Fellow Conservatives I am entering the battle of my life time

[jillian]

I have worked so hard for so many years to get this blessed land to where she should be. I'm not happy on the day to day as you know over foreign policy regarding the Ukraine and Syria but all in all this government of mine has rocked it.

And I am damn proud of them.

We have a choice up and coming and if all the voters have lost their fucking minds and vote in a radical NDP I will now leave my country.

I am gone.

bye

 

[Iceweasel]

If government didn't exist, the free market would invent it so that it would have subsidies, bailouts, infrastructure and defense for its profit.

Study history people.

...but not from liberal/socialist text books. Corruption in government creates cronyism, not capitalism. You have it ass backwards. In free market capitalism if you have a better product or service you reap the rewards. With government help, big business can stomp on competitors and offer inferior products and services while greasing the rails of the lawmakers.

 

[Redfish]

I have worked so hard for so many years to get this blessed land to where she should be. I'm not happy on the day to day as you know over foreign policy regarding the Ukraine and Syria but all in all this government of mine has rocked it.

And I am damn proud of them.

We have a choice up and coming and if all the voters have lost their fucking minds and vote in a radical NDP I will now leave my country.

I am gone.

bye

Oh, you decided to immigrate to the socialist paradise of north korea? great, say hello to dear leader for us.

 

[BULLDOG]

You don't need the government instituting a single policy in order for bankruptcies to end because of medical bills. If you know of a situation where someone is in that predicament, pay their mortgage for a month by writing a check. You don't like that plan because it involves you having to actually do something with your own money instead of expecting others to be forced to do it.

that lie has been disproven many times, NO ONE files bankruptcy solely due to medical bills, NO ONE

That is a lie. If a person does not have insurance and needs medical care, and can't foot the bill, the hospital/collections can garnish your wages and take 25% of your pay, forcing people to file for bankruptcy, because many people can't afford to give up that much of their income.

nope, you are making that up. they just write off the unpaid bills, they do not go to court and get judgements against sick people who cannot pay.

you are spouting a lib talking point that has no basis in fact.

You are an idiot, aren't you?

nope, I am really quite brilliant. IQ in the 130-140 range, Harvard MBA, successful business career, very comfortable financially in retirement.

I am sorry if my posting of facts upsets you. But you are just going to have to deal with it, because I am not going to stop.

Great. I'm an astronaut , a fireman, and a concert pianist who does Beyonce's hair. and a secret agent with a license to kill on weekends. I don't care what you claim to be. You are wrong.

 

[jillian]

A study that says not one bankruptcy is caused by unexpected medical bills is crap. I personally know of a few.

you are lying. but you are a liberal so thats expected. But if you have a case of a bankruptcy being caused SOLELY by medical bills, please post it. Remember there can be no credit card bills, car payments, mortgage payments, etc in the filing, it must be solely due to medical bills.

LOL.
Flap your silly 'Conservative' yaps all you want, Americans know what a sudden unexpected major medical bill does to the average American in this nation. That is why we will put in a universal single payer system. And you can make all the inane arguements you want, the best you can do is slow the process. Didn't even do that very effectively, we have the ACA, and that will seque into the needed health care system, possibly during President Hillary's two terms.

ask a canadian or a brit how they like national socialized medicine. then ask them why they come to the USA if they have serious medical issues.

you are totally full of shit. No one in the USA was denied medical treatment before ACA. ACA was not a fix for any problem, it was a move for the government to take over 1/3 of our economy. Do you really want to live in a socialist dictatorship? WTF is wrong with you?

Obviously you don't know what you are talking about. An emergency room will sew you up if you are bleeding, or help you through a heart attack, but once the immediate problem is dealt with,you are screwed.

that is a lie. I know for a fact that M D Anderson, Ochsner, Mayo, Cleveland Clinic, and every other major hospital system in the country will take and treat people with no ability to pay.

you are a victim of left wing lies. Even people in this country illegally receive treatment.

do you left wingers ever tell the truth about anything?

you clearly have zero clue about how things work.

rightwingnuts wouldn't know truth if it bit them. it's all that confirmation bias BS

 

[jillian]

You don't need the government instituting a single policy in order for bankruptcies to end because of medical bills. If you know of a situation where someone is in that predicament, pay their mortgage for a month by writing a check. You don't like that plan because it involves you having to actually do something with your own money instead of expecting others to be forced to do it.

that lie has been disproven many times, NO ONE files bankruptcy solely due to medical bills, NO ONE

That is a lie. If a person does not have insurance and needs medical care, and can't foot the bill, the hospital/collections can garnish your wages and take 25% of your pay, forcing people to file for bankruptcy, because many people can't afford to give up that much of their income.

nope, you are making that up. they just write off the unpaid bills, they do not go to court and get judgements against sick people who cannot pay.

you are spouting a lib talking point that has no basis in fact.

