Free College Education vs Spam

[Moonglow]

Fine. Go try grabbing McGillicutty's cow without paying for it and see how much buckshot you find in your ass.

Would there be a cow to take if grass wasn't free.

Grass isn't free. On a purely technical level they do not directly pay someone to grow the grass, but from an economic perspective, there is a cost to maintaining the land.

If you simply set your cattle loose, they wander off and you lose them. So you have to fence in the land. Then you have to provide watering troughs. Additionally, you'll need to start partitioning the land.

If you simply let your cattle into the land, they'll tend to over graze and destroy the grass in one area, and leave the rest alone.

You must build fences to force the cattle to graze the land more evenly, so the grass is not destroyed.

Then you'll also need to do some land management, such as eliminating weeds that over run the grass. Sometimes you'll need to fertilize the grass depending on the condition of the soil, and the climate situation.

Lastly, you'll have to do some water management. If the cattle get into the water supply of the land too much, they can ruin the water supply and harm grass growth. So water inlets need fenced off, and water outlets need protected. You can't completely fence off the water, as it has to reach the soil to water the grass. But you can't allow the cattle into it, to ruin the water.

You may also need to determine what types of grass are in your grazing area, and may need to plant better grass than what is there.

Point being, there is a ton of work and effort, and even money, that goes into providing that "free" grass for your cattle.

That's one of the reasons that when you lease land for cattle grazing, you'll generally see two different prices for the same general area.

One owner is providing maintained land, which demands a higher price, because the land owner is spending the money to maintain the land.

Another owner is providing grazing land as-is, which fetches a lower price, because the cattle owner has to spend the money to maintain the grazing land himself.

The Bottom line again is... nothing in this world is free. Nothing.

If there were no humans on the planet, cattle would eat FREE grass. And before they were mostly killed off, there were millions of buffalo that roamed the prairies. There probably wouldn't have been so many if they were overgrazing. All of it Free Free Free.

What has that, got to do with the realities of Human existence? If you are talking about how wild animals live, great. Good point. Well done Forest. You get a cookie.

Now unless you are advocating living like an animal, in which case you are failing miserably being on the internet right now.... then your point is irrelevant, and really really stupid.

By all means, go live in mud huts, and hunt raccoons and wild berries.

Now, if you want to get back to applying this to real life, where the rest of us live........ nothing... is.... free.

Moving on?

Are you really that clueless? Ants do what they do. All for free. Termites and bees do what they do. All for free. Humans do what they do. One of those things is being on the internet. It should also all be for free. Do you get the drift?

Next, we get the police for free. Fire fighters put out fires for free. The post office delivers mail for free. Etc. etc. etc. Is that over your head too?

The expenditure of energy to make an effort is not free..

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Make college free!

For what percentage of students?

For whatever percentage want to go. Just because college is free in places like France and Germany, I doubt if every student chooses to go. Some are probably content to be cheese makers, plumbers, carpenters or whatever.

For whatever percentage want to go.

That's not how they do it in Europe.

I don't know how they do it in Europe. But if you find yourself going to college, you aren't charged tuition.

I don't know how they do it in Europe.

You say we should "do it like Europe" but you're ignorant of how they do it.

Typical liberal. Typical idiot.

If you didn't know what they put in hot dogs, would you still eat them? The point is that they HAVE free higher education in most (if not all) other developed countries. How they do it is unimportant. What matters is that they do it. Are you even an American? It sure as hell doesn't sound like it. Otherwise you wouldn't be spouting off about how INFERIOR Americans are. Inferior because we supposedly can't do what other countries do.

The point is that they HAVE free higher education in most (if not all) other developed countries. How they do it is unimportant.

They don't do it how you've said you want to do it here, so why pretend their actions help your case?

Are you even an American?

Yes.

It sure as hell doesn't sound like it.

How do you figure?

Otherwise you wouldn't be spouting off about how INFERIOR Americans are.

Pointing out your confusion doesn't make any claim about the superiority or inferiority of anyone.

Inferior because we supposedly can't do what other countries do.

When you figure out what they actually do, you should come back to the thread and spell it out.

 

[Andylusion]

Nothing is free. How much have you personally donated to pay college students?

Everything is free. What is the oil or coal underground? FREE. What is the grass cows or deer out in the field? FREE. What were the trees in the old growth forests that lumber companies cut down in the 18th century? FREE. What are the fish that fishermen catch out to sea? FREE. What is sunlight and the air you breathe? FREE. What is the love of a parent for a child? FREE. Etc. etc. etc. When you are talking about paying, for the most part, you are just talking about BS capitalist concepts.

