Engineer: Trump's wall is implausible

[Auld Phart]

An Engineer Explains Why Trump’s Wall Is So Implausible

There are very few occasions in American political discourse that require the input of a structural engineer, but when Donald Trump took a question from Univision’s Jorge Ramos regarding his proposed United States-Mexico border wall at a press conference on August 25, I heard the clarion call:


RAMOS: How are you going to build a 1,900-mile wall?
TRUMP: Very easy. I’m a builder. That’s easy. I build buildings that are — can I tell you what’s more complicated? What’s more complicated is building a building that’s 95 stories tall. Okay?


No. Donald Trump is not a builder. Donald Trump could not build a doghouse. Donald Trump is a developer who pays what he would call “very, very smart people” to build things on his behalf. His response to Ramos’ question was meant both to exaggerate his understanding of construction and to downplay the challenges posed by his border wall project.

The challenge of Trump’s border wall is not technical, but logistical. The leap in complexity between “building a wall” and “building a 2,000-mile-long continuous border wall in the desert” is about equal to the gap between “killing a guy” and “waging a protracted land war.” Trump’s border wall, if built as he has described it, would be one of the largest civil works projects in the history of the country and would face an array of challenges not found when constructing 95-story skyscrapers.

Trumpery has no intention of "building a wall" but this thread is about the logistics of this fantastical project. John Oliver's segment explained many of the same things but this is more detailed. Even fans of Trumpery's trumpery will see why most people laugh at the idea of The Great Trump Wall.

Here in the 21st century we can't build a wall?
Good thing the Chinese didn't hear that 2,700 years ago.
Israel built a 500 mile wall. Hardly an engineering feat.

Great Wall is 13,171 miles long.

Is our southern border longer than that?

How Long It Took to Built the Great Wall of China

It is actually a complicated question. There are several Great Walls that were built by different dynasties such as the Qin Great Wall and the better known Ming Great Wall. But there are estimates about the number of laborers and records for how many years it took to complete the work...
Construction Time For All of the Walls

If all the fortified walls that were built by the different dynasties and kingdoms around northern China are included, the total length would exceed 20,000 kilometers (12,000 miles). All these walls together were completed over a period of 22 centuries. It is probably impossible to calculate how many millions of people built the Great Wall or the man hours expended.

So why are you buying into the idea mankind can't do what they did 2,700 years ago?

I'm not.

I have no doubt that we could build a 12K mile wall over a period of more than 2000 years.

With todays equipment and materials, I'm fairly sure we could build one in far less time.

 

[Weatherman2020]

An Engineer Explains Why Trump’s Wall Is So Implausible

There are very few occasions in American political discourse that require the input of a structural engineer, but when Donald Trump took a question from Univision’s Jorge Ramos regarding his proposed United States-Mexico border wall at a press conference on August 25, I heard the clarion call:


RAMOS: How are you going to build a 1,900-mile wall?
TRUMP: Very easy. I’m a builder. That’s easy. I build buildings that are — can I tell you what’s more complicated? What’s more complicated is building a building that’s 95 stories tall. Okay?


No. Donald Trump is not a builder. Donald Trump could not build a doghouse. Donald Trump is a developer who pays what he would call “very, very smart people” to build things on his behalf. His response to Ramos’ question was meant both to exaggerate his understanding of construction and to downplay the challenges posed by his border wall project.

The challenge of Trump’s border wall is not technical, but logistical. The leap in complexity between “building a wall” and “building a 2,000-mile-long continuous border wall in the desert” is about equal to the gap between “killing a guy” and “waging a protracted land war.” Trump’s border wall, if built as he has described it, would be one of the largest civil works projects in the history of the country and would face an array of challenges not found when constructing 95-story skyscrapers.

Trumpery has no intention of "building a wall" but this thread is about the logistics of this fantastical project. John Oliver's segment explained many of the same things but this is more detailed. Even fans of Trumpery's trumpery will see why most people laugh at the idea of The Great Trump Wall.

Here in the 21st century we can't build a wall?
Good thing the Chinese didn't hear that 2,700 years ago.
Israel built a 500 mile wall. Hardly an engineering feat.

Great Wall is 13,171 miles long.

Is our southern border longer than that?

