Fox News Sunday Anchors Upset About Obama's Job Growth:

Yeah for Obambam. he's a rip roaring success. well a few still falls at feet and will spin for him:rolleyes-41:

SNIP:

Obama’s lousy new normal: Job growth disappoints yet again
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By Herman Cain -- Bio and Archives October 5, 2015


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One of the biggest wastes of time imaginable is to read news stories about what’s expected in upcoming economic reports. Late last week, we were regaled with stories about how economists were expecting news of robust job growth, and how this would be followed by serious consideration on the part of the Federal Reserve Board to finally raise interest rates—which have been kept artificially low for years in the hope of spurring job growth.

But as is so often the case, the reality didn’t meet the expectations. Job growth stumbled again, with only 142,000 nonfarm jobs added to payrolls in September. And that follows an August that was even worse, at just 136,000. We’re not even adding enough jobs to keep up with the growth in population, which means that glorious 5.1 percent unemployment rate you keep hearing about is only because so many people are leaving the workforce and no longer being counted.

Some folks are trying to blame China’s economic problems for this, just like they’ve tried to blame George W. Bush, cold weather and whatever else they can come up with. Outside forces will always play some sort of role in your economic performance, but the fact remains that a fundamentally strong economy is going to do well over the long term. The Obama economy has consistently given us sluggish job growth and annual GDP growth of barely 2.0 percent.

And it’s not hard to see why: Higher taxes, heavier regulation, intervention in health care markets, hostility toward businesses by the NLRB, EPA, IRS and others . . . and of course, the administration’s refusal to embrace domestic energy exploration on federally controlled lands, which combined with Obama’s war on coal adds up to higher and higher energy costs and an overall higher cost of doing business.

Take it from someone who has run multiple businesses: No one feels confident about adding to their payrolls in an environment like this. You never know if the federal government is going to do something to stomp out economic momentum or punish you for a run of success.

all of it here:
Obama’s lousy new normal: Job growth disappoints yet again

Record Corp profits, lowest sustained tax "burden" on the "job creators" since before Harding/Coolidge's great depression, lowest Corp tax burden in 40 years, lowest labor costs EVER

corporate-profits-and-wages.jpg



Tell us some more about the job killing regulations.


"Corporate profits" are usually associated with large businesses.

President Obama has said that “small businesses have always formed the backbone of the American economy.
So taking him at his word... Why then is his administration so willing to destroy them???
“You, there: stop complaining and start hiring!”

That is essentially the Obama administration’s message to businesses. This is an administration that seems to believe that $1 million spent on pollution control will create more than 1.5 net jobs. Who comes up with such numbers?

These entrepreneurial pioneers embody the spirit of possibility, the tireless work ethic, and the simple hope for something better that lies at the heart of the American ideal.”
But the rate of growth for regulatory restrictions was approximately 38 percent larger for the Obama administration between 2009 and 2012 as it was during a similar number of years for President George W. Bush (2001 to 2004).
Restrictions are actual regulatory requirements telling business what they “must’ or “shall” do. But, of course, these are just additions to regulatory restrictions that have been piling up since the 1870’s and now number more than 1 million. And yet Obama, more than any other president, has made decreasing the overall regulatory burden a high priority, issuing a specific executive order to require agencies to decrease the enormous volume of regulations.
As for new regulations that are crushing small businesses, the evidence is everywhere.
A recent survey of small banks conducted by the Mercatus Center at George Mason found that "many respondents expressed frustration at how the rules would affect their ability to continue offering customers products that had worked well for both the bank and the customers.”
These small banks talk of the implementation of the Dodd-Frank financial reform law of 2010 as a “maddening pace of illogical and unnecessary regulation” that would not have prevented the 2008 financial collapse
How Obama Is Keeping Small Businesses Down

Again I'm not saying it "small businesses" are the ones that have lower revenue to hire people to keep up with the rules and regulations.

A simple perusal of the Federal Register shows over 430 rules costing over $65 billion so far this year alone, let alone the entire Crain universe of rules, which stops at 2008. As the Crains note, regulatory costs are often “indirect,” compared with direct taxation.
Significantly, they also note that the “totality” of rules under $99 million are not reviewed by OIRA. That is important because “major” rules — those estimated to cost $100 million or more — comprise likely less than 10% of the regulatory pipeline at any given time. Thus, a rule that is not considered “major” could still impose significant costs in real-world terms.
 
9 trillion in debt under O. Worst buffoon to ever lead this country.

As I will do EACH AND overtime you idiot FFOs make statements like above... I will share the FACTS! The History that will show future historians that Bush will be considered a "great" President that FACED events that NO other President had thrust on him during his terms.

