Farmer Prevented from Selling His Crop Because He Supports Traditional Marriage

You mean like the fags could have had somewhere else make their cake?

Or the farmer could have followed the city laws.

You know- like the Bible says.

You do know the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination. Do you agree with that or are you going to ignore it when it's not what you like to hear?

Bible says a lot of things . Funny what "Christians " decide is important.

Funny how those like Syriusly that mention the Bible ignore it when the Bible says what they don't want to hear. Funny how you say people do things, implying it's wrong, then do the exactly same thing yourself justifying how it's different with you.

Nowhere does the Bible say not to sell to homosexuals. Now the Old Testament does say to put male homosexuals to death for having sex- but not for getting married.

But the New Testament- where Jesus never condemns homosexuals- does provide specific instructions to follow the law

Romans 13:1–7
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Submission to the Authorities

13 Let every person pbe subject to the governing authorities. For qthere is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you rwill receive his approval, 4 for she is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, tan avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also ufor the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 vPay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.
Love it how the hatemongering fascists think they are theologians.

Delusional.
 
Or the farmer could have followed the city laws.

You know- like the Bible says.

You do know the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination. Do you agree with that or are you going to ignore it when it's not what you like to hear?

Bible says a lot of things . Funny what "Christians " decide is important.

Funny how those like Syriusly that mention the Bible ignore it when the Bible says what they don't want to hear. Funny how you say people do things, implying it's wrong, then do the exactly same thing yourself justifying how it's different with you.

Nowhere does the Bible say not to sell to homosexuals. Now the Old Testament does say to put male homosexuals to death for having sex- but not for getting married.

But the New Testament- where Jesus never condemns homosexuals- does provide specific instructions to follow the law

Romans 13:1–7
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Submission to the Authorities

13 Let every person pbe subject to the governing authorities. For qthere is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you rwill receive his approval, 4 for she is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, tan avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also ufor the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 vPay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.
Love it how the hatemongering fascists think they are theologians.

Delusional.
One thing we know for sure....the Commandment against Bearing False Witness is ignored all the time by so-called christians.
 
Bible says a lot of things . Funny what "Christians " decide is important.

Funny how those like Syriusly that mention the Bible ignore it when the Bible says what they don't want to hear. Funny how you say people do things, implying it's wrong, then do the exactly same thing yourself justifying how it's different with you.

Hey . I agree that the Bible is against it. As it is for lots of things .

You tell me how someone can pick and choose what they follow . Is it a le carte religion??

The problem is Liberals like you claim the Bible is for lots of things it simply doesn't support.

Do you agree that the Bible says you shouldn't get tattoos?

Where are all these religious business owners denying tattooed customers !?

To the point that I don't have any. However, since I can only answer for myself, what others do is their business.

Are you saying it's OK to deny someone with a tattoo but not a fag?

According to the Bible a tattoo is an abomination just like homosexual sex.

According to the law- you can refuse service to someone because of their tattoo- unless you refuse service because the tattoo identifies a person's religion- and that is why- like if you refused service to a Holocaust survivor because you saw their tattoo and thought they were Jewish.
 
Or the farmer could have followed the city laws.

You know- like the Bible says.

You do know the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination. Do you agree with that or are you going to ignore it when it's not what you like to hear?

Bible says a lot of things . Funny what "Christians " decide is important.

Funny how those like Syriusly that mention the Bible ignore it when the Bible says what they don't want to hear. Funny how you say people do things, implying it's wrong, then do the exactly same thing yourself justifying how it's different with you.

Nowhere does the Bible say not to sell to homosexuals. Now the Old Testament does say to put male homosexuals to death for having sex- but not for getting married.

But the New Testament- where Jesus never condemns homosexuals- does provide specific instructions to follow the law

Romans 13:1–7
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Submission to the Authorities

13 Let every person pbe subject to the governing authorities. For qthere is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you rwill receive his approval, 4 for she is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, tan avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also ufor the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 vPay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.
Love it how the hatemongering fascists think they are theologians.

Delusional.

Yeah- you hatemongering fascists always cry "But the Bible" but always just cherry pick from it.
 
