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[Hutch Starskey]

It is, dope. You don't bribe someone who isn't in a position to help you.
Bribery requires a quid pro quo. Neither Clinton had the authority over this deal to ensure it's approval.

If you want to make that case, you need to show that the deal wouldn't have happened without their efforts.

Wrong, dumbass. She was in a position to help the Russians. You don't need total control over a decision to be guilty of bribery. She gave a quid. She gave her vote in favor of selling the position to Russia. She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise. Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise.

Liar.

Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

It was a Russian company buying an interest in a Canadian company. The deal required vetting for any potential national security concerns. It then needed approval from The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) of which the State Dept was one of many approving depts.

and weren't there 8 or 9 others on that committee?

There's actually up to fourteen that could be involved. The State Dept. Only had a vote and no authority over the process.

Composition of CFIUS

The Secretary of the Treasury is the Chairperson of CFIUS, and notices to CFIUS are received, processed, and coordinated at the staff level by the Staff Chairperson of CFIUS, who is the Director of the Office of Investment Security in the Department of the Treasury.

The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices:

1. Department of the Treasury (chair)
2. Department of Justice
3. Department of Homeland Security
4. Department of Commerce
5. Department of Defense
6. Department of State
7. Department of Energy
8. Office of the U.S. Trade Representative
9. Office of Science & Technology Policy

The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities:

1. Office of Management & Budget
2. Council of Economic Advisors
3. National Security Council
4. National Economic Council
5. Homeland Security Council

The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting, ex-officio members of CFIUS with roles as defined by statute and regulation.

and all of those people owed Obama for their jobs. Obama and Clinton wanted the uranium deal. Clinton got 145M for it. What did Obama get? Help for his muslim brothers who want nuclear weapons?????

Liar.

Not one thing is true in that post.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Wrong, dumbass. She was in a position to help the Russians. You don't need total control over a decision to be guilty of bribery. She gave a quid. She gave her vote in favor of selling the position to Russia. She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise. Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise.

Liar.

Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

It was a Russian company buying an interest in a Canadian company. The deal required vetting for any potential national security concerns. It then needed approval from The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) of which the State Dept was one of many approving depts.

and weren't there 8 or 9 others on that committee?

There's actually up to fourteen that could be involved. The State Dept. Only had a vote and no authority over the process.

Composition of CFIUS

The Secretary of the Treasury is the Chairperson of CFIUS, and notices to CFIUS are received, processed, and coordinated at the staff level by the Staff Chairperson of CFIUS, who is the Director of the Office of Investment Security in the Department of the Treasury.

The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices:

1. Department of the Treasury (chair)
2. Department of Justice
3. Department of Homeland Security
4. Department of Commerce
5. Department of Defense
6. Department of State
7. Department of Energy
8. Office of the U.S. Trade Representative
9. Office of Science & Technology Policy

The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities:

1. Office of Management & Budget
2. Council of Economic Advisors
3. National Security Council
4. National Economic Council
5. Homeland Security Council

The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting, ex-officio members of CFIUS with roles as defined by statute and regulation.

and all of those people owed Obama for their jobs. Obama and Clinton wanted the uranium deal. Clinton got 145M for it. What did Obama get? Help for his muslim brothers who want nuclear weapons?????

Also, the most important of all, HIllary was expected to win the election, which meant she would become their boss.

She was expected to be president in 2010 when she was SOS, dope?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Wrong, dumbass. She was in a position to help the Russians. You don't need total control over a decision to be guilty of bribery. She gave a quid. She gave her vote in favor of selling the position to Russia. She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise. Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise.

Liar.

Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

It was a Russian company buying an interest in a Canadian company. The deal required vetting for any potential national security concerns. It then needed approval from The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) of which the State Dept was one of many approving depts.

and weren't there 8 or 9 others on that committee?

There's actually up to fourteen that could be involved. The State Dept. Only had a vote and no authority over the process.

Composition of CFIUS

The Secretary of the Treasury is the Chairperson of CFIUS, and notices to CFIUS are received, processed, and coordinated at the staff level by the Staff Chairperson of CFIUS, who is the Director of the Office of Investment Security in the Department of the Treasury.