Recession
1) Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Source: USATODAY.com - It's official: 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $5 trillion market loss
2) Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $5 trillion in losses?
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 - and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
3)Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets. Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: 10 Events That Rocked the Financial World
Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.

4) $1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters | Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of :
a) 400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts...
In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property.. IN SPITE of that:

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
Government Revenue Details: Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts

2000 $236.2 billion surplus
2001 $128.2 billion surplus
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

So how did those 4 gigantic events affect the Gross Domestic Product from 2000 to 2009?



Liar, tarp first was f/y 2009, Dubya';s last year and it was only $159 billion in 2009, Obama had to eat the rest

To bad Dubya didn't have like dozens of warnings on 9/11 and Katrina right?



Bush Economic Adviser Viard: "Federal Revenue Is Lower Today Than It Would Have Been Without The Tax Cuts."


Bush CEA Chair Mankiw: Claim That Broad-Based Income Tax Cuts Increase Revenue Is Not "Credible," Capital Income Tax Cuts Also Don't Pay For Themselves

Bush-Appointed Federal Reserve Chair Bernanke: "I Don't Think That As A General Rule Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."


Bush Treasury Secretary Paulson: "As A General Rule, I Don't Believe That Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."

Bush OMB Director Nussle: "Some Say That [The Tax Cut] Was A Total Loss. Some Say They Totally Pay For Themselves. It's Neither Extreme."


Bush CEA Chairman Lazear: "As A General Rule, We Do Not Think Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."



Bush Economic Adviser Viard: "Federal Revenue Is Lower Today Than It Would Have Been Without The Tax Cuts."


Bush Treasury Official Carroll: "We Do Not Think Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."


Reagan Chief Economist Feldstein: "It's Not That You Get More Revenue By Lowering Tax Rates, It Is That You Don't Lose As Much."

Feldstein In 1986: "Hyperbole" That Reagan Tax Cut "Would Actually Increase Tax Revenue."

Conservative Economist Holtz-Eakin: "No Serious Research Evidence" Suggests Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."

Tax Foundation's Prante: "A Stretch" To Claim "Cutting Capital Gains Taxes Raises Tax Revenues."

Bush Economic Adviser Samwick: "Tax Cuts Have Not Fueled Record Revenues." In a January 2007 blog post titled, "New Year's Plea," Andrew Samwick, former chief economist for George W. Bush's Council on Economic Advisers, wrote:

You [in the Bush administration] are smart people. You know that the tax cuts have not fueled record revenues. You know what it takes to establish causality. You know that the first order effect of cutting taxes is to lower tax revenues. We all agree that the ultimate reduction in tax revenues can be less than this first order effect, because lower tax rates encourage greater economic activity and thus expand the tax base. No thoughtful person believes that this possible offset more than compensated for the first effect for these tax cuts. Not a single one.



Vox Baby: A New Year's Plea

You wrote: Liar, tarp first was f/y 2009, Dubya';s last year and it was only $159 billion in 2009, Obama had to eat the rest"
Explain this then if TARP was so bad???
It actually ADDED revenue to Obama's revenue from 2009,10,etc.
In spite of which Obama has ADDED to the Federal Debt.. in spite of TARP paying back and making a profit... again thanks to GWB!!!
Since Obama Took Office, the Federal Debt Has Increased by Almost 70 Percent

TARP092415.png
 
Yeah for Obambam. he's a rip roaring success. well a few still falls at feet and will spin for him:rolleyes-41:

SNIP:

Obama’s lousy new normal: Job growth disappoints yet again
photo_834.jpg
By Herman Cain -- Bio and Archives October 5, 2015


CAIN100515.jpg
One of the biggest wastes of time imaginable is to read news stories about what’s expected in upcoming economic reports. Late last week, we were regaled with stories about how economists were expecting news of robust job growth, and how this would be followed by serious consideration on the part of the Federal Reserve Board to finally raise interest rates—which have been kept artificially low for years in the hope of spurring job growth.

But as is so often the case, the reality didn’t meet the expectations. Job growth stumbled again, with only 142,000 nonfarm jobs added to payrolls in September. And that follows an August that was even worse, at just 136,000. We’re not even adding enough jobs to keep up with the growth in population, which means that glorious 5.1 percent unemployment rate you keep hearing about is only because so many people are leaving the workforce and no longer being counted.

Some folks are trying to blame China’s economic problems for this, just like they’ve tried to blame George W. Bush, cold weather and whatever else they can come up with. Outside forces will always play some sort of role in your economic performance, but the fact remains that a fundamentally strong economy is going to do well over the long term. The Obama economy has consistently given us sluggish job growth and annual GDP growth of barely 2.0 percent.