The farmer had a good thing going, he could discriminate at his farm, plus sell at the don't discriminate farmers market.
he got greedy, started selling his discriminate party's at the don't discriminate market. when greed rules people act as fools.
 
The Hussein administration threatened economic sanctions, not against North Korea, but against North Carolina. Isn't that the culmination of the craziest and most fascist regime in American history? The federal government was willing to punish an entire state because of the State's legal and taxpayer supported effort to protect women from an invasion of the Ladies room by the estimated less than 1/10th of 1% of the population of freakazoid men who decided that they needed to powder their noses not to mention the mental health of public school girls who would have been forced to share a shower and a locker room with a confused boy. Do the alleged "anti-fascists" on the left even understand what fascism means? A perfect example of fascism is punishing innocent citizens with economic sanctions because of their 1st Amendment political and religious beliefs.
 
The Hussein administration threatened economic sanctions, not against North Korea, but against North Carolina. Isn't that the culmination of the craziest and most fascist regime in American history? The federal government was willing to punish an entire state because of the State's legal and taxpayer supported effort to protect women from an invasion of the Ladies room by the estimated less than 1/10th of 1% of the population of freakazoid men who decided that they needed to powder their noses not to mention the mental health of public school girls who would have been forced to share a shower and a locker room with a confused boy. Do the alleged "anti-fascists" on the left even understand what fascism means? A perfect example of fascism is punishing innocent citizens with economic sanctions because of their 1st Amendment political and religious beliefs.

Wow . Talk about a bunch of bs lies ! Your post takes the cake !
 
Tough titties. The yokel can peddle his wares plenty of other places.

You mean like the fags could have had somewhere else make their cake?

Or the farmer could have followed the city laws.

You know- like the Bible says.

You do know the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination. Do you agree with that or are you going to ignore it when it's not what you like to hear?

I do know that the New Testament says that Christians are supposed to follow the law- and Christians are supposed to follow the New Testament.

Of course the New Testament doesn't say homosexuality is an abomination- matter of fact Jesus doesn't even mention homosexuality. He does say that remarriage after divorce- you know like President Trump- is adultery.

Or maybe you are one of those "Old Testament" Christians- who doesn't eat shellfish or cut his beard?

In the same passage about divorce (Matthew 19), Jesus referenced what had been written in Genesis (OT) about a man (MALE) leaving his father/mother and being united with his wife (FEMALE). Even Jesus referenced the OT word of God. That reference doesn't mention a man being united with another man or a woman with another woman.

There are lots of things Jesus didn't mention specifically that I suspect you'd believe are wrong. Since He didn't, are you saying those things are OK to do? Based on your logic, they'd have to be.
 
You mean like the fags could have had somewhere else make their cake?

Or the farmer could have followed the city laws.

You know- like the Bible says.

You do know the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination. Do you agree with that or are you going to ignore it when it's not what you like to hear?

Bible says a lot of things . Funny what "Christians " decide is important.

Funny how those like Syriusly that mention the Bible ignore it when the Bible says what they don't want to hear. Funny how you say people do things, implying it's wrong, then do the exactly same thing yourself justifying how it's different with you.

Nowhere does the Bible say not to sell to homosexuals. Now the Old Testament does say to put male homosexuals to death for having sex- but not for getting married.

But the New Testament- where Jesus never condemns homosexuals- does provide specific instructions to follow the law

Romans 13:1–7
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Submission to the Authorities

13 Let every person pbe subject to the governing authorities. For qthere is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you rwill receive his approval, 4 for she is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, tan avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also ufor the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 vPay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.

Matthew 19:4
A man shall leave his father and mother and be united with HIS WIFE.
 
Or the farmer could have followed the city laws.

You know- like the Bible says.

You do know the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination. Do you agree with that or are you going to ignore it when it's not what you like to hear?

Bible says a lot of things . Funny what "Christians " decide is important.

Funny how those like Syriusly that mention the Bible ignore it when the Bible says what they don't want to hear. Funny how you say people do things, implying it's wrong, then do the exactly same thing yourself justifying how it's different with you.