The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices:

1. Department of the Treasury (chair)
2. Department of Justice
3. Department of Homeland Security
4. Department of Commerce
5. Department of Defense
6. Department of State
7. Department of Energy
8. Office of the U.S. Trade Representative
9. Office of Science & Technology Policy

The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities:

1. Office of Management & Budget
2. Council of Economic Advisors
3. National Security Council
4. National Economic Council
5. Homeland Security Council

The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting, ex-officio members of CFIUS with roles as defined by statute and regulation.

Explain why the Russians gave Hillary $145 million then, dumbass.

Notice that there's no response to this.

Firstly, no one gave her $145 million. It went to the foundation.

Secondly, the donations came in 07 and 08. Before and during her run.

 

[Reasonable]

Trump to the Russians spies he hosted in the Oval Office: "I fired Comey. I made all that go away. The pressure if off."

Ha!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

We said there would be indictments. Your kind said there wouldn’t be.
So who was right?

Nope, you said there will be Trump's indictments. My kind said they got nothing on him.

You see, you gotta stop feeling, and start reasoning. Calling yourself "reasonable" seems to be just wishful thinking.

Wrong I got my info from a member of the House intelligence Committee who said “there will be people going to prison.”
You called it a fake scandal.
And it remains if any or how many indictments Trump himself will get.
You think he’s innocent of not breaking any laws once Mueller goes thru his tax returns? Ha ha
Also expect obstruction of justice charges against the dope since he admitted it on live TV.

You're too stupid to realize that you're admitting this is just a witch hunt. You don't even care if any of the charges have anything to do with "colluding": with the Russians. You just want Mewler to get Trump anyway he can.

You're a pathetic despicable douche bag snowflake.

It all ties together, but a good movie for you to watch about right now is "All of the Presidents Men."

And then of course watch this video. Trump actually admitting he fired Comey over the Russian investigation on an NBC interview, is a lot more than they ever had on Richard Nixon. This one won't erased--



For those of you interested in this Russian investigation and the result of 3 criminal indictments today, click on the below USMB link and scroll down to post # 1239.
Exclusive: First charges filed in Mueller investigation

What name will be used for 'Deep Throat' in "All of the Douches Men"?

Watetsport or Sadist?

" The barber"

 

[Reasonable]

Bret Stephens summed up trump perfectly with this quote.To trump "the truth is whatever he can get away with".

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Great, it outlines payments but never answers my question. Which Clinton had approval authority?

That isn't required for a bribery charge, moron.

It is, dope. You don't bribe someone who isn't in a position to help you.
Bribery requires a quid pro quo. Neither Clinton had the authority over this deal to ensure it's approval.

If you want to make that case, you need to show that the deal wouldn't have happened without their efforts.

Wrong, dumbass. She was in a position to help the Russians. You don't need total control over a decision to be guilty of bribery. She gave a quid. She gave her vote in favor of selling the position to Russia. She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise. Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise.

Liar.

Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

It was a Russian company buying an interest in a Canadian company. The deal required vetting for any potential national security concerns. It then needed approval from The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) of which the State Dept was one of many approving depts.

It required permission of the federal government for any sale to go through, period. There was no justification for allowing this sale, especially when you consider national security. None.

There was no justification to not allow it.
The whole purpose of the CFIUS is to vet the deal to ensure there are no national security concerns. That's why each department signs off on it.

 

[Valerie]

SO trump's official defense is going to be " Bbbbut Hillary! "






The Uranium One deal was not Clinton’s to veto or approve

Among the ways these accusations stray from the facts is in attributing a power of veto or approval to Secretary Clinton that she simply did not have. Clinton was one of nine cabinet members and department heads that sit on the CFIUS, and the secretary of the treasury is its chairperson. CFIUS members are collectively charged with evaluating the transaction for potential national security issues, then turning their findings over to the president. By law, the committee can’t veto a transaction; only the president can. According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly participated in the Uranium One decision. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee matters.

Despite transfer of ownership, the uranium remained in the U.S.

A key fact ignored in criticisms of Clinton’s supposed involvement in the deal is that the uranium was not — nor could it be — exported, and remained under the control of U.S.-based subsidiaries of Uranium One, according to a statement by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:

NRC’s review of the transfer of control request determined that the U.S. subsidiaries will
remain the licensees, will remain qualified to conduct the uranium recovery operations, and will continue to have the equipment, facilities, and procedures necessary to protect public health and safety and to minimize danger to life or property. The review also determined that the licensees will maintain adequate financial surety for eventual decommissioning of the sites. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported.