How Long It Took to Built the Great Wall of China

It is actually a complicated question. There are several Great Walls that were built by different dynasties such as the Qin Great Wall and the better known Ming Great Wall. But there are estimates about the number of laborers and records for how many years it took to complete the work...
Construction Time For All of the Walls

If all the fortified walls that were built by the different dynasties and kingdoms around northern China are included, the total length would exceed 20,000 kilometers (12,000 miles). All these walls together were completed over a period of 22 centuries. It is probably impossible to calculate how many millions of people built the Great Wall or the man hours expended.

So why are you buying into the idea mankind can't do what they did 2,700 years ago?

I'm not.

I have no doubt that we could build a 12K mile wall over a period of more than 2000 years.

Obviously your under 35. No imagination, education or ambition.

 

[Publius1787]

An Engineer Explains Why Trump’s Wall Is So Implausible

There are very few occasions in American political discourse that require the input of a structural engineer, but when Donald Trump took a question from Univision’s Jorge Ramos regarding his proposed United States-Mexico border wall at a press conference on August 25, I heard the clarion call:


RAMOS: How are you going to build a 1,900-mile wall?
TRUMP: Very easy. I’m a builder. That’s easy. I build buildings that are — can I tell you what’s more complicated? What’s more complicated is building a building that’s 95 stories tall. Okay?


No. Donald Trump is not a builder. Donald Trump could not build a doghouse. Donald Trump is a developer who pays what he would call “very, very smart people” to build things on his behalf. His response to Ramos’ question was meant both to exaggerate his understanding of construction and to downplay the challenges posed by his border wall project.

The challenge of Trump’s border wall is not technical, but logistical. The leap in complexity between “building a wall” and “building a 2,000-mile-long continuous border wall in the desert” is about equal to the gap between “killing a guy” and “waging a protracted land war.” Trump’s border wall, if built as he has described it, would be one of the largest civil works projects in the history of the country and would face an array of challenges not found when constructing 95-story skyscrapers.

Trumpery has no intention of "building a wall" but this thread is about the logistics of this fantastical project. John Oliver's segment explained many of the same things but this is more detailed. Even fans of Trumpery's trumpery will see why most people laugh at the idea of The Great Trump Wall.

Here in the 21st century we can't build a wall?
Good thing the Chinese didn't hear that 2,700 years ago.
Israel built a 500 mile wall. Hardly an engineering feat.

So you disagree with the points made by the engineer?

Please elaborate.

If the engineer made any points you highlighted none of them. You simply said "Look, he's an engineer," and pointed at some ad-homonyms. According to your very own op the engineer made no points. Don't ask someone to argue against what doesn't exist.

No, I did not say
"Look, he's an engineer".
Nor did I attack anyone's grammar or spelling.

The engineer made his points. Not one of the a trump fans has the integrity or courage to address any of them.

Step 1. Get funding
Step 2. Make a phone call. Better yet, call these guys. United States Army Corps of Engineers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .
Step 3. Supervise
Step 4. Laugh at you.

 

[Weatherman2020]

An Engineer Explains Why Trump’s Wall Is So Implausible

There are very few occasions in American political discourse that require the input of a structural engineer, but when Donald Trump took a question from Univision’s Jorge Ramos regarding his proposed United States-Mexico border wall at a press conference on August 25, I heard the clarion call:


RAMOS: How are you going to build a 1,900-mile wall?
TRUMP: Very easy. I’m a builder. That’s easy. I build buildings that are — can I tell you what’s more complicated? What’s more complicated is building a building that’s 95 stories tall. Okay?


No. Donald Trump is not a builder. Donald Trump could not build a doghouse. Donald Trump is a developer who pays what he would call “very, very smart people” to build things on his behalf. His response to Ramos’ question was meant both to exaggerate his understanding of construction and to downplay the challenges posed by his border wall project.

The challenge of Trump’s border wall is not technical, but logistical. The leap in complexity between “building a wall” and “building a 2,000-mile-long continuous border wall in the desert” is about equal to the gap between “killing a guy” and “waging a protracted land war.” Trump’s border wall, if built as he has described it, would be one of the largest civil works projects in the history of the country and would face an array of challenges not found when constructing 95-story skyscrapers.

Trumpery has no intention of "building a wall" but this thread is about the logistics of this fantastical project. John Oliver's segment explained many of the same things but this is more detailed. Even fans of Trumpery's trumpery will see why most people laugh at the idea of The Great Trump Wall.

Here in the 21st century we can't build a wall?
Good thing the Chinese didn't hear that 2,700 years ago.
Israel built a 500 mile wall. Hardly an engineering feat.

