Game of Thrones

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Insane and sadistic people often find ways to gain power. It's happened throughout history.

Here in the US we dodged a bullet by that insane power crazy bitch Crooked Hillary not getting elected, didn't we?

Indeed. But we got hit with the Obabble bullet twice. Worst President Ever.

Trump made Westoros great again. He even rebuilt the wall. Mad Queen Hillary wanted to destroy it.

 

[WinterBorn]

If you subscribed to HBO just for GoT, I think you overpaid.

There is a lot of complaining that things didn't work out like they wanted. But the writers tell the story. Martin stopped writing and the storyline had to be picked up by others.

Whether he "earned" the throne is debatable. He was instrumental in defeating the Night King, and thereby saving all of humanity.

But knowing (and having access to) all of mankind's history makes him the most qualified. The days of "might makes right" are over. That is a good thing. The finale shows progress of a civilization.

Some progress. Except for Braun taking over High Garden, the great houses are still made up of Lannisters, Starks, Tullies, Arryns, Baratheons, and some Martell relative....as well as the Greyjoys, Tarleys and so on. All they are doing is deferring the next game for a generation. Once Bran is gone, unless the nature of humanity changes, the power games will spin up.

Except, rather than having wars of conquest, the ruler will be determined by those people.

Possibly. But given human nature and the medieval culture, it's quite likely that intrigue and factions will lead to some quiet violent incidents. Maybe not all out war, but certainly murder.

Possibly. But it also likely means that insane and sadistic people will not find their way to the throne. Joffery is a prime example of what hereditary title give you.

To be fair, that also involved some brother-sister incest.

Yes it did. But with hereditary titles, incest will continue, with no one to say otherwise.

 

[WinterBorn]

If you subscribed to HBO just for GoT, I think you overpaid.

There is a lot of complaining that things didn't work out like they wanted. But the writers tell the story. Martin stopped writing and the storyline had to be picked up by others.

Whether he "earned" the throne is debatable. He was instrumental in defeating the Night King, and thereby saving all of humanity.

But knowing (and having access to) all of mankind's history makes him the most qualified. The days of "might makes right" are over. That is a good thing. The finale shows progress of a civilization.

Some progress. Except for Braun taking over High Garden, the great houses are still made up of Lannisters, Starks, Tullies, Arryns, Baratheons, and some Martell relative....as well as the Greyjoys, Tarleys and so on. All they are doing is deferring the next game for a generation. Once Bran is gone, unless the nature of humanity changes, the power games will spin up.

Except, rather than having wars of conquest, the ruler will be determined by those people.

Possibly. But given human nature and the medieval culture, it's quite likely that intrigue and factions will lead to some quiet violent incidents. Maybe not all out war, but certainly murder.

Possibly. But it also likely means that insane and sadistic people will not find their way to the throne. Joffery is a prime example of what hereditary title give you.

Insane and sadistic people often find ways to gain power. It's happened throughout history.

I am not saying it is impossible. But having hereditary titles gives you spoiled brats who know they will be king someday. That is a recipe for the worst.

 

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[rightwinger]

Better stories? Some of these people do. Others? Not so much.

Joffrey? Just a spoiled, sadistic punk. Not much story.
Khal Drogo? Eh. Some story there, but not much.

ect ect

You are overthinking the meme. The point is that if you are going to win The Game of Thrones then you should have really earned it. He didn't do jackshit. His only contribution to the story line was to lead the NK into a place where there could be an ambush. Well that and to substantiate the revelation that Sam had about Jon.

He was considered the best option moving forward
Apolitical, not power hungry, not ruthless but all knowing

After what they had just gone through, he was the best option

The only thing I wonder about is with Sam. As Maester of King's Landing, I guess he gives up his family lands, and what happens to Gilly, little sam, and little sam to be?

Still he is the best man for the job.

I had picked Sam as the winner about three seasons ago
Thought he would be the one to kill the Night King

Why can’t he have his family with him at Kings Landing?

I always thought Maesters couldn't have families. It was another way of getting rid of extra sons, like the Nights Watch, except for the smart ones.