You are talking crazy talk.

None of what you said is free. Maybe from some suedo definition, but economically, it's not free.

Economically speaking... if you want wood... you have to pay me to get it. I'm not spending my time to cut lumber, if you are not going to pay me. If you want to cut down your own lumber, fine. But unless you intend to hack at it with sharp rocks, my guess is you'll have to buy a chain saw and hatchet. So it's still not free.

If you don't pay me for the fish I catch... I'm keeping them. You want to get your own boat, and catch your own fish, that's fine. But unless you intend to make your own boats, make your own fishing poles, and your own bait... then even that is going to cost you money. So it's not "free".

Just like you want to catch wild game to eat, that's fine. But unless you know how to make your own guns, your own gun powder, and stuff your own bullets, that's all going to cost you money. It's not free.

Intangible things like "love" and "air", that are not the result of hard work and effort are free. Trying to make a comparison between "love" and "lumber" is ridiculous.

YOU are the one talking crazy talk. What if a fisherman supplied the fish he caught for free. What if he needed a boat, fuel or whatever. They would be free too. Everybody uses goods and services that everybody else provides. What if everybody got what they needed for free from everybody else. What if everything was free like the air and sunlight.

Of course, the only drawback to any of this is that for those who are of more value to society because of the difficulty of what they do, such as being a doctor, they would be allowed to have more than others. Bigger houses, better appliances, better cars or whatever. In the past, they used to placate the powerful who wanted to have more than the average person was by only allowing them to be able to wear purple clothing.

Another drawback is giving people incentive to work. But to do that, all you need to do is treat them well. People can exist and live without the driving force of greed. Also, there are many people in the military who simply do what they're told. Despite that, there are many military people who decide to make a career out of the military. People who decide not to work will, so to speak, just dig their own graves.

If I'm given everything I need, why would I go to work at all? Gotta tell you dude... I promise you I wouldn't go to work if I didn't have to.

And that's true for many people. We know this because in the 1990s, the Republicans pushed through welfare reform, and literally millions of people were kicked of welfare.

They went to work. Now they could have gone to work before welfare was reformed, but.... why? They didn't have to, so why do it?

Did you ever read about the original 13 colonies of the 'new world'?

It's amazing what isn't taught in schools. The original colonies in America, where communists based. Everyone worked for a collective pot. Everyone got everything they needed from the collective. Food, water, housing, everything was collective.

Everyone got everything they needed.

The result was, the colony started to starve to death. People said they were too sick to work. Others too tired. Others lame, and injured. Women too busy with other things.

The leadership of the colony was literally looking at mass starvation.

They changed the system. Instead of common land, they partitioned the land up to individual families, and food became rationed. People were told, they could have whatever food they grew themselves, with only 5% of it going to collective.

Suddenly, all the people who had been too sick to work, magically found the strength to plow fields. Men who were too injured to work, magically could move enough to sow seed. Women who had been to busy with other things, suddenly found time to water.

The colony went from on the brink of starvation, to having surplus of food to sell (barter) to other colonies.

Socialism never works. It never does. Capitalism ALWAYS works. It 100%, every single time it is tried, works.

 

[Moonglow]

I'd still rather have Spam over free college...Especially with mayo and cheese...

 

[anotherlife]

No doubt there will be those who would say that my promotion of free college education is "spam." Such things have happened to me before. But the point is that college education should be free! In fact, we should actually PAY students to go to college. If having people who are college educated is good for society in general, then it is something worth the government subsidizing. After all, they do it in places like France and Germany. So why not here.

College in France is not free. College in Germany is free, but the German culture is not like the American every man for himself problem.

American colleges teach what high schools teach in Germany. So how much money do you want to spend on your second high school? The current average $100k? That can buy you a house instead. And if you can't pay your mortgage, it is only foreclosed on you, unlike if you can't pay your student loans you are enslaved for life, no bankruptcy.

Anyways, all skilled jobs are now in low exchange rate countries with cheap currencies and so cheap labor. America is not one of them. Do you really need a university degree to start hassling for some business?

 

[overland]

.....

Next, we get the police for free. Fire fighters put out fires for free. The post office delivers mail for free. ....

No, we don't. How can someone be this stupid?

