FEMA Deceives Nation About Twin Towers Core

[Fizz]

this is a good reason you never answer questions, you pretend to not know what they are.

null post

Nope, reason doesn't work like that. When I write "null post" in response to your posts, it is because you have offered no evidence to reasonably counter evidence already presented. When I write, "you pretend to not know what they are", I am referring to nearly the entire thread as evidence and simply provide another perspective to what is well substantiated.

For example, if I ask you to recognize enablement of the exact deception I allege when guiliani took the plans from the NYC offices while the courts protect their hiding, you ignore the fact or pretend it is okay to misrepresent the facts, or not know what they mean.

another null post
still no evidence of a concrete core.

 

[Christophera]

null post

Nope, reason doesn't work like that. When I write "null post" in response to your posts, it is because you have offered no evidence to reasonably counter evidence already presented. When I write, "you pretend to not know what they are", I am referring to nearly the entire thread as evidence and simply provide another perspective to what is well substantiated.

For example, if I ask you to recognize enablement of the exact deception I allege when guiliani took the plans from the NYC offices while the courts protect their hiding, you ignore the fact or pretend it is okay to misrepresent the facts, or not know what they mean.

another null post

Correct, you have just completely failed to substantiate that there were steel core columns inthe core area, meaning that the exact opposite is true,

still no evidence of a concrete core.

WRONG, the only evidence that exists is for a concrete core. and all of these posts show concrete surrounding the core.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1713254-post2044.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1714936-post2047.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1711665-post2035.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1704588-post2011.htm
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1705428-post2014.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1707925-post2020.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1709910-post2023.html
You never did show you could name the structural elements shown in the construction misrepresentations of the core.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1702116-post1996.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1700055-post1983.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1699160-post1972.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1697424-post1958.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1695455-post1938.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1695955-post1942.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1694352-post1929.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1693859-post1916.html

But you don't use evidence, you support the secret methods of mass murder and you have no concern for the human costs of that secrecy,

You care not for the US Constitution and refuse to recognize violations of law that enable the FEMA deception.

You have never posted an image from 9-11 showing steel core columns in the core area.

 

[Fizz]

you are completely crazy

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB6xdCS9NJU]YouTube - 9/11: Why They Fell pt 2[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqDTEZIdg7g&feature=PlayList&p=A6382FD1025BACE9&index=62]YouTube - WTC 1&2 UNIQUE DESIGN.[/ame]

"For a combination of historical, cultural and economic reasons, tall, concrete-core buildings dedicated to office use are unusual in New York, where builders prefer the wallboard-enclosed cores with steel frames that Mr. Robertson pioneered in the trade center."
New York Timeshere


"Engineers are still debating whether the Twin Towers' unique structure should be credited for surviving the initial crashes, or blamed for collapsing in the subsequent fires, or both. But the point is that it was unique, utilizing closely spaced columns connected to a steel core by relatively lightweight floor trusses. "
Newsweek. Newsweek.com


"Each of the towers, more than 200 ft. wide on each side, contained a central steel core surrounded by open office space. Eighteen-inch steel tubes ran vertically along the outside, providing much of the support for the building"
Time Magazine.TIME.com


"The twin towers were the first supertall buildings designed without any masonry. Worried that the intense air pressure created by the building's high speed elevators might buckle conventional shafts, engineers designed a solution using a drywall system fixed to the reinforced steel core. "
engineering.comENGINEERING.com


"Like many high-rises built in the 1960s, the Twin Towers were constructed with their weight distributed between a hollow steel core (containing services like elevators) and steel columns around the perimeter, maximizing open floor space. Many believe the older high-rise design, in which steel columns are often encased in concrete, is more fire resistant.

“A lot of people have told me, ‘You should have used more concrete in the structure,’” said Robertson. However, his chart plotting the strength of steel vs. concrete at various temperatures showed that at the incendiary levels that raged in the towers, the two materials become similarly weak."
Berkeley 04.17.2002 - World Trade Center remembered


"Yamasaki has switched from concrete, his favorite medium, to steel because of the sheer height of the towers, and instead of having the weight of the structure carried by the frame and the elevator core, the great steel columns of the exterior walls will support it."
Time Magazine article from 1964!! Art: Onward & Upward - TIME

 

[Christophera]

Exactly as the perpetrators of mass murder would want agents to assert.



