Feminism: Just Another Fad

[PoliticalChic]

Remember the feminist motto, "women need a man like a fish needs a bicycle"?
Well, bicycles are back! And make a fine couple with fish!
And I'm enthralled!

How about this: "The nuclear family must be destroyed... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process." -- Linda Gordon
That revolutionary feminism.....dead. Lost the revolution!

And Simone de Beauvoir in an interview with Betty Friedan said “No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.”
“Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Saturday Review, June 14, 1975, p. 18.

There couldn't be a more definitive defeat that that suffered by the numbskulls quoted above.




Here comes the proof:

1. " When Kelly Makino was a little girl, she loved to go orienteering—to explore the wilderness near her rural Pennsylvania home... She put herself through college at Georgia State working in bars and slinging burgers, planning that with her degree in social work, ... moving up the nonprofit ladder to finally “run a United Way chapter or be the CEO.” Kelly graduated from college magna cum laude and got an M.S.W. from Penn, again with honors, receiving an award for her negotiating skills.

2. Now Kelly is 33, and if dreams were winds, you might say that hers have shifted. She believes that every household needs one primary caretaker, that women are, broadly speaking, better at that job than men, and that no amount of professional success could possibly console her if she felt her two young children—¬Connor, 5, and Lillie, 4—were not being looked after the right way. The maternal instinct is a real thing, Kelly argues: Girls play with dolls from childhood, so “women are raised from the get-go to raise children successfully.

a. ... Kelly’s priorities are nothing if not retrograde. She has given herself over entirely to the care and feeding of her family.... Her sacrifice of a salary tightened the Makinos’ upper-middle-class budget, but the subversion of her personal drive pays them back in ways Kelly believes are priceless; she is now able to be there for her kids no matter what, cooking healthy meals, taking them hiking and to museums, helping patiently with homework, and devoting herself to teaching the life lessons—





3. Kelly calls herself “a flaming liberal” and a feminist, too. “I want my daughter to be able to do anything she wants,” she says. “But I also want to say, ‘Have a career that you can walk away from at the drop of a hat.’ ” And she is not alone. Far from the Bible Belt’s conservative territories, in blue-state cities and suburbs, young, educated, married mothers find themselves not uninterested in the metaconversation about “having it all” but untouched by it. They are too busy mining their grandmothers’ old-fashioned lives for values they can appropriate like heirlooms, then wear proudly as their own.

a. Feminism has fizzled, its promise only half-fulfilled. This is the revelation of the moment, hashed and rehashed on blogs and talk shows, a cause of grief for some, fury for others. American women are better educated than they’ve ever been, better educated now than men, but they get distracted during their prime earning years by the urge to procreate.

4. .... the revolution that Friedan helped to spark both liberated women and allowed countless numbers of them to experience financial pressure and the profound dissatisfactions of the workaday grind. More women than ever earn some or all of the money their family lives on. But today, in the tumultuous 21st-century economy, depending on a career as a path to self-actualization can seem like a sucker’s bet.

a. ... what was once feminist blasphemy is now conventional wisdom: Generally speaking, mothers instinctively want to devote themselves to home more than fathers do..... For some women, the solution to resolving the long-running tensions between work and life is not more parent-friendly offices or savvier career moves but the full embrace of domesticity.





5. “The feminist revolution started in the workplace, and now it’s happening at home,” says Makino. “I feel like in today’s society, women who don’t work are bucking the convention we were raised with … Why can’t we just be girls? Why do we have to be boys and girls at the same time?” ... the best way for some mothers (and their loved ones) to have a happy life is to make home their highest achievement.
6. This is not the retreat from high-¬pressure workplaces of a previous generation but rather a more active awakening to the virtues of the way things used to be."
The Feminist Housewife: Can Women Have It All by Choosing to Stay Home? -- New York Magazine

There is so much more in the article, "The Retro Wife," that I hope all have an opportunity to read it.





An aside....many who have studied history are aware of the many close bonds and similarities among FDR's New Deal, Hitler's National Socialists, and Mussolini's fascists...until the horrors of the Holocaust were revealed.....and then, the revisionism moved the Nazi's and fascists to the right on the political spectrum.

