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You had to go out of your way to deny that you fear religion when no one claimed you did. I think you protest too much.
What is scary is the length people are willing to go to deprive religious people of their rights and disenfranchise them.
Now...Now...kids... Let's not get this moved to a foodfight forum!
I'm sorry Sky Dancerer... I understand that you are gay.. There is nothing wrong with that on any level... You are proud and rightly so.
HouseGimp is a faggot. He is not proud of his homosexuality and does not represent his homosexuality well on any level. I have to side with High Gravity on this.. he deserves any and all insults that come his way. Choosing to align yourself with him based solely on sexual orientation is unfortunate. He does not deserve your support.
I understand that men and boys like to use anti-gay slurs. I'm sorry, but to me, it's the equivalent of callling a black person, (especially someone you don't like), a "******".
I have no idea who "Housegimp" is. I am not posting this to support him. I point out how offensive that slur is to me. I don't like any racial slurs or anti-gay slurs.
I realize you don't understand that, and it's not going to stop you, but I have to be heard on it.
Now...Now...kids... Let's not get this moved to a foodfight forum!
I'm sorry Sky Dancerer... I understand that you are gay.. There is nothing wrong with that on any level... You are proud and rightly so.
HouseGimp is a faggot. He is not proud of his homosexuality and does not represent his homosexuality well on any level. I have to side with High Gravity on this.. he deserves any and all insults that come his way. Choosing to align yourself with him based solely on sexual orientation is unfortunate. He does not deserve your support.
I understand that men and boys like to use anti-gay slurs. I'm sorry, but to me, it's the equivalent of callling a black person, (especially someone you don't like), a "******".
I have no idea who "Housegimp" is. I am not posting this to support him. I point out how offensive that slur is to me. I don't like any racial slurs or anti-gay slurs.
I realize you don't understand that, and it's not going to stop you, but I have to be heard on it.
I try to stay away from sweeping generalities.... so do most of my real world friends...some of which have called me "******"(it always cracks me up)...can't say anybody that knows me personally has called me a faggot.
I appreciate you want and need to be heard on this off topic. I wouldn't have brought it up except that it was HouseGimps comment associated with this thread on a neg rep. You are welcome to correct me as you see the need on any topic I start or reply to. You already know that I respect your sensitivity. I just won't Sky Dance around it as that is not my style.
Maybe part of what you do not get about me and maybe other straight people(guys that is) is that we are competitive and unforgiving of bad form ourselves.
I don't hate HouseGimp because he is gay. He disgusts me on many levels and his closet homosexuality is just an insignificant part of it. One thing I will not do is pull punches with those that pretend to know better. I will always try to bend over backwards to accommodate the young, women, the disadvantaged and those who's lack of strength is no fault of their own. Those that make it a point to willfully ignorantly be my adversary I make a point to crush if it doesn't take up more energy than their destruction is worth. Ya ....It's a juvenile guy thing..I get it..I'm desperately trying to cling to what is left of my youth...
I hate what Islam is doing to women and gays in the Middle East and in Asia.
I have no problem with American Muslims, they must obey OUR laws, not Shariah.
You had to go out of your way to deny that you fear religion when no one claimed you did. I think you protest too much.
What is scary is the length people are willing to go to deprive religious people of their rights and disenfranchise them.
You have the absolute right, guaranteed by the First Amendment to practice your religion freely from congressional interference. However, that absolute right does not provide you the right to force you beliefs on others, or to engage in religious rituals which may offend or endanger the public.
I know of no examples wherein a person has been disenfranchised - I suppose you mean denied the right to vote - because of their religious choice. If you have evidence of such activities post them, if not don't make stuff up.
Walk around all you want with a sandwich board warning the End is Near; but don't block the sidewalk or assault those who belief otherwise (or think you're nuts).
I for one do not fear religion. What is frightening is that most human beings are stupid enough to believe that rubbish.
Will religion kill off the homo sapiens? No. What will do us in is the inability to face reality.
We are indeed doomed but like religion it is a fate of our own creation.
All organized religion is just a symptom of the true weakness of mankind. We are being led by babies crying in the dark. We only have ourselves to blame for it.
You people that keep babbling bible quotes are not the problem...no one is forced to believe your nonsense...but they do. I do not blame you for the stupidity of the people that follow your ridiculous crap. If they do not or cannot see what a bald faced lie is then how can they navigate anything in this life?
Bush nor Obama are the problem. It is the average individual that will fall for ANYTHING out of fear that is the source of our crumbling foundation.