You are an idiot, aren't you?

nope, I am really quite brilliant. IQ in the 130-140 range, Harvard MBA, successful business career, very comfortable financially in retirement.

I am sorry if my posting of facts upsets you. But you are just going to have to deal with it, because I am not going to stop.

hahahahaha!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

that lie has been disproven many times, NO ONE files bankruptcy solely due to medical bills, NO ONE

Until you can show proof of that, you're just another lying right winger.

one of your libtard buddies accidentally proved it by posting a study that he thought confirmed your claim, but like you, he failed to read it.

What it showed was that 60% of bankruptcy filings had some medical bills included in the filing, but there was not one case where the filing was solely the result of medical bills.

A study that says not one bankruptcy is caused by unexpected medical bills is crap. I personally know of a few.

you are lying. but you are a liberal so thats expected. But if you have a case of a bankruptcy being caused SOLELY by medical bills, please post it. Remember there can be no credit card bills, car payments, mortgage payments, etc in the filing, it must be solely due to medical bills.

LOL.
Flap your silly 'Conservative' yaps all you want, Americans know what a sudden unexpected major medical bill does to the average American in this nation. That is why we will put in a universal single payer system. And you can make all the inane arguements you want, the best you can do is slow the process. Didn't even do that very effectively, we have the ACA, and that will seque into the needed health care system, possibly during President Hillary's two terms.

Oh sure, Hillary will be able to bypass the Republican Congress and Senate with single payer.

Or maybe........she'll think back and remember the reaction of America to Hillary Care when her husband was President and lost the leadership of Congress for the first time in over 40 years.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I have worked so hard for so many years to get this blessed land to where she should be. I'm not happy on the day to day as you know over foreign policy regarding the Ukraine and Syria but all in all this government of mine has rocked it.

And I am damn proud of them.

We have a choice up and coming and if all the voters have lost their fucking minds and vote in a radical NDP I will now leave my country.

I am gone.

Take Jed Nugent with you, he's prone to flailing his arms and making statements he has no intention of keeping as well.

Watch that Carribean though, storms seem to be a lot stronger lately due to extra energy in the atmosphere. Now where did that energy come from....

I knew that wouldn't take long.

 

[Wildman]

I will now leave my country.

I am gone.

i understand your frustration, reconsider that radical decision, you need to stay and fight along side of me, i will NEVER run as the so called refugees in Syria, have done, i believe if we do not get a good hard line president next election, we ARE going to have to exercise our Second amendment rights...,

read this part of the Declaration of Independence...,

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,

this current government/regime is the most destructive since we kicked the shit out of the "Red Coats" during the period 1775 to 1783..., stick around things just might get very interesting.


At the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, Franklin was queried as he left Independence Hall on the final day of deliberation. a lady asked Dr. Franklin “Well Doctor what have we got, a republic or a monarchy.” Franklin replied, “A republic . . . if you can keep it.”

will you stand with me to help "keep it" ???

 

[Redfish]

that lie has been disproven many times, NO ONE files bankruptcy solely due to medical bills, NO ONE

That is a lie. If a person does not have insurance and needs medical care, and can't foot the bill, the hospital/collections can garnish your wages and take 25% of your pay, forcing people to file for bankruptcy, because many people can't afford to give up that much of their income.

nope, you are making that up. they just write off the unpaid bills, they do not go to court and get judgements against sick people who cannot pay.

you are spouting a lib talking point that has no basis in fact.

You are an idiot, aren't you?

nope, I am really quite brilliant. IQ in the 130-140 range, Harvard MBA, successful business career, very comfortable financially in retirement.

I am sorry if my posting of facts upsets you. But you are just going to have to deal with it, because I am not going to stop.

hahahahaha!

laughing at the truth only verifies your idiocy.

 

[Jroc]

I have worked so hard for so many years to get this blessed land to where she should be. I'm not happy on the day to day as you know over foreign policy regarding the Ukraine and Syria but all in all this government of mine has rocked it.

