Free College Education vs Spam

[overland]

.... In fact, we should actually PAY students to go to college. If having people who are college educated is good for society in general, then it is something worth the government subsidizing. ......

Having citizens with functioning digestive systems is good for society in general, but just because you want to be paid to take a shit and have big daddy government wipe your ass for you doesn't mean it's ever going to happen.

Shitting people isn't good for society. Though it could be of some value to plumbers or those who run sewage treatment plants. Next, I wouldn't want the government or anybody else wipe my ass. Or anything of the sort.

 

[overland]

No doubt there will be those who would say that my promotion of free college education is "spam." Such things have happened to me before. But the point is that college education should be free! In fact, we should actually PAY students to go to college. If having people who are college educated is good for society in general, then it is something worth the government subsidizing. After all, they do it in places like France and Germany. So why not here.

You should start your own no-charge college!!
Let us know how it works out.

Or maybe the U.S. should just do what places like France and Germany have already SHOWN can be done. Make college free!

Make college free!

For what percentage of students?

...college is free in places like France and Germany...

No, it's not.

Yes. It is.

 

[overland]

No doubt there will be those who would say that my promotion of free college education is "spam." Such things have happened to me before. But the point is that college education should be free! In fact, we should actually PAY students to go to college. If having people who are college educated is good for society in general, then it is something worth the government subsidizing. After all, they do it in places like France and Germany. So why not here.

You should start your own no-charge college!!
Let us know how it works out.

Or maybe the U.S. should just do what places like France and Germany have already SHOWN can be done. Make college free!

Make college free!

For what percentage of students?

For whatever percentage want to go. Just because college is free in places like France and Germany, I doubt if every student chooses to go. Some are probably content to be cheese makers, plumbers, carpenters or whatever.

For whatever percentage want to go.

That's not how they do it in Europe.

I don't know how they do it in Europe. But if you find yourself going to college, you aren't charged tuition.

 

[Unkotare]

No doubt there will be those who would say that my promotion of free college education is "spam." Such things have happened to me before. But the point is that college education should be free! .....

It "shouldn't" be, it isn't anywhere, and it never will be. Spam is reposting the exact same fucking thing over and over and over as you have done with this one stupid idea.

No. "Spam" is what people label something they don't want to hear. ...

It's exactly what I told you it is. Pay attention, boy.

 

[Unkotare]

You should start your own no-charge college!!
Let us know how it works out.

Or maybe the U.S. should just do what places like France and Germany have already SHOWN can be done. Make college free!

Make college free!

For what percentage of students?

For whatever percentage want to go. Just because college is free in places like France and Germany, I doubt if every student chooses to go. Some are probably content to be cheese makers, plumbers, carpenters or whatever.

For whatever percentage want to go.

That's not how they do it in Europe.

I don't know how they do it in Europe. ....

Then why do you keep shooting your ignorant mouth off as if you did?

 

[Andylusion]

Nothing is free. How much have you personally donated to pay college students?

Everything is free. What is the oil or coal underground? FREE. What is the grass cows or deer out in the field? FREE. What were the trees in the old growth forests that lumber companies cut down in the 18th century? FREE. What are the fish that fishermen catch out to sea? FREE. What is sunlight and the air you breathe? FREE. What is the love of a parent for a child? FREE. Etc. etc. etc. When you are talking about paying, for the most part, you are just talking about BS capitalist concepts.

Fine. Go try grabbing McGillicutty's cow without paying for it and see how much buckshot you find in your ass.

Would there be a cow to take if grass wasn't free.

Grass isn't free. On a purely technical level they do not directly pay someone to grow the grass, but from an economic perspective, there is a cost to maintaining the land.

If you simply set your cattle loose, they wander off and you lose them. So you have to fence in the land. Then you have to provide watering troughs. Additionally, you'll need to start partitioning the land.

If you simply let your cattle into the land, they'll tend to over graze and destroy the grass in one area, and leave the rest alone.

You must build fences to force the cattle to graze the land more evenly, so the grass is not destroyed.

Then you'll also need to do some land management, such as eliminating weeds that over run the grass. Sometimes you'll need to fertilize the grass depending on the condition of the soil, and the climate situation.

Lastly, you'll have to do some water management. If the cattle get into the water supply of the land too much, they can ruin the water supply and harm grass growth. So water inlets need fenced off, and water outlets need protected. You can't completely fence off the water, as it has to reach the soil to water the grass. But you can't allow the cattle into it, to ruin the water.

You may also need to determine what types of grass are in your grazing area, and may need to plant better grass than what is there.

Point being, there is a ton of work and effort, and even money, that goes into providing that "free" grass for your cattle.

