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To the Politicians it's about politics.............to us it is not...............so Captain Obvious is wrong.........oops1. Will excepted employees be paid for performing work during a shutdown furlough? If so, when will excepted employees receive such payments?
A. Agencies will incur obligations to pay for services performed by excepted employees during a lapse in appropriations, and those employees will be paid after Congress passes and the President signs a new appropriation or continuing resolution.
https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-ove...-guidance/guidance-for-shutdown-furloughs.pdf
Yes we are paid after the funding is passed.
However the people that don’t work usually get paid too and basically get a free vacation without taking leave.
Which is one of the reasons a shutdown is so fucking stupid. It just waste more money...
tell that to Schumer and Pelosi, under obozo they voted to fund the wall, that money was appropriated, where the fuck is it?
now they oppose the wall because they want a talking point for 2020 that Trump did not keep his wall promise. That my ignorant little friend is all this is about.
you mean this is all about politics? no fucking way.
Here is the bottom line in all this:
The Republicans want border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it.
The Democrats don't want to stop the flow of illegals and look like they do.
Doesn't effect me at all..............Have a relative who it effects..............but this is about Forcing them to put their dang money where their mouths are over the years.To the Politicians it's about politics.............to us it is not...............so Captain Obvious is wrong.........oopsYes we are paid after the funding is passed.
However the people that don’t work usually get paid too and basically get a free vacation without taking leave.
Which is one of the reasons a shutdown is so fucking stupid. It just waste more money...
tell that to Schumer and Pelosi, under obozo they voted to fund the wall, that money was appropriated, where the fuck is it?
now they oppose the wall because they want a talking point for 2020 that Trump did not keep his wall promise. That my ignorant little friend is all this is about.
you mean this is all about politics? no fucking way.
I don't know about you, but for me and 99% of americans, this has zero impact. I don't care if it goes on for 6 months. Let the dems continue to make fools of themselves by opposing the same border security measures that they voted to fund during obozo's reign. Let the hypocrites rant and scream, it only hurts the dems.
Yes we are paid after the funding is passed.
However the people that don’t work usually get paid too and basically get a free vacation without taking leave.
Which is one of the reasons a shutdown is so fucking stupid. It just waste more money...
tell that to Schumer and Pelosi, under obozo they voted to fund the wall, that money was appropriated, where the fuck is it?
now they oppose the wall because they want a talking point for 2020 that Trump did not keep his wall promise. That my ignorant little friend is all this is about.
you mean this is all about politics? no fucking way.
for the dems it is, for Trump its about securing our southern border and controlling illegal entry to our country.
Oh horse shit. For Trump is is about keeping his base happy.
Here is the bottom line in all this:
The Republicans want border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it.
The Democrats don't want to stop the flow of illegals and look like they do.
If the Republicans wanted border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it, it would have already happened. you are falling victim to kabuki theater.
So we don't need TSA workers?I don't really care about these federal workers. They are parasites off those of us who work in the private sector and don't have all the protections they do.
They used the 2006 Fence act to get votes..........all championing protecting the border......got it passed then only spent a small amount on it........why the fences aren't effective.........they were never intended to be effective........that is why they have not sent enough funds to repair them as they degrade................Here is the bottom line in all this:
The Republicans want border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it.
The Democrats don't want to stop the flow of illegals and look like they do.
If the Republicans wanted border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it, it would have already happened. you are falling victim to kabuki theater.
both parties voted for and funded it under obozo, nothing was done. where did that money go? Do you give a shit?
Here is the bottom line in all this:
The Republicans want border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it.
The Democrats don't want to stop the flow of illegals and look like they do.
If the Republicans wanted border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it, it would have already happened. you are falling victim to kabuki theater.
both parties voted for and funded it under obozo, nothing was done. where did that money go? Do you give a shit? Was that some of the money that the Kenyan put on pallets and sent to Iran? Where the fuck did THAT money come from?
So we don't need TSA workers?I don't really care about these federal workers. They are parasites off those of us who work in the private sector and don't have all the protections they do.
Five Services That Won't Close in a Federal Government ShutdownSo we don't need TSA workers?I don't really care about these federal workers. They are parasites off those of us who work in the private sector and don't have all the protections they do.
Here is the bottom line in all this:
The Republicans want border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it.
The Democrats don't want to stop the flow of illegals and look like they do.
If the Republicans wanted border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it, it would have already happened. you are falling victim to kabuki theater.
both parties voted for and funded it under obozo, nothing was done. where did that money go? Do you give a shit? Was that some of the money that the Kenyan put on pallets and sent to Iran? Where the fuck did THAT money come from?