And it’s not hard to see why: Higher taxes, heavier regulation, intervention in health care markets, hostility toward businesses by the NLRB, EPA, IRS and others . . . and of course, the administration’s refusal to embrace domestic energy exploration on federally controlled lands, which combined with Obama’s war on coal adds up to higher and higher energy costs and an overall higher cost of doing business.

Take it from someone who has run multiple businesses: No one feels confident about adding to their payrolls in an environment like this. You never know if the federal government is going to do something to stomp out economic momentum or punish you for a run of success.

all of it here:
Obama’s lousy new normal: Job growth disappoints yet again

Record Corp profits, lowest sustained tax "burden" on the "job creators" since before Harding/Coolidge's great depression, lowest Corp tax burden in 40 years, lowest labor costs EVER

corporate-profits-and-wages.jpg



Tell us some more about the job killing regulations.


"Corporate profits" are usually associated with large businesses.

President Obama has said that “small businesses have always formed the backbone of the American economy.
So taking him at his word... Why then is his administration so willing to destroy them???
“You, there: stop complaining and start hiring!”

That is essentially the Obama administration’s message to businesses. This is an administration that seems to believe that $1 million spent on pollution control will create more than 1.5 net jobs. Who comes up with such numbers?

These entrepreneurial pioneers embody the spirit of possibility, the tireless work ethic, and the simple hope for something better that lies at the heart of the American ideal.”
But the rate of growth for regulatory restrictions was approximately 38 percent larger for the Obama administration between 2009 and 2012 as it was during a similar number of years for President George W. Bush (2001 to 2004).
Restrictions are actual regulatory requirements telling business what they “must’ or “shall” do. But, of course, these are just additions to regulatory restrictions that have been piling up since the 1870’s and now number more than 1 million. And yet Obama, more than any other president, has made decreasing the overall regulatory burden a high priority, issuing a specific executive order to require agencies to decrease the enormous volume of regulations.
As for new regulations that are crushing small businesses, the evidence is everywhere.
A recent survey of small banks conducted by the Mercatus Center at George Mason found that "many respondents expressed frustration at how the rules would affect their ability to continue offering customers products that had worked well for both the bank and the customers.”
These small banks talk of the implementation of the Dodd-Frank financial reform law of 2010 as a “maddening pace of illogical and unnecessary regulation” that would not have prevented the 2008 financial collapse
How Obama Is Keeping Small Businesses Down

Again I'm not saying it "small businesses" are the ones that have lower revenue to hire people to keep up with the rules and regulations.

A simple perusal of the Federal Register shows over 430 rules costing over $65 billion so far this year alone, let alone the entire Crain universe of rules, which stops at 2008. As the Crains note, regulatory costs are often “indirect,” compared with direct taxation.
Significantly, they also note that the “totality” of rules under $99 million are not reviewed by OIRA. That is important because “major” rules — those estimated to cost $100 million or more — comprise likely less than 10% of the regulatory pipeline at any given time. Thus, a rule that is not considered “major” could still impose significant costs in real-world terms.


MORE OF YOUR RIGHT WING BULLSHIT NOT BASED IN REALITY. Shocking

Corps are responsible for 40% of US jobs (100+ employees)

The "job creator" has the lowest t sustained tax burden since 1932!

UPDATE YOUR BS TALKING POINTS
 
9 trillion in debt under O. Worst buffoon to ever lead this country.

As I will do EACH AND overtime you idiot FFOs make statements like above... I will share the FACTS! The History that will show future historians that Bush will be considered a "great" President that FACED events that NO other President had thrust on him during his terms.

Recession
1) Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Source: USATODAY.com - It's official: 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $5 trillion market loss
2) Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $5 trillion in losses?
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 - and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
3)Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets. Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: 10 Events That Rocked the Financial World
Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.

4) $1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters | Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of :
a) 400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts...
In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property.. IN SPITE of that:

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
Government Revenue Details: Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts

2000 $236.2 billion surplus
2001 $128.2 billion surplus
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

So how did those 4 gigantic events affect the Gross Domestic Product from 2000 to 2009?



Liar, tarp first was f/y 2009, Dubya';s last year and it was only $159 billion in 2009, Obama had to eat the rest

To bad Dubya didn't have like dozens of warnings on 9/11 and Katrina right?



Bush Economic Adviser Viard: "Federal Revenue Is Lower Today Than It Would Have Been Without The Tax Cuts."


Bush CEA Chair Mankiw: Claim That Broad-Based Income Tax Cuts Increase Revenue Is Not "Credible," Capital Income Tax Cuts Also Don't Pay For Themselves

Bush-Appointed Federal Reserve Chair Bernanke: "I Don't Think That As A General Rule Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."


