EVERYONE!!! Including the MSM that should KNOW better! The difference between absentee voting and JUNK MAIL voting!

Well, since 60% of voters didn't vote by mail in 2016, logic dictates that the only conclusion is that they didn't vote. Might as well go count all the people that didn't sign the roster at a polling place. OMG, they're missing!!!! :lol:
60% didn't vote and 60% didn't vote by mail. LOL
 
Well, since 60% of voters didn't vote by mail in 2016, logic dictates that the only conclusion is that they didn't vote. Might as well go count all the people that didn't sign the roster at a polling place. OMG, they're missing!!!! :lol:
60% didn't vote and 60% didn't vote by mail. LOL
Sorry, flipped the numbers. Just over 60% of citizens voted in 2016.

The following data points are among this year’s primary findings:

Turnout
  • Sixty-three percent of the U.S. civilian voting age population, 140,114,502 million Americans, voted in the 2016 Presidential Election.

  • Five states – Colorado, Maine, Minnesota, New Hampshire and Oregon – had turnout rates exceeding 70 percent.
Pre-election Voting
  • In 2016, more than 41 percent of all ballots were cast before Election Day. Of the total turnout, approximately 17 percent of ballots were cast using in-person early voting and nearly 24 percent were cast using by-mail absentee voting.
  • By mail absentee voting rates vary dramatically across states. Nationally, 79.9 percent of absentee ballots transmitted to absentee voters were returned and 99 percent of returned ballots were counted.
 

28 million ballots did not go missing. They were simply not returned. This is fake news.

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I get so frustrated that the MSM especially doesn't seem to make the distinction between "absentee voting" and "JUNK MAIL Voting"!
I've called it "JUNK MAIL voting" because "JUNK MAIL voting" is simple. The election offices simply MAIL ballots to the addresses they have on record.
YUP... KNOWING that nationally that 10.1% move each year that means for example 1 million addresses 100,000 people addressed HAVE moved.
So what happens to those 100,000 ballots?
NOW versus ABSENTEE balloting which REQUIRES the voter to REQUEST a ballot which is sent AFTER the election office VALIDATES the person requested is a legitimate citizen...i.e. using photo id or some other verification process including the signature on the request. THEN an absentee ballot is MAILED and the recipient completed the ballot... puts into an covering envelope and then puts into a provided mailing envelope THAT the voter SIGNS again. Once the absentee ballot received the outside signature checked against signature on file to verify the identity !

SO do all of you (INCLUDING the MSM!!!) NOW understand the distinction?
JUNK MAIL has no verification that the recipient is at the address...with 10% of Americans moving every year... millions of incorrect mail!
ABSENTEE ballot though are REQUESTED not JUNK MAILED!
Absentee ballot is signed and verified ...JUNK MAIL is NOT!

Understand the distinctions???

There is no distinction. Sending ballots to registered voters is perfectly legitimate. Several states have done it for years with no issues. There are ways to detect fraud. The attempt to commit fraud using absentee ballots in a NC congressional race was detected. There is no evidence of massive fraud.

Absentee ballot requests do not require a photo id. In my state, it can be done online. They do not need to determine whether you are a citizen if you are on the voting rolls. There is no need to have 2 envelopes. That was never done to prevent fraud. It was a privacy issue which is no longer relevant.

They are both the same whether you like it or not.

THEY ARE NOT the same!!! You have to REQUEST an absentee ballot!
BUT JUNK MAIL means just that ! Ballots are mailed out without a request! Hence with 10% of Americans moving every year and say
100 million ballots are JUNK MAILED... 10 million ballots can be forged, returned and counted!
Why can't you see the distinction? Absentee means I asked for the ballot! JUNK MAIL means I'm mailed even though I'm not at that address!
DO YOU GET IT???

They are the same. It is just 2 different ways of getting a ballot. The only JUNK is in your head. There is no distinction, The difference is you don't want to make it easy to vote. That is all this is about.
 
It seems to me any inaccuracies in the "junk" mail voting role would also show up in the voter role used at the physical polling location on election day.
 
The ballots are the same whether you request them or not


THEY ARE THE SAME THING
LMAO @ the Stupid Shit Leftist believe .....

Folks you can't make this shit up.