All religion is based on fear....yes Sky Dancer...even Buddhists. Hiding from reality in the name of peace is just being organized cowards.
Only truth is power...all else is weakness.
There is no need to fear religion. It is just a symptom of what we must fear.
I for one do not fear religion. What is frightening is that most human beings are stupid enough to believe that rubbish.
Will religion kill off the homo sapiens? No. What will do us in is the inability to face reality.
We are indeed doomed but like religion it is a fate of our own creation.
All organized religion is just a symptom of the true weakness of mankind. We are being led by babies crying in the dark. We only have ourselves to blame for it.
You people that keep babbling bible quotes are not the problem...no one is forced to believe your nonsense...but they do. I do not blame you for the stupidity of the people that follow your ridiculous crap. If they do not or cannot see what a bald faced lie is then how can they navigate anything in this life?
Bush nor Obama are the problem. It is the average individual that will fall for ANYTHING out of fear that is the source of our crumbling foundation.
All religion is based on fear....yes Sky Dancer...even Buddhists. Hiding from reality in the name of peace is just being organized cowards.
Only truth is power...all else is weakness.
There is no need to fear religion. It is just a symptom of what we must fear.
Look at the world what do you see mostly? Peace? Love? Respect? In small circles, perhaps yes, and many are trying and many succeed which is wonderful.
Overall though, as a human race we lean toward chaos and that is the reality. Just check the news, check history. We aren't living in some Utopia, that's for sure. In the last 100years alone we've had 2 World wars. What do you suppose is going to happen, or what will need to happen in order to obtain "world" peace? Will we ever obtain it? Highly unlikely...not without some world dictator trying to wipe out what they don't like.
So, if you say cross out all those who have religion, then that would be YOUR own type religion or dictatorship to wipe out the rest, wouldn't it?
Humility and peace come when we realize we are indeed weak and we are very capable of hurting others and ourselves. And that we are not in control of all things. We "sin", plain and simple... we freakin need help.
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I for one do not fear religion. What is frightening is that most human beings are stupid enough to believe that rubbish.
Will religion kill off the homo sapiens? No. What will do us in is the inability to face reality.
We are indeed doomed but like religion it is a fate of our own creation.
All organized religion is just a symptom of the true weakness of mankind. We are being led by babies crying in the dark. We only have ourselves to blame for it.
You people that keep babbling bible quotes are not the problem...no one is forced to believe your nonsense...but they do. I do not blame you for the stupidity of the people that follow your ridiculous crap. If they do not or cannot see what a bald faced lie is then how can they navigate anything in this life?
Bush nor Obama are the problem. It is the average individual that will fall for ANYTHING out of fear that is the source of our crumbling foundation.
All religion is based on fear....yes Sky Dancer...even Buddhists. Hiding from reality in the name of peace is just being organized cowards.
Only truth is power...all else is weakness.
There is no need to fear religion. It is just a symptom of what we must fear.
Look at the world what do you see mostly? Peace? Love? Respect? In small circles, perhaps yes, and many are trying and many succeed which is wonderful.
Overall though, as a human race we lean toward chaos and that is the reality. Just check the news, check history. We aren't living in some Utopia, that's for sure. In the last 100years alone we've had 2 World wars. What do you suppose is going to happen, or what will need to happen in order to obtain "world" peace? Will we ever obtain it? Highly unlikely...not without some world dictator trying to wipe out what they don't like.
So, if you say cross out all those who have religion, then that would be YOUR own type religion or dictatorship to wipe out the rest, wouldn't it?
Humility and peace come when we realize we are indeed weak and we are very capable of hurting others and ourselves. And that we are not in control of all things. We "sin", plain and simple... we freakin need help.
.
Eh, Jesus was pretty cool, but I don't need to worship his father who has a pattern of random genocide in order to avoid being immoral and chaotic.
Even in preaching His Word God knew it would cause division as some people will not receive it. Plus we got Satan and his followers in there deceiving tons of people, which deceive more and more people, and eventually a great falling away as said in the Bible also.Luke 12
51Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
52For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
John 14:27
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
John 16:33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
Jesus’ second coming will be exceedingly violent. Revelation 19:11-21 describes the ultimate war with Christ, the conquering commander who judges and makes war “with justice” (v. 11). It’s going to be bloody (v. 13) and gory. The birds will eat the flesh of all those who oppose Him (v. 17-18). He has no compassion upon His enemies, whom He will conquer completely and consign to a “fiery lake of burning sulfur” (v. 20).