That's one of the reasons that when you lease land for cattle grazing, you'll generally see two different prices for the same general area.

One owner is providing maintained land, which demands a higher price, because the land owner is spending the money to maintain the land.

Another owner is providing grazing land as-is, which fetches a lower price, because the cattle owner has to spend the money to maintain the grazing land himself.

The Bottom line again is... nothing in this world is free. Nothing.

 

[overland]

Nothing is free. How much have you personally donated to pay college students?

Everything is free. What is the oil or coal underground? FREE. What is the grass cows or deer out in the field? FREE. What were the trees in the old growth forests that lumber companies cut down in the 18th century? FREE. What are the fish that fishermen catch out to sea? FREE. What is sunlight and the air you breathe? FREE. What is the love of a parent for a child? FREE. Etc. etc. etc. When you are talking about paying, for the most part, you are just talking about BS capitalist concepts.

Fine. Go try grabbing McGillicutty's cow without paying for it and see how much buckshot you find in your ass.

Would there be a cow to take if grass wasn't free.

Grass isn't free. On a purely technical level they do not directly pay someone to grow the grass, but from an economic perspective, there is a cost to maintaining the land.

If you simply set your cattle loose, they wander off and you lose them. So you have to fence in the land. Then you have to provide watering troughs. Additionally, you'll need to start partitioning the land.

If you simply let your cattle into the land, they'll tend to over graze and destroy the grass in one area, and leave the rest alone.

You must build fences to force the cattle to graze the land more evenly, so the grass is not destroyed.

Then you'll also need to do some land management, such as eliminating weeds that over run the grass. Sometimes you'll need to fertilize the grass depending on the condition of the soil, and the climate situation.

Lastly, you'll have to do some water management. If the cattle get into the water supply of the land too much, they can ruin the water supply and harm grass growth. So water inlets need fenced off, and water outlets need protected. You can't completely fence off the water, as it has to reach the soil to water the grass. But you can't allow the cattle into it, to ruin the water.

You may also need to determine what types of grass are in your grazing area, and may need to plant better grass than what is there.

Point being, there is a ton of work and effort, and even money, that goes into providing that "free" grass for your cattle.

That's one of the reasons that when you lease land for cattle grazing, you'll generally see two different prices for the same general area.

One owner is providing maintained land, which demands a higher price, because the land owner is spending the money to maintain the land.

Another owner is providing grazing land as-is, which fetches a lower price, because the cattle owner has to spend the money to maintain the grazing land himself.

The Bottom line again is... nothing in this world is free. Nothing.

If there were no humans on the planet, cattle would eat FREE grass. And before they were mostly killed off, there were millions of buffalo that roamed the prairies. There probably wouldn't have been so many if they were overgrazing. All of it Free Free Free.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Nothing is free. How much have you personally donated to pay college students?

Everything is free. What is the oil or coal underground? FREE. What is the grass cows or deer out in the field? FREE. What were the trees in the old growth forests that lumber companies cut down in the 18th century? FREE. What are the fish that fishermen catch out to sea? FREE. What is sunlight and the air you breathe? FREE. What is the love of a parent for a child? FREE. Etc. etc. etc. When you are talking about paying, for the most part, you are just talking about BS capitalist concepts.

Fine. Go try grabbing McGillicutty's cow without paying for it and see how much buckshot you find in your ass.

Would there be a cow to take if grass wasn't free.

Grass isn't free. On a purely technical level they do not directly pay someone to grow the grass, but from an economic perspective, there is a cost to maintaining the land.

If you simply set your cattle loose, they wander off and you lose them. So you have to fence in the land. Then you have to provide watering troughs. Additionally, you'll need to start partitioning the land.

If you simply let your cattle into the land, they'll tend to over graze and destroy the grass in one area, and leave the rest alone.

You must build fences to force the cattle to graze the land more evenly, so the grass is not destroyed.

Then you'll also need to do some land management, such as eliminating weeds that over run the grass. Sometimes you'll need to fertilize the grass depending on the condition of the soil, and the climate situation.

Lastly, you'll have to do some water management. If the cattle get into the water supply of the land too much, they can ruin the water supply and harm grass growth. So water inlets need fenced off, and water outlets need protected. You can't completely fence off the water, as it has to reach the soil to water the grass. But you can't allow the cattle into it, to ruin the water.

You may also need to determine what types of grass are in your grazing area, and may need to plant better grass than what is there.

Point being, there is a ton of work and effort, and even money, that goes into providing that "free" grass for your cattle.

That's one of the reasons that when you lease land for cattle grazing, you'll generally see two different prices for the same general area.