Great Wall is 13,171 miles long.

Is our southern border longer than that?

How Long It Took to Built the Great Wall of China

It is actually a complicated question. There are several Great Walls that were built by different dynasties such as the Qin Great Wall and the better known Ming Great Wall. But there are estimates about the number of laborers and records for how many years it took to complete the work...
Construction Time For All of the Walls

If all the fortified walls that were built by the different dynasties and kingdoms around northern China are included, the total length would exceed 20,000 kilometers (12,000 miles). All these walls together were completed over a period of 22 centuries. It is probably impossible to calculate how many millions of people built the Great Wall or the man hours expended.

So why are you buying into the idea mankind can't do what they did 2,700 years ago?

I'm not.

I have no doubt that we could build a 12K mile wall over a period of more than 2000 years.

How many millennia did it take Israel to build 500 miles of wall?

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Here in the 21st century we can't build a wall?
Good thing the Chinese didn't hear that 2,700 years ago.
Israel built a 500 mile wall. Hardly an engineering feat.

Great Wall is 13,171 miles long.

Is our southern border longer than that?

How Long It Took to Built the Great Wall of China

It is actually a complicated question. There are several Great Walls that were built by different dynasties such as the Qin Great Wall and the better known Ming Great Wall. But there are estimates about the number of laborers and records for how many years it took to complete the work...
Construction Time For All of the Walls

If all the fortified walls that were built by the different dynasties and kingdoms around northern China are included, the total length would exceed 20,000 kilometers (12,000 miles). All these walls together were completed over a period of 22 centuries. It is probably impossible to calculate how many millions of people built the Great Wall or the man hours expended.

So why are you buying into the idea mankind can't do what they did 2,700 years ago?

I'm not.

I have no doubt that we could build a 12K mile wall over a period of more than 2000 years.

With todays equipment and materials, I'm fairly sure we could build one in far less time.

Weatherman was talking about a wall that did indeed take 2000 years to build. There is no comparison between the two.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Roman Coliseum in Rome was built in 5 years over 2,000 years ago.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Here in the 21st century we can't build a wall?
Good thing the Chinese didn't hear that 2,700 years ago.
Israel built a 500 mile wall. Hardly an engineering feat.

Great Wall is 13,171 miles long.

Is our southern border longer than that?

How Long It Took to Built the Great Wall of China

It is actually a complicated question. There are several Great Walls that were built by different dynasties such as the Qin Great Wall and the better known Ming Great Wall. But there are estimates about the number of laborers and records for how many years it took to complete the work...
Construction Time For All of the Walls

If all the fortified walls that were built by the different dynasties and kingdoms around northern China are included, the total length would exceed 20,000 kilometers (12,000 miles). All these walls together were completed over a period of 22 centuries. It is probably impossible to calculate how many millions of people built the Great Wall or the man hours expended.

So why are you buying into the idea mankind can't do what they did 2,700 years ago?

I'm not.

I have no doubt that we could build a 12K mile wall over a period of more than 2000 years.

Obviously your under 35. No imagination, education or ambition.

My WHAT is under 35?
I'm twice that, well educated and ambitious enough to have worked since I was 13 and am now comfortably retired.

Its the Trumpery followers who don't have the gumption to address even one point in the links.

An Engineer Explains Why Trump’s Wall Is So Implausible

There are very few occasions in American political discourse that require the input of a structural engineer, but when Donald Trump took a question from Univision’s Jorge Ramos regarding his proposed United States-Mexico border wall at a press conference on August 25, I heard the clarion call:


RAMOS: How are you going to build a 1,900-mile wall?
TRUMP: Very easy. I’m a builder. That’s easy. I build buildings that are — can I tell you what’s more complicated? What’s more complicated is building a building that’s 95 stories tall. Okay?


No. Donald Trump is not a builder. Donald Trump could not build a doghouse. Donald Trump is a developer who pays what he would call “very, very smart people” to build things on his behalf. His response to Ramos’ question was meant both to exaggerate his understanding of construction and to downplay the challenges posed by his border wall project.

The challenge of Trump’s border wall is not technical, but logistical. The leap in complexity between “building a wall” and “building a 2,000-mile-long continuous border wall in the desert” is about equal to the gap between “killing a guy” and “waging a protracted land war.” Trump’s border wall, if built as he has described it, would be one of the largest civil works projects in the history of the country and would face an array of challenges not found when constructing 95-story skyscrapers.