Hey . I agree that the Bible is against it. As it is for lots of things .

You tell me how someone can pick and choose what they follow . Is it a le carte religion??
Cafeteria christianity.

Exactly like you do.
 
You do know the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination. Do you agree with that or are you going to ignore it when it's not what you like to hear?

Bible says a lot of things . Funny what "Christians " decide is important.

Funny how those like Syriusly that mention the Bible ignore it when the Bible says what they don't want to hear. Funny how you say people do things, implying it's wrong, then do the exactly same thing yourself justifying how it's different with you.

Nowhere does the Bible say not to sell to homosexuals. Now the Old Testament does say to put male homosexuals to death for having sex- but not for getting married.

But the New Testament- where Jesus never condemns homosexuals- does provide specific instructions to follow the law

Romans 13:1–7
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Submission to the Authorities

13 Let every person pbe subject to the governing authorities. For qthere is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you rwill receive his approval, 4 for she is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, tan avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also ufor the sake of conscience. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. 7 vPay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.
Love it how the hatemongering fascists think they are theologians.

Delusional.

Yeah- you hatemongering fascists always cry "But the Bible" but always just cherry pick from it.

You mean like those of you that argue "Jesus didn't specifically mention homosexuality", therefore, it has to be OK while ignoring that Jesus referenced God's word in the OT about a man marrying a woman with no mention of man/man or woman/woman?

If YOU are going to cherry pick and ignore, make sure you, in typical Liberal fashion, justify how it's different for you.
 
Tough titties. The yokel can peddle his wares plenty of other places.

You mean like the fags could have had somewhere else make their cake?

Or the farmer could have followed the city laws.

You know- like the Bible says.

You do know the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination. Do you agree with that or are you going to ignore it when it's not what you like to hear?

I do know that the New Testament says that Christians are supposed to follow the law- and Christians are supposed to follow the New Testament.

Of course the New Testament doesn't say homosexuality is an abomination- matter of fact Jesus doesn't even mention homosexuality. He does say that remarriage after divorce- you know like President Trump- is adultery.

Or maybe you are one of those "Old Testament" Christians- who doesn't eat shellfish or cut his beard?

In the same passage about divorce (Matthew 19), Jesus referenced what had been written in Genesis (OT) about a man (MALE) leaving his father/mother and being united with his wife (FEMALE). Even Jesus referenced the OT word of God. That reference doesn't mention a man being united with another man or a woman with another woman.

There are lots of things Jesus didn't mention specifically that I suspect you'd believe are wrong. Since He didn't, are you saying those things are OK to do? Based on your logic, they'd have to be.

Wait...you mean Jesus actually talked about Divorce? Jesus himself actually had something to say about Divorce? That's so weird....you'd think we'd be hearing about all these "good Christians" refusing to serve divorced people. How come we don't? There's a LOT more divorced people getting remarried than gay people getting married and yet not a single "god fearing" baker, florist or Farmer has refused to serve them.

Why?
 
You mean like the fags could have had somewhere else make their cake?

Or the farmer could have followed the city laws.

You know- like the Bible says.

You do know the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination. Do you agree with that or are you going to ignore it when it's not what you like to hear?

I do know that the New Testament says that Christians are supposed to follow the law- and Christians are supposed to follow the New Testament.

Of course the New Testament doesn't say homosexuality is an abomination- matter of fact Jesus doesn't even mention homosexuality. He does say that remarriage after divorce- you know like President Trump- is adultery.

Or maybe you are one of those "Old Testament" Christians- who doesn't eat shellfish or cut his beard?

In the same passage about divorce (Matthew 19), Jesus referenced what had been written in Genesis (OT) about a man (MALE) leaving his father/mother and being united with his wife (FEMALE). Even Jesus referenced the OT word of God. That reference doesn't mention a man being united with another man or a woman with another woman.

There are lots of things Jesus didn't mention specifically that I suspect you'd believe are wrong. Since He didn't, are you saying those things are OK to do? Based on your logic, they'd have to be.