One owner is providing maintained land, which demands a higher price, because the land owner is spending the money to maintain the land.

Another owner is providing grazing land as-is, which fetches a lower price, because the cattle owner has to spend the money to maintain the grazing land himself.

The Bottom line again is... nothing in this world is free. Nothing.

If there were no humans on the planet, cattle would eat FREE grass. And before they were mostly killed off, there were millions of buffalo that roamed the prairies. There probably wouldn't have been so many if they were overgrazing. All of it Free Free Free.

The only free thing I notice here is the free space between your ears.

 

[Moonglow]

It's not free to post on USMB...Unless you are sponging off others,and it is not free for the providers...

 

[Andylusion]

Nothing is free. How much have you personally donated to pay college students?

Everything is free. What is the oil or coal underground? FREE. What is the grass cows or deer out in the field? FREE. What were the trees in the old growth forests that lumber companies cut down in the 18th century? FREE. What are the fish that fishermen catch out to sea? FREE. What is sunlight and the air you breathe? FREE. What is the love of a parent for a child? FREE. Etc. etc. etc. When you are talking about paying, for the most part, you are just talking about BS capitalist concepts.

Fine. Go try grabbing McGillicutty's cow without paying for it and see how much buckshot you find in your ass.

Would there be a cow to take if grass wasn't free.

Grass isn't free. On a purely technical level they do not directly pay someone to grow the grass, but from an economic perspective, there is a cost to maintaining the land.

If you simply set your cattle loose, they wander off and you lose them. So you have to fence in the land. Then you have to provide watering troughs. Additionally, you'll need to start partitioning the land.

If you simply let your cattle into the land, they'll tend to over graze and destroy the grass in one area, and leave the rest alone.

You must build fences to force the cattle to graze the land more evenly, so the grass is not destroyed.

Then you'll also need to do some land management, such as eliminating weeds that over run the grass. Sometimes you'll need to fertilize the grass depending on the condition of the soil, and the climate situation.

Lastly, you'll have to do some water management. If the cattle get into the water supply of the land too much, they can ruin the water supply and harm grass growth. So water inlets need fenced off, and water outlets need protected. You can't completely fence off the water, as it has to reach the soil to water the grass. But you can't allow the cattle into it, to ruin the water.

You may also need to determine what types of grass are in your grazing area, and may need to plant better grass than what is there.

Point being, there is a ton of work and effort, and even money, that goes into providing that "free" grass for your cattle.

That's one of the reasons that when you lease land for cattle grazing, you'll generally see two different prices for the same general area.

One owner is providing maintained land, which demands a higher price, because the land owner is spending the money to maintain the land.

Another owner is providing grazing land as-is, which fetches a lower price, because the cattle owner has to spend the money to maintain the grazing land himself.

The Bottom line again is... nothing in this world is free. Nothing.

If there were no humans on the planet, cattle would eat FREE grass. And before they were mostly killed off, there were millions of buffalo that roamed the prairies. There probably wouldn't have been so many if they were overgrazing. All of it Free Free Free.

What has that, got to do with the realities of Human existence? If you are talking about how wild animals live, great. Good point. Well done Forest. You get a cookie.

Now unless you are advocating living like an animal, in which case you are failing miserably being on the internet right now.... then your point is irrelevant, and really really stupid.

By all means, go live in mud huts, and hunt raccoons and wild berries.

Now, if you want to get back to applying this to real life, where the rest of us live........ nothing... is.... free.

Moving on?

 

[Andylusion]

It's not free to post on USMB...Unless you are sponging off others,and it is not free for the providers...

My guess is that USMB is paid advertising revenue, and receives donations, which both come from having a forum that is well used. If anyone could be considered sponging off of others, its USMB off of us poster.

None of us is gaining anything from this forum, that is tangible. I've been here years, and haven't been able to pay a bill yet from this service. If it was closed down tomorrow, I wouldn't miss a single bill payment.

So your claim doesn't even make sense.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You should start your own no-charge college!!
Let us know how it works out.

Or maybe the U.S. should just do what places like France and Germany have already SHOWN can be done. Make college free!

Make college free!

For what percentage of students?

For whatever percentage want to go. Just because college is free in places like France and Germany, I doubt if every student chooses to go. Some are probably content to be cheese makers, plumbers, carpenters or whatever.

For whatever percentage want to go.

That's not how they do it in Europe.

I don't know how they do it in Europe. But if you find yourself going to college, you aren't charged tuition.

I don't know how they do it in Europe.

You say we should "do it like Europe" but you're ignorant of how they do it.

Typical liberal. Typical idiot.