FACT CHECK: Hillary Clinton Gave 20 Percent of United States' Uranium to Russia in Exchange for Clinton Foundation Donations?

FALSE

Fact Check sites are fake news.

says the guy with zero facts to the contrary. just face it dude, your dumbo posts are fake news!

 

[Redfish]

The Trump dossier hasn't. I believe out of all the networks, they gave it 20 seconds combined reporting.

Because it's nonsense.

sorry dude, but the corruption around the uranium deal is real. the Clintons sold out the country for 140 million dollars. At least now we know their price.

I'm sorry. Which Clinton had approval authority over that deal?

It could not have happened without Hillary's signature. (after the Russian 145M was securely in the Clinton foundation bank)

The 145 million came during her run in 08. Well before she was in any position to influence anything.

better check that timing, dude. you are wrong.

 

[Redfish]

That isn't required for a bribery charge, moron.

It is, dope. You don't bribe someone who isn't in a position to help you.
Bribery requires a quid pro quo. Neither Clinton had the authority over this deal to ensure it's approval.

If you want to make that case, you need to show that the deal wouldn't have happened without their efforts.

Wrong, dumbass. She was in a position to help the Russians. You don't need total control over a decision to be guilty of bribery. She gave a quid. She gave her vote in favor of selling the position to Russia. She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise. Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise.

Liar.

Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

It was a Russian company buying an interest in a Canadian company. The deal required vetting for any potential national security concerns. It then needed approval from The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) of which the State Dept was one of many approving depts.

It required permission of the federal government for any sale to go through, period. There was no justification for allowing this sale, especially when you consider national security. None.

There was no justification to not allow it.
The whole purpose of the CFIUS is to vet the deal to ensure there are no national security concerns. That's why each department signs off on it.

how did that deal benefit the USA? Not the Clintons, the USA

 

[Valerie]

Wrong, dumbass. She was in a position to help the Russians. You don't need total control over a decision to be guilty of bribery. She gave a quid. She gave her vote in favor of selling the position to Russia. She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise. Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise.

Liar.

Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

It was a Russian company buying an interest in a Canadian company. The deal required vetting for any potential national security concerns. It then needed approval from The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) of which the State Dept was one of many approving depts.

and weren't there 8 or 9 others on that committee?

There's actually up to fourteen that could be involved. The State Dept. Only had a vote and no authority over the process.

Composition of CFIUS

The Secretary of the Treasury is the Chairperson of CFIUS, and notices to CFIUS are received, processed, and coordinated at the staff level by the Staff Chairperson of CFIUS, who is the Director of the Office of Investment Security in the Department of the Treasury.

The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices:

1. Department of the Treasury (chair)
2. Department of Justice
3. Department of Homeland Security
4. Department of Commerce
5. Department of Defense
6. Department of State
7. Department of Energy
8. Office of the U.S. Trade Representative
9. Office of Science & Technology Policy

The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities:

1. Office of Management & Budget
2. Council of Economic Advisors
3. National Security Council
4. National Economic Council
5. Homeland Security Council

The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting, ex-officio members of CFIUS with roles as defined by statute and regulation.

Explain why the Russians gave Hillary $145 million then, dumbass.

Notice that there's no response to this.

i noticed that you ignored direct responses to this.

there is no point in engaging dishonest idiots like you, and you prove that every day.

scroll up and read for comprehension, if you want to pretend to care about "response to this".

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Because it's nonsense.

sorry dude, but the corruption around the uranium deal is real. the Clintons sold out the country for 140 million dollars. At least now we know their price.

I'm sorry. Which Clinton had approval authority over that deal?

It could not have happened without Hillary's signature. (after the Russian 145M was securely in the Clinton foundation bank)

The 145 million came during her run in 08. Well before she was in any position to influence anything.

better check that timing, dude. you are wrong.

No, you'd better check the timing.

Post it up.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It is, dope. You don't bribe someone who isn't in a position to help you.
Bribery requires a quid pro quo. Neither Clinton had the authority over this deal to ensure it's approval.

If you want to make that case, you need to show that the deal wouldn't have happened without their efforts.

