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Blasphemy!Why do we even have school lunch programs. We should just let mom prepare a home made meal for their kids. School lunch kind of sucks anyways.
I'm not sure if a fine is enough punishment for not following Michelle the Queen's edict.
I'm not sure if a fine is enough punishment for not following Michelle the Queen's edict.
50 lashes?
Why do we have feds meddling in education AT ALL???? They do NOT belong in our schools any more than they belong on our public lands. Get them the hell out.Why do we even have school lunch programs. We should just let mom prepare a home made meal for their kids. School lunch kind of sucks anyways.
Yup, keep on bogusly throwing out that 'race' card S...your willingness to stoop to any low to avoid the real issues never gets old.
Randall, I'm more interested in an answer to my other question. Actually, as a teacher, I understand both sides of the union issue. School districts are famous for taking advantage of the fact that experienced teachers make more $ than newbies and will get away with overloading classes, firing teachers because they are about to cost the district too much--they do it to new teachers who haven't got tenure yet, anyway. As a teacher, I've bought my own supplies, taught without enough text books to go around, all kinds of happy horseshit. And I never even thought of grieving it to the union. Teaching has always been hard. You expect it. However, without a union, things would be worse, and it would affect student achievement eventually.Shows what I know. Where DOES all this red tape and regulatory nonsense come from, then? They give the states money the states can't afford to refuse and it comes with all this garbage. That much I know to be true. So where does it come from?
Lady - you're probably as old (sorry) as I am. Tell me - do YOU remember teacher unions in the 50s? I didn't think so. The department of education began the "idea" of teacher representation. They support it whole-heartedly. Now - when teachers don't like the curriculum that a particular state or local jurisdiction has - they simply threaten to "strike" or stage a "walkout" and it is changed. The days of parents and teachers deciding what will or will not be taught is long over. Welcome to the USSR in public schools. Remove the Department of Education and every Teacher Union - and you will return to public schools that are the envy of the world - not the laughing stock.
I've got to run, but I look forward to knowing where all this education red tape comes from, if you know.
Well, hell, that's easy. Where does ALL "red-tape" come from? Any entity that says "government" on the side of the building. Oh, and (as a layman) I believe that tenure is the worst thing to EVER happen to school.
As a layman, there is about a 99.9% chance that your idea of tenure is incorrect.
As a college graduate, seeing the lazy, unemployable "professors" that sat on their fat asses, I believe I have enough understanding of the term "tenure". It means fat asses that have tenure are nearly impossible to fire for spreading their bullshit to the minds of impressionable children.
Does that apply to you?
Okay. But you had said all the Dept. of Ed did was form the union, which confused me. I thought you meant all the red tape came from somewhere else.Randall, I'm more interested in an answer to my other question. Actually, as a teacher, I understand both sides of the union issue. School districts are famous for taking advantage of the fact that experienced teachers make more $ than newbies and will get away with overloading classes, firing teachers because they are about to cost the district too much--they do it to new teachers who haven't got tenure yet, anyway. As a teacher, I've bought my own supplies, taught without enough text books to go around, all kinds of happy horseshit. And I never even thought of grieving it to the union. Teaching has always been hard. You expect it. However, without a union, things would be worse, and it would affect student achievement eventually.Shows what I know. Where DOES all this red tape and regulatory nonsense come from, then? They give the states money the states can't afford to refuse and it comes with all this garbage. That much I know to be true. So where does it come from?I agree with you. That USDA stuff was fine, as far as I am concerned, and I agree I'd almost like to see the DOE out of business, except that it does "level the playing field" for poor and rural, sparsely populated states and school districts, I'm told. Don't know how that works; I have never actually understood why they got their nose into it to begin with.
Actually, the only thing the DOE does is support teacher unions. I would LOVE to see everyone of them disbanded.