Bush Treasury Secretary Paulson: "As A General Rule, I Don't Believe That Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."

Bush OMB Director Nussle: "Some Say That [The Tax Cut] Was A Total Loss. Some Say They Totally Pay For Themselves. It's Neither Extreme."


Bush CEA Chairman Lazear: "As A General Rule, We Do Not Think Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."



Bush Economic Adviser Viard: "Federal Revenue Is Lower Today Than It Would Have Been Without The Tax Cuts."


Bush Treasury Official Carroll: "We Do Not Think Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."


Reagan Chief Economist Feldstein: "It's Not That You Get More Revenue By Lowering Tax Rates, It Is That You Don't Lose As Much."

Feldstein In 1986: "Hyperbole" That Reagan Tax Cut "Would Actually Increase Tax Revenue."

Conservative Economist Holtz-Eakin: "No Serious Research Evidence" Suggests Tax Cuts Pay For Themselves."

Tax Foundation's Prante: "A Stretch" To Claim "Cutting Capital Gains Taxes Raises Tax Revenues."

Bush Economic Adviser Samwick: "Tax Cuts Have Not Fueled Record Revenues." In a January 2007 blog post titled, "New Year's Plea," Andrew Samwick, former chief economist for George W. Bush's Council on Economic Advisers, wrote:

You [in the Bush administration] are smart people. You know that the tax cuts have not fueled record revenues. You know what it takes to establish causality. You know that the first order effect of cutting taxes is to lower tax revenues. We all agree that the ultimate reduction in tax revenues can be less than this first order effect, because lower tax rates encourage greater economic activity and thus expand the tax base. No thoughtful person believes that this possible offset more than compensated for the first effect for these tax cuts. Not a single one.



Vox Baby: A New Year's Plea

You wrote: Liar, tarp first was f/y 2009, Dubya';s last year and it was only $159 billion in 2009, Obama had to eat the rest"
Explain this then if TARP was so bad???
It actually ADDED revenue to Obama's revenue from 2009,10,etc.
In spite of which Obama has ADDED to the Federal Debt.. in spite of TARP paying back and making a profit... again thanks to GWB!!!
Since Obama Took Office, the Federal Debt Has Increased by Almost 70 Percent

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Nope Bubba, DUBYA had the 2009 F/Y budget. True the $475 billion TARP was paid back, CONservatives LOVE socialism to save Biz but HATE it for the rest of US

Oh right, Dubya gets "credit" BECAUSE TARP was paid back, but not for creating the circumstances for needing it?? lol

How about giving Dubya "credit' for OTHER POLICIES he left Obama, UNFUNDED WARS, UNFUNDED TAX CUTS, UNFUNDED MEDICARE EXPANSION, THE RESULTS OF HIS "HOME OWNERSHIP" SOCIETY PONZI SCHEME?
 
You are free to believe any crazy conspiracy theory you want, but when you say it in public, you should expect people to call you crazy.

No, if I go to the mall today and yell out that our govt is corrupt free and never tells lies, I'll be laughed to death.


You being laughed at is hardly unusual.
Stupid responses such as that only indicate that you have lost the argument. That you are desperate for attention.


I'm not the one planning to yell stupid shit at the mall. Only crazies do that.


Neither am I. I was illustrating a point and you failed to even grasp that.


You were trying to illustrate a point and failed miserably.
 
everybody should be upset about obama's "job growth". First of all it's almost non-existant when you account for the millions that have dropped out of the job market altogether and arent even being counted as unemployed.
Second, more than 13 MILLION MORE are on food stamps under obam IN HIS SEVENTH YEAR, then there were under Bush and Republicans. THIS is the job growth Progressives are bragging about.................................jobs that pay so little you can still collect food stamps????????????????????????????
 
obama spent $253 BILLION that was added to the "Bush" 2009 budget deficit


idiots and hypocrites
 
Yeah for Obambam. he's a rip roaring success. well a few still falls at feet and will spin for him:rolleyes-41:

SNIP:

Obama’s lousy new normal: Job growth disappoints yet again
photo_834.jpg
By Herman Cain -- Bio and Archives October 5, 2015


CAIN100515.jpg
One of the biggest wastes of time imaginable is to read news stories about what’s expected in upcoming economic reports. Late last week, we were regaled with stories about how economists were expecting news of robust job growth, and how this would be followed by serious consideration on the part of the Federal Reserve Board to finally raise interest rates—which have been kept artificially low for years in the hope of spurring job growth.