Of course rules can change, and after the Maesters in general dropped the ball on the whole Night King thing, maybe King Bran changed the rules.

I think all previous ways of doing things were gone

I think Sam was the only one sitting at that table who was married

 

[martybegan]

You are overthinking the meme. The point is that if you are going to win The Game of Thrones then you should have really earned it. He didn't do jackshit. His only contribution to the story line was to lead the NK into a place where there could be an ambush. Well that and to substantiate the revelation that Sam had about Jon.

He was considered the best option moving forward
Apolitical, not power hungry, not ruthless but all knowing

After what they had just gone through, he was the best option

The only thing I wonder about is with Sam. As Maester of King's Landing, I guess he gives up his family lands, and what happens to Gilly, little sam, and little sam to be?

Still he is the best man for the job.

I had picked Sam as the winner about three seasons ago
Thought he would be the one to kill the Night King

Why can’t he have his family with him at Kings Landing?

I always thought Maesters couldn't have families. It was another way of getting rid of extra sons, like the Nights Watch, except for the smart ones.

Of course rules can change, and after the Maesters in general dropped the ball on the whole Night King thing, maybe King Bran changed the rules.

I think all previous ways of doing things were gone

I think Sam was the only one sitting at that table who was married

Doesn't the Onion Knight have a wife?

 

[rightwinger]

Some progress. Except for Braun taking over High Garden, the great houses are still made up of Lannisters, Starks, Tullies, Arryns, Baratheons, and some Martell relative....as well as the Greyjoys, Tarleys and so on. All they are doing is deferring the next game for a generation. Once Bran is gone, unless the nature of humanity changes, the power games will spin up.

Except, rather than having wars of conquest, the ruler will be determined by those people.

Possibly. But given human nature and the medieval culture, it's quite likely that intrigue and factions will lead to some quiet violent incidents. Maybe not all out war, but certainly murder.

Possibly. But it also likely means that insane and sadistic people will not find their way to the throne. Joffery is a prime example of what hereditary title give you.

Insane and sadistic people often find ways to gain power. It's happened throughout history.

I am not saying it is impossible. But having hereditary titles gives you spoiled brats who know they will be king someday. That is a recipe for the worst.

I think that was the point of the final episode
Break the way things were done in the past. That book of heredity that Brienne updated was obsolete. The sons and daughters of royalty had not done a very good job

 

[miketx]

Good thing they put Bron in charge of rebuilding the whore houses!

 

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Ser Donald the Builder, Second of his Name, Destroyer of Taxes, Builder of Walls, Reducer of Regulation, Strengther of the Armies, Father of Prosperity and Schlonger of the Evil Queen.

 

[boedicca]

Some progress. Except for Braun taking over High Garden, the great houses are still made up of Lannisters, Starks, Tullies, Arryns, Baratheons, and some Martell relative....as well as the Greyjoys, Tarleys and so on. All they are doing is deferring the next game for a generation. Once Bran is gone, unless the nature of humanity changes, the power games will spin up.

Except, rather than having wars of conquest, the ruler will be determined by those people.

Possibly. But given human nature and the medieval culture, it's quite likely that intrigue and factions will lead to some quiet violent incidents. Maybe not all out war, but certainly murder.

Possibly. But it also likely means that insane and sadistic people will not find their way to the throne. Joffery is a prime example of what hereditary title give you.

Insane and sadistic people often find ways to gain power. It's happened throughout history.

I am not saying it is impossible. But having hereditary titles gives you spoiled brats who know they will be king someday. That is a recipe for the worst.

They didn't get rid of hereditary titles: Stark, Tully, Lannister, Baratheon, Arryn, Tarley...the great houses all still have hereditary lines of succession.

 

[boedicca]

Except, rather than having wars of conquest, the ruler will be determined by those people.

Possibly. But given human nature and the medieval culture, it's quite likely that intrigue and factions will lead to some quiet violent incidents. Maybe not all out war, but certainly murder.

