Gates' book holds high praise for Hillary

[Truthmatters]

INCHIESTA - IRAQ, THE HIDDEN MASSACRE - RAINEWS24

 

[Truthmatters]

Pentagon Reverses Position and Admits U.S. Troops Used White Phosphorus Against Iraqis in Fallujah | Democracy Now!

 

[mudwhistle]

Not believing the bit in the middle, but the other two are true from what I've been reading.

The Clinton Crack-Up: The Boy President's Life After the White House: R. Tyrrell Jr.: Amazon.com: Books

One thing that Hillary and Obama have in common is lack of trust if not distain for the military. They feel diplomacy solves everything and military action is never a first option. Punishing political opponents is one thing, but bringing massive military might against an aggressor is frowned upon.

Why would one want a POTUS that only punishes Americans?

And that's a half truth.

Both are more pragmatic and hold that if diplomacy doesn't work, then a military option should be on the table.

Which is different from you folks..who really just want rivers of blood.

That is a liberal stereotype.

Seems to me in politics Democrats are who is spilling all of the blood. Also, Obama has murdered hundreds of civilians in his drone campaign, fomented unrest, violence, rape, murder, and aggression in several countries never bothering to hang around to clean up his mess. Egypt put a stop to it and so Obama cuts foreign aid to them. Hundreds of thousands of Syrians have died because of Obama and his meddling.

 

[mudwhistle]

White phosphorus use in Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Use in Fallujah[edit]

In April 2004, during the First Battle of Fallujah, after the fall of Saddam Hussein's government, Darrin Mortenson of the North County Times in California reported that white phosphorus was used as an incendiary weapon. Embedded with the 2nd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, Mortenson described a Marine mortar team using a mixture of white phosphorus and high explosives to shell a cluster of buildings where insurgents had been spotted throughout the week.[4]

In November 2004, during the Second Battle of Fallujah, Washington Post reporters embedded with Task Force 2-2, Regimental Combat Team 7, wrote on November 9, 2004 that "Some artillery guns fired white phosphorus (WP) rounds that create a screen of fire that cannot be extinguished with water." [5] Insurgents reported being attacked with a substance that melted their skin, a reaction consistent with white phosphorus burns.[5]

On November 9, 2005 the Italian state-run broadcaster Radiotelevisione Italiana S.p.A. aired a documentary titled "Fallujah, The Hidden Massacre", alleging that the United States' used white phosphorus as a weapon in Fallujah causing insurgents and civilians to be killed or injured by chemical burns. The filmmakers further claimed that the United States used incendiary MK-77 bombs in violation of Protocol III of the 1980 Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. According to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, quoted in the documentary, white phosphorus is permitted for use as an illumination device and as a weapon with regard to heat energy, but not permitted as an offensive weapon with regard to its toxic chemical properties.[6][7] The documentary also included footage which purported to be of white phosphorus being fired from helicopters over Fallujah. It also quoted journalist Giuliana Sgrena, who had been in Fallujah, as a testimony. [8]

On November 15, 2005, U.S. Department of Defense spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Barry Venable confirmed to the BBC that white phosphorus had been used as an incendiary antipersonnel weapon in Fallujah. Venable stated "When you have enemy forces that are in covered positions that your high explosive artillery rounds are not having an impact on and you wish to get them out of those positions, one technique is to fire a white phosphorus round into the position because the combined effects of the fire and smoke - and in some case the terror brought about by the explosion on the ground - will drive them out of the holes so that you can kill them with high explosives."[9][10]

On November 16, 2005, BBC News reported that an article published in the March–April 2005 issue of Field Artillery, a U.S. Army magazine, noted that white phosphorus had been used during the battle. According to the article written by a captain, a first lieutenant, and a sergeant, "WP [White Phosphorus] proved to be an effective and versatile munition. We used it for screening missions at two breeches and, later in the fight, as a potent psychological weapon against the insurgents in trench lines and spider holes where we could not get effects on them with HE [High Explosives]. We fired "shake and bake" missions at the insurgents, using WP to flush them out and HE to take them out."[6] BBC News noted that the article had been discovered by bloggers after the US ambassador in London, Robert Holmes Tuttle, stated that US forces do not use napalm or white phosphorus as weapons.[6]

On November 22, 2005, the Iraqi government stated it would investigate the use of white phosphorus in the battle of Fallujah.[11]

On November 30, 2005, General Peter Pace stated that white phosphorus munitions were a "legitimate tool of the military" used to illuminate targets and create smokescreens, saying "It is not a chemical weapon. It is an incendiary. And it is well within the law of war to use those weapons as they're being used, for marking and for screening".[

Willy-p, napalm, waterboarding, whatever works the left makes illegal.

