FEMA Deceives Nation About Twin Towers Core

[Fizz]

You are trying to say the elevators don't fit. You need to state your source for elevator dimensions.

no jackass. YOU claim there was a concrete core. show us how the fucking elevators fit inside. YOU CAN'T!!!

 

[Christophera]

gumout apparently cannot defend his own position and must have the miscreant fuz stand for that position with text nonsense.

You MUST provide your source of elevator dimension . . . period.

Particularly since you cannot document from 9-11 the core you and FEMA say existed.

 

[Gamolon]

gumout apparently cannot defend his own position and must have the miscreant fuz stand for that position with text nonsense.

You MUST provide your source of elevator dimension . . . period.

Particularly since you cannot document from 9-11 the core you and FEMA say existed.

I did. Twice.

The fact still remains that your claims and bullshit dimension make the express elevator 5' x6'. Totally unacceptable for 50 people to fit in.

Yes or no Chris?

 

[Fizz]

gumout apparently cannot defend his own position and must have the miscreant fuz stand for that position with text nonsense.

You MUST provide your source of elevator dimension . . . period.

Particularly since you cannot document from 9-11 the core you and FEMA say existed.

what part of this dont you understand? the towers had a steel core. any dimensions provided to you will be based on that because thats what was actually there.

if YOU want to claim the towers had a concrete core then YOU need to provide the dimensions onhow to fit all the elevators inside. YOU CAN'T!!

are you saying that the documentary you say you saw (but is mysteriously missing) went into detail about how thick the rebar was but didnt even explain anything aboyut the elevators?!!

 

[Gamolon]

gumout apparently cannot defend his own position and must have the miscreant fuz stand for that position with text nonsense.

You MUST provide your source of elevator dimension . . . period.

Particularly since you cannot document from 9-11 the core you and FEMA say existed.

You see Chris.

You have forced your own hand. All of your dimensions and so-called knowledge of the towers and how they were constructed has painted you into a corner. You have now defined the express elevators as being about 5' x 6' in size. This is ridiculous for an elevator designed to carry 50 people/10,000 lbs.

Here Chris. Here is another example of a 10,000 lb. capacity elevator. See what dimensions these are.
http://www.leistritzcorp.com/pdf/freight_elevator.pdf

 

[DiveCon]

gumout apparently cannot defend his own position and must have the miscreant fuz stand for that position with text nonsense.

You MUST provide your source of elevator dimension . . . period.

Particularly since you cannot document from 9-11 the core you and FEMA say existed.

You see Chris.

You have forced your own hand. All of your dimensions and so-called knowledge of the towers and how they were constructed has painted you into a corner. You have now defined the express elevators as being about 5' x 6' in size. This is ridiculous for an elevator designed to carry 50 people/10,000 lbs.

Here Chris. Here is another example of a 10,000 lb. capacity elevator. See what dimensions these are.
http://www.leistritzcorp.com/pdf/freight_elevator.pdf

facts dont mean anything to this dipshit
'he is so delusional he will ignore them

 

[Christophera]

I will show people where your dimensions come from if you will not. The dimensions come fron the plans that also have anomalies such as these,

Which can only be added AFTER the blueprints were scanned. Such things are NOT "artifacts" as may occasionally be created from a scan. they are sized and positioned in the cells of the revision tables which were added to make the obsolete plans by Leslie Robertson, appear as final drawings.

The free handed title shows they plans are not the final drawings for 2 of the tallest towers in the world.

The only core that can be proven with independently verified evidence is the concrete core. The west wall of WTC 1 left of the interior box column called "the spire". Left of the wall, after the north wall has fallen, is the empty core area.

 

[DiveCon]

<delusional bullshit removed>

seek out professional help, before you become a danger to others

 

[Fizz]

I will show people where your dimensions come from if you will not. The dimensions come fron the plans that also have anomalies such as these,

so?

did you figure out how to fit all those elevators inside your concrete core yet?

 

[Gamolon]

I will show people where your dimensions come from if you will not. The dimensions come fron the plans that also have anomalies such as these,

You are truly a jackass. I posted the link TWICE and told you a third time that I had done so. They are corroborated right down to the motor type/model.

Here is the link for the third time. I'll make it bold so you can see it.
http://911research.com/cache/wtc/arch/wtc_elevator_renovation.pdf

 

[Fizz]

here. i'll throw you a bone. the express elevators had a platform area of 7.8 sq meters. dont forget you need to have doors on BOTH ENDS!!
Elevator World Magazine -- May 1998
(Copyright© 1998 Elevator World, Inc. – Posted 4/27/98 )

so there's some dimensions for you not from the the building plans you so despise.

 

[Gamolon]

Chris,

Now YOU need to provide us with the dimensions for your 5' x 6' express elevators that could carry 50 people and were rated for 10,000 lbs.

Let's see a link like you demanded of us.