The New York Magazine article is that sort of revisionism....women choosing traditional, or what should be correctly called conservative lifestyles, are suddenly being rebranded as a new wave of feminists.
I see it as biology winning over neo-Marxism.
Fads don't last.



In any case....it's a step in the 'right' direction.

 

[Sunshine]

Remember the feminist motto, "women need a man like a fish needs a bicycle"?
Well, bicycles are back! And make a fine couple with fish!
And I'm enthralled!

How about this: "The nuclear family must be destroyed... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process." -- Linda Gordon
That revolutionary feminism.....dead. Lost the revolution!

And Simone de Beauvoir in an interview with Betty Friedan said “No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.”
“Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Saturday Review, June 14, 1975, p. 18.

There couldn't be a more definitive defeat that that suffered by the numbskulls quoted above.




Here comes the proof:

1. " When Kelly Makino was a little girl, she loved to go orienteering—to explore the wilderness near her rural Pennsylvania home... She put herself through college at Georgia State working in bars and slinging burgers, planning that with her degree in social work, ... moving up the nonprofit ladder to finally “run a United Way chapter or be the CEO.” Kelly graduated from college magna cum laude and got an M.S.W. from Penn, again with honors, receiving an award for her negotiating skills.

2. Now Kelly is 33, and if dreams were winds, you might say that hers have shifted. She believes that every household needs one primary caretaker, that women are, broadly speaking, better at that job than men, and that no amount of professional success could possibly console her if she felt her two young children—¬Connor, 5, and Lillie, 4—were not being looked after the right way. The maternal instinct is a real thing, Kelly argues: Girls play with dolls from childhood, so “women are raised from the get-go to raise children successfully.

a. ... Kelly’s priorities are nothing if not retrograde. She has given herself over entirely to the care and feeding of her family.... Her sacrifice of a salary tightened the Makinos’ upper-middle-class budget, but the subversion of her personal drive pays them back in ways Kelly believes are priceless; she is now able to be there for her kids no matter what, cooking healthy meals, taking them hiking and to museums, helping patiently with homework, and devoting herself to teaching the life lessons—





3. Kelly calls herself “a flaming liberal” and a feminist, too. “I want my daughter to be able to do anything she wants,” she says. “But I also want to say, ‘Have a career that you can walk away from at the drop of a hat.’ ” And she is not alone. Far from the Bible Belt’s conservative territories, in blue-state cities and suburbs, young, educated, married mothers find themselves not uninterested in the metaconversation about “having it all” but untouched by it. They are too busy mining their grandmothers’ old-fashioned lives for values they can appropriate like heirlooms, then wear proudly as their own.

a. Feminism has fizzled, its promise only half-fulfilled. This is the revelation of the moment, hashed and rehashed on blogs and talk shows, a cause of grief for some, fury for others. American women are better educated than they’ve ever been, better educated now than men, but they get distracted during their prime earning years by the urge to procreate.

4. .... the revolution that Friedan helped to spark both liberated women and allowed countless numbers of them to experience financial pressure and the profound dissatisfactions of the workaday grind. More women than ever earn some or all of the money their family lives on. But today, in the tumultuous 21st-century economy, depending on a career as a path to self-actualization can seem like a sucker’s bet.

a. ... what was once feminist blasphemy is now conventional wisdom: Generally speaking, mothers instinctively want to devote themselves to home more than fathers do..... For some women, the solution to resolving the long-running tensions between work and life is not more parent-friendly offices or savvier career moves but the full embrace of domesticity.





5. “The feminist revolution started in the workplace, and now it’s happening at home,” says Makino. “I feel like in today’s society, women who don’t work are bucking the convention we were raised with … Why can’t we just be girls? Why do we have to be boys and girls at the same time?” ... the best way for some mothers (and their loved ones) to have a happy life is to make home their highest achievement.
6. This is not the retreat from high-¬pressure workplaces of a previous generation but rather a more active awakening to the virtues of the way things used to be."
The Feminist Housewife: Can Women Have It All by Choosing to Stay Home? -- New York Magazine

There is so much more in the article, "The Retro Wife," that I hope all have an opportunity to read it.





