percysunshine
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Obamas economic policies look suprisingly like Benito Mussolinis policies. Go figure.
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Yes. Franco was a left winger. Franco pretty much implemented the exact same economic policies as FDR.
Now you are getting it, Bripat - excellent!
"The streets of our country are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with her might, and the Republic is in danger. Yes - danger from within and without. We need law and order! Without it our nation cannot survive."
In view of the complete subordination of the present State to Marxism, the National Socialist Movement feels all the more bound not only to prepare the way for the triumph of its idea by appealing to the reason and understanding of the public but also to take upon itself the responsibility of organizing its own defence against the terror of the International, which is intoxicated with its own victory.
In this way the struggle against the present State was placed on a higher plane than that of petty revenge and small conspiracies. It was elevated to the level of a spiritual struggle on behalf of a WELTANSCHAUUNG, for the destruction of Marxism in all its shapes and forms.
In the years 1913 and 1914 I expressed my opinion for the first time in various circles, some of which are now members of the National Socialist Movement, that the problem of how the future of the German nation can be secured is the problem of how Marxism can be exterminated.
Adolf Hitler's political views - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Game, set and match.
Not so fast.
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
Not so fast.
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
Where does he claim he's not a socialist?
"The streets of our country are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with her might, and the Republic is in danger. Yes - danger from within and without. We need law and order! Without it our nation cannot survive."
Adolf Hitler
Quote one saying what you claimed. I'm not going to read all those authors.
Oh, I'm sure you aren't. But I have.
Rather than type out stuff from books without links, I prefer to quote the great fascist Franco:
"One thing that I am sure of, and which I can answer truthfully, is that whatever the contingencies that may arise here, wherever I am there will be no Communism."
"We strive to form a single national front against the Judeo-Masonic lodges, against Moscow and the Marxist societies"
"Let us be under no illusion. The Jewish spirit, which was responsible for the alliance of large-scale capital with Marxism and was the driving force behind so many anti-Spanish revolutionary agreements, will not be got rid of in a day."
"We have torn up Marxist materialism and we have disorientated Masonry. We have thwarted the Satanic machinations of the clandestine Masonic superstate. Despite its control of the worlds press and numerous international politicians. Spains struggle is a Crusade; as soldiers of God we carry with us the evangelism of the world"
Francisco Franco - Wikiquote
Gone Bersek -
Communism is the extreme outcome of left-wing policies, socialism is to the right of it
Then why does Hitler, Franco, Mussolini and every dictionary known to man say the opposite?
Socialism is a fraud, a comedy, a phantom, a blackmail.
Mussolini
Read more at Benito Mussolini Quotes - BrainyQuote
Hitler killed socialists and communists.
Game, set and match.
Not so fast.
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
FAIL
A lot can change in 20 years.
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains," Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.
"So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death," Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.
Simple question for you, wad catcher.
Were Nazis authoritarian central planners, or not?
Therein is your problem, seeking simple answers to complex issues is ridiculous (which characterizes most if not all of your posts).
First, define "central planners"; I suspect you have no idea.
Another leftist runs away like a scared little puppy.
Now you're arguing that socialism doesn't mean socialism.
You're ignoring the Hilter quote I posted. He says himself that he's a socialist. Respond to that.
Bripat -
I disagree - I think an awful lot has been proven on this thread.
I really hadn't expected the thread would get a lot of replies, given the basis for it is such everyday common knowledge, but it's been quite an eye opener.
I would have posted Hitler's quotes in the beginning had I realised so many posters weren't up to speed on this, but next time I won't overestimate the forums' education!
A truly amazing thread.
You're ignoring the Hilter quote I posted. He says himself that he's a socialist. Respond to that.
Hitler killed socialists and communists.
So did Stalin and Mao
Being against Communism doesn't mean you aren't a socialist. That argument has already been debunked.
Not so fast.
FAIL
A lot can change in 20 years.
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains," Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.
"So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death," Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.
You should be able to source those. Most of these "anti-christians" quotes are hearsay. They were never spoken in public nor appear in Hitler's writings.
The fact remains that Pope Pius signed a treaty with Hitler. The fact remains that it's been Christian doctrine to eradicate other religions.
Hitler was a natural progression of this doctrine.
Not so fast.
Where does he claim he's not a socialist?
"The streets of our country are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with her might, and the Republic is in danger. Yes - danger from within and without. We need law and order! Without it our nation cannot survive."
Adolf Hitler
Hitler killed socialists and communists.
Bripat -
I disagree - I think an awful lot has been proven on this thread.
I really hadn't expected the thread would get a lot of replies, given the basis for it is such everyday common knowledge, but it's been quite an eye opener.
I would have posted Hitler's quotes in the beginning had I realised so many posters weren't up to speed on this, but next time I won't overestimate the forums' education!
A truly amazing thread.
You're ignoring the Hilter quote I posted. He says himself that he's a socialist. Respond to that.
Hitler was no more honest than American politicians, so I would not take his quotes as indictative of much. Hitler's quotes probably changed as he gained power. His socialism thing was part of that gaining power, but once he is the master of his realm, goodby socialists.
Might try some histories of the Third Reich or even books on political ideologies.
There are still people that believe Truman was a Republican.
Now you're arguing that socialism doesn't mean socialism.
You're ignoring the Hilter quote I posted. He says himself that he's a socialist. Respond to that.
It does now - it did not in 1924.
Hitler was a "National Socialist", i.e. Nazi. Which is entirely its own concept.
Read on...
Hitler had objected to the party's previous leader's decision to use the word "Socialist" in its name as Hitler at the time instead preferred to use "Social Revolutionary". Upon taking over the leadership, Hitler kept the term but defined "socialism" as meaning a commitment of an individual to a community. Hitler also claimed that unconditional equality of opportunity for all "racially sound" Aryan males was the essence of the "Socialism" of "National Socialism".
National Socialism (common English short form Nazism, German: Nationalsozialismus) was the ideology of the Nazi Party and Nazi Germany. It is a variety of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism. Nazism used elements of the far-right racist Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture which fought against the communists in post-World War I Germany. It was designed to draw workers away from communism and into Völkisch nationalism. Major elements of Nazism have been described as far-right, such as allowing domination of society by people deemed racially superior, while purging society of people declared inferior which were said to be a threat to national survival.
Nazism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Where does he claim he's not a socialist?
"The streets of our country are in turmoil. The universities are filled with students rebelling and rioting. Communists are seeking to destroy our country. Russia is threatening us with her might, and the Republic is in danger. Yes - danger from within and without. We need law and order! Without it our nation cannot survive."
Adolf Hitler
Hitler killed socialists and communists.
So did Stalin
So did Mao
So did Pol Pot
So did Fidel and Che
Hitler did it to eradicate communism and socialism.
Stalin and Mao did it to get rid of enemies in the party.