Zone1 False (heretical) popes begin with Roncalli (Jn XXIII).. beginning of Church's chaos..

[notmyfault2020]

This is from Novus Ordo Watch [emphasis theirs unless colored red (my emphasis). My comments are in brackets


[T]here is more than ample proof Roncalli was a heretic prior to his election and therefore could not attain to the papacy... let's not forget that a cause can be discerned by examining the effects. For example, the intelligent design of the universe points to a Creator. Likewise, if the man who came out of the conclave did what a true pope would not (indeed could not) do, we can safely say he wasn't elected pope.

5. Roncalli, as "pope" rehabilitated every major heretic that had been censured under Pope Pius XII and had them as approved periti (theological experts) at Vatican II. These heretics included the likes of Congar, de Lubac, and Hans Kung, among many others, none of whom were [ever] required to abjure any errors [as should have happened]. Roncalli promoted ecumenism [rejected by previous, REAL popes like SAINT Pius X] . He ordered the words removed from the prayer of Consecration to the Sacred Heart of Jesus : "Be Thou King of all those who are still involved in the darkness of idolatry or of Islamism." He changed the Good Friday prayers so as to remove the phrase "perfidious (i.e., faithless) Jews." He modernized the Mass, Breviary, and Calendar. He was friends with Socialists, Communists, and Freemasons, none of whom he sought to convert. Are these the actions of a true Vicar of Christ?

 

[Donald H]

This is from Novus Ordo Watch [emphasis theirs unless colored red (my emphasis). My comments are in brackets


[T]here is more than ample proof Roncalli was a heretic prior to his election and therefore could not attain to the papacy... let's not forget that a cause can be discerned by examining the effects. For example, the intelligent design of the universe points to a Creator. Likewise, if the man who came out of the conclave did what a true pope would not (indeed could not) do, we can safely say he wasn't elected pope.

5. Roncalli, as "pope" rehabilitated every major heretic that had been censured under Pope Pius XII and had them as approved periti (theological experts) at Vatican II. These heretics included the likes of Congar, de Lubac, and Hans Kung, among many others, none of whom were [ever] required to abjure any errors [as should have happened]. Roncalli promoted ecumenism [rejected by previous, REAL popes like SAINT Pius X] . He ordered the words removed from the prayer of Consecration to the Sacred Heart of Jesus : "Be Thou King of all those who are still involved in the darkness of idolatry or of Islamism." He changed the Good Friday prayers so as to remove the phrase "perfidious (i.e., faithless) Jews." He modernized the Mass, Breviary, and Calendar. He was friends with Socialists, Communists, and Freemasons, none of whom he sought to convert. Are these the actions of a true Vicar of Christ?

Be a bit more liberal on the popes. All of them are attempting to make changes that reconcile the churches' differences with modern science.

The greatest crime or sell out of the church was the acceptance of Darwinian evolution, but nobody can say with any commitment that it wasn't necessary!

 

[notmyfault2020]

Be a bit more liberal on the popes. All of them are attempting to make changes that reconcile the churches' differences with modern science.

The greatest crime or sell out of the church was the acceptance of Darwinian evolution, but nobody can say with any commitment that it wasn't necessary!

clueless... that's all I can say...

Like most Protestants, you are clueless

Then you have that liberal cluelessness to boot

 

[notmyfault2020]

I was reading an article about how francis did a Motu Proprio against the SSPX Church

Who cares, though? We all know he is a fake pope.

But the SsPX are a big disapointment because instaed of SAYING that, that Hey, Francis, you're not for real, so like... yeh, take a flying leap (or something)

No, they whine and cry and act like the V2 "church" is for real when it is not.. They should be excommunicating francis and the whole lot of them, not whining because some fake pope wants to excommunicate someone (but cannot because you have to actually be pope to do so)

 

[notmyfault2020]

The protestants got so much at Vatican II !

They didn't like the idea of the papacy (most don't seem to like it) so ... voila'--we don't have one! We haven't had one since 1958. Then for a brief period in 1978 we had the saintly John Paul I, may he rest in peace.. but the evil ones killed him.

So I'm wondering if maybe God up in Heaven looked down upon the crazy Godless earth and said... Hmmm... looks like you better take over, Jesus. Being the Invisible Head of the Church isn't sufficient anymore because the visible head is AWOL. You'll have to be the ONLY Head for a time

And all us Catholics should say

Amen!