My sisters house caught in fire. The firefighters didn't charge her anything to put out the fire. And I get mail delivered all the time. I have never been required to give the postman one penny. To that extent, those things are free! True or false.

 

[overland]

[...The point is that they HAVE free higher education in most (if not all) other developed countries. .....

NO they don't.

YES they do. Don't believe it? Look it up. And I am talking 'free" as in what a student has to pay. Just as in what a student has to pay for a high school education.

 

[overland]

Would there be a cow to take if grass wasn't free.

Grass isn't free. On a purely technical level they do not directly pay someone to grow the grass, but from an economic perspective, there is a cost to maintaining the land.

If you simply set your cattle loose, they wander off and you lose them. So you have to fence in the land. Then you have to provide watering troughs. Additionally, you'll need to start partitioning the land.

If you simply let your cattle into the land, they'll tend to over graze and destroy the grass in one area, and leave the rest alone.

You must build fences to force the cattle to graze the land more evenly, so the grass is not destroyed.

Then you'll also need to do some land management, such as eliminating weeds that over run the grass. Sometimes you'll need to fertilize the grass depending on the condition of the soil, and the climate situation.

Lastly, you'll have to do some water management. If the cattle get into the water supply of the land too much, they can ruin the water supply and harm grass growth. So water inlets need fenced off, and water outlets need protected. You can't completely fence off the water, as it has to reach the soil to water the grass. But you can't allow the cattle into it, to ruin the water.

You may also need to determine what types of grass are in your grazing area, and may need to plant better grass than what is there.

Point being, there is a ton of work and effort, and even money, that goes into providing that "free" grass for your cattle.

That's one of the reasons that when you lease land for cattle grazing, you'll generally see two different prices for the same general area.

One owner is providing maintained land, which demands a higher price, because the land owner is spending the money to maintain the land.

Another owner is providing grazing land as-is, which fetches a lower price, because the cattle owner has to spend the money to maintain the grazing land himself.

The Bottom line again is... nothing in this world is free. Nothing.

If there were no humans on the planet, cattle would eat FREE grass. And before they were mostly killed off, there were millions of buffalo that roamed the prairies. There probably wouldn't have been so many if they were overgrazing. All of it Free Free Free.

The only free thing I notice here is the free space between your ears.

I guess that means I said something you disagree with. Well tell me what it is you idiot. Or piss off.

All of it. Your entire premise is abject nonsense.

Go find an ant, termite or bee colony and tell them that what they are doing is nonsense. But you will see them doing it. None the less.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

.....

Next, we get the police for free. Fire fighters put out fires for free. The post office delivers mail for free. ....

No, we don't. How can someone be this stupid?

My sisters house caught in fire. The firefighters didn't charge her anything to put out the fire. And I get mail delivered all the time. I have never been required to give the postman one penny. To that extent, those things are free! True or false.

You're a moron. True.

 

[overland]

I'd still rather have Spam over free college...Especially with mayo and cheese...

But what if you actually wanted to go to college. Would you rather have a large, onerous student debt afterwards or not.

 

[Moonglow]

I'd still rather have Spam over free college...Especially with mayo and cheese...

But what if you actually wanted to go to college. Would you rather have a large, onerous student debt afterwards or not.

I've already been to college and worked my way through...Just think, no debt by the sweat of someones own effort...Now that's a novel idea...

 

[overland]

No doubt there will be those who would say that my promotion of free college education is "spam." Such things have happened to me before. But the point is that college education should be free! In fact, we should actually PAY students to go to college. If having people who are college educated is good for society in general, then it is something worth the government subsidizing. After all, they do it in places like France and Germany. So why not here.

College in France is not free. College in Germany is free, but the German culture is not like the American every man for himself problem.

American colleges teach what high schools teach in Germany. So how much money do you want to spend on your second high school? The current average $100k? That can buy you a house instead. And if you can't pay your mortgage, it is only foreclosed on you, unlike if you can't pay your student loans you are enslaved for life, no bankruptcy.

Anyways, all skilled jobs are now in low exchange rate countries with cheap currencies and so cheap labor. America is not one of them. Do you really need a university degree to start hassling for some business?

According to what I have seen, college in France is free. Next, you're not telling me anything about Germany that I don't already know. But I can tell you something about America that you probably don't want to know. The reason for ALL our problems is that we live in a country that suffers from the DISEASE of a multi-ethnic society. That is a disease that NEEDS to be cut out with a knife if necessary!

