Expulsion of the Germans from many countries after 1944 and 1945

[surada]

We hear much of "illegal Jewish settlements in the West Bank."

How are they illegal? If so called "international law" prohibits the settlements, where was international law in 1967 when Egypt threatened to destroy Israel?

If Israeli leaders signed any legal documents forbidding the annexation and ethnic cleansing of land conquered in a just war, those leaders, or their successors should erase their names from the documents. The West Bank, the Golan Heights, and even Gaza should be formally annexed, ethnically cleansed of Palestinians, and settled with Jews.

The Jews need living space to settle in and prosper. The Children of Israel should be allowed to live in the land of Israel.

The European Zionists were not given Gaza, East Jerusalem, Samaria, the Golan heights or Shaaba farms.

Haifa German colony

www.levantineheritage.com

 

[surada]

We hear much of "illegal Jewish settlements in the West Bank."

How are they illegal? If so called "international law" prohibits the settlements, where was international law in 1967 when Egypt threatened to destroy Israel?

If Israeli leaders signed any legal documents forbidding the annexation and ethnic cleansing of land conquered in a just war, those leaders, or their successors should erase their names from the documents. The West Bank, the Golan Heights, and even Gaza should be formally annexed, ethnically cleansed of Palestinians, and settled with Jews.

The Jews need living space to settle in and prosper. The Children of Israel should be allowed to live in the land of Israel.

John Pilger on the Dagan Plan and Gaza under fire

Every war Israel has waged since 1948 has had the same objective: expulsion of the native people.

www.newstatesman.com

They know that the horror now raining on Gaza has little to do with Hamas or, absurdly, “Israel’s right to exist”. They know the opposite to be true: that Palestine’s right to exist was cancelled 61 years ago and that the expulsion and, if necessary, extinction of the indigenous people was planned and executed by the founders of Israel. They know, for example, that the infamous “Plan D” of 1947-48 resulted in the murderous depopulation of 369 Palestinian towns and villages by the Haganah (Israeli army) and that massacre upon massacre of Palestinian civilians in such places as Deir Yassin, al-Dawayima, Eilaboun, Jish, Ramle and Lydda are referred to in official records as “ethnic cleansing”. Arriving at a scene of this carnage, David Ben-Gurion, Israel’s first prime minister, was asked by a general, Yigal Allon: “What shall we do with the Arabs?” Ben-Gurion, reported the Israeli historian Benny Morris, “made a dismissive, energetic gesture with his hand and said, ‘Expel them'”.

 

[surada]

Every subsequent “war” Israel has waged has had the same objective: the expulsion of the native people and the theft of more and more land. The lie of David and Goliath, of perennial victim, reached its apogee in 1967 when the propaganda became a righteous fury that claimed the Arab states had struck first against Israel. Since then, mostly Jewish truth-tellers such as Avi Shlaim, Noam Chomsky, Tanya Reinhart, Neve Gordon, Tom Segev, Uri Avnery, Ilan Pappé and Norman Finkelstein have undermined this and other myths and revealed a state shorn of the humane traditions of Judaism, whose unrelenting militarism is the sum of an expansionist, lawless and racist ideology called Zionism. “It seems,” wrote the Israeli historian Pappé on 2 January, “that even the most horrendous crimes, such as the genocide in Gaza, are treated as discrete events, unconnected to anything that happened in the past and not associated with any ideology or system . . . Very much as the apartheid ideology explained the oppressive policies of the South African government, this ideology – in its most consensual and simplistic variety – allowed all the Israeli governments in the past and the present to dehumanise the Palestinians wherever they are and strive to destroy them. The means altered from period to period, from location to location, as did the narrative covering up these atrocities. But there is a clear pattern [of genocide].”

In Gaza, the enforced starvation and denial of humanitarian aid, the piracy of life-giving resources such as fuel and water, the denial of medicines, the systematic destruction of infrastructure and killing and maiming of the civilian population, 50 per cent of whom are children, fall within the international standard of the Genocide Convention. “Is it an irresponsible overstatement,” asked Richard Falk, UN special rapporteur for human rights in the occupied Palestinian territories and international law authority at Princeton University, “to associate the treatment of Palestinians with this criminalised Nazi record of collective atrocity? I think not.”