Trumpery has no intention of "building a wall" but this thread is about the logistics of this fantastical project. John Oliver's segment explained many of the same things but this is more detailed. Even fans of Trumpery's trumpery will see why most people laugh at the idea of The Great Trump Wall.

Here in the 21st century we can't build a wall?
Good thing the Chinese didn't hear that 2,700 years ago.
Israel built a 500 mile wall. Hardly an engineering feat.

So you disagree with the points made by the engineer?

Please elaborate.

If the engineer made any points you highlighted none of them. You simply said "Look, he's an engineer," and pointed at some ad-homonyms. According to your very own op the engineer made no points. Don't ask someone to argue against what doesn't exist.

No, I did not say
"Look, he's an engineer".
Nor did I attack anyone's grammar or spelling.

The engineer made his points. Not one of the a trump fans has the integrity or courage to address any of them.

Step 1. Get funding
Step 2. Make a phone call. Better yet, call these guys. United States Army Corps of Engineers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .
Step 3. Supervise
Step 4. Laugh at you.

And then there's this jerk ^^ who lives in LaLaLand.

Stop humping Trumpery's leg and have the courage and integrity to address the points in the links.

I'll check back to see if any of you could but I doubt it.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Great Wall is 13,171 miles long.

Is our southern border longer than that?

How Long It Took to Built the Great Wall of China

It is actually a complicated question. There are several Great Walls that were built by different dynasties such as the Qin Great Wall and the better known Ming Great Wall. But there are estimates about the number of laborers and records for how many years it took to complete the work...
Construction Time For All of the Walls

If all the fortified walls that were built by the different dynasties and kingdoms around northern China are included, the total length would exceed 20,000 kilometers (12,000 miles). All these walls together were completed over a period of 22 centuries. It is probably impossible to calculate how many millions of people built the Great Wall or the man hours expended.

So why are you buying into the idea mankind can't do what they did 2,700 years ago?

I'm not.

I have no doubt that we could build a 12K mile wall over a period of more than 2000 years.

With todays equipment and materials, I'm fairly sure we could build one in far less time.

Weatherman was talking about a wall that did indeed take 2000 years to build. There is no comparison between the two.

Now the OP insists the wall must be built by hand.
What a baffoon

 

[Auld Phart]

Great Wall is 13,171 miles long.

Is our southern border longer than that?

How Long It Took to Built the Great Wall of China

It is actually a complicated question. There are several Great Walls that were built by different dynasties such as the Qin Great Wall and the better known Ming Great Wall. But there are estimates about the number of laborers and records for how many years it took to complete the work...
Construction Time For All of the Walls

If all the fortified walls that were built by the different dynasties and kingdoms around northern China are included, the total length would exceed 20,000 kilometers (12,000 miles). All these walls together were completed over a period of 22 centuries. It is probably impossible to calculate how many millions of people built the Great Wall or the man hours expended.

So why are you buying into the idea mankind can't do what they did 2,700 years ago?

I'm not.

I have no doubt that we could build a 12K mile wall over a period of more than 2000 years.

With todays equipment and materials, I'm fairly sure we could build one in far less time.

Weatherman was talking about a wall that did indeed take 2000 years to build. There is no comparison between the two.

I seriously doubt the wall considered would be wide enough for 2 way horse traffic, be built with the same materials, and would be erected by modern machinery instead of slave labor.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Roman Coliseum in Rome was built in 5 years over 2,000 years ago.

Why are you working so hard to change the subject?

I mean, surely you are smart enough to know that's a completely different subject. Right?

Address the points in the links and stop trying to derail the thread.

 

[Publius1787]

Great Wall is 13,171 miles long.

Is our southern border longer than that?

How Long It Took to Built the Great Wall of China

It is actually a complicated question. There are several Great Walls that were built by different dynasties such as the Qin Great Wall and the better known Ming Great Wall. But there are estimates about the number of laborers and records for how many years it took to complete the work...
Construction Time For All of the Walls

If all the fortified walls that were built by the different dynasties and kingdoms around northern China are included, the total length would exceed 20,000 kilometers (12,000 miles). All these walls together were completed over a period of 22 centuries. It is probably impossible to calculate how many millions of people built the Great Wall or the man hours expended.

So why are you buying into the idea mankind can't do what they did 2,700 years ago?

I'm not.