 

[Sallow]

Democrats, communists, and non-whites.

None of this can be laid on the GOP's lap like you're attempting to.

I posted Conservatives.

They come in all shades and political party affiliations.

But they generally are the same animal.

Not if they're Democrats, and there's the rub.

You want to blame the GOP for the actions of Democrats

You seem not to know that after the Civil rights movement, the Dixiecrats joined the GOP.

Pick up a book.

 

[Sallow]

One thing that Hillary and Obama have in common is lack of trust if not distain for the military. They feel diplomacy solves everything and military action is never a first option. Punishing political opponents is one thing, but bringing massive military might against an aggressor is frowned upon.

Why would one want a POTUS that only punishes Americans?

And that's a half truth.

Both are more pragmatic and hold that if diplomacy doesn't work, then a military option should be on the table.

Which is different from you folks..who really just want rivers of blood.

That is a liberal stereotype.

Seems to me in politics Democrats are who is spilling all of the blood. Also, Obama has murdered hundreds of civilians in his drone campaign, fomented unrest, violence, rape, murder, and aggression in several countries never bothering to hang around to clean up his mess. Egypt put a stop to it and so Obama cuts foreign aid to them. Hundreds of thousands of Syrians have died because of Obama and his meddling.

No "stereotype" at all.

Obama's flipped the game. He acts on real live intelligence and kills terrorists.

And Obama's not responsible for civilian deaths in Syria. That would be Bashar Assad.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"Hillary? meh." -- Gates

"Gates offers praise for Hillary!!" -- USMB Libs

 

[mudwhistle]

I posted Conservatives.

They come in all shades and political party affiliations.

But they generally are the same animal.

Not if they're Democrats, and there's the rub.

You want to blame the GOP for the actions of Democrats

You seem not to know that after the Civil rights movement, the Dixiecrats joined the GOP.

Pick up a book.

No need to.

I lived through the civil rights period.

Name a Democrat alive today that led the struggle against abolition or tried to stop civil rights. The GOP always led the way for both.

 

[mudwhistle]

And that's a half truth.

Both are more pragmatic and hold that if diplomacy doesn't work, then a military option should be on the table.

Which is different from you folks..who really just want rivers of blood.

That is a liberal stereotype.

Seems to me in politics Democrats are who is spilling all of the blood. Also, Obama has murdered hundreds of civilians in his drone campaign, fomented unrest, violence, rape, murder, and aggression in several countries never bothering to hang around to clean up his mess. Egypt put a stop to it and so Obama cuts foreign aid to them. Hundreds of thousands of Syrians have died because of Obama and his meddling.

No "stereotype" at all.

Obama's flipped the game. He acts on real live intelligence and kills terrorists.

And Obama's not responsible for civilian deaths in Syria. That would be Bashar Assad.

They're both responsible.

Obama is releasing them from GITMO so he can kill them I suppose?

 

[HelenaHandbag]

Damn "high praise"

I'd hate to see "low praise" of her....She (Hillary) had no experience or business to be in that position (SoS) in the first place

This was Obama placing his political crony from the Democrat party to government for falling on the sword for him to become President

most CORRUPTED administration EVER

Being called competent is now deemed as "high praise".

Call it political grade inflation.

 

[mudwhistle]

Damn "high praise"

I'd hate to see "low praise" of her....She (Hillary) had no experience or business to be in that position (SoS) in the first place

This was Obama placing his political crony from the Democrat party to government for falling on the sword for him to become President

most CORRUPTED administration EVER

Being called competent is now deemed as "high praise".

Call it political grade inflation.

Well, it's clear Hillary was incompetent and the media wants to try to prop her up.

But what difference does it make.

 

[usmcstinger]

Typical Socialist tactic of cherry picking and leaving out the truth.

Gates was the only one who understood the meaning of Honor Duty Country.

 

[mudwhistle]

Typical Socialist tactic of cherry picking and leaving out the truth.

Gates was the only one who understood the meaning of Honor Duty Country.

Any president that uses politics in military decisions is a threat to the success of the mission. Ask the guys from Taskforce Ranger, or any other failed mission that was doomed to failure because of political influence.

 

[SwimExpert]

I am really lusting after the chance to pick this book up. It should be an enjoyable read.