, will shout: “Gaza!”

The asymmetry of conquest and terror is clear. Plan D is now “Operation Cast Lead”, which is the unfinished “Operation Justified Vengeance”. This was launched by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in 2001 when, with George W Bush’s approval, he used F-16s against Palestinian towns and villages for the first time.



Why are the academics and teachers silent? Are British universities now no more than “intellectual Tescos”?



In that same year, the authoritative Jane’s Foreign Report disclosed that the Blair government had given Israel the “green light” to attack the West Bank after it was shown Israel’s secret designs for a bloodbath. It was typical of new Labour’s enduring complicity in Palestine’s agony. However, the Israeli plan, reported Jane’s, needed the “trigger” of a suicide bombing which would cause “numerous deaths and injuries [because] the ‘revenge’ factor is crucial”. This would “motivate Israeli soldiers to demolish the Palestinians”. What alarmed Sharon and the author of the plan, General Shaul Mofaz, then Israeli chief of staff, was a secret agreement between Yasser Arafat and Hamas to ban suicide attacks. On 23 November 2001 Israeli agents assassinated the Hamas leader Mahmoud Abu Hanoud and got their “trigger”: the suicide attacks resumed in response to his killing.

Something uncannily similar happened on 4 November last year when Israeli special forces attacked Gaza, killing six people. Once again, they got their propaganda “trigger”: a ceasefire sustained by the Hamas government – which had imprisoned its violators – was shattered as a result of the Israeli attacks, and home-made rockets were fired into what used to be called Palestine before its Arab occupants were “cleansed”. On 23 December, Hamas offered to renew the ceasefire, but Israel’s charade was such that its all-out assault on Gaza had been planned six months earlier, according to the Israeli daily Haaretz.

Behind this sordid game is the “Dagan Plan”, named after General Meir Dagan, who served with Sharon during his bloody invasion of Leba non in 1982. Now head of Mossad, the Israeli intelligence organisation, Dagan is the author of a “solution” that has brought about the imprisonment of Palestinians behind a ghetto wall snaking across the West Bank and in Gaza, now effectively a concentration camp. The establishment of a quisling government in Ramallah, under Mahmoud Abbas, is Dagan’s achievement, together with a hasbara (propaganda) campaign, relayed through mostly supine, if intimidated western media, notably in the US, which say Hamas is a terrorist organisation devoted to Israel’s destruction and is to “blame” for the massacres and siege of its own people over two generations, since long before its creation. “We have never had it so good,” said the Israeli foreign ministry spokesman Gideon Meir in 2006. “The hasbara effort is a well-oiled machine.”

In fact, Hamas’s real threat is its example as the Arab world’s only democratically elected government, drawing its popularity from its resistance to the Palestinians’ oppressor and tormentor. This was demonstrated when Hamas foiled a CIA coup in 2007, an event ordained in the western media as “Hamas’s seizure of power”. Likewise, Hamas is never described as a government, let alone democratic. Neither is its proposal of a ten-year truce reported as a historic recognition of the “reality” of Israel and support for a two-state solution with just one condition: that the Israelis obey international law and end their illegal occupation beyond the 1967 borders. As every annual vote in the UN General Assembly demonstrates, most states agree. On 4 January, the president of the General Assembly, Miguel d’Escoto, described the Israeli attack on Gaza as a “monstrosity”.

When the monstrosity is done and the people of Gaza are even more stricken, the Dagan Plan foresees what Sharon called a “1948-style solution” – the destruction of all Palestinian leadership and authority, followed by mass expulsions into smaller and smaller “cantonments”, and perhaps, finally, into Jordan. This demolition of institutional and educational life in Gaza is designed to produce, wrote Karma Nabulsi, a Palestinian exile in Britain, “a Hobbesian vision of an anarchic society: truncated, violent, powerless, destroyed, cowed . . . Look to the Iraq of today: that is what [Sharon] had in store for us, and he has nearly achieved it.”