Lady - you're probably as old (sorry) as I am. Tell me - do YOU remember teacher unions in the 50s? I didn't think so. The department of education began the "idea" of teacher representation. They support it whole-heartedly. Now - when teachers don't like the curriculum that a particular state or local jurisdiction has - they simply threaten to "strike" or stage a "walkout" and it is changed. The days of parents and teachers deciding what will or will not be taught is long over. Welcome to the USSR in public schools. Remove the Department of Education and every Teacher Union - and you will return to public schools that are the envy of the world - not the laughing stock.
I've got to run, but I look forward to knowing where all this education red tape comes from, if you know.
Well, hell, that's easy. Where does ALL "red-tape" come from? Any entity that says "government" on the side of the building. Oh, and (as a layman) I believe that tenure is the worst thing to EVER happen to school.
It is attitudes like that that make me wish you could be forced to teach in a public school for a semester. I think it would change a lot of minds about what teachers do. When I became a teacher I started wearing sensible shoes for the first time, because your ass is NEVER in a chair when you're teaching.Randall, I'm more interested in an answer to my other question. Actually, as a teacher, I understand both sides of the union issue. School districts are famous for taking advantage of the fact that experienced teachers make more $ than newbies and will get away with overloading classes, firing teachers because they are about to cost the district too much--they do it to new teachers who haven't got tenure yet, anyway. As a teacher, I've bought my own supplies, taught without enough text books to go around, all kinds of happy horseshit. And I never even thought of grieving it to the union. Teaching has always been hard. You expect it. However, without a union, things would be worse, and it would affect student achievement eventually.Shows what I know. Where DOES all this red tape and regulatory nonsense come from, then? They give the states money the states can't afford to refuse and it comes with all this garbage. That much I know to be true. So where does it come from?
Lady - you're probably as old (sorry) as I am. Tell me - do YOU remember teacher unions in the 50s? I didn't think so. The department of education began the "idea" of teacher representation. They support it whole-heartedly. Now - when teachers don't like the curriculum that a particular state or local jurisdiction has - they simply threaten to "strike" or stage a "walkout" and it is changed. The days of parents and teachers deciding what will or will not be taught is long over. Welcome to the USSR in public schools. Remove the Department of Education and every Teacher Union - and you will return to public schools that are the envy of the world - not the laughing stock.
I've got to run, but I look forward to knowing where all this education red tape comes from, if you know.
Well, hell, that's easy. Where does ALL "red-tape" come from? Any entity that says "government" on the side of the building. Oh, and (as a layman) I believe that tenure is the worst thing to EVER happen to school.
As a layman, there is about a 99.9% chance that your idea of tenure is incorrect.
As a college graduate, seeing the lazy, unemployable "professors" that sat on their fat asses, I believe I have enough understanding of the term "tenure". It means fat asses that have tenure are nearly impossible to fire for spreading their bullshit to the minds of impressionable children.
Does that apply to you?
Okay. But you had said all the Dept. of Ed did was form the union, which confused me. I thought you meant all the red tape came from somewhere else.Randall, I'm more interested in an answer to my other question. Actually, as a teacher, I understand both sides of the union issue. School districts are famous for taking advantage of the fact that experienced teachers make more $ than newbies and will get away with overloading classes, firing teachers because they are about to cost the district too much--they do it to new teachers who haven't got tenure yet, anyway. As a teacher, I've bought my own supplies, taught without enough text books to go around, all kinds of happy horseshit. And I never even thought of grieving it to the union. Teaching has always been hard. You expect it. However, without a union, things would be worse, and it would affect student achievement eventually.Shows what I know. Where DOES all this red tape and regulatory nonsense come from, then? They give the states money the states can't afford to refuse and it comes with all this garbage. That much I know to be true. So where does it come from?Actually, the only thing the DOE does is support teacher unions. I would LOVE to see everyone of them disbanded.
Lady - you're probably as old (sorry) as I am. Tell me - do YOU remember teacher unions in the 50s? I didn't think so. The department of education began the "idea" of teacher representation. They support it whole-heartedly. Now - when teachers don't like the curriculum that a particular state or local jurisdiction has - they simply threaten to "strike" or stage a "walkout" and it is changed. The days of parents and teachers deciding what will or will not be taught is long over. Welcome to the USSR in public schools. Remove the Department of Education and every Teacher Union - and you will return to public schools that are the envy of the world - not the laughing stock.