But as is so often the case, the reality didn’t meet the expectations. Job growth stumbled again, with only 142,000 nonfarm jobs added to payrolls in September. And that follows an August that was even worse, at just 136,000. We’re not even adding enough jobs to keep up with the growth in population, which means that glorious 5.1 percent unemployment rate you keep hearing about is only because so many people are leaving the workforce and no longer being counted.

Some folks are trying to blame China’s economic problems for this, just like they’ve tried to blame George W. Bush, cold weather and whatever else they can come up with. Outside forces will always play some sort of role in your economic performance, but the fact remains that a fundamentally strong economy is going to do well over the long term. The Obama economy has consistently given us sluggish job growth and annual GDP growth of barely 2.0 percent.

And it’s not hard to see why: Higher taxes, heavier regulation, intervention in health care markets, hostility toward businesses by the NLRB, EPA, IRS and others . . . and of course, the administration’s refusal to embrace domestic energy exploration on federally controlled lands, which combined with Obama’s war on coal adds up to higher and higher energy costs and an overall higher cost of doing business.

Take it from someone who has run multiple businesses: No one feels confident about adding to their payrolls in an environment like this. You never know if the federal government is going to do something to stomp out economic momentum or punish you for a run of success.

all of it here:
Obama’s lousy new normal: Job growth disappoints yet again

Record Corp profits, lowest sustained tax "burden" on the "job creators" since before Harding/Coolidge's great depression, lowest Corp tax burden in 40 years, lowest labor costs EVER

corporate-profits-and-wages.jpg



Tell us some more about the job killing regulations.


"Corporate profits" are usually associated with large businesses.

President Obama has said that “small businesses have always formed the backbone of the American economy.
So taking him at his word... Why then is his administration so willing to destroy them???
“You, there: stop complaining and start hiring!”

That is essentially the Obama administration’s message to businesses. This is an administration that seems to believe that $1 million spent on pollution control will create more than 1.5 net jobs. Who comes up with such numbers?

These entrepreneurial pioneers embody the spirit of possibility, the tireless work ethic, and the simple hope for something better that lies at the heart of the American ideal.”
But the rate of growth for regulatory restrictions was approximately 38 percent larger for the Obama administration between 2009 and 2012 as it was during a similar number of years for President George W. Bush (2001 to 2004).
Restrictions are actual regulatory requirements telling business what they “must’ or “shall” do. But, of course, these are just additions to regulatory restrictions that have been piling up since the 1870’s and now number more than 1 million. And yet Obama, more than any other president, has made decreasing the overall regulatory burden a high priority, issuing a specific executive order to require agencies to decrease the enormous volume of regulations.
As for new regulations that are crushing small businesses, the evidence is everywhere.
A recent survey of small banks conducted by the Mercatus Center at George Mason found that "many respondents expressed frustration at how the rules would affect their ability to continue offering customers products that had worked well for both the bank and the customers.”
These small banks talk of the implementation of the Dodd-Frank financial reform law of 2010 as a “maddening pace of illogical and unnecessary regulation” that would not have prevented the 2008 financial collapse
How Obama Is Keeping Small Businesses Down

Again I'm not saying it "small businesses" are the ones that have lower revenue to hire people to keep up with the rules and regulations.

A simple perusal of the Federal Register shows over 430 rules costing over $65 billion so far this year alone, let alone the entire Crain universe of rules, which stops at 2008. As the Crains note, regulatory costs are often “indirect,” compared with direct taxation.
Significantly, they also note that the “totality” of rules under $99 million are not reviewed by OIRA. That is important because “major” rules — those estimated to cost $100 million or more — comprise likely less than 10% of the regulatory pipeline at any given time. Thus, a rule that is not considered “major” could still impose significant costs in real-world terms.


MORE OF YOUR RIGHT WING BULLSHIT NOT BASED IN REALITY. Shocking

Corps are responsible for 40% of US jobs (100+ employees)

The "job creator" has the lowest t sustained tax burden since 1932!

UPDATE YOUR BS TALKING POINTS


We all know that you hate america and small business owners.
 
No, if I go to the mall today and yell out that our govt is corrupt free and never tells lies, I'll be laughed to death.


You being laughed at is hardly unusual.
Stupid responses such as that only indicate that you have lost the argument. That you are desperate for attention.


I'm not the one planning to yell stupid shit at the mall. Only crazies do that.


Neither am I. I was illustrating a point and you failed to even grasp that.


You were trying to illustrate a point and failed miserably.


You're comprehension skills are still failing. Lol. Not surprising.
 