And I am damn proud of them.

We have a choice up and coming and if all the voters have lost their fucking minds and vote in a radical NDP I will now leave my country.

I am gone.

bye

She lives in Canada, that means she'd be coming here. Read through the thread before you post idiocy please.

 

[Redfish]

you are lying. but you are a liberal so thats expected. But if you have a case of a bankruptcy being caused SOLELY by medical bills, please post it. Remember there can be no credit card bills, car payments, mortgage payments, etc in the filing, it must be solely due to medical bills.

LOL.
Flap your silly 'Conservative' yaps all you want, Americans know what a sudden unexpected major medical bill does to the average American in this nation. That is why we will put in a universal single payer system. And you can make all the inane arguements you want, the best you can do is slow the process. Didn't even do that very effectively, we have the ACA, and that will seque into the needed health care system, possibly during President Hillary's two terms.

ask a canadian or a brit how they like national socialized medicine. then ask them why they come to the USA if they have serious medical issues.

you are totally full of shit. No one in the USA was denied medical treatment before ACA. ACA was not a fix for any problem, it was a move for the government to take over 1/3 of our economy. Do you really want to live in a socialist dictatorship? WTF is wrong with you?

Obviously you don't know what you are talking about. An emergency room will sew you up if you are bleeding, or help you through a heart attack, but once the immediate problem is dealt with,you are screwed.

that is a lie. I know for a fact that M D Anderson, Ochsner, Mayo, Cleveland Clinic, and every other major hospital system in the country will take and treat people with no ability to pay.

you are a victim of left wing lies. Even people in this country illegally receive treatment.

do you left wingers ever tell the truth about anything?

you clearly have zero clue about how things work.

rightwingnuts wouldn't know truth if it bit them. it's all that confirmation bias BS

Have you ever heard of medicaid? Check it out, it pays the medical bills of poor people and uninsured people.

No one was denied medical treatment in the US before obozocare.

I personally know of two young people who had CF. they both got double lung transplants and are doing pretty well, neither had any money or insurance. the hospital did not take them to court or try to garnish their wages.

you libs lie about everything to justify the failures and lies of your kenyan messiah. you are pathetic human beings.

 

[JimH52]

That is a lie. If a person does not have insurance and needs medical care, and can't foot the bill, the hospital/collections can garnish your wages and take 25% of your pay, forcing people to file for bankruptcy, because many people can't afford to give up that much of their income.

nope, you are making that up. they just write off the unpaid bills, they do not go to court and get judgements against sick people who cannot pay.

you are spouting a lib talking point that has no basis in fact.

You are an idiot, aren't you?

nope, I am really quite brilliant. IQ in the 130-140 range, Harvard MBA, successful business career, very comfortable financially in retirement.

I am sorry if my posting of facts upsets you. But you are just going to have to deal with it, because I am not going to stop.

hahahahaha!

laughing at the truth only verifies your idiocy.

I think she is laughing at you.....

 

[Carla_Danger]

It's not free dumbass.

It's saves a helluva lot of money and suffering over your Pub nonplan, functional moron. ER care and bankruptcy is STUPID policy.

You don't need the government instituting a single policy in order for bankruptcies to end because of medical bills. If you know of a situation where someone is in that predicament, pay their mortgage for a month by writing a check. You don't like that plan because it involves you having to actually do something with your own money instead of expecting others to be forced to do it.

that lie has been disproven many times, NO ONE files bankruptcy solely due to medical bills, NO ONE

That is a lie. If a person does not have insurance and needs medical care, and can't foot the bill, the hospital/collections can garnish your wages and take 25% of your pay, forcing people to file for bankruptcy, because many people can't afford to give up that much of their income.

nope, you are making that up. they just write off the unpaid bills, they do not go to court and get judgements against sick people who cannot pay.

you are spouting a lib talking point that has no basis in fact.

Bullshit. Hell, why would anyone pay their bill? Hospitals/collections can garnish wages up to 25%.

You're full of shit.



Court Judgments Against You
For most types of debt such as credit cards and medical bills, creditors must first sue you, obtain a judgment, and get a court order before they can start garnishing your wages. This means that they can’t immediately garnish your wages if you default on your obligations.

