Florida Democrat leader Nikki Fried says “I’m not a doctor” when asked whether transgender women (males) can give birth or have an abortion.

Exactly. And when you're choosing which of these fit into which category, that is subjective. Objective things dont require your input, just your observation. We see this more clearly with the intersex where the existence of both male and female genitalia leads to subjective judgement calls. Do you classify someone born with a vagina, internal testes and heavy testosterone production like Caster Semenya, a male or female? Her doctor classified her as female and that's how she identifies. Is that objective?
 
What part of "I have no problem with it" confuses your pea brain, Dumbass?
None. I love it when you call me "Dumb ass" The space removes the scriggly red line. Now, if I could just remove it from scriggly, My life would be complete.
 
Exactly. And when you're choosing which of these fit into which category, that is subjective. Objective things dont require your input, just your observation. We see this more clearly with the intersex where the existence of both male and female genitalia leads to subjective judgement calls. Do you classify someone born with a vagina, internal testes and heavy testosterone production like Caster Semenya, a male or female? Her doctor classified her as female and that's how she identifies. Is that objective?

Exactly what? What is subjective about biology?

Now, you wearing women's clothing and claiming to be female is certainly a subjective claim. You can dress up as a Disney Princess but you're not really a Princess.

When has a biological female ever gotten prostate cancer? Yes, it's another deep dive into the absurdity of the woke leftists which reminds us that the woke left is divorced from reality.
 
Cuz the Left loves science.

Datz what dey sez.

Reality says otherwise.



Political Science ... which is not, as has always been understood to be, the science of politics, but the politicization of science for political reasons ... has two main doctrines

1. Don't question anything you read that someone has labeled "scientific". Believe it as gospel.

2. If you have a belief, regardless of whether or not it is founded on a fact verifiable by science, declare it to be "scientific"and insult the intelligence of those who might question your belief.


Actual Science has always been about questioning, verifying, proving, and creating demonstrable results. It has never been about faith, dogma, or scientific heresy.
 
Sure I have. With my first link. What part of functioning uterus confuses you?

Sure, you're confused. You cut and pasted a completely unverified article from a tabloid that offered nothing but commentary from the person who claimed to be a man pretending to be a pregnant female.

Why would you expect anyone else to believe a tabloid story?
 
Exactly what? What is subjective about biology?
I didn't say biology itself was subjective, I said categorization was. And that's inherently true.
Now, you wearing women's clothing and claiming to be female is certainly a subjective claim. You can dress up as a Disney Princess but you're not really a Princess.
Well Princess itself is an imaginary title not a biological observation. No one is biologically a princess. Gendered clothing is subjective. For instance skirts are typically seen as feminine in our culture but not so much in Scottish. Trans identities do have evidence of biological observation through fMRI imagining of their brains. fMRI images of trans brains show a shift from their assigned gender at birth to their chosen one.

Brain Sex in Transgender Women Is Shifted towards Gender Identity
When has a biological female ever gotten prostate cancer? Yes, it's another deep dive into the absurdity of the woke leftists which reminds us that the woke left is divorced from reality.
You've gone too far ahead. What is a biological female? Are you going by chromosomes? Hormone production? Reproductive capabilities? Genitalia?

The Myth Of Biological Sex

Many who oppose transgender rights believe that gender is determined solely by biological sex. But, biological sex isn’t as straightforward as they likely think, and there is no one parameter that makes a person biologically male or female. In fact, many conditions make assigning a biological sex quite difficult.

The biology of sex is real, but it’s extremely complicated, and there is sometimes no easy way to draw a line between the biologically male and female. According to the BBC documentary, Me, My Sex and I, “There are about a dozen different conditions that blur the line between male and female. They’re known as disorders of sexual development or DSDs…. Altogether, DSDs occur as frequently as twins or red hair.”

Most think chromosomes hold the key to biological sex, but that’s not always the case. Typically, those with two X chromosomes are considered biologically female and those with one X and one Y chromosome are considered biologically male. However, a DSD known as Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (AIS) leads some to have an X and Y chromosome, but physically appear to be girls. Without genetic testing, babies with AIS are often assigned female sex at birth and are raised as girls. They may not realize they are not biologically female until they hit puberty and don’t begin to menstruate.