SPAM7(?)

Agents cannot stop, which is logical for the perpetrators trying to enforce the "big lie" to direct agents to do.

SPAM6
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1914220-post3527.html


FIZZ SPAM
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1860963-post3290.html


BERKLEY ERRORS
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1904734-post3480.html


TIME MAGAZINE ERRORS
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1904673-post3478.html


SPAM 4-POSTING UNKNOWN STRUCTURE CALLING IT WTC TWIN
http://www.usmessageboard.com/18978...//www.usmessageboard.com/conspiracy-theories/

 

[DiveCon]

exactly as the perpetrators of mass murder would want agents to assert.



spam7(?)

agents cannot stop, which is logical for the perpetrators trying to enforce the "big lie" to direct agents to do.

Spam6
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1914220-post3527.html


fizz spam
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1860963-post3290.html


berkley errors
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1904734-post3480.html


time magazine errors
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1904673-post3478.html


spam 4-posting unknown structure calling it wtc twin
http://www.usmessageboard.com/18978...//www.usmessageboard.com/conspiracy-theories/

idiot^^^^^

 

[Christophera]

The steel reinforced cast concrete tubular core of WTC 2 standing at 1/2- height on 9-11.

Stop supporting secret methods of mass murder.




FEMA deception

 

[Fizz]

your "concrete" smoke is clearly a steel core when viewed from the other side.

fact vs. fiction

hundreds... maybe thousands of pictures of a steel core. chris can not produce even ONE picture of his concrete core.

the perpetrators of this concrete core hoax are proven criminals sentenced to jail time for not paying child support for 15 years.

you are completely fucking insane

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB6xdCS9NJU]YouTube - 9/11: Why They Fell pt 2[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqDTEZIdg7g&feature=PlayList&p=A6382FD1025BACE9&index=62]YouTube - WTC 1&2 UNIQUE DESIGN.[/ame]

"For a combination of historical, cultural and economic reasons, tall, concrete-core buildings dedicated to office use are unusual in New York, where builders prefer the wallboard-enclosed cores with steel frames that Mr. Robertson pioneered in the trade center."
New York Timeshere


"Engineers are still debating whether the Twin Towers' unique structure should be credited for surviving the initial crashes, or blamed for collapsing in the subsequent fires, or both. But the point is that it was unique, utilizing closely spaced columns connected to a steel core by relatively lightweight floor trusses. "
Newsweek. Newsweek.com


"Each of the towers, more than 200 ft. wide on each side, contained a central steel core surrounded by open office space. Eighteen-inch steel tubes ran vertically along the outside, providing much of the support for the building"
Time Magazine.TIME.com


"The twin towers were the first supertall buildings designed without any masonry. Worried that the intense air pressure created by the building's high speed elevators might buckle conventional shafts, engineers designed a solution using a drywall system fixed to the reinforced steel core. "
engineering.comENGINEERING.com


"Like many high-rises built in the 1960s, the Twin Towers were constructed with their weight distributed between a hollow steel core (containing services like elevators) and steel columns around the perimeter, maximizing open floor space. Many believe the older high-rise design, in which steel columns are often encased in concrete, is more fire resistant.

“A lot of people have told me, ‘You should have used more concrete in the structure,’” said Robertson. However, his chart plotting the strength of steel vs. concrete at various temperatures showed that at the incendiary levels that raged in the towers, the two materials become similarly weak."
Berkeley 04.17.2002 - World Trade Center remembered


"Yamasaki has switched from concrete, his favorite medium, to steel because of the sheer height of the towers, and instead of having the weight of the structure carried by the frame and the elevator core, the great steel columns of the exterior walls will support it."
Time Magazine article from 1964!! Art: Onward & Upward - TIME

 

[Christophera]

fizz did SPAM8. Agent fizzrodd, your images are from stannrodds photobucket account (?) cannot come up with evidence, but sure can sling spam.

Hopefully agent fizz will come along and quote you removing the misrepresentations of elevator guide rail support steel, just to "save server space".