An aside....many who have studied history are aware of the many close bonds and similarities among FDR's New Deal, Hitler's National Socialists, and Mussolini's fascists...until the horrors of the Holocaust were revealed.....and then, the revisionism moved the Nazi's and fascists to the right on the political spectrum.

The New York Magazine article is that sort of revisionism....women choosing traditional, or what should be correctly called conservative lifestyles, are suddenly being rebranded as a new wave of feminists.
I see it as biology winning over neo-Marxism.
Fads don't last.



In any case....it's a step in the 'right' direction.

I agree that women should be able to stay at home with their children. However, I believe that all women should also first become able to compete in a man's world. I learned the hard way the cost of not getting that education, not that it was really a choice because I just didn't have the money. When my husband died, the SS could have been enough for me to stay at home, but 10 years later when my children were grown what would I have that I could do? Nothing. So, I went to school and went to work. I paid every dime of their education and mine except for the master's which was paid by a scholarship.

Reality Bites.

 

[Ringel05]

Like all so called radical movements, the feminist movement had, and may have in the future, it's place. It addressed a need to reform society because not all women wanted to be just a wife and a mother. It opened doors that heretofore had been mostly closed to women. As with all good movements it is adapting to the reality that not all women want or need to be corporate professionals and take pride in being a wife and mother and, or somewhere in between.
There will always be the radicals who claim this is a betrayal of their tenants but that's a simple human nature demographic.

 

[Sunshine]

Like all so called radical movements, the feminist movement had, and may have in the future, it's place. It addressed a need to reform society because not all women wanted to be just a wife and a mother. It opened doors that heretofore had been mostly closed to women. As with all good movements it is adapting to the reality that not all women want or need to be corporate professionals and take pride in being a wife and mother and, or somewhere in between.
There will always be the radicals who claim this is a betrayal of their tenants but that's a simple human nature demographic.

Women need to face the fact that men still die at a younger age than women. Some are also real scoundrels who will leave women holding the proverbial bag. I pretty much had to stand behind my daughter pushing her every step of the way through college. Later she did go for her master's, but she will never find herself standing on that 'pedestal' men put women on while they allow the woman to freeze and see their children do without.

 

[Saigon]

I guess the fact that feminism has transformed society more than perhaps any other civil rights movement in history is something that today's women can afford to forget.

If we're lucky, 20 years from now we'll live in a society where women are seen and not heard, can be beaten without fear of prosecution, can be abandoned when they are stupid enough to get pregnant, and whose 'careers' count as hobbies. The last thing the world needs are women like Aung San, Mother Theresa, Golda Meir, Margaret Thatcher or Hillary Clinton taking mens jobs, right?

 

[tinydancer]

The demise of the "feminist movement" began the day that NOW mandated that we become more than equal and decided to get a hate on for men.

 

[Ringel05]

Like all so called radical movements, the feminist movement had, and may have in the future, it's place. It addressed a need to reform society because not all women wanted to be just a wife and a mother. It opened doors that heretofore had been mostly closed to women. As with all good movements it is adapting to the reality that not all women want or need to be corporate professionals and take pride in being a wife and mother and, or somewhere in between.
There will always be the radicals who claim this is a betrayal of their tenants but that's a simple human nature demographic.

Women need to face the fact that men still die at a younger age than women. Some are also real scoundrels who will leave women holding the proverbial bag. I pretty much had to stand behind my daughter pushing her every step of the way through college. Later she did go for her master's, but she will never find herself standing on that 'pedestal' men put women on while they allow the woman to freeze and see their children do without.

Then you daughter wanted to do it at that time otherwise even the pushing would not have worked. We can't push people to do something they may not want to do, they tend to push back or simply walk away.

 

[Sunshine]

Like all so called radical movements, the feminist movement had, and may have in the future, it's place. It addressed a need to reform society because not all women wanted to be just a wife and a mother. It opened doors that heretofore had been mostly closed to women. As with all good movements it is adapting to the reality that not all women want or need to be corporate professionals and take pride in being a wife and mother and, or somewhere in between.
There will always be the radicals who claim this is a betrayal of their tenants but that's a simple human nature demographic.

