Florida Gov. DeSantis Has Just Signed A Bill Into Law That Would Allow Everyday Floridians To Sue Big Tech Platforms For Monetary Damages


This forum is a perfect example of a PLATFORM. It does NOT censor speech, with the infrequent exception of when one calls for another to be murdered or for posting something pornographic, etc. Users here CAN and DO criticize masks, vaccines, etc.
Speech is quite free here in USMB. It should shine as an example to the other idiots out there (Political Jack, Political Hotwire, etc)
Nope, not free. There's a graveyard of posters who've been permanently banned.

And why were they permanently banned? For repeatedly breaking clearly stated rules?
You break the rules for not posting on topic all the time old man, so ban yourself

I have posted off topic, that much is true. But it was always in response to your comments. So if I wanted to be that strict about people posting off topic, I would ban you the first time you did it, instead of responding to it.
Should you have the right to post off topic then ban someone for answering your off topic post, if your babbles meant anything you would ban yourself.

Try actually responding to what I said.
LOL, you also might try responding to what I said, or do you believe that you are Zeus and everyone has to listen to you?

Should you have the right to post off topic then ban someone for answering your off topic post, if your babbles meant anything you would ban yourself.
 
Ain't it a great bill?
No really. I’m against bills that limit freedom of speech. Why do you support limiting freedom of speech? Not a fan of the constitution?
This bill does not limit speech, it allows for more speech. Something that irritates you.

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It limits the speech of Facebook and Twitter who are required to publish speech they don’t want to.

The freedom of speech also means the freedom not to speak.
Great huh, I can't wait until they break up Alphabet into more stocks for me
 

This forum is a perfect example of a PLATFORM. It does NOT censor speech, with the infrequent exception of when one calls for another to be murdered or for posting something pornographic, etc. Users here CAN and DO criticize masks, vaccines, etc.
Speech is quite free here in USMB. It should shine as an example to the other idiots out there (Political Jack, Political Hotwire, etc)
Nope, not free. There's a graveyard of posters who've been permanently banned.

And why were they permanently banned? For repeatedly breaking clearly stated rules?
You break the rules for not posting on topic all the time old man, so ban yourself

I have posted off topic, that much is true. But it was always in response to your comments. So if I wanted to be that strict about people posting off topic, I would ban you the first time you did it, instead of responding to it.
Should you have the right to post off topic then ban someone for answering your off topic post, if your babbles meant anything you would ban yourself.

Try actually responding to what I said.
LOL, you also might try responding to what I said, or do you believe that you are Zeus and everyone has to listen to you?

Should you have the right to post off topic then ban someone for answering your off topic post, if your babbles meant anything you would ban yourself.

Let me repost what I said so maybe you can understand.

"So if I wanted to be that strict about people posting off topic, I would ban you the first time you did it, instead of responding to it."
 
ocial media has a constitutional right to not publish. That is not being barred.
It sure is. The government is assigning fines if they don’t publish elected officials and subjecting them to civil liability for not publishing.

This bill has nothing to do with slander and libel.

It's not barring their right to NOT publish. They are not publishers, right? It is barring the "right" to stop users from publishing on the platform.

Unless you are admitting that social media is NOT a platform, but a publisher. That's what it looks like here.
Of course it’s a publisher. That’s not a question. They’ve always been publishers.

Someone “publishing” on their platform means that they’re publishers.
 
So you want freedom of speech restricted.
Restricting freedom of speech is exactly what this bill does.
Ain't it a great bill?

No, it isn't. It tries to meddle in the affairs of a private entity.
Nothing new there as the government already restricts what you can say. Try posting military plans here, or the video of Hunter Biden jerking off his own cock on the White House web page
 

This forum is a perfect example of a PLATFORM. It does NOT censor speech, with the infrequent exception of when one calls for another to be murdered or for posting something pornographic, etc. Users here CAN and DO criticize masks, vaccines, etc.
Speech is quite free here in USMB. It should shine as an example to the other idiots out there (Political Jack, Political Hotwire, etc)
Nope, not free. There's a graveyard of posters who've been permanently banned.