BTW, the image of the concrete core looking eastwards are seconds after yours of the east side of the tower where the frame surrounding the concrete core is still standing. The spire, but seen from the north looking at the north end of the west concrete shear wall. The north wall is gone to the NW corner where the spire is.

Clearly, Robertson is verified by Oxford, verifying Domel verified by the image of WTC 2 core, verifying the top of WTC 2 core falling onto WTC 3, the WTC 1 rebar, just after the WTC 1 west core wall is seen in an end view, then, the WTC 1 east shear wall toppling, consistent with interior box columns silhouetted on WTC 1 north core wall, consistent with ground zero showing the WTC 1 north concrete core base wall, 12 foot thick, all supported as clarification of the many confused statements that do mention concrete in the core including the latest revised NIST contracted analysis of free fall by Bazant et. al 6/21/2007, which actually provides an equivalent amount of high explosives needed to create the rate of fall they are attempting to justify with physics. It doesn't work, but at least they won't go down in history as totally supporting the deceptions.

I mean if you just compare the one image alone, from all of those linked, "interior box columns silhouetted on WTC 1 north core wall" one can easily see by comparing to the 3rd floor core plan that is a digitally altered obsolete preliminary, that the the plans of steel core columns do not match what is fround at ground zero.

 

[DiveCon]

fizz did SPAM8. Agent fizzrodd, your images are from stannrodds photobucket account (?) cannot come up with evidence, but sure can sling spam.

Hopefully agent fizz will come along and quote you removing the misrepresentations of elevator guide rail support steel, just to "save server space".

BTW, the image of the concrete core looking eastwards are seconds after yours of the east side of the tower where the frame surrounding the concrete core is still standing. The spire, but seen from the north looking at the north end of the west concrete shear wall. The north wall is gone to the NW corner where the spire is.

Clearly, Robertson is verified by Oxford, verifying Domel verified by the image of WTC 2 core, verifying the top of WTC 2 core falling onto WTC 3, the WTC 1 rebar, just after the WTC 1 west core wall is seen in an end view, then, the WTC 1 east shear wall toppling, consistent with interior box columns silhouetted on WTC 1 north core wall, consistent with ground zero showing the WTC 1 north concrete core base wall, 12 foot thick, all supported as clarification of the many confused statements that do mention concrete in the core including the latest revised NIST contracted analysis of free fall by Bazant et. al 6/21/2007, which actually provides an equivalent amount of high explosives needed to create the rate of fall they are attempting to justify with physics. It doesn't work, but at least they won't go down in history as totally supporting the deceptions.

I mean if you just compare the one image alone, from all of those linked, "interior box columns silhouetted on WTC 1 north core wall" one can easily see by comparing to the 3rd floor core plan that is a digitally altered obsolete preliminary, that the the plans of steel core columns do not match what is fround at ground zero.

wow, considering how many times you link to YOUR OWN PERSONAL webpage, you have some nerve to claim ANYONE is spamming other than you
you fucking moronic idiot

 

[Fizz]

fizz did SPAM8. Agent fizzrodd, your images are from stannrodds photobucket account (?) cannot come up with evidence, but sure can sling spam.

Hopefully agent fizz will come along and quote you removing the misrepresentations of elevator guide rail support steel, just to "save server space".

BTW, the image of the concrete core looking eastwards are seconds after yours of the east side of the tower where the frame surrounding the concrete core is still standing. The spire, but seen from the north looking at the north end of the west concrete shear wall. The north wall is gone to the NW corner where the spire is.

Clearly, Robertson is verified by Oxford, verifying Domel verified by the image of WTC 2 core, verifying the top of WTC 2 core falling onto WTC 3, the WTC 1 rebar, just after the WTC 1 west core wall is seen in an end view, then, the WTC 1 east shear wall toppling, consistent with interior box columns silhouetted on WTC 1 north core wall, consistent with ground zero showing the WTC 1 north concrete core base wall, 12 foot thick, all supported as clarification of the many confused statements that do mention concrete in the core including the latest revised NIST contracted analysis of free fall by Bazant et. al 6/21/2007, which actually provides an equivalent amount of high explosives needed to create the rate of fall they are attempting to justify with physics. It doesn't work, but at least they won't go down in history as totally supporting the deceptions.