Women need to face the fact that men still die at a younger age than women. Some are also real scoundrels who will leave women holding the proverbial bag. I pretty much had to stand behind my daughter pushing her every step of the way through college. Later she did go for her master's, but she will never find herself standing on that 'pedestal' men put women on while they allow the woman to freeze and see their children do without.

Then you daughter wanted to do it at that time otherwise even the pushing would not have worked. We can't push people to do something they may not want to do, they tend to push back or simply walk away.

She didn't see the need. Like a lot of women. So, no she really didin't.

 

[Ringel05]

Women need to face the fact that men still die at a younger age than women. Some are also real scoundrels who will leave women holding the proverbial bag. I pretty much had to stand behind my daughter pushing her every step of the way through college. Later she did go for her master's, but she will never find herself standing on that 'pedestal' men put women on while they allow the woman to freeze and see their children do without.

Then you daughter wanted to do it at that time otherwise even the pushing would not have worked. We can't push people to do something they may not want to do, they tend to push back or simply walk away.

She didn't see the need. Like a lot of women. So, no she really didin't.

What I meant was she had a reason to allow you to push her. There's an old adage about trying to push a wet noodle.......

 

[Dorkazoid_Jones]

Feminism was a illogical and immoral movement from the start. Betty Friedan said that marriage was like concentration camp for women. Yet women have traditionally been the ones fantasizing about getting married and having kids. So either women were so stupid that they fantasized about concentration camp like settings or the feminist movement exaggerated disadvantages women had like being "second class citizens." Cleary its the latter. Feminism, like a lot of immoral political movements, started off with many false premises and then demonized anyone who dared to point out the inconsistencies and hate that the movement engendered. To say "all men are rapists" as a prominent feminist did, or that, "all men should be beaten to a bloody pulp" really cannot be considered to be the expressions of an equality movement...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Remember the feminist motto, "women need a man like a fish needs a bicycle"?
Well, bicycles are back! And make a fine couple with fish!
And I'm enthralled!

How about this: "The nuclear family must be destroyed... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process." -- Linda Gordon
That revolutionary feminism.....dead. Lost the revolution!

And Simone de Beauvoir in an interview with Betty Friedan said “No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.”
“Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Saturday Review, June 14, 1975, p. 18.

There couldn't be a more definitive defeat that that suffered by the numbskulls quoted above.




Here comes the proof:

1. " When Kelly Makino was a little girl, she loved to go orienteering—to explore the wilderness near her rural Pennsylvania home... She put herself through college at Georgia State working in bars and slinging burgers, planning that with her degree in social work, ... moving up the nonprofit ladder to finally “run a United Way chapter or be the CEO.” Kelly graduated from college magna cum laude and got an M.S.W. from Penn, again with honors, receiving an award for her negotiating skills.

2. Now Kelly is 33, and if dreams were winds, you might say that hers have shifted. She believes that every household needs one primary caretaker, that women are, broadly speaking, better at that job than men, and that no amount of professional success could possibly console her if she felt her two young children—¬Connor, 5, and Lillie, 4—were not being looked after the right way. The maternal instinct is a real thing, Kelly argues: Girls play with dolls from childhood, so “women are raised from the get-go to raise children successfully.

a. ... Kelly’s priorities are nothing if not retrograde. She has given herself over entirely to the care and feeding of her family.... Her sacrifice of a salary tightened the Makinos’ upper-middle-class budget, but the subversion of her personal drive pays them back in ways Kelly believes are priceless; she is now able to be there for her kids no matter what, cooking healthy meals, taking them hiking and to museums, helping patiently with homework, and devoting herself to teaching the life lessons—





3. Kelly calls herself “a flaming liberal” and a feminist, too. “I want my daughter to be able to do anything she wants,” she says. “But I also want to say, ‘Have a career that you can walk away from at the drop of a hat.’ ” And she is not alone. Far from the Bible Belt’s conservative territories, in blue-state cities and suburbs, young, educated, married mothers find themselves not uninterested in the metaconversation about “having it all” but untouched by it. They are too busy mining their grandmothers’ old-fashioned lives for values they can appropriate like heirlooms, then wear proudly as their own.

a. Feminism has fizzled, its promise only half-fulfilled. This is the revelation of the moment, hashed and rehashed on blogs and talk shows, a cause of grief for some, fury for others. American women are better educated than they’ve ever been, better educated now than men, but they get distracted during their prime earning years by the urge to procreate.