And why were they permanently banned? For repeatedly breaking clearly stated rules?
You break the rules for not posting on topic all the time old man, so ban yourself

I have posted off topic, that much is true. But it was always in response to your comments. So if I wanted to be that strict about people posting off topic, I would ban you the first time you did it, instead of responding to it.
Should you have the right to post off topic then ban someone for answering your off topic post, if your babbles meant anything you would ban yourself.

Try actually responding to what I said.
LOL, you also might try responding to what I said, or do you believe that you are Zeus and everyone has to listen to you?

Should you have the right to post off topic then ban someone for answering your off topic post, if your babbles meant anything you would ban yourself.

Let me repost what I said so maybe you can understand.

"So if I wanted to be that strict about people posting off topic, I would ban you the first time you did it, instead of responding to it."
I am free to respond to what you write without reading. So my comprehending what you write by skimming the first words is quite impossible. But I do want you to have purpose
 
Dumbass #14: How many of the rules are fascist coercion? Ridiculous: a snowlfake taking offense and calling it sexual harassment (currently in style), an example of opportunism looking for a scapegoat. Moderators getting off playing god, tell the prisoner whether they go to the left or to the right.
 
So you want freedom of speech restricted.
Restricting freedom of speech is exactly what this bill does.
Ain't it a great bill?

No, it isn't. It tries to meddle in the affairs of a private entity.
Nothing new there as the government already restricts what you can say. Try posting military plans here, or the video of Hunter Biden jerking off his own cock on the White House web page

So you agree with limitations or regulations on constitutional rights?
 
What if a user is censored despite not having broken the TOS?

There is nothing you can really do about that. I had one mod constantly lock my posts, move them to some other forum, or otherwise F with me. My choice is to leave here and go somewhere else, or just put up with it. Instead, I sent a complaint to USMB about the problem. They never replied (they never do) but it seemed to help matters. It could be they contacted the mod (I won't give the name) or it was coincidence.

I'm one of the few people here that donate money to this service so perhaps that helped as well, I don't know. Now that I'm thinking of it, I need to send them money for this year. Why not, I'm here quite a bit anyhow.
 
also we will see if the Courts say that the federal law doesn’t protect facebook and tweeter since they are in violation of it now that they are publishing content
They’ve always published content. The federal law says they don’t take on the liability of being a publisher. I know it’s confusing but that’s the truth.

State law can’t undo federal law.

This law doesn’t even attempt it. The damages come from Twitter and Facebook removing content. It lets people sue for damages incurred by not being able to use their service.
The federal law does not protect publishers. Sorry.
Section 230 protects “bulletin boards” - not publishers. We shall see when this law is litigated if the courts find facebook and tweeter has moved beyond their immunity protections
No. It protects publishers. If they weren’t moderating content, they’d have no need for protection in the first place.

Jesus, people really don’t understand this issue.
No, the law states they shouldn't be treated as the publishers

(1)Treatment of publisher or speaker
No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.

Jesus, people really don't understand the issue
 

This forum is a perfect example of a PLATFORM. It does NOT censor speech, with the infrequent exception of when one calls for another to be murdered or for posting something pornographic, etc. Users here CAN and DO criticize masks, vaccines, etc.
Speech is quite free here in USMB. It should shine as an example to the other idiots out there (Political Jack, Political Hotwire, etc)
Nope, not free. There's a graveyard of posters who've been permanently banned.

And why were they permanently banned? For repeatedly breaking clearly stated rules?
You break the rules for not posting on topic all the time old man, so ban yourself

I have posted off topic, that much is true. But it was always in response to your comments. So if I wanted to be that strict about people posting off topic, I would ban you the first time you did it, instead of responding to it.
Should you have the right to post off topic then ban someone for answering your off topic post, if your babbles meant anything you would ban yourself.

Try actually responding to what I said.
LOL, you also might try responding to what I said, or do you believe that you are Zeus and everyone has to listen to you?

Should you have the right to post off topic then ban someone for answering your off topic post, if your babbles meant anything you would ban yourself.

Let me repost what I said so maybe you can understand.

"So if I wanted to be that strict about people posting off topic, I would ban you the first time you did it, instead of responding to it."
I am free to respond to what you write without reading. So my comprehending what you write by skimming the first words is quite impossible. But I do want you to have purpose

Indeed you are free to respond to what I write without reading it. I am just kind enough to try to lead you back to reality.
 