It is an error to say that God never supports a war. Jesus is not a pacifist. In a world filled with evil people, sometimes war is necessary to prevent even greater evil. If Hitler had not been defeated by World War II, how many more millions would have been killed? If the American Civil War had not been fought, how much longer would African-Americans have had to suffer as slaves?
Look at the world what do you see mostly? Peace? Love? Respect? In small circles, perhaps yes, and many are trying and many succeed which is wonderful.
Overall though, as a human race we lean toward chaos and that is the reality. Just check the news, check history. We aren't living in some Utopia, that's for sure. In the last 100years alone we've had 2 World wars. What do you suppose is going to happen, or what will need to happen in order to obtain "world" peace? Will we ever obtain it? Highly unlikely...not without some world dictator trying to wipe out what they don't like.
So, if you say cross out all those who have religion, then that would be YOUR own type religion or dictatorship to wipe out the rest, wouldn't it?
Humility and peace come when we realize we are indeed weak and we are very capable of hurting others and ourselves. And that we are not in control of all things. We "sin", plain and simple... we freakin need help.
.
Eh, Jesus was pretty cool, but I don't need to worship his father who has a pattern of random genocide in order to avoid being immoral and chaotic.
That is because you do not yet understand the relationship yet, the Trinity. Yes, its a great mystery, even the Bible says so. Its amazing. Upon being born again by His Spirit, the Lord will reveal more to you about the Father by His Spirit. One God, three persons. Even still, a great mystery.
As for peace in the "world" even Jesus Christ our Lord said this Himself
Even in preaching His Word God knew it would cause division as some people will not receive it. Plus we got Satan and his followers in there deceiving tons of people, which deceive more and more people, and eventually a great falling away as said in the Bible also.
Peace and humility comes when we realize we cant do it on our own, when we trust in HIM, and repent from not believing Him in the first place, and realize we are all sinners, in need of daily repentance and His sanctification.
Humility is partly admitting we are sinners, that we are very capable of hurting others, we are not better than others; we are all in the same boat, and that we need the LORD.
In the world we will NEVER have true peace; will WILL have tribulations...just like Jesus said also, and to date, His Word holds true, and it will hold true until the end. It is in HIM we have peace, and it is HE that has overcome the world by His love, His sacrifice... all for us.John 14:27
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
John 16:33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
I realize its hard to understand so many things in the Old Testament, but if you study more and not kick against it or believe "man" who kicks agains it, and ask Jesus Christ yourself to help you understand more about it..He will.
If you want...heres some topic examples in regard to this in Bible Questions Answered. For the hard questions in the Bible, alot of times just Google them. Then test for sure what is taught by any site for yourself with God's Word. Make sure it's not a false teaching. Yes, that means don't believe me even, lol...search the scriptures yourself.
Why did God condone such terrible violence in the Old Testament?
What does the Bible say about war?
Jesus second coming will be exceedingly violent. Revelation 19:11-21 describes the ultimate war with Christ, the conquering commander who judges and makes war with justice (v. 11). Its going to be bloody (v. 13) and gory. The birds will eat the flesh of all those who oppose Him (v. 17-18). He has no compassion upon His enemies, whom He will conquer completely and consign to a fiery lake of burning sulfur (v. 20).
It is an error to say that God never supports a war. Jesus is not a pacifist. In a world filled with evil people, sometimes war is necessary to prevent even greater evil. If Hitler had not been defeated by World War II, how many more millions would have been killed? If the American Civil War had not been fought, how much longer would African-Americans have had to suffer as slaves?
What does the Bible teach about the Trinity?
.
[I realize it’s hard to understand so many things in the Old Testament, but if you study more and not kick against it or believe "man" who kicks agains it, and ask Jesus Christ yourself to help you understand more about it..He will.
I for one do not fear religion. What is frightening is that most human beings are stupid enough to believe that rubbish.
Will religion kill off the homo sapiens? No. What will do us in is the inability to face reality.
We are indeed doomed but like religion it is a fate of our own creation.
All organized religion is just a symptom of the true weakness of mankind. We are being led by babies crying in the dark. We only have ourselves to blame for it.
You people that keep babbling bible quotes are not the problem...no one is forced to believe your nonsense...but they do. I do not blame you for the stupidity of the people that follow your ridiculous crap. If they do not or cannot see what a bald faced lie is then how can they navigate anything in this life?
Bush nor Obama are the problem. It is the average individual that will fall for ANYTHING out of fear that is the source of our crumbling foundation.
All religion is based on fear....yes Sky Dancer...even Buddhists. Hiding from reality in the name of peace is just being organized cowards.
Only truth is power...all else is weakness.
There is no need to fear religion. It is just a symptom of what we must fear.
