many tea party orgs all of a sudden... All investigated and nothing found but imaginary GOP garbage propaganda........ As always.

No, she just didn't want to be subjected to Congressional Oversight which would have unveiled the whole scheme.

Why do libs have a problem with congressional oversight?

When the Senate issues subpoenas for Hillary Clinton and B. Hussein O to explain themselves, it should be interesting.

It will never happen, you know, because of the giant conspiracy. Actually you are just totally fos cuz you listen to that crap.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Liberal arts is brain washing.

if you would change the channel, you might figure out that all the brainwashing is being done by the GOP

What about all the people that paid theirs off?

, not the rest of the world of Journalism and law enforcement that you have to ignore to believe your crap, super duper. Like Hillary is a criminal ditto Obama Lerner holder the FBI the CIA and every law enforcement in the world LOL. Idiot.

Lerner ran like a guilty whore in church. She should have never had that power at the IRS to use it as a weapon on command by her masters.

She didn't want to get a tidal wave of garbage in her face for nothing, super duper. No one was turned down, and any delay was because of cuts for the FBI by the GOP and the fact that there were so many tea party orgs all of a sudden... All investigated and nothing found but imaginary GOP garbage propaganda........ As always.

No, she just didn't want to be subjected to Congressional Oversight which would have unveiled the whole scheme.

Why do libs have a problem with congressional oversight?

When the Senate issues subpoenas for Hillary Clinton and B. Hussein O to explain themselves, it should be interesting.

It will never happen, you know, because of the giant conspiracy. Actually you are just totally fos cuz you listen to that crap.

So if I understand you correctly, no DEM is ever guilty of anything yet ALL pubs are guilty of everything Dems say they are.

 

[francoHFW]

if you would change the channel, you might figure out that all the brainwashing is being done by the GOP
, not the rest of the world of Journalism and law enforcement that you have to ignore to believe your crap, super duper. Like Hillary is a criminal ditto Obama Lerner holder the FBI the CIA and every law enforcement in the world LOL. Idiot.

Lerner ran like a guilty whore in church. She should have never had that power at the IRS to use it as a weapon on command by her masters.

She didn't want to get a tidal wave of garbage in her face for nothing, super duper. No one was turned down, and any delay was because of cuts for the FBI by the GOP and the fact that there were so many tea party orgs all of a sudden... All investigated and nothing found but imaginary GOP garbage propaganda........ As always.

No, she just didn't want to be subjected to Congressional Oversight which would have unveiled the whole scheme.

Why do libs have a problem with congressional oversight?

When the Senate issues subpoenas for Hillary Clinton and B. Hussein O to explain themselves, it should be interesting.

It will never happen, you know, because of the giant conspiracy. Actually you are just totally fos cuz you listen to that crap.

So if I understand you correctly, no DEM is ever guilty of anything yet ALL pubs are guilty of everything Dems say they are.

Law enforcement and journalists tell me I'm right. And that you believe a pile of excrement as a GOP dupe. You people believe Hillary is a criminal and she's never been anywhere near a courtroom or anyting or being arrested. Total garbage along with all your phony scandals, Super Dupe.all respected journalists and law enforcement in the world congratulate the Obama Administration as being without even a breath of Scandal. And you think they're criminals absolute idiocy.

 

[Ambivalent1]

Lerner ran like a guilty whore in church. She should have never had that power at the IRS to use it as a weapon on command by her masters.

She didn't want to get a tidal wave of garbage in her face for nothing, super duper. No one was turned down, and any delay was because of cuts for the FBI by the GOP and the fact that there were so many tea party orgs all of a sudden... All investigated and nothing found but imaginary GOP garbage propaganda........ As always.

No, she just didn't want to be subjected to Congressional Oversight which would have unveiled the whole scheme.

Why do libs have a problem with congressional oversight?

When the Senate issues subpoenas for Hillary Clinton and B. Hussein O to explain themselves, it should be interesting.

It will never happen, you know, because of the giant conspiracy. Actually you are just totally fos cuz you listen to that crap.

So if I understand you correctly, no DEM is ever guilty of anything yet ALL pubs are guilty of everything Dems say they are.

Law enforcement and journalists tell me I'm right. And that you believe a pile of excrement as a GOP dupe. You people believe Hillary is a criminal and she's never been anywhere near a courtroom or anyting or being arrested. Total garbage along with all your phony scandals, Super Dupe.all respected journalists and law enforcement in the world congratulate the Obama Administration as being without even a breath of Scandal. And you think they're criminals absolute idiocy.

So if I understand you correctly, no DEM is ever guilty of anything yet ALL pubs are guilty of everything Dems say they are
Yes or no dumbass? Or don't you have the balls?

 

[Ambivalent1]

Lerner ran like a guilty whore in church. She should have never had that power at the IRS to use it as a weapon on command by her masters.

She didn't want to get a tidal wave of garbage in her face for nothing, super duper. No one was turned down, and any delay was because of cuts for the FBI by the GOP and the fact that there were so many tea party orgs all of a sudden... All investigated and nothing found but imaginary GOP garbage propaganda........ As always.

No, she just didn't want to be subjected to Congressional Oversight which would have unveiled the whole scheme.

Why do libs have a problem with congressional oversight?

When the Senate issues subpoenas for Hillary Clinton and B. Hussein O to explain themselves, it should be interesting.

It will never happen, you know, because of the giant conspiracy. Actually you are just totally fos cuz you listen to that crap.

So if I understand you correctly, no DEM is ever guilty of anything yet ALL pubs are guilty of everything Dems say they are.

Law enforcement and journalists tell me I'm right. And that you believe a pile of excrement as a GOP dupe. You people believe Hillary is a criminal and she's never been anywhere near a courtroom or anyting or being arrested. Total garbage along with all your phony scandals, Super Dupe.all respected journalists and law enforcement in the world congratulate the Obama Administration as being without even a breath of Scandal. And you think they're criminals absolute idiocy.

These bitches belong to you. You should be proud.