Five reasons to own an A-15 type rifle

[Moonglow]

Take a chill pill dude........

Lighten up, Francis.

Yep, you must have served during Korea and Nam..

 

[xband]

It says you can have RPGs as much as it says you can have military style semi automatics.

There is a huge difference between an RPG anti-tank grenade and a semi-automatic rifle that looks, but doesn't function, as a military firearm.

There ain't too much difference between Krystal and White Castle.

 

[cnm]

or self-defense, a reliable semi-automatic is king.

Rubbish.
Never ever rely on a semi auto. A double barrel shotgun is as reliable as anything comes. No matter what ammunition you feed it, it will go bang.

 

[rightwinger]

Why do you need an AR-15

1. Impress your buddies at the shooting range
2. Supports your Rambo fantasies
3. What if your first 49 shots miss?
4. Let's you fight the evil Gubmint
5. There is no better tool for shooting homos, a movie theater or class full of first graders

 

[Divine Wind]

Take a chill pill dude........

Lighten up, Francis.

Yep, you must have served during Korea and Nam..

1) No
2) Now you're a fucking liar.

 

[cnm]

There is a huge difference between an RPG anti-tank grenade and a semi-automatic rifle that looks, but doesn't function, as a military firearm.

Both are borne for the security of a free state per the Constitution, no?

 

[xband]

It says you can have RPGs as much as it says you can have military style semi automatics.

There is a huge difference between an RPG anti-tank grenade and a semi-automatic rifle that looks, but doesn't function, as a military firearm.

There is

I've seen many ignorant righties who didn't know firearms nomenclature.

The magazine v. clip issue is for purists.

I've seen a lot more ignorant lefties who think I can order a full auto machine gun through the mail which is why they want to pass Obama's gun ban.

The Navy calls it a magazine.

 

[cnm]

Great for home defense, hunting and sport shooting:

I'll never go hunting with anyone who carries one of those. Shows their complete ignorance of what's important.

 

[Divine Wind]

Never ever rely on a semi auto. A double barrel shotgun is as reliable as anything comes. No matter what ammunition you feed it, it will go bang.

No matter what ammunition? Seriously? Isn't this part of the discussion where we were talking about the ignorance of people on firearms?

I've rarely had problems with semi-autos, but admit that can happen. A lot of the problems occurred after a lot of shooting due to fouling and some due to types of ammo in certain rifles.

Example; I've never had a problem using lacquered steel-case ammo in my AKs, but have read numerous accounts of people having problems with them in their Mini-14s chambered in 7.62x39.

 

[Divine Wind]

It says you can have RPGs as much as it says you can have military style semi automatics.

There is a huge difference between an RPG anti-tank grenade and a semi-automatic rifle that looks, but doesn't function, as a military firearm.

There is

I've seen many ignorant righties who didn't know firearms nomenclature.

The magazine v. clip issue is for purists.

I've seen a lot more ignorant lefties who think I can order a full auto machine gun through the mail which is why they want to pass Obama's gun ban.

The Navy calls it a magazine.

So does the Marine Corps. However I don't get bent out of shape over it because 1) not every firearms expert served in the military, much less under the Department of the Navy and 2) this article:

Clips Vs. Magazines
While at the range with some friends recently, the question was raised about the difference between a clip and a magazine. Some of the guys were very picky about this, insisting you should never call a magazine a clip. So what is the difference between a clip and a magazine? Which came first and how long have these terms been used?

The word “magazine” has been used for centuries to describe a place in which ammunition or gunpowder is stored. According to the Oxford English Dictionary the term defined as “A place in which a quantity of arms, ammunition or provisions is stored in time of war” dates to at least 1596. The use of the word as “A chamber for a supply of bullets” dates to 1744, again according to the Oxford English Dictionary,which was long before there were self-contained cartridges. It is hard to pin down exactly when “clip” was first used in relation to firearms, but “charger” appears in 1711 as “either bandoleers or Flasks that contain the powder.” Again, both terms already were in use before repeating firearms.