I've got to run, but I look forward to knowing where all this education red tape comes from, if you know.
Well, hell, that's easy. Where does ALL "red-tape" come from? Any entity that says "government" on the side of the building. Oh, and (as a layman) I believe that tenure is the worst thing to EVER happen to school.
It is attitudes like that that make me wish you could be forced to teach in a public school for a semester. I think it would change a lot of minds about what teachers do. When I became a teacher I started wearing sensible shoes for the first time, because your ass is NEVER in a chair when you're teaching.Randall, I'm more interested in an answer to my other question. Actually, as a teacher, I understand both sides of the union issue. School districts are famous for taking advantage of the fact that experienced teachers make more $ than newbies and will get away with overloading classes, firing teachers because they are about to cost the district too much--they do it to new teachers who haven't got tenure yet, anyway. As a teacher, I've bought my own supplies, taught without enough text books to go around, all kinds of happy horseshit. And I never even thought of grieving it to the union. Teaching has always been hard. You expect it. However, without a union, things would be worse, and it would affect student achievement eventually.Lady - you're probably as old (sorry) as I am. Tell me - do YOU remember teacher unions in the 50s? I didn't think so. The department of education began the "idea" of teacher representation. They support it whole-heartedly. Now - when teachers don't like the curriculum that a particular state or local jurisdiction has - they simply threaten to "strike" or stage a "walkout" and it is changed. The days of parents and teachers deciding what will or will not be taught is long over. Welcome to the USSR in public schools. Remove the Department of Education and every Teacher Union - and you will return to public schools that are the envy of the world - not the laughing stock.
I've got to run, but I look forward to knowing where all this education red tape comes from, if you know.
Well, hell, that's easy. Where does ALL "red-tape" come from? Any entity that says "government" on the side of the building. Oh, and (as a layman) I believe that tenure is the worst thing to EVER happen to school.
As a layman, there is about a 99.9% chance that your idea of tenure is incorrect.
As a college graduate, seeing the lazy, unemployable "professors" that sat on their fat asses, I believe I have enough understanding of the term "tenure". It means fat asses that have tenure are nearly impossible to fire for spreading their bullshit to the minds of impressionable children.
Does that apply to you?
The fact that you advocate *forcing* people to do anything speaks volumes and rather supports his statement. And he was talking about PROFESSORS. Not elementary school propagandists.It is attitudes like that that make me wish you could be forced to teach in a public school for a semester. I think it would change a lot of minds about what teachers do. When I became a teacher I started wearing sensible shoes for the first time, because your ass is NEVER in a chair when you're teaching.Randall, I'm more interested in an answer to my other question. Actually, as a teacher, I understand both sides of the union issue. School districts are famous for taking advantage of the fact that experienced teachers make more $ than newbies and will get away with overloading classes, firing teachers because they are about to cost the district too much--they do it to new teachers who haven't got tenure yet, anyway. As a teacher, I've bought my own supplies, taught without enough text books to go around, all kinds of happy horseshit. And I never even thought of grieving it to the union. Teaching has always been hard. You expect it. However, without a union, things would be worse, and it would affect student achievement eventually.Lady - you're probably as old (sorry) as I am. Tell me - do YOU remember teacher unions in the 50s? I didn't think so. The department of education began the "idea" of teacher representation. They support it whole-heartedly. Now - when teachers don't like the curriculum that a particular state or local jurisdiction has - they simply threaten to "strike" or stage a "walkout" and it is changed. The days of parents and teachers deciding what will or will not be taught is long over. Welcome to the USSR in public schools. Remove the Department of Education and every Teacher Union - and you will return to public schools that are the envy of the world - not the laughing stock.
I've got to run, but I look forward to knowing where all this education red tape comes from, if you know.
Well, hell, that's easy. Where does ALL "red-tape" come from? Any entity that says "government" on the side of the building. Oh, and (as a layman) I believe that tenure is the worst thing to EVER happen to school.
