Enough of this transgender nonsense.

[ChrisL]

It is unethical to perform disfiguring surgery on a person who has no physical anomalies.

Even hermaphrodites?

That is a genetic mutation . . . again. Transgenders have XX or XY chromosomes.

 

[Jack4jill]

It's entirely related. If you can define what is male and what is female, just forget trying to say transgenders are wrong, you can't figure out what the hell they were in the first place, which leaves it up to them, not you.

Read the topic headline. It's about transgenders.

I don't give a fuck. To be transgender you have to be able to define gender, and you can't, not even at the XY-XX level.

If you can't define gender, then how can anyone claim to be "transgender?"

That's what we call them only, it's not true unless you can define gender? Can you?

What gender is an XX male, which a penis, male or female?

You are a psycho. Lol.

Since you can't answer, you do not know, and therefor cannot define gender. Case closed.

 

[ChrisL]

Read the topic headline. It's about transgenders.

I don't give a fuck. To be transgender you have to be able to define gender, and you can't, not even at the XY-XX level.

If you can't define gender, then how can anyone claim to be "transgender?"

That's what we call them only, it's not true unless you can define gender? Can you?

What gender is an XX male, which a penis, male or female?

You are a psycho. Lol.

Since you can't answer, you do not know, and therefor cannot define gender. Case closed.

I already answered. It's a genetic mutation and does not apply to the transgenders who have XX or XY chromosomes.

 

[Tilly]

I don't give a fuck. To be transgender you have to be able to define gender, and you can't, not even at the XY-XX level.

If you can't define gender, then how can anyone claim to be "transgender?"

That's what we call them only, it's not true unless you can define gender? Can you?

What gender is an XX male, which a penis, male or female?

You are a psycho. Lol.

Since you can't answer, you do not know, and therefor cannot define gender. Case closed.

I already answered. It's a genetic mutation and does not apply to the transgenders who have XX or XY chromosomes.

You have the patience of a saint

 

[Jack4jill]

It's entirely related. If you can't define what is male and what is female, just forget trying to say transgenders are wrong, you can't figure out what the hell they were in the first place, which leaves it up to them, not you.

They are obviously suffering from a mental illness that needs treatment. Their minds need treatments, not their perfectly healthy and normal bodies. The operations and hormones can and do cause serious problems and can lead to disfigurement, infection, chronic pain and even early death.

An XX male wants his penis cut off, is he transgender, yes or no? Just yes, or no.

Any way you look at it, he's a psychological mess, and we shouldn't design social policy around mixed up freaks.

Yes or no?

Why do you imagine it's important how we define 0.001% of the population?

It's not 0.0001%, it's 100 percent. What is male and what is female?

If you can't say then there is no such thing as transgender.

An XX male wants to look female, is he transgender, yes or no?

 

[Jack4jill]

I don't give a fuck. To be transgender you have to be able to define gender, and you can't, not even at the XY-XX level.

If you can't define gender, then how can anyone claim to be "transgender?"

That's what we call them only, it's not true unless you can define gender? Can you?

What gender is an XX male, which a penis, male or female?

You are a psycho. Lol.

Since you can't answer, you do not know, and therefor cannot define gender. Case closed.

I already answered. It's a genetic mutation and does not apply to the transgenders who have XX or XY chromosomes.

You didn't answer and it is not a mutation you dumb bitch.

 

[Lilah]

It is unethical to perform disfiguring surgery on a person who has no physical anomalies.

Even hermaphrodites?

That is a genetic mutation . . . again. Transgenders have XX or XY chromosomes.

What if parents chose the gender of the hermaphrodite and had a doctor perform the surgery when the hermaphrodite was a baby, and the baby grew up to be the opposite of what was chosen for them?

 

[ChrisL]

It is unethical to perform disfiguring surgery on a person who has no physical anomalies.

Even hermaphrodites?

That is a genetic mutation . . . again. Transgenders have XX or XY chromosomes.

What if parents chose the gender of the hermaphrodite and had a doctor perform the surgery when the hermaphrodite was a baby, and the baby grew up to be the opposite of what was chosen for them?

That's because the child had a genetic anomaly and may be a sad outcome for the child, but does not apply to transgenders who do not suffer from any such anomalies.

 

[Jack4jill]

When one of you bitches can tell me what is male and what is female, we'll move on.

XX with a penis, male or female?

 

[emilynghiem]

^ We CAN prove transgenders are wrong if they treat other people
in the same discriminatory/bullying way as they are complaining is unfair to them ^

Do you agree Jack4jill ?

They aren't.

It depends on the situation Jack4jill

1. If some Christians believe "ALL LGBT people are unnatural and can change"
and exclude Christian gays who say they did try to change but found out they couldn't and
that was God's will,
that is wrong to exclude someone's beliefs
and so is the opposite:

If LGBT argue that ALL LGBT are natural and CANNOT change
and exclude people who used to identify as homosexual but changed
and are now happily married heterosexuals with kids
isn't that WRONG to exclude THEM?

Now add to that another layer:

2. If LGBT argue that ALL CHRISTIANS who believe LGBT people can change
are 100% wrong and BIGOTS
(when in fact, many people have experiences where they changed
orientation from either homosexual to heterosexual or heterosexual to homosexual)
isn't that as wrong as
if Christians argue that ALL LGBT are sick
and are enabling PEDOPHILES
(when in fact more pedophiles are heterosexual)
aren't they BOTH equally
wrong to collectively generalize and label whole groups
based on one negative stereotype?