I must give credit to Dad2three. He defends his stated positions with links, data, pictures, stories. He is high energy and has given me pause at times. It is entirely possible not all of my shoot from hip posted statements are 100% correct at all times (gulp). I admire his determination. We are 7 years into BHO...
Just make sure he charges 2016 Fiscal year deficit to BHO where it belongs, not to Trump. LOL!
 
I must give credit to Dad2three. He defends his stated positions with links, data, pictures, stories. He is high energy and has given me pause at times. It is entirely possible not all of my shoot from hip posted statements are 100% correct at all times (gulp). I admire his determination. We are 7 years into BHO...
Just make sure he charges 2016 Fiscal year deficit to BHO where it belongs, not to Trump. LOL!

Thanks, I give credit AND blame where they belong, ALWAYS

Obama is the second best conservative Prez since Ike, only BJ Bill beats him.

He's WAYYYY to conservative for me: See the TPP, caving to GOP blackmail in 2010 to not increase taxes on the top 2% settling for .08%, not saying no to Keystone already, not going after the Banksters after Dubya's subprime bubble, etc. But at least he got US back to where Reagan gutted taxes to, 17%+ of the GDP in revenues, that's how he is second best fiscally conservative Prez since Ike too!

I measure people by how you handled the shit you are handed, and Dubya handed him a steaming pile of shit and the GOPers made sure he didn't have a fire extinguisher or a place to bury it!
 
Yeah for Obambam. he's a rip roaring success. well a few still falls at feet and will spin for him:rolleyes-41:

SNIP:

Obama’s lousy new normal: Job growth disappoints yet again
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By Herman Cain -- Bio and Archives October 5, 2015


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One of the biggest wastes of time imaginable is to read news stories about what’s expected in upcoming economic reports. Late last week, we were regaled with stories about how economists were expecting news of robust job growth, and how this would be followed by serious consideration on the part of the Federal Reserve Board to finally raise interest rates—which have been kept artificially low for years in the hope of spurring job growth.

But as is so often the case, the reality didn’t meet the expectations. Job growth stumbled again, with only 142,000 nonfarm jobs added to payrolls in September. And that follows an August that was even worse, at just 136,000. We’re not even adding enough jobs to keep up with the growth in population, which means that glorious 5.1 percent unemployment rate you keep hearing about is only because so many people are leaving the workforce and no longer being counted.

Some folks are trying to blame China’s economic problems for this, just like they’ve tried to blame George W. Bush, cold weather and whatever else they can come up with. Outside forces will always play some sort of role in your economic performance, but the fact remains that a fundamentally strong economy is going to do well over the long term. The Obama economy has consistently given us sluggish job growth and annual GDP growth of barely 2.0 percent.

And it’s not hard to see why: Higher taxes, heavier regulation, intervention in health care markets, hostility toward businesses by the NLRB, EPA, IRS and others . . . and of course, the administration’s refusal to embrace domestic energy exploration on federally controlled lands, which combined with Obama’s war on coal adds up to higher and higher energy costs and an overall higher cost of doing business.

Take it from someone who has run multiple businesses: No one feels confident about adding to their payrolls in an environment like this. You never know if the federal government is going to do something to stomp out economic momentum or punish you for a run of success.

all of it here:
Obama’s lousy new normal: Job growth disappoints yet again

Record Corp profits, lowest sustained tax "burden" on the "job creators" since before Harding/Coolidge's great depression, lowest Corp tax burden in 40 years, lowest labor costs EVER

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Tell us some more about the job killing regulations.


"Corporate profits" are usually associated with large businesses.

President Obama has said that “small businesses have always formed the backbone of the American economy.
So taking him at his word... Why then is his administration so willing to destroy them???
“You, there: stop complaining and start hiring!”

That is essentially the Obama administration’s message to businesses. This is an administration that seems to believe that $1 million spent on pollution control will create more than 1.5 net jobs. Who comes up with such numbers?

These entrepreneurial pioneers embody the spirit of possibility, the tireless work ethic, and the simple hope for something better that lies at the heart of the American ideal.”
But the rate of growth for regulatory restrictions was approximately 38 percent larger for the Obama administration between 2009 and 2012 as it was during a similar number of years for President George W. Bush (2001 to 2004).
Restrictions are actual regulatory requirements telling business what they “must’ or “shall” do. But, of course, these are just additions to regulatory restrictions that have been piling up since the 1870’s and now number more than 1 million. And yet Obama, more than any other president, has made decreasing the overall regulatory burden a high priority, issuing a specific executive order to require agencies to decrease the enormous volume of regulations.
As for new regulations that are crushing small businesses, the evidence is everywhere.
A recent survey of small banks conducted by the Mercatus Center at George Mason found that "many respondents expressed frustration at how the rules would affect their ability to continue offering customers products that had worked well for both the bank and the customers.”
These small banks talk of the implementation of the Dodd-Frank financial reform law of 2010 as a “maddening pace of illogical and unnecessary regulation” that would not have prevented the 2008 financial collapse
How Obama Is Keeping Small Businesses Down

Again I'm not saying it "small businesses" are the ones that have lower revenue to hire people to keep up with the rules and regulations.