They don't call 'em Useful Idiots for 'nuffin !!!!

They are EXACTLY the same.
Which means that if you moved, someone else gets your ballot (and your vote)....
Why would a person risk a felony charge, by filling out a ballot for someone else that was sent to them at their address?

And how would this alleged fraudster FAKE the ballot person's signature on file?


YOU are WAY OFF BASE with your assumptions, that simply don't happen... :rolleyes:
 
I get so frustrated that the MSM especially doesn't seem to make the distinction between "absentee voting" and "JUNK MAIL Voting"!
I've called it "JUNK MAIL voting" because "JUNK MAIL voting" is simple. The election offices simply MAIL ballots to the addresses they have on record.
YUP... KNOWING that nationally that 10.1% move each year that means for example 1 million addresses 100,000 people addressed HAVE moved.
So what happens to those 100,000 ballots?
NOW versus ABSENTEE balloting which REQUIRES the voter to REQUEST a ballot which is sent AFTER the election office VALIDATES the person requested is a legitimate citizen...i.e. using photo id or some other verification process including the signature on the request. THEN an absentee ballot is MAILED and the recipient completed the ballot... puts into an covering envelope and then puts into a provided mailing envelope THAT the voter SIGNS again. Once the absentee ballot received the outside signature checked against signature on file to verify the identity !

SO do all of you (INCLUDING the MSM!!!) NOW understand the distinction?
JUNK MAIL has no verification that the recipient is at the address...with 10% of Americans moving every year... millions of incorrect mail!
ABSENTEE ballot though are REQUESTED not JUNK MAILED!
Absentee ballot is signed and verified ...JUNK MAIL is NOT!

Understand the distinctions???

The distinction is this:

Some states have mailed ballots to every registered voter for years. There has never been any contention that these elections were not legitimate. Until the blob showed up. Now you're crying like a little bitch about it because you've been programmed to.

YOU are f...king IDIOT!!! Don't you comprehend the distinction here?
GEEZ I've voted absentee for nearly 15 years in FL!
So has Trump the last couple of years! ABSENTEE meaning WE REQUESTED the ballot!
HOW dumb are you?
The election office MAILS out BALLOTS to people that they have addresses for.
NOT for people who ASKED but MASS JUNK MAILING!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND?>?? Naw... I don't think you comprehend even such a simple distinction.!

How can I make it more clear?
JUNK MAIL ballots are NOT ASKED for! JUST mailed out like JUNK MAIL!
With 10% of Americans moving every year that means if 100 million JUNK MAIL ballots are mailed 10 million ballots can be forged!
FORGED you stupidly ask? YES... What would you do if you got a ballot mailed to your address but NOT YOUR NAME?
It's a correct address BUT YOU didn't ask for it and YOU aren't the person on the ballot that the election office has on RECORD at
your address! Don't you comprehend the distinction???
GEEZ!!!!!

In states that automatically mail out ballots, and have done so for years - they mail them out to people on the registered voters list, to the address on file. That's the same as what some other states are doing now. Mailing to people on the registered voter list. It's not "junk mail". And it's no different than the way these other states have done it.

The one complaint, which could make sense is that the states just staring out on it have not yet built up the infrastructure to make it work smoothly.
NO the JUNK MAIL process is ALL people on the voting rolls are mailed ballots regardless if requested.
Consequently the addresses are incorrect!
In Jefferson County, Kentucky, the state’s largest, 3,848 absentee ballots were rejected in the June primary due to lack of a voter signature. That was out of roughly 180,000 absentee ballots cast. Not all states give voters a quick and easy way to fix problems.

That is what I said. ALL REGISTERED VOTERS. Only registered voters.

That is not "junk mail".

EXACTLY the same as states like Utah, that have been doing this for years with - shock! - NO PROBLEMS.
But ABSENTEE voting means requesting a ballot! JUNK MAIL voting the person at the address GETS A BALLOT !
NO matching of recipient and address .
 
The ballots are the same whether you request them or not


THEY ARE THE SAME THING
LMAO @ the Stupid Shit Leftist believe .....

Folks you can't make this shit up.

They don't call 'em Useful Idiots for 'nuffin !!!!