I have no doubt that we could build a 12K mile wall over a period of more than 2000 years.

With todays equipment and materials, I'm fairly sure we could build one in far less time.

Weatherman was talking about a wall that did indeed take 2000 years to build. There is no comparison between the two.

Great Wall is 13,171 miles long.

Is our southern border longer than that?

How Long It Took to Built the Great Wall of China

It is actually a complicated question. There are several Great Walls that were built by different dynasties such as the Qin Great Wall and the better known Ming Great Wall. But there are estimates about the number of laborers and records for how many years it took to complete the work...
Construction Time For All of the Walls

If all the fortified walls that were built by the different dynasties and kingdoms around northern China are included, the total length would exceed 20,000 kilometers (12,000 miles). All these walls together were completed over a period of 22 centuries. It is probably impossible to calculate how many millions of people built the Great Wall or the man hours expended.

So why are you buying into the idea mankind can't do what they did 2,700 years ago?

I'm not.

I have no doubt that we could build a 12K mile wall over a period of more than 2000 years.

Obviously your under 35. No imagination, education or ambition.

My WHAT is under 35?
I'm twice that, well educated and ambitious enough to have worked since I was 13 and am now comfortably retired.

Its the Trumpery followers who don't have the gumption to address even one point in the links.

Here in the 21st century we can't build a wall?
Good thing the Chinese didn't hear that 2,700 years ago.
Israel built a 500 mile wall. Hardly an engineering feat.

So you disagree with the points made by the engineer?

Please elaborate.

If the engineer made any points you highlighted none of them. You simply said "Look, he's an engineer," and pointed at some ad-homonyms. According to your very own op the engineer made no points. Don't ask someone to argue against what doesn't exist.

No, I did not say
"Look, he's an engineer".
Nor did I attack anyone's grammar or spelling.

The engineer made his points. Not one of the a trump fans has the integrity or courage to address any of them.

Step 1. Get funding
Step 2. Make a phone call. Better yet, call these guys. United States Army Corps of Engineers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .
Step 3. Supervise
Step 4. Laugh at you.

And then there's this jerk ^^ who lives in LaLaLand.

Stop humping Trumpery's leg and have the courage and integrity to address the points in the links.

I'll check back to see if any of you could but I doubt it.

The points in the links? It's your job to make the points of your own argument. What kind of academic laziness is this? Your essentially saying "Trumps an asshole because, cause, cause, well, read the damn link." Funny though, I thought liberals loved massive job creating stimulus projects. I guess they don't when it prevents possible future welfare recipient democrat voters into the U.S.

 

[DarkFury]

An Engineer Explains Why Trump’s Wall Is So Implausible

There are very few occasions in American political discourse that require the input of a structural engineer, but when Donald Trump took a question from Univision’s Jorge Ramos regarding his proposed United States-Mexico border wall at a press conference on August 25, I heard the clarion call:


RAMOS: How are you going to build a 1,900-mile wall?
TRUMP: Very easy. I’m a builder. That’s easy. I build buildings that are — can I tell you what’s more complicated? What’s more complicated is building a building that’s 95 stories tall. Okay?


No. Donald Trump is not a builder. Donald Trump could not build a doghouse. Donald Trump is a developer who pays what he would call “very, very smart people” to build things on his behalf. His response to Ramos’ question was meant both to exaggerate his understanding of construction and to downplay the challenges posed by his border wall project.

The challenge of Trump’s border wall is not technical, but logistical. The leap in complexity between “building a wall” and “building a 2,000-mile-long continuous border wall in the desert” is about equal to the gap between “killing a guy” and “waging a protracted land war.” Trump’s border wall, if built as he has described it, would be one of the largest civil works projects in the history of the country and would face an array of challenges not found when constructing 95-story skyscrapers.

Trumpery has no intention of "building a wall" but this thread is about the logistics of this fantastical project. John Oliver's segment explained many of the same things but this is more detailed. Even fans of Trumpery's trumpery will see why most people laugh at the idea of The Great Trump Wall.

I do not need to read your thread to say Trump can build all the walls he want and that same contractor that built the wall would build the tunnels for free...

The Wall is stupid and fixing the economy and corruption in Mexico would do more to stem the illegal immigration but let not discuss something that take thinking!

The wall would fix the economy and corruption IN Mexico idiot.
The Mexican government would be forced to deal with its own problems and people.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Great Wall is 13,171 miles long.