I mean if you just compare the one image alone, from all of those linked, "interior box columns silhouetted on WTC 1 north core wall" one can easily see by comparing to the 3rd floor core plan that is a digitally altered obsolete preliminary, that the the plans of steel core columns do not match what is fround at ground zero.

you can not prove ANY of your claims. have you ever been right in your entire life? maybe the last time you were right was so long ago that you forget what it feels like to not be wrong.

i found stanrods pictures by searching google images. that doesnt mean i am stanrod, you fucking paranoid lunatic. i am not. it means i found WTC steel core images that somebody else collected and he obviously proved you wrong also.

so you are saying that my picture of the steel core that you claim in concrete was taken seconds later of a falling image and somehow the steel MAGICALLY fell away and left the concrete only? meanwhile its all falling but somehow the steel magically accelerated at phenomenal speed to get out of the picture.

sorry. its another delusion by you that doesnt make any sense at all. your "concrete core" picture has been proven to be made of steel.

YOU GOT NOTHING AGAIN!!

 

[Fizz]

wow, considering how many times you link to YOUR OWN PERSONAL webpage, you have some nerve to claim ANYONE is spamming other than you
you fucking moronic idiot

exactly. i got nothing to sell. if anyone is spamming its the deadbeat, child abandoning criminal that is trying to sell his fraud of a book.

 

[Christophera]

fizz did SPAM8. Agent fizzrodd, your images are from stannrodds photobucket account (?) cannot come up with evidence, but sure can sling spam.

Hopefully agent fizz will come along and quote you removing the misrepresentations of elevator guide rail support steel, just to "save server space".

BTW, the image of the concrete core looking eastwards are seconds after yours of the east side of the tower where the frame surrounding the concrete core is still standing. The spire, but seen from the north looking at the north end of the west concrete shear wall. The north wall is gone to the NW corner where the spire is.

Clearly, Robertson is verified by Oxford, verifying Domel verified by the image of WTC 2 core, verifying the top of WTC 2 core falling onto WTC 3, the WTC 1 rebar, just after the WTC 1 west core wall is seen in an end view, then, the WTC 1 east shear wall toppling, consistent with interior box columns silhouetted on WTC 1 north core wall, consistent with ground zero showing the WTC 1 north concrete core base wall, 12 foot thick, all supported as clarification of the many confused statements that do mention concrete in the core including the latest revised NIST contracted analysis of free fall by Bazant et. al 6/21/2007, which actually provides an equivalent amount of high explosives needed to create the rate of fall they are attempting to justify with physics. It doesn't work, but at least they won't go down in history as totally supporting the deceptions.

I mean if you just compare the one image alone, from all of those linked, "interior box columns silhouetted on WTC 1 north core wall" one can easily see by comparing to the 3rd floor core plan that is a digitally altered obsolete preliminary, that the the plans of steel core columns do not match what is fround at ground zero.

wow, considering how many times you link to YOUR OWN PERSONAL webpage, you have some nerve to claim ANYONE is spamming other than you
you fucking moronic idiot

The perpetrators logically would have agents peddling misrepresentations while attempting to label real evidence spam. The verifying aspects of evidence and statements of independent authority I produce slam your spam accusation and expose you.

 

[Christophera]

wow, considering how many times you link to YOUR OWN PERSONAL webpage, you have some nerve to claim ANYONE is spamming other than you
you fucking moronic idiot

exactly. i got nothing to sell. if anyone is spamming its the deadbeat, child abandoning criminal that is trying to sell his fraud of a book.

Of course if you refuse to recognize violations of law keeping the methods of mass murder secret,
there is no chance you will recognize the effort to destroy the American family by unjust, unconstitutional family law courts.

WELFARE FRAUD CREATES CHILD SUPPORT
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1802693-post2845.html

CITIZENS OF 9th CIRCUIT DEPRIVED OF DUE PROCESS, PETITION FOR ENBANC HEARING
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1802123-post2829.html

MOTION QUASH CONTEMPT, ESTOPPLE
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1802288-post2836.html

STOP PAYMENT ON CHECK
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1802771-post742.html

SUPREME COURT TRICKERY
http://www.usmessageboard.com/1826942-post3076.html

your motion was denied.

No, the motion was never heard.

so you still owe $30,000 of back child support payments.

you disgust me.