They are EXACTLY the same.
Which means that if you moved, someone else gets your ballot (and your vote)....
Why would a person risk a felony charge, by filling out a ballot for someone else that was sent to them at their address?

And how would this alleged fraudster FAKE the ballot person's signature on file?


YOU are WAY OFF BASE with your assumptions, that simply don't happen... :rolleyes:
Washington state, which has held all-mail elections for years, has a rejection rate of between 1% and 2%, Kylee Zabel, a spokeswoman for Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman, told Salon.

"Ballots are most commonly rejected for late postmarks, or missing or mismatched signatures," Zabel explained.
 
The ballots are the same whether you request them or not


THEY ARE THE SAME THING
LMAO @ the Stupid Shit Leftist believe .....

Folks you can't make this shit up.

They don't call 'em Useful Idiots for 'nuffin !!!!

They are EXACTLY the same.
Which means that if you moved, someone else gets your ballot (and your vote)....
Why would a person risk a felony charge, by filling out a ballot for someone else that was sent to them at their address?

And how would this alleged fraudster FAKE the ballot person's signature on file?


YOU are WAY OFF BASE with your assumptions, that simply don't happen... :rolleyes:
Washington state, which has held all-mail elections for years, has a rejection rate of between 1% and 2%, Kylee Zabel, a spokeswoman for Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman, told Salon.

"Ballots are most commonly rejected for late postmarks, or missing or mismatched signatures," Zabel explained.
Votes being rejected because of a technicality, without contacting the rejected ballot voter, to give them a chance to correct their signature problem, etc.... IS A REAL PROBLEM and disenfranchised the citizen of their vote, on a technicality...

But that is not voter fraud, it is incompetence.
 
I get so frustrated that the MSM especially doesn't seem to make the distinction between "absentee voting" and "JUNK MAIL Voting"!
I've called it "JUNK MAIL voting" because "JUNK MAIL voting" is simple. The election offices simply MAIL ballots to the addresses they have on record.
YUP... KNOWING that nationally that 10.1% move each year that means for example 1 million addresses 100,000 people addressed HAVE moved.
So what happens to those 100,000 ballots?
NOW versus ABSENTEE balloting which REQUIRES the voter to REQUEST a ballot which is sent AFTER the election office VALIDATES the person requested is a legitimate citizen...i.e. using photo id or some other verification process including the signature on the request. THEN an absentee ballot is MAILED and the recipient completed the ballot... puts into an covering envelope and then puts into a provided mailing envelope THAT the voter SIGNS again. Once the absentee ballot received the outside signature checked against signature on file to verify the identity !

SO do all of you (INCLUDING the MSM!!!) NOW understand the distinction?
JUNK MAIL has no verification that the recipient is at the address...with 10% of Americans moving every year... millions of incorrect mail!
ABSENTEE ballot though are REQUESTED not JUNK MAILED!
Absentee ballot is signed and verified ...JUNK MAIL is NOT!

Understand the distinctions???


of course they know the difference, they know that they can cheat with mail voting, thats why the dems are pushing it so hard, they know they can never win a fair honest election, and must cheat to have any chance.
 
Why would a person risk a felony charge, by filling out a ballot for someone else that was sent to them at their address?

And how would this alleged fraudster FAKE the ballot person's signature on file?


YOU are WAY OFF BASE with your assumptions, that simply don't happen... :rolleyes:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ See ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Obiwan these Leftist Idiots are really just that Stupid.
can you take a shot at answering my first two questions posed???
 
The ballots are the same whether you request them or not


THEY ARE THE SAME THING
LMAO @ the Stupid Shit Leftist believe .....

Folks you can't make this shit up.

They don't call 'em Useful Idiots for 'nuffin !!!!

They are EXACTLY the same.
Which means that if you moved, someone else gets your ballot (and your vote)....
Why would a person risk a felony charge, by filling out a ballot for someone else that was sent to them at their address?

And how would this alleged fraudster FAKE the ballot person's signature on file?


YOU are WAY OFF BASE with your assumptions, that simply don't happen... :rolleyes:
Washington state, which has held all-mail elections for years, has a rejection rate of between 1% and 2%, Kylee Zabel, a spokeswoman for Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman, told Salon.