 

[Hector12]

The European Zionists were not given Gaza, East Jerusalem, Samaria, the Golan heights or Shaaba farms.

Haifa German colony

www.levantineheritage.com

The European Zionists conquered that land in wars begun by the Arabs.

 

[Ringo]

 

[surada]

The European Zionists conquered that land in wars begun by the Arabs.

They attacked Egypt in 1967. Egyptian troops were deployed in Yemen from 1962-1970.

Have you forgotten the Lavon Affair and the Suez Crisis? How about the Sabra and Shatilla massacre?

How about the attack on the USS Liberty?

Israel betrayed Eisenhower, Reagan and LBJ.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They attacked Egypt in 1967. Egyptian troops were deployed in Yemen from 1962-1970.

Have you forgotten the Lavon Affair and the Suez Crisis? How about the Sabra and Shatilla massacre?

How about the attack on the USS Liberty?

Israel betrayed Eisenhower, Reagan and LBJ.

They attacked Egypt in 1967. Egyptian troops were deployed in Yemen from 1962-1970.

You have to be pretty fucking stupid to start shit with Israel while a large portion
of your troops are in Yemen.

At least the ones in Yemen didn't get their asses kicked by Israel, eh?

 

[surada]

We hear much of "illegal Jewish settlements in the West Bank."

How are they illegal? If so called "international law" prohibits the settlements, where was international law in 1967 when Egypt threatened to destroy Israel?

If Israeli leaders signed any legal documents forbidding the annexation and ethnic cleansing of land conquered in a just war, those leaders, or their successors should erase their names from the documents. The West Bank, the Golan Heights, and even Gaza should be formally annexed, ethnically cleansed of Palestinians, and settled with Jews.

The Jews need living space to settle in and prosper. The Children of Israel should be allowed to live in the land of Israel.

Zionism is no different than Nazism.

John Pilger on the Dagan Plan and Gaza under fire

Every war Israel has waged since 1948 has had the same objective: expulsion of the native people.

www.newstatesman.com

 

[irosie91]

They attacked Egypt in 1967. Egyptian troops were deployed in Yemen from 1962-1970.

Have you forgotten the Lavon Affair and the Suez Crisis? How about the Sabra and Shatilla massacre?

How about the attack on the USS Liberty?

Israel betrayed Eisenhower, Reagan and LBJ.

the islamo nazis are back scraping at the bottom of the barrel and lying---
the same old lies and the same old desperate dreg licking

 

[surada]

They attacked Egypt in 1967. Egyptian troops were deployed in Yemen from 1962-1970.

You have to be pretty fucking stupid to start shit with Israel while a large portion
of your troops are in Yemen.

At least the ones in Yemen didn't get their asses kicked by Israel, eh?

Nasser had called for a summit to resolve the problem. Read Moishe Dayan. The Israelis coveted more land and spent a decade provoking the neighbors. Remember the USS Liberty?

John Pilger on the Dagan Plan and Gaza under fire

Every war Israel has waged since 1948 has had the same objective: expulsion of the native people.

www.newstatesman.com

 

[surada]

the islamo nazis are back scraping at the bottom of the barrel and lying---
the same old lies and the same old desperate dreg licking

It's just more theft and ethnic cleansing.. the Jews sure learned from the Nazis.

John Pilger on the Dagan Plan and Gaza under fire

Every war Israel has waged since 1948 has had the same objective: expulsion of the native people.

www.newstatesman.com

 

[Hector12]

Zionism is no different than Nazism.

John Pilger on the Dagan Plan and Gaza under fire

Every war Israel has waged since 1948 has had the same objective: expulsion of the native people.

www.newstatesman.com

The difference is that Ashkenazi Jews really are the Herrenvolk. They were born to prosper and rule.

 

[irosie91]

They attacked Egypt in 1967. Egyptian troops were deployed in Yemen from 1962-1970.

You have to be pretty fucking stupid to start shit with Israel while a large portion
of your troops are in Yemen.