Look at the world what do you see mostly? Peace? Love? Respect? In small circles, perhaps yes, and many are trying and many succeed which is wonderful.
Overall though, as a human race we lean toward chaos and that is the reality. Just check the news, check history. We aren't living in some Utopia, that's for sure. In the last 100years alone we've had 2 World wars. What do you suppose is going to happen, or what will need to happen in order to obtain "world" peace? Will we ever obtain it? Highly unlikely...not without some world dictator trying to wipe out what they don't like.
So, if you say cross out all those who have religion, then that would be YOUR own type religion or dictatorship to wipe out the rest, wouldn't it?
Humility and peace come when we realize we are indeed weak and we are very capable of hurting others and ourselves. And that we are not in control of all things. We "sin", plain and simple... we freakin need help.
.
I hate what Islam is doing to women and gays in the Middle East and in Asia.
I have no problem with American Muslims, they must obey OUR laws, not Shariah.
For some Islamic law supersedes all man made laws, American or otherwise.
Speaking as a believer or some kind or the other, I am as fearful of a theocratically dominated society as the most hardened atheist on this or any other board on the net.
Far too many of my fellow believers are really closet totalitarians who imagine that their GOD gives then the right to screw anybody who gets in their holier than thou crosshairs.
Look at the world what do you see mostly? Peace? Love? Respect? In small circles, perhaps yes, and many are trying and many succeed which is wonderful.
Overall though, as a human race we lean toward chaos and that is the reality. Just check the news, check history. We aren't living in some Utopia, that's for sure. In the last 100years alone we've had 2 World wars. What do you suppose is going to happen, or what will need to happen in order to obtain "world" peace? Will we ever obtain it? Highly unlikely...not without some world dictator trying to wipe out what they don't like.
So, if you say cross out all those who have religion, then that would be YOUR own type religion or dictatorship to wipe out the rest, wouldn't it?
Humility and peace come when we realize we are indeed weak and we are very capable of hurting others and ourselves. And that we are not in control of all things. We "sin", plain and simple... we freakin need help.
.
Eh, Jesus was pretty cool, but I don't need to worship his father who has a pattern of random genocide in order to avoid being immoral and chaotic.
That is because you do not yet understand the relationship yet, the Trinity. Yes, its a great mystery, even the Bible says so. Its amazing. Upon being born again by His Spirit, the Lord will reveal more to you about the Father by His Spirit. One God, three persons. Even still, a great mystery.
As for peace in the "world" even Jesus Christ our Lord said this Himself
Even in preaching His Word God knew it would cause division as some people will not receive it. Plus we got Satan and his followers in there deceiving tons of people, which deceive more and more people, and eventually a great falling away as said in the Bible also.
Peace and humility comes when we realize we cant do it on our own, when we trust in HIM, and repent from not believing Him in the first place, and realize we are all sinners, in need of daily repentance and His sanctification.
Humility is partly admitting we are sinners, that we are very capable of hurting others, we are not better than others; we are all in the same boat, and that we need the LORD.
In the world we will NEVER have true peace; will WILL have tribulations...just like Jesus said also, and to date, His Word holds true, and it will hold true until the end. It is in HIM we have peace, and it is HE that has overcome the world by His love, His sacrifice... all for us.John 14:27
Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
John 16:33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
I realize its hard to understand so many things in the Old Testament, but if you study more and not kick against it or believe "man" who kicks agains it, and ask Jesus Christ yourself to help you understand more about it..He will.
If you want...heres some topic examples in regard to this in Bible Questions Answered. For the hard questions in the Bible, alot of times just Google them. Then test for sure what is taught by any site for yourself with God's Word. Make sure it's not a false teaching. Yes, that means don't believe me even, lol...search the scriptures yourself.
Why did God condone such terrible violence in the Old Testament?
What does the Bible say about war?
Jesus second coming will be exceedingly violent. Revelation 19:11-21 describes the ultimate war with Christ, the conquering commander who judges and makes war with justice (v. 11). Its going to be bloody (v. 13) and gory. The birds will eat the flesh of all those who oppose Him (v. 17-18). He has no compassion upon His enemies, whom He will conquer completely and consign to a fiery lake of burning sulfur (v. 20).
It is an error to say that God never supports a war. Jesus is not a pacifist. In a world filled with evil people, sometimes war is necessary to prevent even greater evil. If Hitler had not been defeated by World War II, how many more millions would have been killed? If the American Civil War had not been fought, how much longer would African-Americans have had to suffer as slaves?
What does the Bible teach about the Trinity?
.