Is our southern border longer than that?

How Long It Took to Built the Great Wall of China

It is actually a complicated question. There are several Great Walls that were built by different dynasties such as the Qin Great Wall and the better known Ming Great Wall. But there are estimates about the number of laborers and records for how many years it took to complete the work...
Construction Time For All of the Walls

If all the fortified walls that were built by the different dynasties and kingdoms around northern China are included, the total length would exceed 20,000 kilometers (12,000 miles). All these walls together were completed over a period of 22 centuries. It is probably impossible to calculate how many millions of people built the Great Wall or the man hours expended.

So why are you buying into the idea mankind can't do what they did 2,700 years ago?

I'm not.

I have no doubt that we could build a 12K mile wall over a period of more than 2000 years.

Obviously your under 35. No imagination, education or ambition.

My WHAT is under 35?
I'm twice that, well educated and ambitious enough to have worked since I was 13 and am now comfortably retired.

Its the Trumpery followers who don't have the gumption to address even one point in the links.

Here in the 21st century we can't build a wall?
Good thing the Chinese didn't hear that 2,700 years ago.
Israel built a 500 mile wall. Hardly an engineering feat.

So you disagree with the points made by the engineer?

Please elaborate.

If the engineer made any points you highlighted none of them. You simply said "Look, he's an engineer," and pointed at some ad-homonyms. According to your very own op the engineer made no points. Don't ask someone to argue against what doesn't exist.

No, I did not say
"Look, he's an engineer".
Nor did I attack anyone's grammar or spelling.

The engineer made his points. Not one of the a trump fans has the integrity or courage to address any of them.

Step 1. Get funding
Step 2. Make a phone call. Better yet, call these guys. United States Army Corps of Engineers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .
Step 3. Supervise
Step 4. Laugh at you.

And then there's this jerk ^^ who lives in LaLaLand.

Stop humping Trumpery's leg and have the courage and integrity to address the points in the links.

I'll check back to see if any of you could but I doubt it.

Well, I'm an engineer with a US patent in my name and my parts flying in the air and in space.
Go back to your hole, dug by hand I'm sure.

 

[idb]

An Engineer Explains Why Trump’s Wall Is So Implausible

There are very few occasions in American political discourse that require the input of a structural engineer, but when Donald Trump took a question from Univision’s Jorge Ramos regarding his proposed United States-Mexico border wall at a press conference on August 25, I heard the clarion call:


RAMOS: How are you going to build a 1,900-mile wall?
TRUMP: Very easy. I’m a builder. That’s easy. I build buildings that are — can I tell you what’s more complicated? What’s more complicated is building a building that’s 95 stories tall. Okay?


No. Donald Trump is not a builder. Donald Trump could not build a doghouse. Donald Trump is a developer who pays what he would call “very, very smart people” to build things on his behalf. His response to Ramos’ question was meant both to exaggerate his understanding of construction and to downplay the challenges posed by his border wall project.

The challenge of Trump’s border wall is not technical, but logistical. The leap in complexity between “building a wall” and “building a 2,000-mile-long continuous border wall in the desert” is about equal to the gap between “killing a guy” and “waging a protracted land war.” Trump’s border wall, if built as he has described it, would be one of the largest civil works projects in the history of the country and would face an array of challenges not found when constructing 95-story skyscrapers.

Trumpery has no intention of "building a wall" but this thread is about the logistics of this fantastical project. John Oliver's segment explained many of the same things but this is more detailed. Even fans of Trumpery's trumpery will see why most people laugh at the idea of The Great Trump Wall.

Here in the 21st century we can't build a wall?
Good thing the Chinese didn't hear that 2,700 years ago.
Israel built a 500 mile wall. Hardly an engineering feat.

Moreover we aren't even asking that they make it out of stone. In fact we aren't even requiring that we can walk on the wall. Nor are we asking that it span 13,000 miles. I could go behind a Home Depot, hire a few illegals, and have it done in record speed at a fraction of the cost before I shoved them over to the other side of the wall.

That reminds me of Donald's $3 websites.
Donald Trump and His $3 Website

 

[Luddly Neddite]

How Long It Took to Built the Great Wall of China

It is actually a complicated question. There are several Great Walls that were built by different dynasties such as the Qin Great Wall and the better known Ming Great Wall. But there are estimates about the number of laborers and records for how many years it took to complete the work...
Construction Time For All of the Walls

If all the fortified walls that were built by the different dynasties and kingdoms around northern China are included, the total length would exceed 20,000 kilometers (12,000 miles). All these walls together were completed over a period of 22 centuries. It is probably impossible to calculate how many millions of people built the Great Wall or the man hours expended.