4. .... the revolution that Friedan helped to spark both liberated women and allowed countless numbers of them to experience financial pressure and the profound dissatisfactions of the workaday grind. More women than ever earn some or all of the money their family lives on. But today, in the tumultuous 21st-century economy, depending on a career as a path to self-actualization can seem like a sucker’s bet.

a. ... what was once feminist blasphemy is now conventional wisdom: Generally speaking, mothers instinctively want to devote themselves to home more than fathers do..... For some women, the solution to resolving the long-running tensions between work and life is not more parent-friendly offices or savvier career moves but the full embrace of domesticity.





5. “The feminist revolution started in the workplace, and now it’s happening at home,” says Makino. “I feel like in today’s society, women who don’t work are bucking the convention we were raised with … Why can’t we just be girls? Why do we have to be boys and girls at the same time?” ... the best way for some mothers (and their loved ones) to have a happy life is to make home their highest achievement.
6. This is not the retreat from high-¬pressure workplaces of a previous generation but rather a more active awakening to the virtues of the way things used to be."
The Feminist Housewife: Can Women Have It All by Choosing to Stay Home? -- New York Magazine

There is so much more in the article, "The Retro Wife," that I hope all have an opportunity to read it.





An aside....many who have studied history are aware of the many close bonds and similarities among FDR's New Deal, Hitler's National Socialists, and Mussolini's fascists...until the horrors of the Holocaust were revealed.....and then, the revisionism moved the Nazi's and fascists to the right on the political spectrum.

The New York Magazine article is that sort of revisionism....women choosing traditional, or what should be correctly called conservative lifestyles, are suddenly being rebranded as a new wave of feminists.
I see it as biology winning over neo-Marxism.
Fads don't last.



In any case....it's a step in the 'right' direction.

I agree that women should be able to stay at home with their children. However, I believe that all women should also first become able to compete in a man's world. I learned the hard way the cost of not getting that education, not that it was really a choice because I just didn't have the money. When my husband died, the SS could have been enough for me to stay at home, but 10 years later when my children were grown what would I have that I could do? Nothing. So, I went to school and went to work. I paid every dime of their education and mine except for the master's which was paid by a scholarship.

Reality Bites.

And you should be correctly proud of such accomplishments.

I don't see any disagreement, actually, with your achievements and the point of the OP...

This from the OP:
" Far from the Bible Belt’s conservative territories, in blue-state cities and suburbs, young, educated, married mothers find themselves not uninterested in the metaconversation about “having it all” but untouched by it. They are too busy mining their grandmothers’ old-fashioned lives for values they can appropriate like heirlooms, then wear proudly as their own."

My biggest gripe with early feminism was the demand.....the actual demand...that women behave in certain ways that mirror men, and not only the good aspects.

Plus the meanness, and hostility.....

 

[t_polkow]

Remember the feminist motto, "women need a man like a fish needs a bicycle"?
Well, bicycles are back! And make a fine couple with fish!
And I'm enthralled!

How about this: "The nuclear family must be destroyed... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process." -- Linda Gordon
That revolutionary feminism.....dead. Lost the revolution!

And Simone de Beauvoir in an interview with Betty Friedan said “No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.”
“Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Saturday Review, June 14, 1975, p. 18.

There couldn't be a more definitive defeat that that suffered by the numbskulls quoted above.




Here comes the proof:

1. " When Kelly Makino was a little girl, she loved to go orienteering—to explore the wilderness near her rural Pennsylvania home... She put herself through college at Georgia State working in bars and slinging burgers, planning that with her degree in social work, ... moving up the nonprofit ladder to finally “run a United Way chapter or be the CEO.” Kelly graduated from college magna cum laude and got an M.S.W. from Penn, again with honors, receiving an award for her negotiating skills.