 

[overland]

Everything is free. What is the oil or coal underground? FREE. What is the grass cows or deer out in the field? FREE. What were the trees in the old growth forests that lumber companies cut down in the 18th century? FREE. What are the fish that fishermen catch out to sea? FREE. What is sunlight and the air you breathe? FREE. What is the love of a parent for a child? FREE. Etc. etc. etc. When you are talking about paying, for the most part, you are just talking about BS capitalist concepts.

Fine. Go try grabbing McGillicutty's cow without paying for it and see how much buckshot you find in your ass.

Would there be a cow to take if grass wasn't free.

Grass isn't free. On a purely technical level they do not directly pay someone to grow the grass, but from an economic perspective, there is a cost to maintaining the land.

If you simply set your cattle loose, they wander off and you lose them. So you have to fence in the land. Then you have to provide watering troughs. Additionally, you'll need to start partitioning the land.

If you simply let your cattle into the land, they'll tend to over graze and destroy the grass in one area, and leave the rest alone.

You must build fences to force the cattle to graze the land more evenly, so the grass is not destroyed.

Then you'll also need to do some land management, such as eliminating weeds that over run the grass. Sometimes you'll need to fertilize the grass depending on the condition of the soil, and the climate situation.

Lastly, you'll have to do some water management. If the cattle get into the water supply of the land too much, they can ruin the water supply and harm grass growth. So water inlets need fenced off, and water outlets need protected. You can't completely fence off the water, as it has to reach the soil to water the grass. But you can't allow the cattle into it, to ruin the water.

You may also need to determine what types of grass are in your grazing area, and may need to plant better grass than what is there.

Point being, there is a ton of work and effort, and even money, that goes into providing that "free" grass for your cattle.

That's one of the reasons that when you lease land for cattle grazing, you'll generally see two different prices for the same general area.

One owner is providing maintained land, which demands a higher price, because the land owner is spending the money to maintain the land.

Another owner is providing grazing land as-is, which fetches a lower price, because the cattle owner has to spend the money to maintain the grazing land himself.

The Bottom line again is... nothing in this world is free. Nothing.

If there were no humans on the planet, cattle would eat FREE grass. And before they were mostly killed off, there were millions of buffalo that roamed the prairies. There probably wouldn't have been so many if they were overgrazing. All of it Free Free Free.

The only free thing I notice here is the free space between your ears.

I guess that means I said something you disagree with. Well tell me what it is you idiot. Or piss off.

 

[overland]

It's not free to post on USMB...Unless you are sponging off others,and it is not free for the providers...

Does that mean USMB is one of those forums that ask for donations from members? If so, I wonder what the going price they ask is to ban some member that some other member finds "objectionable."

 

[overland]

Everything is free. What is the oil or coal underground? FREE. What is the grass cows or deer out in the field? FREE. What were the trees in the old growth forests that lumber companies cut down in the 18th century? FREE. What are the fish that fishermen catch out to sea? FREE. What is sunlight and the air you breathe? FREE. What is the love of a parent for a child? FREE. Etc. etc. etc. When you are talking about paying, for the most part, you are just talking about BS capitalist concepts.

Fine. Go try grabbing McGillicutty's cow without paying for it and see how much buckshot you find in your ass.

Would there be a cow to take if grass wasn't free.

Grass isn't free. On a purely technical level they do not directly pay someone to grow the grass, but from an economic perspective, there is a cost to maintaining the land.

If you simply set your cattle loose, they wander off and you lose them. So you have to fence in the land. Then you have to provide watering troughs. Additionally, you'll need to start partitioning the land.

If you simply let your cattle into the land, they'll tend to over graze and destroy the grass in one area, and leave the rest alone.

You must build fences to force the cattle to graze the land more evenly, so the grass is not destroyed.

Then you'll also need to do some land management, such as eliminating weeds that over run the grass. Sometimes you'll need to fertilize the grass depending on the condition of the soil, and the climate situation.

Lastly, you'll have to do some water management. If the cattle get into the water supply of the land too much, they can ruin the water supply and harm grass growth. So water inlets need fenced off, and water outlets need protected. You can't completely fence off the water, as it has to reach the soil to water the grass. But you can't allow the cattle into it, to ruin the water.

You may also need to determine what types of grass are in your grazing area, and may need to plant better grass than what is there.

Point being, there is a ton of work and effort, and even money, that goes into providing that "free" grass for your cattle.

That's one of the reasons that when you lease land for cattle grazing, you'll generally see two different prices for the same general area.

One owner is providing maintained land, which demands a higher price, because the land owner is spending the money to maintain the land.

Another owner is providing grazing land as-is, which fetches a lower price, because the cattle owner has to spend the money to maintain the grazing land himself.