Next, the educated people in other countries has absolutely nothing what so ever with exchange rates or anything else. The reason they do what they do is because of the grinding poverty there. In the Philippines for example, there are many families that live in the tombs of the dead in graveyards. For any educator or anybody else, it doesn't take a whole hell of a lot to satisfy one of the basic urges of humanity and feel happy. And that is to have others they can feel FAR superior to.

 

[overland]

.....

Next, we get the police for free. Fire fighters put out fires for free. The post office delivers mail for free. ....

No, we don't. How can someone be this stupid?

My sisters house caught in fire. The firefighters didn't charge her anything to put out the fire. And I get mail delivered all the time. I have never been required to give the postman one penny. To that extent, those things are free! True or false.

You're a moron. True.

If you were a moron, (and you are) that is exactly what I would expect you to say.

 

[Moonglow]

No doubt there will be those who would say that my promotion of free college education is "spam." Such things have happened to me before. But the point is that college education should be free! In fact, we should actually PAY students to go to college. If having people who are college educated is good for society in general, then it is something worth the government subsidizing. After all, they do it in places like France and Germany. So why not here.

College in France is not free. College in Germany is free, but the German culture is not like the American every man for himself problem.

American colleges teach what high schools teach in Germany. So how much money do you want to spend on your second high school? The current average $100k? That can buy you a house instead. And if you can't pay your mortgage, it is only foreclosed on you, unlike if you can't pay your student loans you are enslaved for life, no bankruptcy.

Anyways, all skilled jobs are now in low exchange rate countries with cheap currencies and so cheap labor. America is not one of them. Do you really need a university degree to start hassling for some business?

According to what I have seen, college in France is free. Next, you're not telling me anything about Germany that I don't already know. But I can tell you something about America that you probably don't want to know. The reason for ALL our problems is that we live in a country that suffers from the DISEASE of a multi-ethnic society. That is a disease that NEEDS to be cut out with a knife if necessary!

Next, the educated people in other countries has absolutely nothing what so ever with exchange rates or anything else. The reason they do what they do is because of the grinding poverty there. In the Philippines for example, there are many families that live in the tombs of the dead in graveyards. For any educator or anybody else, it doesn't take a whole hell of a lot to satisfy one of the basic urges of humanity and feel happy. And that is to have others they can feel FAR superior to.

There is a college by Branson Missouri that has free college, but you must work for the college to earn it...

 

[overland]

I'd still rather have Spam over free college...Especially with mayo and cheese...

But what if you actually wanted to go to college. Would you rather have a large, onerous student debt afterwards or not.

I've already been to college and worked my way through...Just think, no debt by the sweat of someones own effort...Now that's a novel idea...

I bet that when you were a kid, you used to have to walk a few miles to school in snow that was up to your knees. And do so uphill. Both ways! What a happy slave you sound like. Maybe if you didn't have to work, you could have worked toward an education that was a little more difficult and of more value to society. Also, humans only have a limited amount of time on earth. I am reminded of a lyric from Pink Floyd. "All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be." Not having to work for college would have given you something beyond value. More life.

 

[overland]

No doubt there will be those who would say that my promotion of free college education is "spam." Such things have happened to me before. But the point is that college education should be free! In fact, we should actually PAY students to go to college. If having people who are college educated is good for society in general, then it is something worth the government subsidizing. After all, they do it in places like France and Germany. So why not here.

College in France is not free. College in Germany is free, but the German culture is not like the American every man for himself problem.

American colleges teach what high schools teach in Germany. So how much money do you want to spend on your second high school? The current average $100k? That can buy you a house instead. And if you can't pay your mortgage, it is only foreclosed on you, unlike if you can't pay your student loans you are enslaved for life, no bankruptcy.

Anyways, all skilled jobs are now in low exchange rate countries with cheap currencies and so cheap labor. America is not one of them. Do you really need a university degree to start hassling for some business?

According to what I have seen, college in France is free. Next, you're not telling me anything about Germany that I don't already know. But I can tell you something about America that you probably don't want to know. The reason for ALL our problems is that we live in a country that suffers from the DISEASE of a multi-ethnic society. That is a disease that NEEDS to be cut out with a knife if necessary!

Next, the educated people in other countries has absolutely nothing what so ever with exchange rates or anything else. The reason they do what they do is because of the grinding poverty there. In the Philippines for example, there are many families that live in the tombs of the dead in graveyards. For any educator or anybody else, it doesn't take a whole hell of a lot to satisfy one of the basic urges of humanity and feel happy. And that is to have others they can feel FAR superior to.