Today, when people talk about magazines, they are usually referring to a spring-loaded container for cartridges that may be an integral part of a firearm’s mechanism or may be detachable. When it comes to integral magazines-meaning not readily removable-common forms include tubular, rotary or box. Many popular repeating rifles have hinged floorplates to allow the magazine to be emptied with no need to cycle cartridges through the action. Then there are blind magazines in which there is no access to the ammunition except through the action port.

Although there are detachable drum magazines and detachable rotary magazines (i.e., Ruger’s 10/22), the most common form used in new rifles and handguns is the detachable box magazine, which is typically loaded before insertion into the firearm. Some do allow topping off from inside the action port, though.

“Chargers” or “charger clips” come in several varieties, including en-bloc clips that actually hold the cartridges and go into the gun and are part of the feeding mechanism. Notable examples include the eight-round clip for the M1 Garand (ejected out the top of the action after firing the last round) and those for military Mannlicher bolt-actions, the latter of which drop out the bottom of the magazine as the last round is stripped into the chamber.

Stripper clips are used to “strip” cartridges into the magazine of a firearm, such as in Mauser broomhandle pistols and Mauser bolt-action military rifles. These are not essential to feeding from the magazine, but they are a rapid method of charging it. And some stripper clips were intended to be used to fill detachable-box magazines while not in the gun, such as early 10-round stripper clips for the AR-15/M16.

There has been little consistency in what was called a charger and what was called a stripper clip over time. For example, when the British adapted the Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield, Mk III in 1907, older Lee-Enfield and Lee-Metford rifles were upgraded with charger bridges to convert them to “Charger-Loading,” meaning their 10-round, detachable-box magazines could be fed by stripper clips through the top of the action. Confused yet? Rifles such as the U.S. M14 have guides on their receivers to allow their detachable box magazines to be loaded by a stripper clip.

The bottom line is that both terms, clip and magazine, are used almost interchangeably today to describe a detachable device for feeding the action of a firearm. Before purists chime in, let me add that back in 1909 and 1910--as the United States was looking at adopting its first self-loading pistol for widespread issue--in U.S. Army Ordnance Dept. documents it referred to the detachable box magazine for what would become the U.S. M1911 pistol as, well, a clip.

 

[xband]

Great for home defense, hunting and sport shooting:

I'll never go hunting with anyone who carries one of those. Shows their complete ignorance of what's important.

I don't want to mow down Bambi with Puff the Magic Dragon.

 

[cnm]

No matter what ammunition? Seriously?

Yes. Reloads, crappy target loads, old loads, they all go bang in a double barrel shotgun. You can't rely on them to cycle a semi, apart from the inherent unreliablity of more parts in a semi..

I've rarely had problems with semi-autos, but admit that can happen.

Guaranteed at the most inopportune times.

 

[Divine Wind]

I don't want to mow down Bambi with Puff the Magic Dragon.

Me neither. One shot, one kill.

However, when faced with a herd of scattering hogs, it comes in handy to have more than a single shot sniper rifle.

 

[Divine Wind]

No matter what ammunition? Seriously?

Yes. Reloads, crappy target loads, old loads, they all go bang in a double barrel shotgun. You can't rely on them to cycle a semi, apart from the inherent unreliablity of more parts in a semi..

Regardless of the quality of primer and powder? Doubtful.

 

[cnm]

I don't want to mow down Bambi with Puff the Magic Dragon.

And I don't want to go stalking through bush with someone who has a closed cocked action, especially if the safety's not on. And if the safety is on, I don't believe it can be taken off silently enough not to disturb an animal at 15 or 20 metres. They are crap hunting weapons.

edit...And in any event I'm not going hunting with anyone who relies on a safety.

 

[cnm]

However, when faced with a herd of scattering hogs, it comes in handy to have more than a single shot sniper rifle.