2. Now Kelly is 33, and if dreams were winds, you might say that hers have shifted. She believes that every household needs one primary caretaker, that women are, broadly speaking, better at that job than men, and that no amount of professional success could possibly console her if she felt her two young children—¬Connor, 5, and Lillie, 4—were not being looked after the right way. The maternal instinct is a real thing, Kelly argues: Girls play with dolls from childhood, so “women are raised from the get-go to raise children successfully.

a. ... Kelly’s priorities are nothing if not retrograde. She has given herself over entirely to the care and feeding of her family.... Her sacrifice of a salary tightened the Makinos’ upper-middle-class budget, but the subversion of her personal drive pays them back in ways Kelly believes are priceless; she is now able to be there for her kids no matter what, cooking healthy meals, taking them hiking and to museums, helping patiently with homework, and devoting herself to teaching the life lessons—





3. Kelly calls herself “a flaming liberal” and a feminist, too. “I want my daughter to be able to do anything she wants,” she says. “But I also want to say, ‘Have a career that you can walk away from at the drop of a hat.’ ” And she is not alone. Far from the Bible Belt’s conservative territories, in blue-state cities and suburbs, young, educated, married mothers find themselves not uninterested in the metaconversation about “having it all” but untouched by it. They are too busy mining their grandmothers’ old-fashioned lives for values they can appropriate like heirlooms, then wear proudly as their own.

a. Feminism has fizzled, its promise only half-fulfilled. This is the revelation of the moment, hashed and rehashed on blogs and talk shows, a cause of grief for some, fury for others. American women are better educated than they’ve ever been, better educated now than men, but they get distracted during their prime earning years by the urge to procreate.

4. .... the revolution that Friedan helped to spark both liberated women and allowed countless numbers of them to experience financial pressure and the profound dissatisfactions of the workaday grind. More women than ever earn some or all of the money their family lives on. But today, in the tumultuous 21st-century economy, depending on a career as a path to self-actualization can seem like a sucker’s bet.

a. ... what was once feminist blasphemy is now conventional wisdom: Generally speaking, mothers instinctively want to devote themselves to home more than fathers do..... For some women, the solution to resolving the long-running tensions between work and life is not more parent-friendly offices or savvier career moves but the full embrace of domesticity.





5. “The feminist revolution started in the workplace, and now it’s happening at home,” says Makino. “I feel like in today’s society, women who don’t work are bucking the convention we were raised with … Why can’t we just be girls? Why do we have to be boys and girls at the same time?” ... the best way for some mothers (and their loved ones) to have a happy life is to make home their highest achievement.
6. This is not the retreat from high-¬pressure workplaces of a previous generation but rather a more active awakening to the virtues of the way things used to be."
The Feminist Housewife: Can Women Have It All by Choosing to Stay Home? -- New York Magazine

There is so much more in the article, "The Retro Wife," that I hope all have an opportunity to read it.





An aside....many who have studied history are aware of the many close bonds and similarities among FDR's New Deal, Hitler's National Socialists, and Mussolini's fascists...until the horrors of the Holocaust were revealed.....and then, the revisionism moved the Nazi's and fascists to the right on the political spectrum.

The New York Magazine article is that sort of revisionism....women choosing traditional, or what should be correctly called conservative lifestyles, are suddenly being rebranded as a new wave of feminists.
I see it as biology winning over neo-Marxism.
Fads don't last.



In any case....it's a step in the 'right' direction.

You haven't been in this country long have you

 

[Ringel05]

Feminism was a illogical and immoral movement from the start. Betty Friedan said that marriage was like concentration camp for women. Yet women have traditionally been the ones fantasizing about getting married and having kids. So either women were so stupid that they fantasized about concentration camp like settings or the feminist movement exaggerated disadvantages women had like being "second class citizens." Cleary its the latter. Feminism, like a lot of immoral political movements, started off with many false premises and then demonized anyone who dared to point out the inconsistencies and hate that the movement engendered. To say "all men are rapists" as a prominent feminist did, or that, "all men should be beaten to a bloody pulp" really cannot be considered to be the expressions of an equality movement...

Did someone just fart? Whew! That one stunk!!!