The Bottom line again is... nothing in this world is free. Nothing.

If there were no humans on the planet, cattle would eat FREE grass. And before they were mostly killed off, there were millions of buffalo that roamed the prairies. There probably wouldn't have been so many if they were overgrazing. All of it Free Free Free.

What has that, got to do with the realities of Human existence? If you are talking about how wild animals live, great. Good point. Well done Forest. You get a cookie.

Now unless you are advocating living like an animal, in which case you are failing miserably being on the internet right now.... then your point is irrelevant, and really really stupid.

By all means, go live in mud huts, and hunt raccoons and wild berries.

Now, if you want to get back to applying this to real life, where the rest of us live........ nothing... is.... free.

Moving on?

Are you really that clueless? Ants do what they do. All for free. Termites and bees do what they do. All for free. Humans do what they do. One of those things is being on the internet. It should also all be for free. Do you get the drift?

Next, we get the police for free. Fire fighters put out fires for free. The post office delivers mail for free. Etc. etc. etc. Is that over your head too?

 

[overland]

Or maybe the U.S. should just do what places like France and Germany have already SHOWN can be done. Make college free!

Make college free!

For what percentage of students?

For whatever percentage want to go. Just because college is free in places like France and Germany, I doubt if every student chooses to go. Some are probably content to be cheese makers, plumbers, carpenters or whatever.

For whatever percentage want to go.

That's not how they do it in Europe.

I don't know how they do it in Europe. But if you find yourself going to college, you aren't charged tuition.

I don't know how they do it in Europe.

You say we should "do it like Europe" but you're ignorant of how they do it.

Typical liberal. Typical idiot.

If you didn't know what they put in hot dogs, would you still eat them? The point is that they HAVE free higher education in most (if not all) other developed countries. How they do it is unimportant. What matters is that they do it. Are you even an American? It sure as hell doesn't sound like it. Otherwise you wouldn't be spouting off about how INFERIOR Americans are. Inferior because we supposedly can't do what other countries do.

 

[Unkotare]

.....

Next, we get the police for free. Fire fighters put out fires for free. The post office delivers mail for free. ....

No, we don't. How can someone be this stupid?

 

[Unkotare]

[...The point is that they HAVE free higher education in most (if not all) other developed countries. .....

NO they don't.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Fine. Go try grabbing McGillicutty's cow without paying for it and see how much buckshot you find in your ass.

Would there be a cow to take if grass wasn't free.

Grass isn't free. On a purely technical level they do not directly pay someone to grow the grass, but from an economic perspective, there is a cost to maintaining the land.

If you simply set your cattle loose, they wander off and you lose them. So you have to fence in the land. Then you have to provide watering troughs. Additionally, you'll need to start partitioning the land.

If you simply let your cattle into the land, they'll tend to over graze and destroy the grass in one area, and leave the rest alone.

You must build fences to force the cattle to graze the land more evenly, so the grass is not destroyed.

Then you'll also need to do some land management, such as eliminating weeds that over run the grass. Sometimes you'll need to fertilize the grass depending on the condition of the soil, and the climate situation.

Lastly, you'll have to do some water management. If the cattle get into the water supply of the land too much, they can ruin the water supply and harm grass growth. So water inlets need fenced off, and water outlets need protected. You can't completely fence off the water, as it has to reach the soil to water the grass. But you can't allow the cattle into it, to ruin the water.

You may also need to determine what types of grass are in your grazing area, and may need to plant better grass than what is there.

Point being, there is a ton of work and effort, and even money, that goes into providing that "free" grass for your cattle.

That's one of the reasons that when you lease land for cattle grazing, you'll generally see two different prices for the same general area.

One owner is providing maintained land, which demands a higher price, because the land owner is spending the money to maintain the land.

Another owner is providing grazing land as-is, which fetches a lower price, because the cattle owner has to spend the money to maintain the grazing land himself.

The Bottom line again is... nothing in this world is free. Nothing.

If there were no humans on the planet, cattle would eat FREE grass. And before they were mostly killed off, there were millions of buffalo that roamed the prairies. There probably wouldn't have been so many if they were overgrazing. All of it Free Free Free.

The only free thing I notice here is the free space between your ears.

I guess that means I said something you disagree with. Well tell me what it is you idiot. Or piss off.

All of it. Your entire premise is abject nonsense.

 

[Moonglow]

It's not free to post on USMB...Unless you are sponging off others,and it is not free for the providers...

Does that mean USMB is one of those forums that ask for donations from members? If so, I wonder what the going price they ask is to ban some member that some other member finds "objectionable."

For you anything is possible...Just don't ask...