Wait...you mean Jesus actually talked about Divorce? Jesus himself actually had something to say about Divorce? That's so weird....you'd think we'd be hearing about all these "good Christians" refusing to serve divorced people. How come we don't? There's a LOT more divorced people getting remarried than gay people getting married and yet not a single "god fearing" baker, florist or Farmer has refused to serve them.

Why?

Jesus actually talked about marriage and it being between a man and a woman. How come we keep hearing that Jesus never mentioned marriage when in the same passage about divorce (Matthew 19) he did?
 
Or the farmer could have followed the city laws.

You know- like the Bible says.

You do know the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination. Do you agree with that or are you going to ignore it when it's not what you like to hear?

I do know that the New Testament says that Christians are supposed to follow the law- and Christians are supposed to follow the New Testament.

Of course the New Testament doesn't say homosexuality is an abomination- matter of fact Jesus doesn't even mention homosexuality. He does say that remarriage after divorce- you know like President Trump- is adultery.

Or maybe you are one of those "Old Testament" Christians- who doesn't eat shellfish or cut his beard?

In the same passage about divorce (Matthew 19), Jesus referenced what had been written in Genesis (OT) about a man (MALE) leaving his father/mother and being united with his wife (FEMALE). Even Jesus referenced the OT word of God. That reference doesn't mention a man being united with another man or a woman with another woman.

There are lots of things Jesus didn't mention specifically that I suspect you'd believe are wrong. Since He didn't, are you saying those things are OK to do? Based on your logic, they'd have to be.

Wait...you mean Jesus actually talked about Divorce? Jesus himself actually had something to say about Divorce? That's so weird....you'd think we'd be hearing about all these "good Christians" refusing to serve divorced people. How come we don't? There's a LOT more divorced people getting remarried than gay people getting married and yet not a single "god fearing" baker, florist or Farmer has refused to serve them.

Why?

Jesus actually talked about marriage and it being between a man and a woman. How come we keep hearing that Jesus never mentioned marriage when in the same passage about divorce (Matthew 19) he did?

You're deflecting from the question. Who has said Jesus never talked about marriage? Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. Nothing, Not a word. He did have some things to say about divorce though didn't he? Was it good? Did he approve of divorce?
 
You do know the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination. Do you agree with that or are you going to ignore it when it's not what you like to hear?

I do know that the New Testament says that Christians are supposed to follow the law- and Christians are supposed to follow the New Testament.

Of course the New Testament doesn't say homosexuality is an abomination- matter of fact Jesus doesn't even mention homosexuality. He does say that remarriage after divorce- you know like President Trump- is adultery.

Or maybe you are one of those "Old Testament" Christians- who doesn't eat shellfish or cut his beard?

In the same passage about divorce (Matthew 19), Jesus referenced what had been written in Genesis (OT) about a man (MALE) leaving his father/mother and being united with his wife (FEMALE). Even Jesus referenced the OT word of God. That reference doesn't mention a man being united with another man or a woman with another woman.

There are lots of things Jesus didn't mention specifically that I suspect you'd believe are wrong. Since He didn't, are you saying those things are OK to do? Based on your logic, they'd have to be.

Wait...you mean Jesus actually talked about Divorce? Jesus himself actually had something to say about Divorce? That's so weird....you'd think we'd be hearing about all these "good Christians" refusing to serve divorced people. How come we don't? There's a LOT more divorced people getting remarried than gay people getting married and yet not a single "god fearing" baker, florist or Farmer has refused to serve them.

Why?

Jesus actually talked about marriage and it being between a man and a woman. How come we keep hearing that Jesus never mentioned marriage when in the same passage about divorce (Matthew 19) he did?

You're deflecting from the question. Who has said Jesus never talked about marriage? Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. Nothing, Not a word. He did have some things to say about divorce though didn't he? Was it good? Did he approve of divorce?

Are you saying that Jesus would have approved of your homosexual marriage? He did indicate, when referencing God's word in the OT, that marriage was between a man and a woman didn't he?

Jesus never specifically mentioned lots of things that I suspect you'd say are wrong. Not a word. Are you saying that they are OK because Jesus didn't say a word about them?
 