The presence or lack of a penis is often thought of as another clear indicator of biological sex, but that’s not a decisive way to divide the sexes either. Some individuals are born with ambiguous genitalia and are not clearly male or female in genital appearance at birth. In fact, research indicates that about 2% of the population is born with these ambiguous traits. Those born with congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH), for example, are chromosomally female but may have very masculinized genitalia. Despite the ambiguity, biological sex is often assigned to these individuals within a few days of birth.

When genitalia is ambiguous, doctors try to determine biological sex by examining many indicators. In addition to chromosomes, doctors will examine if the baby has ovaries or testes, and whether or not they have a womb. Doctors also look at the hormones being produced and try to guess how the baby’s genitals will develop. To complicate the process, the results from each of these tests may not be clearly male or female but could fall somewhere in between. A baby may have a womb and may also have testicles inside their body. Rather than take a “wait and see” approach, doctors often still feel compelled to choose one sex for the baby.

In elite athletics, testosterone is sometimes seen as the key to identifying who is permitted to participate as female. South-African runner Caster Semenya was assigned female at birth, raised as a girl and identifies as a woman. But Semenya has a DSD, and as a result, has XY chromosomes and very high testosterone levels. In 2019, new rules were instituted to keep women like Semenya from participating in certain events unless they take medication to lower their testosterone levels. Studies of testosterone levels in elite athletes show overlap between men and women, so it’s tough to use testosterone as criteria for who is biologically male and who is biologically female.

One of the reasons most of us are unaware of the ambiguity surrounding biological sex is that genitalia is something we don’t talk about openly. Clinical Psychologist, Aileen Schast, counseled parents who had given birth to children with DSDs and explained in a documentary how difficult it was for parents of a newborn whose sex was not clearly defined. “That early feeling of shame starts to develop. ‘This is something I can’t talk about. It has to do with genitalia, and we don’t talk about that. So, I can’t tell my sister and I can’t tell my friends at work,’” she described. Since few discuss these conditions, many don’t realize that they exist.

“What’s amazed me the most is that there is such a continuum from the male to the female, and it’s really hard to draw a line somewhere neatly in the middle,” Schast added. Biological sex, it turns out, is a lot like gender identity—not always male or female, but occasionally somewhere in between.
 
I didn't say biology itself was subjective, I said categorization was. And that's inherently true.

Well Princess itself is an imaginary title not a biological observation. No one is biologically a princess. Gendered clothing is subjective. For instance skirts are typically seen as feminine in our culture but not so much in Scottish. Trans identities do have evidence of biological observation through fMRI imagining of their brains. fMRI images of trans brains show a shift from their assigned gender at birth to their chosen one.

Brain Sex in Transgender Women Is Shifted towards Gender Identity

You've gone too far ahead. What is a biological female? Are you going by chromosomes? Hormone production? Reproductive capabilities? Genitalia?

The Myth Of Biological Sex

Many who oppose transgender rights believe that gender is determined solely by biological sex. But, biological sex isn’t as straightforward as they likely think, and there is no one parameter that makes a person biologically male or female. In fact, many conditions make assigning a biological sex quite difficult.

The biology of sex is real, but it’s extremely complicated, and there is sometimes no easy way to draw a line between the biologically male and female. According to the BBC documentary, Me, My Sex and I, “There are about a dozen different conditions that blur the line between male and female. They’re known as disorders of sexual development or DSDs…. Altogether, DSDs occur as frequently as twins or red hair.”

Most think chromosomes hold the key to biological sex, but that’s not always the case. Typically, those with two X chromosomes are considered biologically female and those with one X and one Y chromosome are considered biologically male. However, a DSD known as Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (AIS) leads some to have an X and Y chromosome, but physically appear to be girls. Without genetic testing, babies with AIS are often assigned female sex at birth and are raised as girls. They may not realize they are not biologically female until they hit puberty and don’t begin to menstruate.