So why are you buying into the idea mankind can't do what they did 2,700 years ago?

I'm not.

I have no doubt that we could build a 12K mile wall over a period of more than 2000 years.

With todays equipment and materials, I'm fairly sure we could build one in far less time.

Weatherman was talking about a wall that did indeed take 2000 years to build. There is no comparison between the two.

Now the OP insists the wall must be built by hand.
What a baffoon

No.

It was YOU who said the China Walls are the same as Trumpery's wall.
It is YOU who is the b-u-f-f-o-o-n.

Address the information in the links and stop trying to derail the thread.

Or not.
Fuck it.
Trumpery fans are just too damn dumb to actually read the schematics in the link.

 

[DarkFury]

Roman Coliseum in Rome was built in 5 years over 2,000 years ago.

Why are you working so hard to change the subject?

I mean, surely you are smart enough to know that's a completely different subject. Right?

Address the points in the links and stop trying to derail the thread.

One construction project vs another seems quite fair. Lets see, idiots just like you said...
The Panama canal was IMPOSSIBLE.
The Hoover damn was IMPOSSIBLE.
Going to the moon was IMPOSSIBLE.

All claimed by small minded idiots who hated America and Americans.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

How Long It Took to Built the Great Wall of China

It is actually a complicated question. There are several Great Walls that were built by different dynasties such as the Qin Great Wall and the better known Ming Great Wall. But there are estimates about the number of laborers and records for how many years it took to complete the work...
Construction Time For All of the Walls

If all the fortified walls that were built by the different dynasties and kingdoms around northern China are included, the total length would exceed 20,000 kilometers (12,000 miles). All these walls together were completed over a period of 22 centuries. It is probably impossible to calculate how many millions of people built the Great Wall or the man hours expended.

So why are you buying into the idea mankind can't do what they did 2,700 years ago?

I'm not.

I have no doubt that we could build a 12K mile wall over a period of more than 2000 years.

Obviously your under 35. No imagination, education or ambition.

My WHAT is under 35?
I'm twice that, well educated and ambitious enough to have worked since I was 13 and am now comfortably retired.

Its the Trumpery followers who don't have the gumption to address even one point in the links.

So you disagree with the points made by the engineer?

Please elaborate.

If the engineer made any points you highlighted none of them. You simply said "Look, he's an engineer," and pointed at some ad-homonyms. According to your very own op the engineer made no points. Don't ask someone to argue against what doesn't exist.

No, I did not say
"Look, he's an engineer".
Nor did I attack anyone's grammar or spelling.

The engineer made his points. Not one of the a trump fans has the integrity or courage to address any of them.

Step 1. Get funding
Step 2. Make a phone call. Better yet, call these guys. United States Army Corps of Engineers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .
Step 3. Supervise
Step 4. Laugh at you.

And then there's this jerk ^^ who lives in LaLaLand.

Stop humping Trumpery's leg and have the courage and integrity to address the points in the links.

I'll check back to see if any of you could but I doubt it.

Well, I'm an engineer with a US patent in my name and my parts flying in the air and in space.
Go back to your hole, dug by hand I'm sure.

Then why can't you understand the engineer's schematics?

Hmmm?

 

[pismoe]

here you go Luddley , what would it take to build the border wall . --- What it would take to build Trump's border wall - CNN Video --- lots of wall talk on the board today .

 

[Publius1787]

An Engineer Explains Why Trump’s Wall Is So Implausible

There are very few occasions in American political discourse that require the input of a structural engineer, but when Donald Trump took a question from Univision’s Jorge Ramos regarding his proposed United States-Mexico border wall at a press conference on August 25, I heard the clarion call:


RAMOS: How are you going to build a 1,900-mile wall?
TRUMP: Very easy. I’m a builder. That’s easy. I build buildings that are — can I tell you what’s more complicated? What’s more complicated is building a building that’s 95 stories tall. Okay?


No. Donald Trump is not a builder. Donald Trump could not build a doghouse. Donald Trump is a developer who pays what he would call “very, very smart people” to build things on his behalf. His response to Ramos’ question was meant both to exaggerate his understanding of construction and to downplay the challenges posed by his border wall project.