Of course justice means nothing to you or the perpetrators so you would be told to say that.

The fact is the childrens mothers family is wealthy and she conducted welfare fraud to retaliate because I wouldn't allow her to drink, smoke and do drugs in the home.

And you've not acknowledged the violation of law that deprived the familes of a proper due process analysis of the cause of death when guliani took the towers plans and hid them while the courts protect their hiding in a conspiracy to decieve and destroy the US Constitution.

My childrens future, and the future of all children depend on our Constitution,

But you don't care about that.

 

[DiveCon]

fizz did SPAM8. Agent fizzrodd, your images are from stannrodds photobucket account (?) cannot come up with evidence, but sure can sling spam.

Hopefully agent fizz will come along and quote you removing the misrepresentations of elevator guide rail support steel, just to "save server space".

BTW, the image of the concrete core looking eastwards are seconds after yours of the east side of the tower where the frame surrounding the concrete core is still standing. The spire, but seen from the north looking at the north end of the west concrete shear wall. The north wall is gone to the NW corner where the spire is.

Clearly, Robertson is verified by Oxford, verifying Domel verified by the image of WTC 2 core, verifying the top of WTC 2 core falling onto WTC 3, the WTC 1 rebar, just after the WTC 1 west core wall is seen in an end view, then, the WTC 1 east shear wall toppling, consistent with interior box columns silhouetted on WTC 1 north core wall, consistent with ground zero showing the WTC 1 north concrete core base wall, 12 foot thick, all supported as clarification of the many confused statements that do mention concrete in the core including the latest revised NIST contracted analysis of free fall by Bazant et. al 6/21/2007, which actually provides an equivalent amount of high explosives needed to create the rate of fall they are attempting to justify with physics. It doesn't work, but at least they won't go down in history as totally supporting the deceptions.

I mean if you just compare the one image alone, from all of those linked, "interior box columns silhouetted on WTC 1 north core wall" one can easily see by comparing to the 3rd floor core plan that is a digitally altered obsolete preliminary, that the the plans of steel core columns do not match what is fround at ground zero.

wow, considering how many times you link to YOUR OWN PERSONAL webpage, you have some nerve to claim ANYONE is spamming other than you
you fucking moronic idiot

The perpetrators logically would have agents peddling misrepresentations while attempting to label real evidence spam. The verifying aspects of evidence and statements of independent authority I produce slam your spam accusation and expose you.

WOW, the irony in that post is astounding

 

[elvis]

wow, considering how many times you link to YOUR OWN PERSONAL webpage, you have some nerve to claim ANYONE is spamming other than you
you fucking moronic idiot

The perpetrators logically would have agents peddling misrepresentations while attempting to label real evidence spam. The verifying aspects of evidence and statements of independent authority I produce slam your spam accusation and expose you.

WOW, the irony in that post is astounding

Jose only has one star now. christopher needs at least one more.

 

[Christophera]

Evidence rules, and the FEMA deception is OVER.

 

[Fizz]

The perpetrators logically would have agents peddling misrepresentations while attempting to label real evidence spam. The verifying aspects of evidence and statements of independent authority I produce slam your spam accusation and expose you.

the perpetrators are 19 muslim hijackers.

you are a complete fucking moron that is so paranoid you label everyone that disagrees with you a government agent.

your concrete core hoax has been exposed. your criminal past has been exposed. your lack of any evidence at all has been exposed.

you are insane.

you are a fraud.

 

[Gamolon]

Evidence of columns inside the supposed concrete core.

And look! No butt plates in ANY of them. They were welded columns.

 

[Christophera]

Evidence of columns inside the supposed concrete core.

And look! No butt plates in ANY of them. They were welded columns.

Showing images of where the concrete was is deceptive. Here is the concrete, empty core area on the left.

 

[Gamolon]

Evidence of columns inside the supposed concrete core.

And look! No butt plates in ANY of them. They were welded columns.

Showing images of where the concrete was is deceptive. Here is the concrete, empty core area on the left.

Sorry Chris. You lose. That's exactly where the concrete core was. No deception. You've admitted it.

So. There were columns inside where your concrete core supposedly was. With no buttplates showing.

You have been proven wrong yet again.