The presence or lack of a penis is often thought of as another clear indicator of biological sex, but that’s not a decisive way to divide the sexes either. Some individuals are born with ambiguous genitalia and are not clearly male or female in genital appearance at birth. In fact, research indicates that about 2% of the population is born with these ambiguous traits. Those born with congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH), for example, are chromosomally female but may have very masculinized genitalia. Despite the ambiguity, biological sex is often assigned to these individuals within a few days of birth.

When genitalia is ambiguous, doctors try to determine biological sex by examining many indicators. In addition to chromosomes, doctors will examine if the baby has ovaries or testes, and whether or not they have a womb. Doctors also look at the hormones being produced and try to guess how the baby’s genitals will develop. To complicate the process, the results from each of these tests may not be clearly male or female but could fall somewhere in between. A baby may have a womb and may also have testicles inside their body. Rather than take a “wait and see” approach, doctors often still feel compelled to choose one sex for the baby.

In elite athletics, testosterone is sometimes seen as the key to identifying who is permitted to participate as female. South-African runner Caster Semenya was assigned female at birth, raised as a girl and identifies as a woman. But Semenya has a DSD, and as a result, has XY chromosomes and very high testosterone levels. In 2019, new rules were instituted to keep women like Semenya from participating in certain events unless they take medication to lower their testosterone levels. Studies of testosterone levels in elite athletes show overlap between men and women, so it’s tough to use testosterone as criteria for who is biologically male and who is biologically female.

One of the reasons most of us are unaware of the ambiguity surrounding biological sex is that genitalia is something we don’t talk about openly. Clinical Psychologist, Aileen Schast, counseled parents who had given birth to children with DSDs and explained in a documentary how difficult it was for parents of a newborn whose sex was not clearly defined. “That early feeling of shame starts to develop. ‘This is something I can’t talk about. It has to do with genitalia, and we don’t talk about that. So, I can’t tell my sister and I can’t tell my friends at work,’” she described. Since few discuss these conditions, many don’t realize that they exist.

“What’s amazed me the most is that there is such a continuum from the male to the female, and it’s really hard to draw a line somewhere neatly in the middle,” Schast added. Biological sex, it turns out, is a lot like gender identity—not always male or female, but occasionally somewhere in between.
 
I really didn't need your song selection to tell me you guys are taking all this rather emotionally. :lmao:
Unearthly calm descended from the sky
And then their flesh and bones were strangely merged
Forever to be joined as one.
The two are now made one
Demi-god and nymph are now made one
 
Unearthly calm descended from the sky
And then their flesh and bones were strangely merged
Forever to be joined as one.
The two are now made one
Demi-god and nymph are now made one
Makes about as much sense as Virginia birth attended by angels. :dunno:
 
I didn't say biology itself was subjective, I said categorization was. And that's inherently true.

Well Princess itself is an imaginary title not a biological observation. No one is biologically a princess. Gendered clothing is subjective. For instance skirts are typically seen as feminine in our culture but not so much in Scottish. Trans identities do have evidence of biological observation through fMRI imagining of their brains. fMRI images of trans brains show a shift from their assigned gender at birth to their chosen one.

Brain Sex in Transgender Women Is Shifted towards Gender Identity

You've gone too far ahead. What is a biological female? Are you going by chromosomes? Hormone production? Reproductive capabilities? Genitalia?

The Myth Of Biological Sex

Many who oppose transgender rights believe that gender is determined solely by biological sex. But, biological sex isn’t as straightforward as they likely think, and there is no one parameter that makes a person biologically male or female. In fact, many conditions make assigning a biological sex quite difficult.

The biology of sex is real, but it’s extremely complicated, and there is sometimes no easy way to draw a line between the biologically male and female. According to the BBC documentary, Me, My Sex and I, “There are about a dozen different conditions that blur the line between male and female. They’re known as disorders of sexual development or DSDs…. Altogether, DSDs occur as frequently as twins or red hair.”