As a layman, there is about a 99.9% chance that your idea of tenure is incorrect.
As a college graduate, seeing the lazy, unemployable "professors" that sat on their fat asses, I believe I have enough understanding of the term "tenure". It means fat asses that have tenure are nearly impossible to fire for spreading their bullshit to the minds of impressionable children.
Does that apply to you?
It is attitudes like that that make me wish you could be forced to teach in a public school for a semester. I think it would change a lot of minds about what teachers do. When I became a teacher I started wearing sensible shoes for the first time, because your ass is NEVER in a chair when you're teaching.Randall, I'm more interested in an answer to my other question. Actually, as a teacher, I understand both sides of the union issue. School districts are famous for taking advantage of the fact that experienced teachers make more $ than newbies and will get away with overloading classes, firing teachers because they are about to cost the district too much--they do it to new teachers who haven't got tenure yet, anyway. As a teacher, I've bought my own supplies, taught without enough text books to go around, all kinds of happy horseshit. And I never even thought of grieving it to the union. Teaching has always been hard. You expect it. However, without a union, things would be worse, and it would affect student achievement eventually.
I've got to run, but I look forward to knowing where all this education red tape comes from, if you know.
Well, hell, that's easy. Where does ALL "red-tape" come from? Any entity that says "government" on the side of the building. Oh, and (as a layman) I believe that tenure is the worst thing to EVER happen to school.
As a layman, there is about a 99.9% chance that your idea of tenure is incorrect.
As a college graduate, seeing the lazy, unemployable "professors" that sat on their fat asses, I believe I have enough understanding of the term "tenure". It means fat asses that have tenure are nearly impossible to fire for spreading their bullshit to the minds of impressionable children.
Does that apply to you?
Oh bullshit. You became a teacher because you thought it would be easy - summers off, then you found out that it was a real job. Then, the unions came in and you found out that you could rely on them to have your back if the principal didn't "agree" with you. How many "in-service" days you guys get a year now? 30? 45?
Jesus - the kids are at home more now than they've ever been.
The fact that you advocate *forcing* people to do anything speaks volumes and rather supports his statement. And he was talking about PROFESSORS. Not elementary school propagandists.It is attitudes like that that make me wish you could be forced to teach in a public school for a semester. I think it would change a lot of minds about what teachers do. When I became a teacher I started wearing sensible shoes for the first time, because your ass is NEVER in a chair when you're teaching.Randall, I'm more interested in an answer to my other question. Actually, as a teacher, I understand both sides of the union issue. School districts are famous for taking advantage of the fact that experienced teachers make more $ than newbies and will get away with overloading classes, firing teachers because they are about to cost the district too much--they do it to new teachers who haven't got tenure yet, anyway. As a teacher, I've bought my own supplies, taught without enough text books to go around, all kinds of happy horseshit. And I never even thought of grieving it to the union. Teaching has always been hard. You expect it. However, without a union, things would be worse, and it would affect student achievement eventually.
I've got to run, but I look forward to knowing where all this education red tape comes from, if you know.
Well, hell, that's easy. Where does ALL "red-tape" come from? Any entity that says "government" on the side of the building. Oh, and (as a layman) I believe that tenure is the worst thing to EVER happen to school.
As a layman, there is about a 99.9% chance that your idea of tenure is incorrect.
As a college graduate, seeing the lazy, unemployable "professors" that sat on their fat asses, I believe I have enough understanding of the term "tenure". It means fat asses that have tenure are nearly impossible to fire for spreading their bullshit to the minds of impressionable children.
Does that apply to you?
That's funny..to me it sounds like you're the one regurgitating bullshit regarding teachers.It is attitudes like that that make me wish you could be forced to teach in a public school for a semester. I think it would change a lot of minds about what teachers do. When I became a teacher I started wearing sensible shoes for the first time, because your ass is NEVER in a chair when you're teaching.Well, hell, that's easy. Where does ALL "red-tape" come from? Any entity that says "government" on the side of the building. Oh, and (as a layman) I believe that tenure is the worst thing to EVER happen to school.