Wrong, dumbass. She was in a position to help the Russians. You don't need total control over a decision to be guilty of bribery. She gave a quid. She gave her vote in favor of selling the position to Russia. She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise. Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise.

Liar.

Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

It was a Russian company buying an interest in a Canadian company. The deal required vetting for any potential national security concerns. It then needed approval from The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) of which the State Dept was one of many approving depts.

It required permission of the federal government for any sale to go through, period. There was no justification for allowing this sale, especially when you consider national security. None.

There was no justification to not allow it.
The whole purpose of the CFIUS is to vet the deal to ensure there are no national security concerns. That's why each department signs off on it.

how did that deal benefit the USA? Not the Clintons, the USA

Who said it had to?
It was a Russian company seeking a share in a Candian company.

 

[Redfish]

sorry dude, but the corruption around the uranium deal is real. the Clintons sold out the country for 140 million dollars. At least now we know their price.

I'm sorry. Which Clinton had approval authority over that deal?

It could not have happened without Hillary's signature. (after the Russian 145M was securely in the Clinton foundation bank)

The 145 million came during her run in 08. Well before she was in any position to influence anything.

better check that timing, dude. you are wrong.

No, you'd better check the timing.

Post it up.

here ya go. from the NY Times of all places

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

 

[Redfish]

Wrong, dumbass. She was in a position to help the Russians. You don't need total control over a decision to be guilty of bribery. She gave a quid. She gave her vote in favor of selling the position to Russia. She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise. Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise.

Liar.

Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

It was a Russian company buying an interest in a Canadian company. The deal required vetting for any potential national security concerns. It then needed approval from The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) of which the State Dept was one of many approving depts.

It required permission of the federal government for any sale to go through, period. There was no justification for allowing this sale, especially when you consider national security. None.

There was no justification to not allow it.
The whole purpose of the CFIUS is to vet the deal to ensure there are no national security concerns. That's why each department signs off on it.

how did that deal benefit the USA? Not the Clintons, the USA

Who said it had to?
It was a Russian company seeking a share in a Candian company.

bullshit. if it was that why did several US agencies have to approve it? you are grasping at straws, and catching nothing but wind.

 

[bripat9643]

Wrong, dumbass. She was in a position to help the Russians. You don't need total control over a decision to be guilty of bribery. She gave a quid. She gave her vote in favor of selling the position to Russia. She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise. Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise.

Liar.

Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

It was a Russian company buying an interest in a Canadian company. The deal required vetting for any potential national security concerns. It then needed approval from The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) of which the State Dept was one of many approving depts.

and weren't there 8 or 9 others on that committee?

There's actually up to fourteen that could be involved. The State Dept. Only had a vote and no authority over the process.

Composition of CFIUS

The Secretary of the Treasury is the Chairperson of CFIUS, and notices to CFIUS are received, processed, and coordinated at the staff level by the Staff Chairperson of CFIUS, who is the Director of the Office of Investment Security in the Department of the Treasury.

The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices:

1. Department of the Treasury (chair)
2. Department of Justice
3. Department of Homeland Security
4. Department of Commerce
5. Department of Defense
6. Department of State
7. Department of Energy
8. Office of the U.S. Trade Representative
9. Office of Science & Technology Policy

The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities:

1. Office of Management & Budget
2. Council of Economic Advisors
3. National Security Council
4. National Economic Council
5. Homeland Security Council

The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting, ex-officio members of CFIUS with roles as defined by statute and regulation.

Explain why the Russians gave Hillary $145 million then, dumbass.

Notice that there's no response to this.

i noticed that you ignored direct responses to this.

there is no point in engaging dishonest idiots like you, and you prove that every day.

scroll up and read for comprehension, if you want to pretend to care about "response to this".

There was no response to it, moron.

 

[bripat9643]

Wrong, dumbass. She was in a position to help the Russians. You don't need total control over a decision to be guilty of bribery. She gave a quid. She gave her vote in favor of selling the position to Russia. She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise. Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

She also put pressure on other committee members to do likewise.

Liar.

Why else would anyone do something as stupid as selling 20% of our Uranium to the Russians.

It was a Russian company buying an interest in a Canadian company. The deal required vetting for any potential national security concerns. It then needed approval from The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) of which the State Dept was one of many approving depts.