TSA doesn't have to exist............The airports can be given guidelines........for security.......they already do...........and then do the job and pay for it how they see fit for travel..............which would mean people would pay a little more for flying.......So we don't need TSA workers?I don't really care about these federal workers. They are parasites off those of us who work in the private sector and don't have all the protections they do.
No, we do not.
Mandatory spending is the Lion's share and bombs...............20 billion from U.S. aid to foreign countries..........We borrow money to give it away...............but can't add 3.4 Billion to the CBP over the CR amountHere is the bottom line in all this:
The Republicans want border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it.
The Democrats don't want to stop the flow of illegals and look like they do.
If the Republicans wanted border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it, it would have already happened. you are falling victim to kabuki theater.
both parties voted for and funded it under obozo, nothing was done. where did that money go? Do you give a shit? Was that some of the money that the Kenyan put on pallets and sent to Iran? Where the fuck did THAT money come from?
We added 1.3 trillion dollars to our debt this past year, where the fuck did that money go?
TSA doesn't have to exist............The airports can be given guidelines........for security.......they already do...........and then do the job and pay for it how they see fit for travel..............which would mean people would pay a little more for flying.......So we don't need TSA workers?I don't really care about these federal workers. They are parasites off those of us who work in the private sector and don't have all the protections they do.
No, we do not.
ICE and CBP could be watch dogs at POE airports after.............to ensure these screenings could be done as they are already there for customs screening in some places.
Mandatory spending is the Lion's share and bombs...............20 billion from U.S. aid to foreign countries..........We borrow money to give it away...............but can't add 3.4 Billion to the CBP over the CR amountHere is the bottom line in all this:
The Republicans want border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it.
The Democrats don't want to stop the flow of illegals and look like they do.
If the Republicans wanted border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it, it would have already happened. you are falling victim to kabuki theater.
both parties voted for and funded it under obozo, nothing was done. where did that money go? Do you give a shit? Was that some of the money that the Kenyan put on pallets and sent to Iran? Where the fuck did THAT money come from?
We added 1.3 trillion dollars to our debt this past year, where the fuck did that money go?
The spice must flow............accurate...........Mandatory spending is the Lion's share and bombs...............20 billion from U.S. aid to foreign countries..........We borrow money to give it away...............but can't add 3.4 Billion to the CBP over the CR amountHere is the bottom line in all this:
The Republicans want border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it.
The Democrats don't want to stop the flow of illegals and look like they do.
If the Republicans wanted border control and a halt to the flow of illegals crossing it, it would have already happened. you are falling victim to kabuki theater.
both parties voted for and funded it under obozo, nothing was done. where did that money go? Do you give a shit? Was that some of the money that the Kenyan put on pallets and sent to Iran? Where the fuck did THAT money come from?
We added 1.3 trillion dollars to our debt this past year, where the fuck did that money go?
We all know it is not about the money for either side.
Blame the Democrats, if they had helped pass a 2019 budget, none of this would be happening.
Double pay for damages.....#MAGAThe union said employees can’t be forced to work without pay.
A union representing federal workers sued the government Monday over the partial shutdown, saying it was illegal to have hundreds of thousands of employees work without pay during the funding lapse.
The American Federation of Government Employees filed the lawsuit on the shutdown’s 10th day, with no signs of an imminent resolution between Congress and the White House. The union said withholding the pay of workers who continue to clock in during the shutdown runs afoul of the Fair Labor Standards Act, the Great Depression-era law establishing a minimum wage and overtime pay.
“This is not an acceptable way for any employer, let alone the U.S. government, to treat its employees,” Heidi Burakiewicz, a lawyer representing the workers, said in a statement. “These employees still need to pay childcare expenses, buy gas, and incur other expenses to go to work every day and yet, they are not getting paid. It is a blatant violation.”
Some 380,000 federal employees have been furloughed during the shutdown, meaning they are out of a job until lawmakers reach a funding agreement. But another 420,000 are continuing to work in “essential” capacities such as in law enforcement, but are not being paid.
After previous shutdowns, Congress has passed legislation to retroactively pay furloughed employees and those who worked through the closures. But in the meantime, all those workers have bills to pay. Those who don’t have deep enough savings will face some hard choices if the shutdown continues to grind on.
AFGE previously sued the government under the same claims after the 2013 shutdown, which lasted 16 days. A judge later ruled that around 25,000 workers were owed double pay due to damages.
More: Federal Employee Union Sues Government Over Shutdown, Alleging Wage Violations
Sounds reasonable to me. What do you think?