Possibly. But it also likely means that insane and sadistic people will not find their way to the throne. Joffery is a prime example of what hereditary title give you.

Insane and sadistic people often find ways to gain power. It's happened throughout history.

I am not saying it is impossible. But having hereditary titles gives you spoiled brats who know they will be king someday. That is a recipe for the worst.

I think that was the point of the final episode
Break the way things were done in the past. That book of heredity that Brienne updated was obsolete. The sons and daughters of royalty had not done a very good job

Who ever does a good job with absolute power?

 

[rightwinger]

Possibly. But given human nature and the medieval culture, it's quite likely that intrigue and factions will lead to some quiet violent incidents. Maybe not all out war, but certainly murder.

Possibly. But it also likely means that insane and sadistic people will not find their way to the throne. Joffery is a prime example of what hereditary title give you.

Insane and sadistic people often find ways to gain power. It's happened throughout history.

I am not saying it is impossible. But having hereditary titles gives you spoiled brats who know they will be king someday. That is a recipe for the worst.

I think that was the point of the final episode
Break the way things were done in the past. That book of heredity that Brienne updated was obsolete. The sons and daughters of royalty had not done a very good job

Who ever does a good job with absolute power?

That is why Bran was the best choice

 

[boedicca]

Possibly. But it also likely means that insane and sadistic people will not find their way to the throne. Joffery is a prime example of what hereditary title give you.

Insane and sadistic people often find ways to gain power. It's happened throughout history.

I am not saying it is impossible. But having hereditary titles gives you spoiled brats who know they will be king someday. That is a recipe for the worst.

I think that was the point of the final episode
Break the way things were done in the past. That book of heredity that Brienne updated was obsolete. The sons and daughters of royalty had not done a very good job

Who ever does a good job with absolute power?

That is why Bran was the best choice

Temporary at best. As long as they have the Great Houses, the great game will continue.

 

[miketx]

 

[BlackFlag]

The ending was “meh.” At least the north ended up getting something for defeating the white walkers. I wish we could see how things are 20 or 30 years later. Daenerys should have never left Essos.

 

[impuretrash]

Possibly. But it also likely means that insane and sadistic people will not find their way to the throne. Joffery is a prime example of what hereditary title give you.

Insane and sadistic people often find ways to gain power. It's happened throughout history.

I am not saying it is impossible. But having hereditary titles gives you spoiled brats who know they will be king someday. That is a recipe for the worst.

I think that was the point of the final episode
Break the way things were done in the past. That book of heredity that Brienne updated was obsolete. The sons and daughters of royalty had not done a very good job

Who ever does a good job with absolute power?

That is why Bran was the best choice

If Bran ends up as king, what even was the point of Jon's Targaryen heritage? Dany didn't even try to have him assassinated or anything. It was ultimately pointless to even include in the story.

 

[rightwinger]

Insane and sadistic people often find ways to gain power. It's happened throughout history.

I am not saying it is impossible. But having hereditary titles gives you spoiled brats who know they will be king someday. That is a recipe for the worst.

I think that was the point of the final episode
Break the way things were done in the past. That book of heredity that Brienne updated was obsolete. The sons and daughters of royalty had not done a very good job

Who ever does a good job with absolute power?

That is why Bran was the best choice

Temporary at best. As long as they have the Great Houses, the great game will continue.

You must have missed the point last night

The Game of Thrones is over

 

[rightwinger]

Insane and sadistic people often find ways to gain power. It's happened throughout history.

I am not saying it is impossible. But having hereditary titles gives you spoiled brats who know they will be king someday. That is a recipe for the worst.

I think that was the point of the final episode
Break the way things were done in the past. That book of heredity that Brienne updated was obsolete. The sons and daughters of royalty had not done a very good job

Who ever does a good job with absolute power?

That is why Bran was the best choice

If Bran ends up as king, what even was the point of Jon's Targaryen heritage? Dany didn't even try to have him assassinated or anything. It was ultimately pointless to even include in the story.

The point is that it doesn’t matter anymore
Bran will never have children
Every new king is a do over not a hereditary right