 

[PredFan]

I've seen many a young feminist suddenly abandon it when they have to raise a son.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I guess the fact that feminism has transformed society more than perhaps any other civil rights movement in history is something that today's women can afford to forget.

If we're lucky, 20 years from now we'll live in a society where women are seen and not heard, can be beaten without fear of prosecution, can be abandoned when they are stupid enough to get pregnant, and whose 'careers' count as hobbies. The last thing the world needs are women like Aung San, Mother Theresa, Golda Meir, Margaret Thatcher or Hillary Clinton taking mens jobs, right?

1. "I guess the fact that feminism has transformed society more than perhaps any other civil rights movement in history is something that today's women can afford to forget."

Guess again, dunce.

"The single largest factor in the advances that women have made, after the right to vote and the right of wives to hold property in their own names, is technology. Prior to the many time saving and work saving housework devices, there was no possibility that a women could have both a family and a career."
Bork, "Slouching Toward Gomorrah," chapter 11




2. Gee....another liberal who won't be happy until all folks hold identical views....and probably dress in identical uniforms.


Hey....you better hurry: you're gonna miss the 20-minute hissing session at Emmanuel Goldstein!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Remember the feminist motto, "women need a man like a fish needs a bicycle"?
Well, bicycles are back! And make a fine couple with fish!
And I'm enthralled!

How about this: "The nuclear family must be destroyed... Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process." -- Linda Gordon
That revolutionary feminism.....dead. Lost the revolution!

And Simone de Beauvoir in an interview with Betty Friedan said “No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.”
“Sex, Society, and the Female Dilemma,” Saturday Review, June 14, 1975, p. 18.

There couldn't be a more definitive defeat that that suffered by the numbskulls quoted above.




Here comes the proof:

1. " When Kelly Makino was a little girl, she loved to go orienteering—to explore the wilderness near her rural Pennsylvania home... She put herself through college at Georgia State working in bars and slinging burgers, planning that with her degree in social work, ... moving up the nonprofit ladder to finally “run a United Way chapter or be the CEO.” Kelly graduated from college magna cum laude and got an M.S.W. from Penn, again with honors, receiving an award for her negotiating skills.

2. Now Kelly is 33, and if dreams were winds, you might say that hers have shifted. She believes that every household needs one primary caretaker, that women are, broadly speaking, better at that job than men, and that no amount of professional success could possibly console her if she felt her two young children—¬Connor, 5, and Lillie, 4—were not being looked after the right way. The maternal instinct is a real thing, Kelly argues: Girls play with dolls from childhood, so “women are raised from the get-go to raise children successfully.

a. ... Kelly’s priorities are nothing if not retrograde. She has given herself over entirely to the care and feeding of her family.... Her sacrifice of a salary tightened the Makinos’ upper-middle-class budget, but the subversion of her personal drive pays them back in ways Kelly believes are priceless; she is now able to be there for her kids no matter what, cooking healthy meals, taking them hiking and to museums, helping patiently with homework, and devoting herself to teaching the life lessons—





3. Kelly calls herself “a flaming liberal” and a feminist, too. “I want my daughter to be able to do anything she wants,” she says. “But I also want to say, ‘Have a career that you can walk away from at the drop of a hat.’ ” And she is not alone. Far from the Bible Belt’s conservative territories, in blue-state cities and suburbs, young, educated, married mothers find themselves not uninterested in the metaconversation about “having it all” but untouched by it. They are too busy mining their grandmothers’ old-fashioned lives for values they can appropriate like heirlooms, then wear proudly as their own.

a. Feminism has fizzled, its promise only half-fulfilled. This is the revelation of the moment, hashed and rehashed on blogs and talk shows, a cause of grief for some, fury for others. American women are better educated than they’ve ever been, better educated now than men, but they get distracted during their prime earning years by the urge to procreate.

4. .... the revolution that Friedan helped to spark both liberated women and allowed countless numbers of them to experience financial pressure and the profound dissatisfactions of the workaday grind. More women than ever earn some or all of the money their family lives on. But today, in the tumultuous 21st-century economy, depending on a career as a path to self-actualization can seem like a sucker’s bet.

a. ... what was once feminist blasphemy is now conventional wisdom: Generally speaking, mothers instinctively want to devote themselves to home more than fathers do..... For some women, the solution to resolving the long-running tensions between work and life is not more parent-friendly offices or savvier career moves but the full embrace of domesticity.