Section 230 protects “bulletin boards” - not publishers. We shall see when this law is litigated if the courts find facebook and tweeter has moved beyond their immunity protections
No. It protects publishers. If they weren’t moderating content, they’d have no need for protection in the first place.

Jesus, people really don’t understand this issue.
Section 230 protects "providers" from liability for the content provided by "content providers." It also provides a civil liability protection for action taken "in good faith" to remove "obscene" content.

HB7072 gives Floridians a cause of action for social media's unfair content moderation or lack of transparency in their content moderation policies.

That's not in conflict with Section 230. It's requiring social media to prove they are acting in good faith.
 
So you want freedom of speech restricted.
Restricting freedom of speech is exactly what this bill does.
Ain't it a great bill?

No, it isn't. It tries to meddle in the affairs of a private entity.
Nothing new there as the government already restricts what you can say. Try posting military plans here, or the video of Hunter Biden jerking off his own cock on the White House web page

So you agree with limitations or regulations on constitutional rights?
When constitutional rights allow for idiots to get elected and rewrite the constitution then the constitution is a farce.

See you actually have no rights, you never did or do. This is what the people of color figured out and they are technically correct
 
ocial media has a constitutional right to not publish. That is not being barred.
It sure is. The government is assigning fines if they don’t publish elected officials and subjecting them to civil liability for not publishing.

This bill has nothing to do with slander and libel.

It's not barring their right to NOT publish. They are not publishers, right? It is barring the "right" to stop users from publishing on the platform.

Unless you are admitting that social media is NOT a platform, but a publisher. That's what it looks like here.
Of course it’s a publisher. That’s not a question. They’ve always been publishers.

Someone “publishing” on their platform means that they’re publishers.
Then, they are not an interactive computer service, and therefore are not entitled to protection. They are information content providers.

(2)Interactive computer service
The term “interactive computer service” means any information service, system, or access software provider that provides or enables computer access by multiple users to a computer server, including specifically a service or system that provides access to the Internet and such systems operated or services offered by libraries or educational institutions.

(3)Information content provider
The term “information content provider” means any person or entity that is responsible, in whole or in part, for the creation or development of information provided through the Internet or any other interactive computer service.
 

This forum is a perfect example of a PLATFORM. It does NOT censor speech, with the infrequent exception of when one calls for another to be murdered or for posting something pornographic, etc. Users here CAN and DO criticize masks, vaccines, etc.
Speech is quite free here in USMB. It should shine as an example to the other idiots out there (Political Jack, Political Hotwire, etc)
Nope, not free. There's a graveyard of posters who've been permanently banned.

And why were they permanently banned? For repeatedly breaking clearly stated rules?
You break the rules for not posting on topic all the time old man, so ban yourself

I have posted off topic, that much is true. But it was always in response to your comments. So if I wanted to be that strict about people posting off topic, I would ban you the first time you did it, instead of responding to it.
Should you have the right to post off topic then ban someone for answering your off topic post, if your babbles meant anything you would ban yourself.

Try actually responding to what I said.
LOL, you also might try responding to what I said, or do you believe that you are Zeus and everyone has to listen to you?

Should you have the right to post off topic then ban someone for answering your off topic post, if your babbles meant anything you would ban yourself.

Let me repost what I said so maybe you can understand.

"So if I wanted to be that strict about people posting off topic, I would ban you the first time you did it, instead of responding to it."
I am free to respond to what you write without reading. So my comprehending what you write by skimming the first words is quite impossible. But I do want you to have purpose

Indeed you are free to respond to what I write without reading it. I am just kind enough to try to lead you back to reality.
Reality is that one of my Cannabis stocks and Alphabet gained 3 percent yesterday. So what is your reality
 
So you want freedom of speech restricted.
Restricting freedom of speech is exactly what this bill does.
Ain't it a great bill?

No, it isn't. It tries to meddle in the affairs of a private entity.
Nothing new there as the government already restricts what you can say. Try posting military plans here, or the video of Hunter Biden jerking off his own cock on the White House web page

So you agree with limitations or regulations on constitutional rights?
When constitutional rights allow for idiots to get elected and rewrite the constitution then the constitution is a farce.

See you actually have no rights, you never did or do. This is what the people of color figured out and they are technically correct

So you think an individual can rewrite the US Constitution?
 

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