If a creditor obtains a court order to garnish your wages, federal law limits the amount that can be taken to 25% of your disposable earnings or the amount by which your weekly disposable income exceeds 30 times the federal minimum wage, whichever is lower. However, keep in mind that your state is allowed to impose even stricter limits.

Who Can Garnish My Wages? | Nolo.com

 

[Carla_Danger]

LOL.
Flap your silly 'Conservative' yaps all you want, Americans know what a sudden unexpected major medical bill does to the average American in this nation. That is why we will put in a universal single payer system. And you can make all the inane arguements you want, the best you can do is slow the process. Didn't even do that very effectively, we have the ACA, and that will seque into the needed health care system, possibly during President Hillary's two terms.

ask a canadian or a brit how they like national socialized medicine. then ask them why they come to the USA if they have serious medical issues.

you are totally full of shit. No one in the USA was denied medical treatment before ACA. ACA was not a fix for any problem, it was a move for the government to take over 1/3 of our economy. Do you really want to live in a socialist dictatorship? WTF is wrong with you?

Obviously you don't know what you are talking about. An emergency room will sew you up if you are bleeding, or help you through a heart attack, but once the immediate problem is dealt with,you are screwed.

that is a lie. I know for a fact that M D Anderson, Ochsner, Mayo, Cleveland Clinic, and every other major hospital system in the country will take and treat people with no ability to pay.

you are a victim of left wing lies. Even people in this country illegally receive treatment.

do you left wingers ever tell the truth about anything?

you clearly have zero clue about how things work.

rightwingnuts wouldn't know truth if it bit them. it's all that confirmation bias BS

Have you ever heard of medicaid? Check it out, it pays the medical bills of poor people and uninsured people.

No one was denied medical treatment in the US before obozocare.

I personally know of two young people who had CF. they both got double lung transplants and are doing pretty well, neither had any money or insurance. the hospital did not take them to court or try to garnish their wages.

you libs lie about everything to justify the failures and lies of your kenyan messiah. you are pathetic human beings.

You have to be dirt poor to qualify. If you have a job, the hospital/collections can come after you and garnish 25% of your pay, forcing many folks into bankruptcy. Idiot.

 

[Redfish]

It's saves a helluva lot of money and suffering over your Pub nonplan, functional moron. ER care and bankruptcy is STUPID policy.

You don't need the government instituting a single policy in order for bankruptcies to end because of medical bills. If you know of a situation where someone is in that predicament, pay their mortgage for a month by writing a check. You don't like that plan because it involves you having to actually do something with your own money instead of expecting others to be forced to do it.

that lie has been disproven many times, NO ONE files bankruptcy solely due to medical bills, NO ONE

That is a lie. If a person does not have insurance and needs medical care, and can't foot the bill, the hospital/collections can garnish your wages and take 25% of your pay, forcing people to file for bankruptcy, because many people can't afford to give up that much of their income.

nope, you are making that up. they just write off the unpaid bills, they do not go to court and get judgements against sick people who cannot pay.

you are spouting a lib talking point that has no basis in fact.

Bullshit. Hell, why would anyone pay their bill? Hospitals/collections can garnish wages up to 25%.

You're full of shit.

very few people pay their bills out of their own pockets. they either have insurance, medicare, or medicaid, or they just don't pay.

Do you understand why you get a bill for $25 for one aspirin and then the insurance pays the hopital $0.25 for it? the hospital writes off $24.75 as a loss for tax purposes, its a game, grow up.

People do not file bankruptcy solely for unpaid medical bills, to claim otherwise is just being ignorant of the facts.

 

[Redfish]

ask a canadian or a brit how they like national socialized medicine. then ask them why they come to the USA if they have serious medical issues.

you are totally full of shit. No one in the USA was denied medical treatment before ACA. ACA was not a fix for any problem, it was a move for the government to take over 1/3 of our economy. Do you really want to live in a socialist dictatorship? WTF is wrong with you?

Obviously you don't know what you are talking about. An emergency room will sew you up if you are bleeding, or help you through a heart attack, but once the immediate problem is dealt with,you are screwed.

that is a lie. I know for a fact that M D Anderson, Ochsner, Mayo, Cleveland Clinic, and every other major hospital system in the country will take and treat people with no ability to pay.

you are a victim of left wing lies. Even people in this country illegally receive treatment.

do you left wingers ever tell the truth about anything?

you clearly have zero clue about how things work.

rightwingnuts wouldn't know truth if it bit them. it's all that confirmation bias BS

Have you ever heard of medicaid? Check it out, it pays the medical bills of poor people and uninsured people.