I'm not saying if Transgender are wrong that makes others right.
I'm saying they can BOTH be equally wrong to discriminate unfairly against each other!

Are you saying that NO Transgender people can be wrong?
I've never met any PERSON much less any GROUP
that was 100% right or wrong on ANYTHING.

What are you saying Jack4jill?

 

[Jack4jill]

It is unethical to perform disfiguring surgery on a person who has no physical anomalies.

Even hermaphrodites?

That is a genetic mutation . . . again. Transgenders have XX or XY chromosomes.

What if parents chose the gender of the hermaphrodite and had a doctor perform the surgery when the hermaphrodite was a baby, and the baby grew up to be the opposite of what was chosen for them?

That's because the child had a genetic anomaly and may be a sad outcome for the child, but does not apply to transgenders who do not suffer from any such anomalies.

Transgenders can pick, babies can't. You lose, unless you are going to say the baby should not be made to look more normal? Are you?

 

[ChrisL]

When one of you bitches can tell me what is male and what is female, we'll move on.

XX with a penis, male or female?

Sorry, if you don't know, we can't help you, psycho.

 

[ChrisL]

It is unethical to perform disfiguring surgery on a person who has no physical anomalies.

Even hermaphrodites?

That is a genetic mutation . . . again. Transgenders have XX or XY chromosomes.

What if parents chose the gender of the hermaphrodite and had a doctor perform the surgery when the hermaphrodite was a baby, and the baby grew up to be the opposite of what was chosen for them?

That's because the child had a genetic anomaly and may be a sad outcome for the child, but does not apply to transgenders who do not suffer from any such anomalies.

Transgenders can pick, babies can't. You lose, unless you are going to say the baby should not be made to look more normal? Are you?

Transgenders don't have these genetic mutations. Apples and oranges. If you want to talk about birth defects, then go start a thread about it.

 

[Jack4jill]

When one of you bitches can tell me what is male and what is female, we'll move on.

XX with a penis, male or female?

Sorry, if you don't know, we can't help you, psycho.

It's male, you dumb bitch.

And it that male wants to be female, he's not transgender.

 

[Lilah]

It is unethical to perform disfiguring surgery on a person who has no physical anomalies.

Even hermaphrodites?

That is a genetic mutation . . . again. Transgenders have XX or XY chromosomes.

What if parents chose the gender of the hermaphrodite and had a doctor perform the surgery when the hermaphrodite was a baby, and the baby grew up to be the opposite of what was chosen for them?

That's because the child had a genetic anomaly and may be a sad outcome for the child, but does not apply to transgenders who do not suffer from any such anomalies.

You don't make any sense If the child was altered to be a boy, and was really mean to be a girl, wouldn't he be considered a transgender if he was transitioning into becoming a female?

 

[emilynghiem]

When one of you bitches can tell me what is male and what is female, we'll move on.

XX with a penis, male or female?

Jack4jill

If the person identifies as male and chooses to keep the penis
they are choosing to be identified as male.

If the person identifies as female and chooses to lose the penis
they are choosing to be identified as female.

Asking people to choose one identity or another for convenience sake
is not a bad thing, or we wouldn't have political parties or religions
either. We wouldn't have states if people didn't agree to live under
one geographic identity or another, and agree to be under those laws.

 

[Jack4jill]

Even hermaphrodites?

That is a genetic mutation . . . again. Transgenders have XX or XY chromosomes.

What if parents chose the gender of the hermaphrodite and had a doctor perform the surgery when the hermaphrodite was a baby, and the baby grew up to be the opposite of what was chosen for them?

That's because the child had a genetic anomaly and may be a sad outcome for the child, but does not apply to transgenders who do not suffer from any such anomalies.

Transgenders can pick, babies can't. You lose, unless you are going to say the baby should not be made to look more normal? Are you?

Transgenders don't have these genetic mutations. Apples and oranges. If you want to talk about birth defects, then go start a thread about it.

How do you know they don't?

You don't, and you can't say what gender is anyway so don't worry about it.

 

[Boss]

The reason here is simple, people will exploit that situation who are not transgender but want to gain access for other reasons.

There is absolutely nothing to show that this would be true? Nothing. It's right-wing fear mongering, plain and simple.

Nope... it's called COMMON SENSE..... plain and simple.

And it certainly IS true because it's already happening. There have been hundreds of reported cases around the country since this all started.

 

[ChrisL]

When one of you bitches can tell me what is male and what is female, we'll move on.

XX with a penis, male or female?

Sorry, if you don't know, we can't help you, psycho.

It's male, you dumb bitch.

And it that male wants to be female, he's not transgender.

Right, that is a person who has a birth defect. A transgendered person does not have those genetic mutations. A transgendered person is a person who was born with either XX or XY chromosomes and "thinks" or "wants to be" the opposite sex. Therefore, the problem lies within the mind of such an individual, not in their chromosomes which are completely normal.

 

[Jack4jill]

When one of you bitches can tell me what is male and what is female, we'll move on.

XX with a penis, male or female?

Jack4jill

If the person identifies as male and chooses to keep the penis
they are choosing to be identified as male.

If the person identifies as female and chooses to lose the penis
they are choosing to be identified as female.

That's correct because gender is in the mind, not the body or the genetics.