"Ballots are most commonly rejected for late postmarks, or missing or mismatched signatures," Zabel explained.
Votes being rejected because of a technicality, without contacting the rejected ballot voter, to give them a chance to correct their signature problem, etc.... IS A REAL PROBLEM and disenfranchised the citizen of their vote, on a technicality...

But that is not voter fraud, it is incompetence.


so the election committee in each state is supposed to contact personally every voter to correct any errors on the ballot? do you have any idea how many years that would take?

what you are saying is that many american voters are incompetent, but you still want them voting because you know that they are actually dependent sheep who will do what their masters dictate.
 
I get so frustrated that the MSM especially doesn't seem to make the distinction between "absentee voting" and "JUNK MAIL Voting"!
I've called it "JUNK MAIL voting" because "JUNK MAIL voting" is simple. The election offices simply MAIL ballots to the addresses they have on record.
YUP... KNOWING that nationally that 10.1% move each year that means for example 1 million addresses 100,000 people addressed HAVE moved.
So what happens to those 100,000 ballots?
NOW versus ABSENTEE balloting which REQUIRES the voter to REQUEST a ballot which is sent AFTER the election office VALIDATES the person requested is a legitimate citizen...i.e. using photo id or some other verification process including the signature on the request. THEN an absentee ballot is MAILED and the recipient completed the ballot... puts into an covering envelope and then puts into a provided mailing envelope THAT the voter SIGNS again. Once the absentee ballot received the outside signature checked against signature on file to verify the identity !

SO do all of you (INCLUDING the MSM!!!) NOW understand the distinction?
JUNK MAIL has no verification that the recipient is at the address...with 10% of Americans moving every year... millions of incorrect mail!
ABSENTEE ballot though are REQUESTED not JUNK MAILED!
Absentee ballot is signed and verified ...JUNK MAIL is NOT!

Understand the distinctions???


of course they know the difference, they know that they can cheat with mail voting, thats why the dems are pushing it so hard, they know they can never win a fair honest election, and must cheat to have any chance.
How many new States are sending ballots to all registered voters, who have not had it part of their election process for years and decades?

The answer is 4 States...And those 4 states in 2016 were democratic and democratic leaning states, that all voted for Clinton in 2016 by majority.

So, exactly how are the 4 New states adding universal ballot sending to registered voters going to affect the presidential electoral college vote in a negative way for Trump? He was already going to lose California, Vermont, New Jersey etc who added it? Nevada could be a close call perhaps, but ballots are also sent to all registered Republicans, so the shot at winning is equalized.
 
The ballots are the same whether you request them or not


THEY ARE THE SAME THING
LMAO @ the Stupid Shit Leftist believe .....

Folks you can't make this shit up.

They don't call 'em Useful Idiots for 'nuffin !!!!

They are EXACTLY the same.
Which means that if you moved, someone else gets your ballot (and your vote)....
Why would a person risk a felony charge, by filling out a ballot for someone else that was sent to them at their address?

And how would this alleged fraudster FAKE the ballot person's signature on file?


YOU are WAY OFF BASE with your assumptions, that simply don't happen... :rolleyes:
Washington state, which has held all-mail elections for years, has a rejection rate of between 1% and 2%, Kylee Zabel, a spokeswoman for Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman, told Salon.

"Ballots are most commonly rejected for late postmarks, or missing or mismatched signatures," Zabel explained.
Votes being rejected because of a technicality, without contacting the rejected ballot voter, to give them a chance to correct their signature problem, etc.... IS A REAL PROBLEM and disenfranchised the citizen of their vote, on a technicality...

But that is not voter fraud, it is incompetence.


so the election committee in each state is supposed to contact personally every voter to correct any errors on the ballot? do you have any idea how many years that would take?

what you are saying is that many american voters are incompetent, but you still want them voting because you know that they are actually dependent sheep who will do what their masters dictate.
Nope.... you don't know how that works....

The absentee ballot is sent to each voting precinct, your local voting area, and they contact who they rejected....They are the ones who check signatures and double envelope procedures being followed.... it is NOT done at the State level.
 
Also Redfish, some states have databases where voters can check to see if their ballot was accepted or rejected, so you can find out if you've been rejected and get another ballot or vote in person.
 

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