The challenge of Trump’s border wall is not technical, but logistical. The leap in complexity between “building a wall” and “building a 2,000-mile-long continuous border wall in the desert” is about equal to the gap between “killing a guy” and “waging a protracted land war.” Trump’s border wall, if built as he has described it, would be one of the largest civil works projects in the history of the country and would face an array of challenges not found when constructing 95-story skyscrapers.

Trumpery has no intention of "building a wall" but this thread is about the logistics of this fantastical project. John Oliver's segment explained many of the same things but this is more detailed. Even fans of Trumpery's trumpery will see why most people laugh at the idea of The Great Trump Wall.

Here in the 21st century we can't build a wall?
Good thing the Chinese didn't hear that 2,700 years ago.
Israel built a 500 mile wall. Hardly an engineering feat.

Moreover we aren't even asking that they make it out of stone. In fact we aren't even requiring that we can walk on the wall. Nor are we asking that it span 13,000 miles. I could go behind a Home Depot, hire a few illegals, and have it done in record speed at a fraction of the cost before I shoved them over to the other side of the wall.

That reminds me of Donald's $3 websites.
Donald Trump and His $3 Website

It does? Good, now tell me something else that has nothing to do with the merits of the argument presented in the Op. Indeed, we'll make it all about what you want to talk about.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

How Long It Took to Built the Great Wall of China

It is actually a complicated question. There are several Great Walls that were built by different dynasties such as the Qin Great Wall and the better known Ming Great Wall. But there are estimates about the number of laborers and records for how many years it took to complete the work...
Construction Time For All of the Walls

If all the fortified walls that were built by the different dynasties and kingdoms around northern China are included, the total length would exceed 20,000 kilometers (12,000 miles). All these walls together were completed over a period of 22 centuries. It is probably impossible to calculate how many millions of people built the Great Wall or the man hours expended.

So why are you buying into the idea mankind can't do what they did 2,700 years ago?

I'm not.

I have no doubt that we could build a 12K mile wall over a period of more than 2000 years.

With todays equipment and materials, I'm fairly sure we could build one in far less time.

Weatherman was talking about a wall that did indeed take 2000 years to build. There is no comparison between the two.

How Long It Took to Built the Great Wall of China

It is actually a complicated question. There are several Great Walls that were built by different dynasties such as the Qin Great Wall and the better known Ming Great Wall. But there are estimates about the number of laborers and records for how many years it took to complete the work...
Construction Time For All of the Walls

If all the fortified walls that were built by the different dynasties and kingdoms around northern China are included, the total length would exceed 20,000 kilometers (12,000 miles). All these walls together were completed over a period of 22 centuries. It is probably impossible to calculate how many millions of people built the Great Wall or the man hours expended.

So why are you buying into the idea mankind can't do what they did 2,700 years ago?

I'm not.

I have no doubt that we could build a 12K mile wall over a period of more than 2000 years.

Obviously your under 35. No imagination, education or ambition.

My WHAT is under 35?
I'm twice that, well educated and ambitious enough to have worked since I was 13 and am now comfortably retired.

Its the Trumpery followers who don't have the gumption to address even one point in the links.

So you disagree with the points made by the engineer?

Please elaborate.

If the engineer made any points you highlighted none of them. You simply said "Look, he's an engineer," and pointed at some ad-homonyms. According to your very own op the engineer made no points. Don't ask someone to argue against what doesn't exist.

No, I did not say
"Look, he's an engineer".
Nor did I attack anyone's grammar or spelling.

The engineer made his points. Not one of the a trump fans has the integrity or courage to address any of them.

Step 1. Get funding
Step 2. Make a phone call. Better yet, call these guys. United States Army Corps of Engineers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .
Step 3. Supervise
Step 4. Laugh at you.

And then there's this jerk ^^ who lives in LaLaLand.

Stop humping Trumpery's leg and have the courage and integrity to address the points in the links.

I'll check back to see if any of you could but I doubt it.

The points in the links? It's your job to make the points of your own argument. What kind of academic laziness is this? Your essentially saying "Trumps an asshole because, cause, cause, well, read the damn link." Funny though, I thought liberals loved massive job creating stimulus projects. I guess they don't when it prevents possible future welfare recipient democrat voters into the U.S.

IOW, you can't understand the facts and schematics either.

I apologize for posting something that is so far over the heads of the trumpkins.

G'night kiddies.