FBI Raid On Trump's Mar-A-Lago Had No Valid Legal Basis

[Billy_Bob]

What are the 5 newspapers? And how would they even know, without the facts in the affidavit?

And are you sure you are not confusing OPINION articles instead of this being the actual newspaper's stance?

NYT, Wash Post, NY post, AP, WJ... for starters... others are now following.. Even FOX is in this..

When the liberal NYTimes and the AP flies the coup, you have real problems with the narrative.

 

[struth]

The WSJ is just flat wrong.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/national-archives-letter-trump-fbi/1a5fa3f08cdb0f7d/full.pdf

The DoJ, even the Biden admin, bent over backwards to cut Don some slack as evidenced by this letter. The letter also provides the legal predicate for the issuance of the search warrant.

That was about material that Trump's team had already turned over. I do agree it lays out how Xiden's team had started to use the material turned over, back in Feb, as a bases to do this unpredented political raid of Xiden's political rival

 

[Care4all]

Do you think Biden should be held to the same standards?

When he becomes an ex president, you're damn right I do! Those records do not go with you!

A president can negotiate something special to them, like Kim J Un's letter, with NARA...and they may let the president keep the original, after the Archives makes a copy, for their presidential records.

 

[Billo_Really]

The Wall Street Journal lays out the reasoning as to why the FBI raid was illegal.

The Presidential Record Act (PRA) of 1978 (Link) grants former presidents complete access to all records created under their admin.

"The PRA explicitly guarantees a former president continuing access to his papers. Those papers must ultimately be made public, but in the meantime—unlike with all other government documents, which are available 24/7 to currently serving executive-branch officials—the PRA establishes restrictions on access to a former president’s records, including a five-year restriction on access applicable to everyone (including the sitting president, absent a showing of need), which can be extended until the records have been properly reviewed and processed. Before leaving office, a president can restrict access to certain materials for up to 12 years.

The only exceptions are for National Archives personnel working on the materials, judicial process, the incumbent president and Congress (in cases of established need) and the former president himself. PRA section 2205(3) specifically commands that “the Presidential records of a former President shall be available to such former President or the former President’s designated representative,” regardless of any of these restrictions.

Nothing in the PRA suggests that the former president’s physical custody of his records can be considered unlawful under the statutes on which the Mar-a-Lago warrant is based. Yet the statute’s text makes clear that Congress considered how certain criminal-law provisions would interact with the PRA: It provides that the archivist is not to make materials available to the former president’s designated representative “if that individual has been convicted of a crime relating to the review, retention, removal, or destruction of records of the Archives.”

In making a former president’s records available to him, the PRA doesn’t distinguish between materials that are and aren’t classified."

Opinion | The Trump Warrant Had No Legal Basis

A former president’s rights under the Presidential Records Act trump the statutes the FBI cited to justify the Mar-a-Lago raid.

www.wsj.com

The problem is, Trump had documents not relating to his Administration.

 

[Care4all]

NYT, Wash Post, NY post, AP, WJ... for starters... others are now following.. Even FOX is in this..

Were they opinion pieces?

The New York times has some of the best factual reporting on this, in their news articles, say no such thing, same with the Washington post.

 

[struth]

The problem is, Trump had documents not relating to his Administration.

Correct, they were personal documents, that belong to him....such as the attorney-client priv material, his passport, his freakin bday party menu....

Yet, the Stalinist in the Xiden admin raided his home for them

 

[Billy_Bob]

Were they opinion pieces?

The New York times has some of the best factual reporting on this, in their news articles, say no such thing, same with the Washington post.

How predictable... Some were, some were not... but keep spinning. It's all you have now.

 

[Nostra]

Did you even read the PRA that you linked to? If you had, you would have found this:

• Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.

What part of the above, did you not get?

 

[Billo_Really]

Correct, they were personal documents, that belong to him....such as the attorney-client priv material, his passport, his freakin bday party menu....

Yet, the Stalinist in the Xiden admin raided his home for them

I said not relating to his Administration, which includes personal property.

 

[Care4all]

The problem is, Trump had documents not relating to his Administration.

AND most IMPORTANTLY the former president has ACCESS to his records....he DOES NOT hold on to them or store them, himself. He has full access, not possession, under the law!

 

[Billy_Bob]

Correct, they were personal documents, that belong to him....such as the attorney-client priv material, his passport, his freakin bday party menu....

Yet, the Stalinist in the Xiden admin raided his home for them

And this would be why "general warrants", according to SCOTUS case law, are unconstitutional. They deprive people of property that is unrelated to any potential crime. This is also how the democrats' fish for unrelated crimes and narratives to push.

This is blowing up in their faces more and more each day.

 

[Pete7469]

What are the 5 newspapers? And how would they even know, without the facts in the affidavit?

And are you sure you are not confusing OPINION articles instead of this being the actual newspaper's stance?

Liberal attorney Alan Dershowitz blasts DOJ for 'unconstitutional' raid on Mar-a-Lago: 'Absolutely outrageous' | Blaze Media

Liberal attorney Alan Dershowitz condemned the FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago Tuesday as "unconstitutional."The FBI raided Mar-a-Lago on Monday to reportedly retrieve classified documents that former President Donald Trump allegedly took from the White House and stored at his south Florida home. The...

www.theblaze.com

Are you sure you aren't doing exactly that?

We'll see what the courts say of course, and just like every other failed witch hunt, they'll likely dismiss the democrook's bullshit.

 

[Billy_Bob]

I said not relating to his Administration, which includes personal property.

All paperwork of his administration are HIS to control. You're reaching again. Read the PRA.

 

[Billo_Really]

AND most IMPORTANTLY the former president has ACCESS to his records....he DOES NOT hold on to them or store them, himself. He has full access, not possession, under the law!

After he leaves office, he no longer has access to classified information.

 

[Nostra]

The WSJ is just flat wrong.

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/national-archives-letter-trump-fbi/1a5fa3f08cdb0f7d/full.pdf

The DoJ, even the Biden admin, bent over backwards to cut Don some slack as evidenced by this letter. The letter also provides the legal predicate for the issuance of the search warrant.

The letter is dated in April, Simp. They were at MAL in June and collected boxes then. So WTF does this have to do with the raid in August?

 

[Nostra]

When he becomes an ex president, you're damn right I do! Those records do not go with you!

A president can negotiate something special to them, like Kim J Un's letter, with NARA...and they may let the president keep the original, after the Archives makes a copy, for their presidential records.

 

[Billo_Really]

All paperwork of his administration are HIS to control. You're reaching again. Read the PRA.

Not classified paperwork. I'm sorry, in this country, we don't have dictators.

 

[Nostra]

The problem is, Trump had documents not relating to his Administration.

He did? What are they?

Provide a link.

 

[Billy_Bob]

After he leaves office, he no longer has access to classified information.

LOL... the papers he possessed were declassified, by his order, as attested to by staff. Prove differently...

 

[Billy_Bob]

Not classified paperwork. I'm sorry, in this country, we don't have dictators.

I suggest you read the Presidential Records Act... You are ignorant of the law. The act sates that Trump, or any other president, may possess all records of his administration and makes no distinction between classified and unclassified documents.