It required permission of the federal government for any sale to go through, period. There was no justification for allowing this sale, especially when you consider national security. None.

There was no justification to not allow it.
The whole purpose of the CFIUS is to vet the deal to ensure there are no national security concerns. That's why each department signs off on it.

how did that deal benefit the USA? Not the Clintons, the USA

Who said it had to?
It was a Russian company seeking a share in a Candian company.

Only an idiot would approve a deal that didn't benefit the United States. That's their job, moron, doing what's best for the United States.

 

[Redfish]

Liar.

It was a Russian company buying an interest in a Canadian company. The deal required vetting for any potential national security concerns. It then needed approval from The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) of which the State Dept was one of many approving depts.

and weren't there 8 or 9 others on that committee?

There's actually up to fourteen that could be involved. The State Dept. Only had a vote and no authority over the process.

Composition of CFIUS

The Secretary of the Treasury is the Chairperson of CFIUS, and notices to CFIUS are received, processed, and coordinated at the staff level by the Staff Chairperson of CFIUS, who is the Director of the Office of Investment Security in the Department of the Treasury.

The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices:

1. Department of the Treasury (chair)
2. Department of Justice
3. Department of Homeland Security
4. Department of Commerce
5. Department of Defense
6. Department of State
7. Department of Energy
8. Office of the U.S. Trade Representative
9. Office of Science & Technology Policy

The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities:

1. Office of Management & Budget
2. Council of Economic Advisors
3. National Security Council
4. National Economic Council
5. Homeland Security Council

The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting, ex-officio members of CFIUS with roles as defined by statute and regulation.

Explain why the Russians gave Hillary $145 million then, dumbass.

Notice that there's no response to this.

i noticed that you ignored direct responses to this.

there is no point in engaging dishonest idiots like you, and you prove that every day.

scroll up and read for comprehension, if you want to pretend to care about "response to this".

There was no response to it, moron.

responses from the left

"Hillary didn't do anything"
"Obama didn't do anything"
"I love Hillary"
"I love Obama"
"socialism is wonderful"
"I refuse to deal with facts that I don't like"
"conservatives should not be allowed to speak"
"BLM is a great organization"
"antifa is not fascist"
"Maxine Waters has a brain"
"Sharpton is not a racist"

 

[Reasonable]

Bripat: Fact check sites are fake news.

Funniest post of the year!

 

[bripat9643]

and weren't there 8 or 9 others on that committee?

There's actually up to fourteen that could be involved. The State Dept. Only had a vote and no authority over the process.

Composition of CFIUS

The Secretary of the Treasury is the Chairperson of CFIUS, and notices to CFIUS are received, processed, and coordinated at the staff level by the Staff Chairperson of CFIUS, who is the Director of the Office of Investment Security in the Department of the Treasury.

The members of CFIUS include the heads of the following departments and offices:

1. Department of the Treasury (chair)
2. Department of Justice
3. Department of Homeland Security
4. Department of Commerce
5. Department of Defense
6. Department of State
7. Department of Energy
8. Office of the U.S. Trade Representative
9. Office of Science & Technology Policy

The following offices also observe and, as appropriate, participate in CFIUS’s activities:

1. Office of Management & Budget
2. Council of Economic Advisors
3. National Security Council
4. National Economic Council
5. Homeland Security Council

The Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Labor are non-voting, ex-officio members of CFIUS with roles as defined by statute and regulation.

Explain why the Russians gave Hillary $145 million then, dumbass.

Notice that there's no response to this.

i noticed that you ignored direct responses to this.

there is no point in engaging dishonest idiots like you, and you prove that every day.

scroll up and read for comprehension, if you want to pretend to care about "response to this".

There was no response to it, moron.

responses from the left

"Hillary didn't do anything"
"Obama didn't do anything"
"I love Hillary"
"I love Obama"
"socialism is wonderful"
"I refuse to deal with facts that I don't like"
"conservatives should not be allowed to speak"
"BLM is a great organization"
"antifa is not fascist"
"Maxine Waters has a brain"
"Sharpton is not a racist"

"A blowjob isn't sex."
"Math is racist"
"Football is racist"
"Confederate statues are racist"
"Truth is hate speech"
"It's OK to beat people you don't agree with."
"Hands up, don't shoot!"
"Genes don't determine gender."