 

[Gamolon]

here. i'll throw you a bone. the express elevators had a platform area of 7.8 sq meters. dont forget you need to have doors on BOTH ENDS!!
Elevator World Magazine -- May 1998
(Copyright© 1998 Elevator World, Inc. – Posted 4/27/98 )

so there's some dimensions for you not from the the building plans you so despise.

Here's a photo of one of the express elevators.

It shows the front and rear doors.

 

[Gamolon]

Here's the bottom of one of the express elevator:

Doesn't look 5' x 6' to me.



Chris, you also said at the Break for News forum that the wall in that photo was the core wall. So that again confirms you putting the core wall butted against the express elevators.

So how does this work again? What is the location order of what you claim existed?

Perimeter core columns, 12' concrete core wall, bank of 12, 13' long express elevators, which opened into the 16' wide skylobby hallway show in the photo below (express elevator door access on the right)?

You've got a MAJOR problem now Chris. Your theory is coming to it's end.

Also, here's how we can verify that the hallway is 16' wide. See all the way down the hallway to the perimeter columns? Those column are 3'-4" apart. I count 5 spaces at 3'-4" which comes out to 16'-8". Come on Chris. How does this all fit together. You're getting your ass handed to you.

 

[Fizz]

"If the elevators don't fit, Christophera is full of shit!"

 

[Gamolon]

"If the elevators don't fit, Christophera is full of shit!"

 

[Christophera]

If posters insist they elevators do not fit but refuse to identify their sources for dimensions used, then they are agents seeking to conceal the methods of mass murder and treason.

Done deal.

The Twin Towers had a concrete core.

Robertson is verified by Oxford, verifying Domel who describes a concrete core verified by the image of WTC 2 core, verifying the top of WTC 2 core falling onto WTC 3, the WTC 1 rebar, just after the WTC 1 west core wall is seen in an end view, then, the WTC 1 east shear wall toppling, consistent with interior box columns silhouetted on WTC 1 north core wall, consistent with ground zero showing the WTC 1 north concrete core base wall, 12 foot thick, all supported as clarification of the many confused statements that do mention concrete in the core including the latest revised NIST contracted analysis of free fall by Bazant et. al 6/21/2007, which actually provides an equivalent amount of high explosives needed to create the rate of fall they are attempting to justify with physics. It doesn't work, but at least they won't go down in history as totally supporting the deceptions.

 

[slackjawed]

If posters insist they elevators do not fit but refuse to identify their sources for dimensions used, then they are agents seeking to conceal the methods of mass murder and treason.

Done deal.

The Twin Towers had a concrete core.

Robertson is verified by Oxford, verifying Domel who describes a concrete core verified by the image of WTC 2 core, verifying the top of WTC 2 core falling onto WTC 3, the WTC 1 rebar, just after the WTC 1 west core wall is seen in an end view, then, the WTC 1 east shear wall toppling, consistent with interior box columns silhouetted on WTC 1 north core wall, consistent with ground zero showing the WTC 1 north concrete core base wall, 12 foot thick, all supported as clarification of the many confused statements that do mention concrete in the core including the latest revised NIST contracted analysis of free fall by Bazant et. al 6/21/2007, which actually provides an equivalent amount of high explosives needed to create the rate of fall they are attempting to justify with physics. It doesn't work, but at least they won't go down in history as totally supporting the deceptions.

Since you contend that something that does not match the official version of events is what happened, it is your place to present the evidence.

Your attempt for the past several years based on your personal fantasies and delusions are not evidence of an attempt to mislead the citizens. It is evidence of your attempt to deceive the citizenry. Further evidence that was recently posted here by myself proves beyond a doubt that you continue to deceive the public FOR PROFIT!


Agent Chri$$y has proven nothing about his delusions of a concrete core or an attempt to deceive the public by FEMA.
Agent Chri$$y continues to prove himself to be engaging in deception for profit. The fact that he claims he makes no profit proves only that he has the intelligence of a gnat.

If you have evidence agent chri$$y, present it, present it now. Stop the delusional bullshit and present your case. After all these years, you still have not done so.

That speaks volumes about agent chri$$y..........

 

[Christophera]

If you cannot show the official structure in the core on 9-11,

you have no standing for anything.

Robertson is verified by Oxford, verifying Domel who describes a concrete core verified by the image of WTC 2 core, verifying the top of WTC 2 core falling onto WTC 3, the WTC 1 rebar, just after the WTC 1 west core wall is seen in an end view, then, the WTC 1 east shear wall toppling, consistent with interior box columns silhouetted on WTC 1 north core wall, consistent with ground zero showing the WTC 1 north concrete core base wall, 12 foot thick, all supported as clarification of the many confused statements that do mention concrete in the core including the latest revised NIST contracted analysis of free fall by Bazant et. al 6/21/2007, which actually provides an equivalent amount of high explosives needed to create the rate of fall they are attempting to justify with physics. It doesn't work, but at least they won't go down in history as totally supporting the deceptions.

 

[DiveCon]

If you cannot show the official structure in the core on 9-11,


.

you are a delusional fucking LIAR