No one was denied medical treatment in the US before obozocare.

I personally know of two young people who had CF. they both got double lung transplants and are doing pretty well, neither had any money or insurance. the hospital did not take them to court or try to garnish their wages.

you libs lie about everything to justify the failures and lies of your kenyan messiah. you are pathetic human beings.

You have to be dirt poor to qualify. If you have a job, the hospital/collections can come after you and garnish 25% of your pay, forcing many folks into bankruptcy. Idiot.

prove it. prove that anyone ever filed bankruptcy solely citing medical bills as the cause. You do not have to be "dirt poor" to qualify for medicaid or charity help with hospital bills.

you are repeating lib lies. are you a parrot with no operating brain cells?

 

[paulitician]

I do feel for ya. It does look like the world is headed towards Big Government dominance. Absolute control of the People. A New World Order.

 

[BULLDOG]

LOL.
Flap your silly 'Conservative' yaps all you want, Americans know what a sudden unexpected major medical bill does to the average American in this nation. That is why we will put in a universal single payer system. And you can make all the inane arguements you want, the best you can do is slow the process. Didn't even do that very effectively, we have the ACA, and that will seque into the needed health care system, possibly during President Hillary's two terms.

ask a canadian or a brit how they like national socialized medicine. then ask them why they come to the USA if they have serious medical issues.

you are totally full of shit. No one in the USA was denied medical treatment before ACA. ACA was not a fix for any problem, it was a move for the government to take over 1/3 of our economy. Do you really want to live in a socialist dictatorship? WTF is wrong with you?

Obviously you don't know what you are talking about. An emergency room will sew you up if you are bleeding, or help you through a heart attack, but once the immediate problem is dealt with,you are screwed.

that is a lie. I know for a fact that M D Anderson, Ochsner, Mayo, Cleveland Clinic, and every other major hospital system in the country will take and treat people with no ability to pay.

you are a victim of left wing lies. Even people in this country illegally receive treatment.

do you left wingers ever tell the truth about anything?

you clearly have zero clue about how things work.

rightwingnuts wouldn't know truth if it bit them. it's all that confirmation bias BS

Have you ever heard of medicaid? Check it out, it pays the medical bills of poor people and uninsured people.

No one was denied medical treatment in the US before obozocare.

I personally know of two young people who had CF. they both got double lung transplants and are doing pretty well, neither had any money or insurance. the hospital did not take them to court or try to garnish their wages.

you libs lie about everything to justify the failures and lies of your kenyan messiah. you are pathetic human beings.

Before Obamacare, I couldn't get insurance at any price because of a pre existing condition, and I didn't qualify for medicaid. You really should check some things before you repeat what rush told you.
The Coverage Gap: Uninsured Poor Adults in States that Do Not Expand Medicaid – An Update

 

[Carla_Danger]

You don't need the government instituting a single policy in order for bankruptcies to end because of medical bills. If you know of a situation where someone is in that predicament, pay their mortgage for a month by writing a check. You don't like that plan because it involves you having to actually do something with your own money instead of expecting others to be forced to do it.

that lie has been disproven many times, NO ONE files bankruptcy solely due to medical bills, NO ONE

That is a lie. If a person does not have insurance and needs medical care, and can't foot the bill, the hospital/collections can garnish your wages and take 25% of your pay, forcing people to file for bankruptcy, because many people can't afford to give up that much of their income.

nope, you are making that up. they just write off the unpaid bills, they do not go to court and get judgements against sick people who cannot pay.

you are spouting a lib talking point that has no basis in fact.

Bullshit. Hell, why would anyone pay their bill? Hospitals/collections can garnish wages up to 25%.

You're full of shit.

very few people pay their bills out of their own pockets. they either have insurance, medicare, or medicaid, or they just don't pay.

Do you understand why you get a bill for $25 for one aspirin and then the insurance pays the hopital $0.25 for it? the hospital writes off $24.75 as a loss for tax purposes, its a game, grow up.

People do not file bankruptcy solely for unpaid medical bills, to claim otherwise is just being ignorant of the facts.

You are an idiot. Not everyone has insurance. For example, if a person is between jobs, has an emergency, and winds up at the emergency room, once they are employed again, the hospital can get a court order against you, and garnish your wages.

It's not rocket science, and you can simply google what I'm saying.