A simple perusal of the Federal Register shows over 430 rules costing over $65 billion so far this year alone, let alone the entire Crain universe of rules, which stops at 2008. As the Crains note, regulatory costs are often “indirect,” compared with direct taxation.
Significantly, they also note that the “totality” of rules under $99 million are not reviewed by OIRA. That is important because “major” rules — those estimated to cost $100 million or more — comprise likely less than 10% of the regulatory pipeline at any given time. Thus, a rule that is not considered “major” could still impose significant costs in real-world terms.


MORE OF YOUR RIGHT WING BULLSHIT NOT BASED IN REALITY. Shocking

Corps are responsible for 40% of US jobs (100+ employees)

The "job creator" has the lowest t sustained tax burden since 1932!

UPDATE YOUR BS TALKING POINTS


We all know that you hate america and small business owners.


Fetuses and puppies too Bubba :ahole-1:
 
I must give credit to Dad2three. He defends his stated positions with links, data, pictures, stories. He is high energy and has given me pause at times. It is entirely possible not all of my shoot from hip posted statements are 100% correct at all times (gulp). I admire his determination. We are 7 years into BHO...
Just make sure he charges 2016 Fiscal year deficit to BHO where it belongs, not to Trump. LOL!

Thanks, I give credit AND blame where they belong, ALWAYS

Obama is the second best conservative Prez since Ike, only BJ Bill beats him.

He's WAYYYY to conservative for me: See the TPP, caving to GOP blackmail in 2010 to not increase taxes on the top 2% settling for .08%, not saying no to Keystone already, not going after the Banksters after Dubya's subprime bubble, etc. But at least he got US back to where Reagan gutted taxes to, 17%+ of the GDP in revenues, that's how he is second best fiscally conservative Prez since Ike too!

I measure people by how you handled the shit you are handed, and Dubya handed him a steaming pile of shit and the GOPers made sure he didn't have a fire extinguisher or a place to bury it!

you're a complete idiot and everybody knows it.obama "handled" what he was given by increasing food stamps by 13 MILLION MORE IN HIS SEVENTH YEAR than there were when Bush was President.

and when you rant like the crybaby you are about what was "handed" to whom you conveniently ALWAYS leave out the FACT that DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE POLICIES YOU PLACE SQUARELY AT THE FEET OF BUSH


THAT'S why you're a joke. I don't take you seriously at all
 
Just a little note about the thread title Fox News Sunday only has one anchor Chris Wallace not anchors.
 
you're a complete idiot and everybody knows it.obama "handled" what he was given by increasing food stamps by 13 MILLION MORE IN HIS SEVENTH YEAR than there were when Bush was President.
And Bush added more than 13 million to the food stamp rolls.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/05/12/benefits-food-stamps-fewer/27175881/

In a further sign of the improving economy, the number of Americans receiving food stamps fell below 46 million people for the first time in more than three years.

As of February 2015, the most recent month available, 45.7 million people are receiving food stamps, according to data released Tuesday by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP).

The main reason for the decrease is the improving economy, says Dorothy Rosenbaum, a senior fellow at the Center on Budget and Policies Priorities, a Washington think tank that advocates for the poor.

During the recession, when unemployment was high, the number of people eligible for food stamps increased. The federal government pumped more money into the program to increase the maximum benefit.

The program "responded as it was designed to, by expanding with an increase in need," Rosenbaum says.

As the economy has improved, the rolls of those receiving SNAP benefits has been slowly but steadily shrinking.
 
you're a complete idiot and everybody knows it.obama "handled" what he was given by increasing food stamps by 13 MILLION MORE IN HIS SEVENTH YEAR than there were when Bush was President.
And Bush added more than 13 million to the food stamp rolls.

Fewer Americans receiving food stamps

In a further sign of the improving economy, the number of Americans receiving food stamps fell below 46 million people for the first time in more than three years.

As of February 2015, the most recent month available, 45.7 million people are receiving food stamps, according to data released Tuesday by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP).

The main reason for the decrease is the improving economy, says Dorothy Rosenbaum, a senior fellow at the Center on Budget and Policies Priorities, a Washington think tank that advocates for the poor.

During the recession, when unemployment was high, the number of people eligible for food stamps increased. The federal government pumped more money into the program to increase the maximum benefit.