As a layman, there is about a 99.9% chance that your idea of tenure is incorrect.
As a college graduate, seeing the lazy, unemployable "professors" that sat on their fat asses, I believe I have enough understanding of the term "tenure". It means fat asses that have tenure are nearly impossible to fire for spreading their bullshit to the minds of impressionable children.
Does that apply to you?
Oh bullshit. You became a teacher because you thought it would be easy - summers off, then you found out that it was a real job. Then, the unions came in and you found out that you could rely on them to have your back if the principal didn't "agree" with you. How many "in-service" days you guys get a year now? 30? 45?
Jesus - the kids are at home more now than they've ever been.
You DO realize that those summers off get shorter every year? Last year, it was 7 weeks.
You DO realize that you have unpaid training days in the summer? We have 3 mandatory unpaid professional development days each July.
You DO realize that our "in-service days", or which we get 8, not 30 or 45, are so that we can get grades into the computers so that report cards can go home or meet required training by the state? We also have to attend after school or before school faculty meetings that are unpaid, plus two nights of parent-teacher conferences after teaching all day long.
You DO realize that unless you have tenure, a union will not lift a hand to help you with anything? Striking is against the law for teachers in most states, and unions are even outlawed from collective bargaining in several others.
Oh, you didn't realize that? It is because you have been fed a steady diet of bullshit for your entire lifetime regarding teachers
That's funny..to me it sounds like you're the one regurgitating bullshit regarding teachers.It is attitudes like that that make me wish you could be forced to teach in a public school for a semester. I think it would change a lot of minds about what teachers do. When I became a teacher I started wearing sensible shoes for the first time, because your ass is NEVER in a chair when you're teaching.As a layman, there is about a 99.9% chance that your idea of tenure is incorrect.
As a college graduate, seeing the lazy, unemployable "professors" that sat on their fat asses, I believe I have enough understanding of the term "tenure". It means fat asses that have tenure are nearly impossible to fire for spreading their bullshit to the minds of impressionable children.
Does that apply to you?
Oh bullshit. You became a teacher because you thought it would be easy - summers off, then you found out that it was a real job. Then, the unions came in and you found out that you could rely on them to have your back if the principal didn't "agree" with you. How many "in-service" days you guys get a year now? 30? 45?
Jesus - the kids are at home more now than they've ever been.
You DO realize that those summers off get shorter every year? Last year, it was 7 weeks.
You DO realize that you have unpaid training days in the summer? We have 3 mandatory unpaid professional development days each July.
You DO realize that our "in-service days", or which we get 8, not 30 or 45, are so that we can get grades into the computers so that report cards can go home or meet required training by the state? We also have to attend after school or before school faculty meetings that are unpaid, plus two nights of parent-teacher conferences after teaching all day long.
You DO realize that unless you have tenure, a union will not lift a hand to help you with anything? Striking is against the law for teachers in most states, and unions are even outlawed from collective bargaining in several others.
Oh, you didn't realize that? It is because you have been fed a steady diet of bullshit for your entire lifetime regarding teachers
That's funny..to me it sounds like you're the one regurgitating bullshit regarding teachers.It is attitudes like that that make me wish you could be forced to teach in a public school for a semester. I think it would change a lot of minds about what teachers do. When I became a teacher I started wearing sensible shoes for the first time, because your ass is NEVER in a chair when you're teaching.As a college graduate, seeing the lazy, unemployable "professors" that sat on their fat asses, I believe I have enough understanding of the term "tenure". It means fat asses that have tenure are nearly impossible to fire for spreading their bullshit to the minds of impressionable children.
Does that apply to you?
Oh bullshit. You became a teacher because you thought it would be easy - summers off, then you found out that it was a real job. Then, the unions came in and you found out that you could rely on them to have your back if the principal didn't "agree" with you. How many "in-service" days you guys get a year now? 30? 45?
Jesus - the kids are at home more now than they've ever been.
You DO realize that those summers off get shorter every year? Last year, it was 7 weeks.
You DO realize that you have unpaid training days in the summer? We have 3 mandatory unpaid professional development days each July.