The Regressives say "tough shit". You should know better than to express your opinion. You will not be tolerated. You will be punished.

After all, this is America.

Of course you know this isn't about 'expressing your opinion', he clearly broke a city ordinance by discriminating against same sex couples. Take issue with that if you want to, but at least have a basic understanding of whats going on.
So if he refused to rent it out to a Nazi group, you would make him do it?

Nazi groups aren't covered by the city ordinance, so they'd have to go to Maralago.
So you would say the same with black lives matter to be denied?
 
I do know that the New Testament says that Christians are supposed to follow the law- and Christians are supposed to follow the New Testament.

Of course the New Testament doesn't say homosexuality is an abomination- matter of fact Jesus doesn't even mention homosexuality. He does say that remarriage after divorce- you know like President Trump- is adultery.

Or maybe you are one of those "Old Testament" Christians- who doesn't eat shellfish or cut his beard?

In the same passage about divorce (Matthew 19), Jesus referenced what had been written in Genesis (OT) about a man (MALE) leaving his father/mother and being united with his wife (FEMALE). Even Jesus referenced the OT word of God. That reference doesn't mention a man being united with another man or a woman with another woman.

There are lots of things Jesus didn't mention specifically that I suspect you'd believe are wrong. Since He didn't, are you saying those things are OK to do? Based on your logic, they'd have to be.

Wait...you mean Jesus actually talked about Divorce? Jesus himself actually had something to say about Divorce? That's so weird....you'd think we'd be hearing about all these "good Christians" refusing to serve divorced people. How come we don't? There's a LOT more divorced people getting remarried than gay people getting married and yet not a single "god fearing" baker, florist or Farmer has refused to serve them.

Why?

Jesus actually talked about marriage and it being between a man and a woman. How come we keep hearing that Jesus never mentioned marriage when in the same passage about divorce (Matthew 19) he did?

You're deflecting from the question. Who has said Jesus never talked about marriage? Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. Nothing, Not a word. He did have some things to say about divorce though didn't he? Was it good? Did he approve of divorce?

Are you saying that Jesus would have approved of your homosexual marriage? He did indicate, when referencing God's word in the OT, that marriage was between a man and a woman didn't he?

Jesus never specifically mentioned lots of things that I suspect you'd say are wrong. Not a word. Are you saying that they are OK because Jesus didn't say a word about them?


Oh look...You're deflecting again. Jesus actually mentioned divorce did he not? Jesus himself actually condemned divorce in no uncertain terms, is that not correct? Why are no bakers, florists, photographers, pizza kitchens or farmers refusing to serve divorced people? Jesus never said diddly about gays but "Christians" feel it's their "god given" duty to refuse to serve them....but happily bake wedding cakes for fat couples (gluttony is a deadly sin) and divorcees remarrying. Why the selective enforcement?
 
You do know the Bible says homosexuality is an abomination. Do you agree with that or are you going to ignore it when it's not what you like to hear?

Bible says a lot of things . Funny what "Christians " decide is important.

Funny how those like Syriusly that mention the Bible ignore it when the Bible says what they don't want to hear. Funny how you say people do things, implying it's wrong, then do the exactly same thing yourself justifying how it's different with you.

Hey . I agree that the Bible is against it. As it is for lots of things .

You tell me how someone can pick and choose what they follow . Is it a le carte religion??
Cafeteria christianity.

Exactly like you do.
I'm not christian....so, not really seeing how what you claim is possible. But thanks for playing, boyo.
 
Did you notice the government assholes think Lansing property is their personal property when it in fact belongs to the people. Very typical of government fiefdoms.
Of course it beongs to the people. The ones that voted for the ordinance violated by the farmer.

He didn't violate anything.


He did.

The East Lansing Farmer’s Market 2017 Vendor Guidelines state that market vendors will embody the spirit of the market by complying with the City of East Lansing’s Civil Rights ordinances and the public policy against discrimination contained in Chapter 22 of the East Lansing City Code while at the market and as a general business practice.

Chapter 22 of the East Lansing City Code can be found here: Municode Library.
 

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