Most think chromosomes hold the key to biological sex, but that’s not always the case. Typically, those with two X chromosomes are considered biologically female and those with one X and one Y chromosome are considered biologically male. However, a DSD known as Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome (AIS) leads some to have an X and Y chromosome, but physically appear to be girls. Without genetic testing, babies with AIS are often assigned female sex at birth and are raised as girls. They may not realize they are not biologically female until they hit puberty and don’t begin to menstruate.

The presence or lack of a penis is often thought of as another clear indicator of biological sex, but that’s not a decisive way to divide the sexes either. Some individuals are born with ambiguous genitalia and are not clearly male or female in genital appearance at birth. In fact, research indicates that about 2% of the population is born with these ambiguous traits. Those born with congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH), for example, are chromosomally female but may have very masculinized genitalia. Despite the ambiguity, biological sex is often assigned to these individuals within a few days of birth.

When genitalia is ambiguous, doctors try to determine biological sex by examining many indicators. In addition to chromosomes, doctors will examine if the baby has ovaries or testes, and whether or not they have a womb. Doctors also look at the hormones being produced and try to guess how the baby’s genitals will develop. To complicate the process, the results from each of these tests may not be clearly male or female but could fall somewhere in between. A baby may have a womb and may also have testicles inside their body. Rather than take a “wait and see” approach, doctors often still feel compelled to choose one sex for the baby.

In elite athletics, testosterone is sometimes seen as the key to identifying who is permitted to participate as female. South-African runner Caster Semenya was assigned female at birth, raised as a girl and identifies as a woman. But Semenya has a DSD, and as a result, has XY chromosomes and very high testosterone levels. In 2019, new rules were instituted to keep women like Semenya from participating in certain events unless they take medication to lower their testosterone levels. Studies of testosterone levels in elite athletes show overlap between men and women, so it’s tough to use testosterone as criteria for who is biologically male and who is biologically female.

One of the reasons most of us are unaware of the ambiguity surrounding biological sex is that genitalia is something we don’t talk about openly. Clinical Psychologist, Aileen Schast, counseled parents who had given birth to children with DSDs and explained in a documentary how difficult it was for parents of a newborn whose sex was not clearly defined. “That early feeling of shame starts to develop. ‘This is something I can’t talk about. It has to do with genitalia, and we don’t talk about that. So, I can’t tell my sister and I can’t tell my friends at work,’” she described. Since few discuss these conditions, many don’t realize that they exist.

“What’s amazed me the most is that there is such a continuum from the male to the female, and it’s really hard to draw a line somewhere neatly in the middle,” Schast added. Biological sex, it turns out, is a lot like gender identity—not always male or female, but occasionally somewhere in between.



Well, it's all very trendy on the left to claim male and female are not categories of biological sex.
Notably, we see this in sports which has largely surrendered to the disease of leftism. Swimming is one example where the gender confused pit men against women. As expected, men such as Will Thomas are crushing speed and endurance records in women's sports. That is largely a function of biology that defines differences between male and female. Will Thomas was not competitive when swimming against his male peers. Now that he's pretending to be female, he is able to win swimming races.

I do understand the Dems / Socialists loathe the idea of gender but that is more indicative of the ignorance and superstition that seems to grip those in the politico-religious ideology of leftism.

Your insistence that biology is subjective and based on ''feelings'' is utterly contrived and contradicted by 60 million years of mammalian biology.
 
You're the one pushing hermaphrodites as being what this TRANS BULLSHIT is all about.
I'm not. You're confused or just unintelligent. Intersex and trans aren't the same thing but I am saying you shouldn't be surprised to find the same spectrum of identity that we find in biological sex. The brain is an organ like anything.
You're correct in saying IT DOES'T MAKE SENSE, you fucking half-wit dummy.
You posts don't make. Mine make perfect sense. That's the difference, dipshit.
 
I'm not. You're confused or just unintelligent. Intersex and trans aren't the same thing but I am saying you shouldn't be surprised to find the same spectrum of identity that we find in biological sex. The brain is an organ like anything.

You posts don't make. Mine make perfect sense. That's the difference, dipshit.

Ignoring biology means your cutting and pasting makes no sense,
 

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