I've shot up mobs of feral goats with a BRNO small ring Mauser. It is more than enough if one knows what one's doing.

edit...though as in all mass killings magazine capacity can be a limiting factor.

edit2...though I can't remember ever having targets left after using the one in the chamber and the five in the mag.

 

[cnm]

Regardless of the quality of primer and powder? Doubtful.

Never had it happen. Had semis not cycle.

But fair enough, allow me to rephrase. It's much less likely for a double barrel shotgun to malfunction than it is for a semi to malfunction. Further, a semi will malfunction under conditions which will not affect a double barrel.

 

[xband]

I don't want to mow down Bambi with Puff the Magic Dragon.

And I don't want to go stalking through bush with someone who has a closed cocked action, especially if the safetie's not on. And if the safety is on, I don't believe it can be taken off silently enough not to disturb an animal at 15 or 20 metres. They are crap hunting weapons.

We use bow and arrow in my neck of the woods.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

There is only one reason. Because the Constitution says I can.

The Supreme Court has already ruled that we have the right to limit how dangerous of weapons civilians can own without a special license. Extend that to semi-automatic weapons that can take a quickly replaced clip.

Magazine not clip... Fuck face

An assault rifle is not a gun.........

But the civilian AR-15 is not an assault rifle, so it is a gun

Bullshit. It is a weapon of war that even in the civilian version can fire 30 shots in under 10 seconds, and be reload in less than 2 seconds. Any gun that can do that is an effective weapon for mass killings, and that is exactly what we have seen happen.

I've fired real weapons of war. If people like you think that an AR-15 is one of these then you would really shit your pants seeing the genuine article in action.

Stop parroting the Democratic Party elite these silly comparisons are theirs. Get educated on firearms and the Constitution it will change your life.

There is only one reason. Because the Constitution says I can.

The Supreme Court has already ruled that we have the right to limit how dangerous of weapons civilians can own without a special license. Extend that to semi-automatic weapons that can take a quickly replaced clip.

You just banded every sem-automatic. Are you willing to kill a lot of people to ban these weapons. This isn't Australia or Britain. People here have been living with the freedom to bare arms all their lives and will not willingly give up so meekly. So it will come down to prison and or executions and I think the ones that are so ready to steal away the rights from others should be the ones to carry out the executions.

Would you like to go after the freedom of speech next I mean since your taking a crap all over the 2nd the 1st ain't that far away.

 

[xband]

The Supreme Court has already ruled that we have the right to limit how dangerous of weapons civilians can own without a special license. Extend that to semi-automatic weapons that can take a quickly replaced clip.

Magazine not clip... Fuck face

An assault rifle is not a gun.........

But the civilian AR-15 is not an assault rifle, so it is a gun

Bullshit. It is a weapon of war that even in the civilian version can fire 30 shots in under 10 seconds, and be reload in less than 2 seconds. Any gun that can do that is an effective weapon for mass killings, and that is exactly what we have seen happen.

I've fired real weapons of war. If people like you think that an AR-15 is one of these then you would really shit your pants seeing the genuine article in action.

Stop parroting the Democratic Party elite these silly comparisons are theirs. Get educated on firearms and the Constitution it will change your life.

There is only one reason. Because the Constitution says I can.

The Supreme Court has already ruled that we have the right to limit how dangerous of weapons civilians can own without a special license. Extend that to semi-automatic weapons that can take a quickly replaced clip.

You just banded every sem-automatic. Are you willing to kill a lot of people to ban these weapons. This isn't Australia or Britain. People here have been living with the freedom to bare arms all their lives and will not willingly give up so meekly. So it will come down to prison and or executions and I think the ones that are so ready to steal away the rights from others should be the ones to carry out the executions.

Would you like to go after the freedom of speech next I mean since your taking a crap all over the 2nd the 1st ain't that far away.

The biggest gun I pulled the pickle on in time of war had a five inch bore rifled barrel and the projectile weighed 73 pounds and the powder weighed 42 pounds and the TNT in the projectile weighed 6 pounds. 1800 feet per second that could be put in rapid fire with a flick of a switch.