There is a college by Branson Missouri that has free college, but you must work for the college to earn it...

Then it isn't free. Is it.

 

[overland]

Would there be a cow to take if grass wasn't free.

Grass isn't free. On a purely technical level they do not directly pay someone to grow the grass, but from an economic perspective, there is a cost to maintaining the land.

If you simply set your cattle loose, they wander off and you lose them. So you have to fence in the land. Then you have to provide watering troughs. Additionally, you'll need to start partitioning the land.

If you simply let your cattle into the land, they'll tend to over graze and destroy the grass in one area, and leave the rest alone.

You must build fences to force the cattle to graze the land more evenly, so the grass is not destroyed.

Then you'll also need to do some land management, such as eliminating weeds that over run the grass. Sometimes you'll need to fertilize the grass depending on the condition of the soil, and the climate situation.

Lastly, you'll have to do some water management. If the cattle get into the water supply of the land too much, they can ruin the water supply and harm grass growth. So water inlets need fenced off, and water outlets need protected. You can't completely fence off the water, as it has to reach the soil to water the grass. But you can't allow the cattle into it, to ruin the water.

You may also need to determine what types of grass are in your grazing area, and may need to plant better grass than what is there.

Point being, there is a ton of work and effort, and even money, that goes into providing that "free" grass for your cattle.

That's one of the reasons that when you lease land for cattle grazing, you'll generally see two different prices for the same general area.

One owner is providing maintained land, which demands a higher price, because the land owner is spending the money to maintain the land.

Another owner is providing grazing land as-is, which fetches a lower price, because the cattle owner has to spend the money to maintain the grazing land himself.

The Bottom line again is... nothing in this world is free. Nothing.

If there were no humans on the planet, cattle would eat FREE grass. And before they were mostly killed off, there were millions of buffalo that roamed the prairies. There probably wouldn't have been so many if they were overgrazing. All of it Free Free Free.

What has that, got to do with the realities of Human existence? If you are talking about how wild animals live, great. Good point. Well done Forest. You get a cookie.

Now unless you are advocating living like an animal, in which case you are failing miserably being on the internet right now.... then your point is irrelevant, and really really stupid.

By all means, go live in mud huts, and hunt raccoons and wild berries.

Now, if you want to get back to applying this to real life, where the rest of us live........ nothing... is.... free.

Moving on?

Are you really that clueless? Ants do what they do. All for free. Termites and bees do what they do. All for free. Humans do what they do. One of those things is being on the internet. It should also all be for free. Do you get the drift?

Next, we get the police for free. Fire fighters put out fires for free. The post office delivers mail for free. Etc. etc. etc. Is that over your head too?

The expenditure of energy to make an effort is not free..

What has that to do with anything. But I think I would prefer that you not tell me.

 

[Moonglow]

No doubt there will be those who would say that my promotion of free college education is "spam." Such things have happened to me before. But the point is that college education should be free! In fact, we should actually PAY students to go to college. If having people who are college educated is good for society in general, then it is something worth the government subsidizing. After all, they do it in places like France and Germany. So why not here.

College in France is not free. College in Germany is free, but the German culture is not like the American every man for himself problem.

American colleges teach what high schools teach in Germany. So how much money do you want to spend on your second high school? The current average $100k? That can buy you a house instead. And if you can't pay your mortgage, it is only foreclosed on you, unlike if you can't pay your student loans you are enslaved for life, no bankruptcy.

Anyways, all skilled jobs are now in low exchange rate countries with cheap currencies and so cheap labor. America is not one of them. Do you really need a university degree to start hassling for some business?

According to what I have seen, college in France is free. Next, you're not telling me anything about Germany that I don't already know. But I can tell you something about America that you probably don't want to know. The reason for ALL our problems is that we live in a country that suffers from the DISEASE of a multi-ethnic society. That is a disease that NEEDS to be cut out with a knife if necessary!

Next, the educated people in other countries has absolutely nothing what so ever with exchange rates or anything else. The reason they do what they do is because of the grinding poverty there. In the Philippines for example, there are many families that live in the tombs of the dead in graveyards. For any educator or anybody else, it doesn't take a whole hell of a lot to satisfy one of the basic urges of humanity and feel happy. And that is to have others they can feel FAR superior to.