The program "responded as it was designed to, by expanding with an increase in need," Rosenbaum says.

As the economy has improved, the rolls of those receiving SNAP benefits has been slowly but steadily shrinking.

this is why nobody takes you idiots seriously. when I mentioned Obama added 13 million to the food stamps rolls it was clear to normal people that this was OVER ABOVE THE LEVEL THEY WERE AT UNDER BUSH, SO OBVIOUSLY THAT NUMBER INDCLUDES THE ONES ADDED UNDER BUSH.
 
I must give credit to Dad2three. He defends his stated positions with links, data, pictures, stories. He is high energy and has given me pause at times. It is entirely possible not all of my shoot from hip posted statements are 100% correct at all times (gulp). I admire his determination. We are 7 years into BHO...
Just make sure he charges 2016 Fiscal year deficit to BHO where it belongs, not to Trump. LOL!

Thanks, I give credit AND blame where they belong, ALWAYS

Obama is the second best conservative Prez since Ike, only BJ Bill beats him.

He's WAYYYY to conservative for me: See the TPP, caving to GOP blackmail in 2010 to not increase taxes on the top 2% settling for .08%, not saying no to Keystone already, not going after the Banksters after Dubya's subprime bubble, etc. But at least he got US back to where Reagan gutted taxes to, 17%+ of the GDP in revenues, that's how he is second best fiscally conservative Prez since Ike too!

I measure people by how you handled the shit you are handed, and Dubya handed him a steaming pile of shit and the GOPers made sure he didn't have a fire extinguisher or a place to bury it!

you're a complete idiot and everybody knows it.obama "handled" what he was given by increasing food stamps by 13 MILLION MORE IN HIS SEVENTH YEAR than there were when Bush was President.

and when you rant like the crybaby you are about what was "handed" to whom you conveniently ALWAYS leave out the FACT that DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE POLICIES YOU PLACE SQUARELY AT THE FEET OF BUSH


THAT'S why you're a joke. I don't take you seriously at all

"ALWAYS leave out the FACT that DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE POLICIES YOU PLACE SQUARELY AT THE FEET OF BUSH"

EXCEPT Dems voted 60% against Dubya's war of choice, about 90% against Dubya's UNFUNDED tax cuts AND UNFUNDED Medicare expansion, You'd be correct, lol
 
As the economy has improved, the rolls of those receiving SNAP benefits has been slowly but steadily shrinking.


it is obvious to anybody that isn't a brainwashed left-wing loser that 13 million more than were ever on food stamps under bush GOING INTO OBAMA'S EIGHTH YEAR tells you something about Obama's unemployment figure
 
I must give credit to Dad2three. He defends his stated positions with links, data, pictures, stories. He is high energy and has given me pause at times. It is entirely possible not all of my shoot from hip posted statements are 100% correct at all times (gulp). I admire his determination. We are 7 years into BHO...
Just make sure he charges 2016 Fiscal year deficit to BHO where it belongs, not to Trump. LOL!

Thanks, I give credit AND blame where they belong, ALWAYS

Obama is the second best conservative Prez since Ike, only BJ Bill beats him.

He's WAYYYY to conservative for me: See the TPP, caving to GOP blackmail in 2010 to not increase taxes on the top 2% settling for .08%, not saying no to Keystone already, not going after the Banksters after Dubya's subprime bubble, etc. But at least he got US back to where Reagan gutted taxes to, 17%+ of the GDP in revenues, that's how he is second best fiscally conservative Prez since Ike too!

I measure people by how you handled the shit you are handed, and Dubya handed him a steaming pile of shit and the GOPers made sure he didn't have a fire extinguisher or a place to bury it!

you're a complete idiot and everybody knows it.obama "handled" what he was given by increasing food stamps by 13 MILLION MORE IN HIS SEVENTH YEAR than there were when Bush was President.

and when you rant like the crybaby you are about what was "handed" to whom you conveniently ALWAYS leave out the FACT that DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE POLICIES YOU PLACE SQUARELY AT THE FEET OF BUSH


THAT'S why you're a joke. I don't take you seriously at all

"ALWAYS leave out the FACT that DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE POLICIES YOU PLACE SQUARELY AT THE FEET OF BUSH"

EXCEPT Dems voted 60% against Dubya's war of choice, about 90% against Dubya's UNFUNDED tax cuts AND UNFUNDED Medicare expansion, You'd be correct, lol

Democrats funded that "war of choice" FOR OVER A DECADE USING LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF VOTES FROM HUNDREDS OF DEMOCRATS

LIBS RE LOSERS WHO LIE TO THEMSELVES
 

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