5. “The feminist revolution started in the workplace, and now it’s happening at home,” says Makino. “I feel like in today’s society, women who don’t work are bucking the convention we were raised with … Why can’t we just be girls? Why do we have to be boys and girls at the same time?” ... the best way for some mothers (and their loved ones) to have a happy life is to make home their highest achievement.
6. This is not the retreat from high-¬pressure workplaces of a previous generation but rather a more active awakening to the virtues of the way things used to be."
The Feminist Housewife: Can Women Have It All by Choosing to Stay Home? -- New York Magazine

There is so much more in the article, "The Retro Wife," that I hope all have an opportunity to read it.





An aside....many who have studied history are aware of the many close bonds and similarities among FDR's New Deal, Hitler's National Socialists, and Mussolini's fascists...until the horrors of the Holocaust were revealed.....and then, the revisionism moved the Nazi's and fascists to the right on the political spectrum.

The New York Magazine article is that sort of revisionism....women choosing traditional, or what should be correctly called conservative lifestyles, are suddenly being rebranded as a new wave of feminists.
I see it as biology winning over neo-Marxism.
Fads don't last.



In any case....it's a step in the 'right' direction.

You haven't been in this country long have you

Who the heck do you think you are, Chauncey Gardiner?


Stop pretending that these hit-and-run posts hover over really significant meaning.


Spit it out, say what you mean....

...take me on, and I'll take you to the woodshed.


Waiting.

 

[Mad Scientist]

 

[Dorkazoid_Jones]

Feminism was a illogical and immoral movement from the start. Betty Friedan said that marriage was like concentration camp for women. Yet women have traditionally been the ones fantasizing about getting married and having kids. So either women were so stupid that they fantasized about concentration camp like settings or the feminist movement exaggerated disadvantages women had like being "second class citizens." Cleary its the latter. Feminism, like a lot of immoral political movements, started off with many false premises and then demonized anyone who dared to point out the inconsistencies and hate that the movement engendered. To say "all men are rapists" as a prominent feminist did, or that, "all men should be beaten to a bloody pulp" really cannot be considered to be the expressions of an equality movement...

Did someone just fart? Whew! That one stunk!!!

Thank you for letting us share in your MASSIVE, surging intellect. I'm suprised you even have enough energy to even wipe yourself after having that exhaustive scholarly response...

 

[PoliticalChic]

" If that were evolutionary psychology’s whole story about women, then its experts would be proclaiming patriarchy as our destiny, which they don’t tend to do. In fact, as neuroscientists and geneticists piece together the human brain’s evolution, it’s becoming clear that, if it’s natural for a woman to go crazy over her babies, it’s also natural for a woman to run the State Department. The same human female brain that’s primed with oxytocin is, like the male brain, a fantastically complex machine, capable of reasoning, innovative problem solving, and maneuvering through hugely varied social environments—whether the PTA, a corporate headquarters, or Congress."
Femina Sapiens in the Nursery by Kay S. Hymowitz, City Journal Autumn 2009

 

[Ringel05]

Feminism was a illogical and immoral movement from the start. Betty Friedan said that marriage was like concentration camp for women. Yet women have traditionally been the ones fantasizing about getting married and having kids. So either women were so stupid that they fantasized about concentration camp like settings or the feminist movement exaggerated disadvantages women had like being "second class citizens." Cleary its the latter. Feminism, like a lot of immoral political movements, started off with many false premises and then demonized anyone who dared to point out the inconsistencies and hate that the movement engendered. To say "all men are rapists" as a prominent feminist did, or that, "all men should be beaten to a bloody pulp" really cannot be considered to be the expressions of an equality movement...

Did someone just fart? Whew! That one stunk!!!

Thank you for letting us share in your MASSIVE, surging intellect. I'm suprised you even have enough energy to even wipe yourself after having that exhaustive scholarly response...

Oh please, really, there's no need to try and portray yourself as having any intellectual prowess, it's truly an exercise in futility and self delusion.