There is a college by Branson Missouri that has free college, but you must work for the college to earn it...

Then it isn't free. Is it.

There is no such thing as free in terms of education. It has to be paid in some manner...Are you saying that the colleges all operate for free? Taxes must be paid to support your idea of free..Why is it my responsibility to pay for you to go to college?

 

[overland]

For whatever percentage want to go. Just because college is free in places like France and Germany, I doubt if every student chooses to go. Some are probably content to be cheese makers, plumbers, carpenters or whatever.

For whatever percentage want to go.

That's not how they do it in Europe.

I don't know how they do it in Europe. But if you find yourself going to college, you aren't charged tuition.

I don't know how they do it in Europe.

You say we should "do it like Europe" but you're ignorant of how they do it.

Typical liberal. Typical idiot.

If you didn't know what they put in hot dogs, would you still eat them? The point is that they HAVE free higher education in most (if not all) other developed countries. How they do it is unimportant. What matters is that they do it. Are you even an American? It sure as hell doesn't sound like it. Otherwise you wouldn't be spouting off about how INFERIOR Americans are. Inferior because we supposedly can't do what other countries do.

The point is that they HAVE free higher education in most (if not all) other developed countries. How they do it is unimportant.

They don't do it how you've said you want to do it here, so why pretend their actions help your case?

Are you even an American?

Yes.

It sure as hell doesn't sound like it.

How do you figure?

Otherwise you wouldn't be spouting off about how INFERIOR Americans are.

Pointing out your confusion doesn't make any claim about the superiority or inferiority of anyone.

Inferior because we supposedly can't do what other countries do.

When you figure out what they actually do, you should come back to the thread and spell it out.

Have you nothing better to do than waste my time? I will say this one last time. That they DO it is the important thing.

 

[Moonglow]

Grass isn't free. On a purely technical level they do not directly pay someone to grow the grass, but from an economic perspective, there is a cost to maintaining the land.

If you simply set your cattle loose, they wander off and you lose them. So you have to fence in the land. Then you have to provide watering troughs. Additionally, you'll need to start partitioning the land.

If you simply let your cattle into the land, they'll tend to over graze and destroy the grass in one area, and leave the rest alone.

You must build fences to force the cattle to graze the land more evenly, so the grass is not destroyed.

Then you'll also need to do some land management, such as eliminating weeds that over run the grass. Sometimes you'll need to fertilize the grass depending on the condition of the soil, and the climate situation.

Lastly, you'll have to do some water management. If the cattle get into the water supply of the land too much, they can ruin the water supply and harm grass growth. So water inlets need fenced off, and water outlets need protected. You can't completely fence off the water, as it has to reach the soil to water the grass. But you can't allow the cattle into it, to ruin the water.

You may also need to determine what types of grass are in your grazing area, and may need to plant better grass than what is there.

Point being, there is a ton of work and effort, and even money, that goes into providing that "free" grass for your cattle.

That's one of the reasons that when you lease land for cattle grazing, you'll generally see two different prices for the same general area.

One owner is providing maintained land, which demands a higher price, because the land owner is spending the money to maintain the land.

Another owner is providing grazing land as-is, which fetches a lower price, because the cattle owner has to spend the money to maintain the grazing land himself.

The Bottom line again is... nothing in this world is free. Nothing.

If there were no humans on the planet, cattle would eat FREE grass. And before they were mostly killed off, there were millions of buffalo that roamed the prairies. There probably wouldn't have been so many if they were overgrazing. All of it Free Free Free.

What has that, got to do with the realities of Human existence? If you are talking about how wild animals live, great. Good point. Well done Forest. You get a cookie.

Now unless you are advocating living like an animal, in which case you are failing miserably being on the internet right now.... then your point is irrelevant, and really really stupid.

By all means, go live in mud huts, and hunt raccoons and wild berries.

Now, if you want to get back to applying this to real life, where the rest of us live........ nothing... is.... free.

Moving on?

Are you really that clueless? Ants do what they do. All for free. Termites and bees do what they do. All for free. Humans do what they do. One of those things is being on the internet. It should also all be for free. Do you get the drift?

Next, we get the police for free. Fire fighters put out fires for free. The post office delivers mail for free. Etc. etc. etc. Is that over your head too?

The expenditure of energy to make an effort is not free..

What has that to do with anything. But I think I would prefer that you not tell me.

For a person to expend energy, the body must be fueled by ingesting food, and food is not free...