At least the ones in Yemen didn't get their asses kicked by Israel, eh?

the Egypt in Yemen thing is a shit finger lie---Not only did Nasser have troops lined up on the Sinai border between Egypt and Israel--he also
had hundreds of RUSSIAN SUPPLIED tanks AND Russian military experts
right there in the field and-----announced the imminent demise of the
ZIONIST ENTITY----arabs in the gutter were licking their asses and threatening
rape in TEL AVIV.----the whole episode brought to the UN general assembly
in May was televised------it was so fascinating that by early June it had become a COMEDY----grinning muslim diplomats from all over the UMMA
became SOBBING JERKS. One diplomat who faced the truce actually
cried real tears ------I cannot remember his country of origin

 

[Hector12]

How about the attack on the USS Liberty?

What happened to the USS Liberty was friendly fire. An extensive investigation by the United State absolved Israel. Israel had no credible motive to attack a naval vessel of the United States.

 

[surada]

the. topic is the expulsion of germans from Eastern Europe etc …..

There was a German colony in Haifa for about 50 years. The Zionists confiscated their dairy farms.

 

[surada]

the Egypt in Yemen thing is a shit finger lie---Not only did Nasser have troops lined up on the Sinai border between Egypt and Israel--he also
had hundreds of RUSSIAN SUPPLIED tanks AND Russian military experts
right there in the field and-----announced the imminent demise of the
ZIONIST ENTITY----arabs in the gutter were licking their asses and threatening
rape in TEL AVIV.----the whole episode brought to the UN general assembly
in May was televised------it was so fascinating that by early June it had become a COMEDY----grinning muslim diplomats from all over the UMMA
became SOBBING JERKS. One diplomat who faced the truce actually
cried real tears ------I cannot remember his country of origin

There were no Egyptian troops on the border. That was a Soviet lie.

The Zionists are no different than the Nazis or any other group of rabid nationalists.

 

[irosie91]

Nasser had called for a summit to resolve the problem. Read Moishe Dayan. The Israelis coveted more land and spent a decade provoking the neighbors. Remember the USS Liberty?

John Pilger on the Dagan Plan and Gaza under fire

Every war Israel has waged since 1948 has had the same objective: expulsion of the native people.

www.newstatesman.com

ROFLMAO I watched ALL of the UN proceedings ----"moishe" ----nope---
a reasonable spelling is MOSHE----not "moishe" Is there any person
here who has never been in the UN building?

What happened to the USS Liberty was friendly fire. An extensive investigation by the United State absolved Israel. Israel had no credible motive to attack a naval vessel of the United States.

I could discuss MANY cases of friendly fire ---with deaths even in peace time-----even in TRAINING episodes----but it would be a violation of
military law for me to do so.

 

[irosie91]

There were no Egyptian troops on the border. That was a Soviet lie.

The Zionists are no different than the Nazis or any other group of rabid nationalists.

wrong----it was if anything----AN ARAB LIE----but, in fact, it was true----
Israel ended up with lots of tanks as the Egyptian soldiers HIGH TAILED
across the Sinai desert-----footage was televised-----anyone close to my
age would have had to be in a coma to miss it

 

[irosie91]

For the record----June 1967-----the fact of thousands of Egyptian soldiers dying of dehydration in the Sinai desert was a huge tragedy----Egypt refused to allow air drops of food and water---Even I was horrified at the unnecessary
loss of life. However---the lies of the above oil brat constitute a telling example of islamo-nazi propaganda----it dances even on the dead bodies of
dehydrated Egyptian soldiers. Finally, Nasser had the good graces to drop
dead of a heart attack

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nasser had called for a summit to resolve the problem. Read Moishe Dayan. The Israelis coveted more land and spent a decade provoking the neighbors. Remember the USS Liberty?

John Pilger on the Dagan Plan and Gaza under fire

Every war Israel has waged since 1948 has had the same objective: expulsion of the native people.

www.newstatesman.com

Nasser had called for a summit to resolve the problem.

What problem?