You DO realize that our "in-service days", or which we get 8, not 30 or 45, are so that we can get grades into the computers so that report cards can go home or meet required training by the state? We also have to attend after school or before school faculty meetings that are unpaid, plus two nights of parent-teacher conferences after teaching all day long.
You DO realize that unless you have tenure, a union will not lift a hand to help you with anything? Striking is against the law for teachers in most states, and unions are even outlawed from collective bargaining in several others.
Oh, you didn't realize that? It is because you have been fed a steady diet of bullshit for your entire lifetime regarding teachers
You know how many weeks off I get a year? Two. Total. And I'm fucking glad and grateful for them because most people get a lot less.
That's funny..to me it sounds like you're the one regurgitating bullshit regarding teachers.It is attitudes like that that make me wish you could be forced to teach in a public school for a semester. I think it would change a lot of minds about what teachers do. When I became a teacher I started wearing sensible shoes for the first time, because your ass is NEVER in a chair when you're teaching.As a layman, there is about a 99.9% chance that your idea of tenure is incorrect.
As a college graduate, seeing the lazy, unemployable "professors" that sat on their fat asses, I believe I have enough understanding of the term "tenure". It means fat asses that have tenure are nearly impossible to fire for spreading their bullshit to the minds of impressionable children.
Does that apply to you?
Oh bullshit. You became a teacher because you thought it would be easy - summers off, then you found out that it was a real job. Then, the unions came in and you found out that you could rely on them to have your back if the principal didn't "agree" with you. How many "in-service" days you guys get a year now? 30? 45?
Jesus - the kids are at home more now than they've ever been.
You DO realize that those summers off get shorter every year? Last year, it was 7 weeks.
You DO realize that you have unpaid training days in the summer? We have 3 mandatory unpaid professional development days each July.
You DO realize that our "in-service days", or which we get 8, not 30 or 45, are so that we can get grades into the computers so that report cards can go home or meet required training by the state? We also have to attend after school or before school faculty meetings that are unpaid, plus two nights of parent-teacher conferences after teaching all day long.
You DO realize that unless you have tenure, a union will not lift a hand to help you with anything? Striking is against the law for teachers in most states, and unions are even outlawed from collective bargaining in several others.
Oh, you didn't realize that? It is because you have been fed a steady diet of bullshit for your entire lifetime regarding teachers
That's funny..to me it sounds like you're the one regurgitating bullshit regarding teachers.It is attitudes like that that make me wish you could be forced to teach in a public school for a semester. I think it would change a lot of minds about what teachers do. When I became a teacher I started wearing sensible shoes for the first time, because your ass is NEVER in a chair when you're teaching.As a college graduate, seeing the lazy, unemployable "professors" that sat on their fat asses, I believe I have enough understanding of the term "tenure". It means fat asses that have tenure are nearly impossible to fire for spreading their bullshit to the minds of impressionable children.
Does that apply to you?
Oh bullshit. You became a teacher because you thought it would be easy - summers off, then you found out that it was a real job. Then, the unions came in and you found out that you could rely on them to have your back if the principal didn't "agree" with you. How many "in-service" days you guys get a year now? 30? 45?
Wow....
Jesus - the kids are at home more now than they've ever been.
You DO realize that those summers off get shorter every year? Last year, it was 7 weeks.
You DO realize that you have unpaid training days in the summer? We have 3 mandatory unpaid professional development days each July.
You DO realize that our "in-service days", or which we get 8, not 30 or 45, are so that we can get grades into the computers so that report cards can go home or meet required training by the state? We also have to attend after school or before school faculty meetings that are unpaid, plus two nights of parent-teacher conferences after teaching all day long.
You DO realize that unless you have tenure, a union will not lift a hand to help you with anything? Striking is against the law for teachers in most states, and unions are even outlawed from collective bargaining in several others.
Oh, you didn't realize that? It is because you have been fed a steady diet of bullshit for your entire lifetime regarding teachers
You know how many weeks off I get a year? Two. Total. And I'm fucking glad and grateful for them because most people get a lot less.
