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Let's compare Obama with Romney with repect to charitable contributions.
Romney gave 15% to charity while Obama gave 1%.
Who is being kinder to the poor?
Is stealing our money to give to "The Poor" considered more kind than giving from your own income now????
Let's compare Obama with Romney with repect to charitable contributions.
Romney gave 15% to charity while Obama gave 1%.
Who is being kinder to the poor?
Is stealing our money to give to "The Poor" considered more kind than giving from your own income now????
Romney get 15% to the Mormon Church. And what did they do with the money?
Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage - NYTimes.com
Some estimates place the Mormon contribution at $20,000,000.00.
What better use for charity money than try to ruin the lives of people you don't know? Now come on, tell me you approve of that use of Mormon Church Money.
Gather up your pro-welfare and anti-welfare scriptures. And any sort of political or social advocacy or responsibility scriptures. And I wouldn't mind seeing your "if you want me to take the Bible literally, then what do you make of this?" verses.
If you want to explain or defend or fit it together, cool. If you just want to lay a verse on the table, cool.
Here's one.
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
2 Thessalonians 3:10
There is no suggestion in ANY of the words attributed to Jesus that suggests that it is the role of the government to care for anybody. No suggestion of 'safety nets' or any other government social program from either Jesus or any who wrote their opinions of him and/or his teachings.
In both the Old and New Testaments the commandments to show mercy and compassion to those in need are spelled out in some detail. In no case was the responsibility to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, heal the sick, visit those in prison, welcome and show hospitality to strangers given to the king, aka government, but was assigned as a responsibility of the people.
From everything I've read and considered of the teachings of Jesus, he would have been quite negative to those who presumed to abdicate their responsibilities by giving those to the government or others to do. Charitable structure was set up as a matter of expediency and efficiency within the earliest Christian congregations. But in no case did that structure allow those dispensing charity to profit from doing so.
I think Jesus would be horrified at how our government pretends to do 'charity', most especially the part where elected officials and bureaucrats siphon off most of themoney to enhance their own power, prestige, influence, and personal fortunes. I believe he would soundly condemn that as unethical and dishonest.
Jesus also thought compassion and charity to those in need.
Diligence is an important aspect and yes sloth is harmful which is why their needs to be regulations that make sure the people who rely on those services actually need them and aren't just taking a free ride.
At the same time I know people who need them who the government wont give them to.
If you think your burdens shouldn't be placed on any one elses shoulders, then denounce your covenant with Jesus Christ for he holds your greatest burden your Sin.
Take up your own cross carry your own burdens live as a Jew would or do you feel like neglecting your responsibilities and burdening another with them.
The idea that business isn't compassionate or charitable is false. Wealth is created by providing others with goods and services they need.
What service does wall-street provide?
They seem pretty useless and rich to me!
Yes they provide services which need to be paid for. Ever stop to think about the people who constantly look for work but can't find any and so they can't PAY for those services with out help.
I am sure if you rolled up to the people whom you pay for your electric bill and said oops I don't got the money could you show me some compassion, they would laugh at you and turn your power off.
After all America is built upon one of the greatest evils, Social Darwinism.
matthew 25:40
kinda says it all now doesnt it?
fleecing the rich? that is an odd term...they have already fleeced the poor...
yes rich is a subjective term.....
i was raised a southern baptist......i was taught as a child ...that when you are approached by someone asking for something to remember that bible verse....what you do to the least of my breather you do to me.....think about that....if a begger approaches.....would you turn away jesus....
yes i have left the church.....and i am no longer a christian.....but i think there is a moral to the story...instead of asking what would jesus do....perhaps we should ask...what would we do if jesus ask for something from us?
Let's compare Obama with Romney with repect to charitable contributions.
Romney gave 15% to charity while Obama gave 1%.
Who is being kinder to the poor?
Is stealing our money to give to "The Poor" considered more kind than giving from your own income now????
didnt mittens give that to the mormon church in the form of tithes ?
i dont think i would consider the mormon church a charity
At least 10% of RM's donations went to the LDS church, which requires that amount in order for their members to go to the temples to secret rites and rituals.
I am voting for RM, but I have no doubt that he out earns the Obamas by good twenty to twenty-five times the income annually.
Let's compare Obama with Romney with repect to charitable contributions.
Romney gave 15% to charity while Obama gave 1%.
Who is being kinder to the poor?
Is stealing our money to give to "The Poor" considered more kind than giving from your own income now????
Romney get 15% to the Mormon Church. And what did they do with the money?
Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage - NYTimes.com
Some estimates place the Mormon contribution at $20,000,000.00.
What better use for charity money than try to ruin the lives of people you don't know? Now come on, tell me you approve of that use of Mormon Church Money.
There is nothing in the words of Jesus that would indicate that He would have a problem with the government helping the poor. The totality of scripture is clear that we are to help the widow, the poor, and the orphan, and thus We the People can make the decision for all of us. Tis what tis.
There is no suggestion in ANY of the words attributed to Jesus that suggests that it is the role of the government to care for anybody. No suggestion of 'safety nets' or any other government social program from either Jesus or any who wrote their opinions of him and/or his teachings.
In both the Old and New Testaments the commandments to show mercy and compassion to those in need are spelled out in some detail. In no case was the responsibility to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, heal the sick, visit those in prison, welcome and show hospitality to strangers given to the king, aka government, but was assigned as a responsibility of the people.
From everything I've read and considered of the teachings of Jesus, he would have been quite negative to those who presumed to abdicate their responsibilities by giving those to the government or others to do. Charitable structure was set up as a matter of expediency and efficiency within the earliest Christian congregations. But in no case did that structure allow those dispensing charity to profit from doing so.
I think Jesus would be horrified at how our government pretends to do 'charity', most especially the part where elected officials and bureaucrats siphon off most of themoney to enhance their own power, prestige, influence, and personal fortunes. I believe he would soundly condemn that as unethical and dishonest.
So much bullshit. You taken the right wing swill and gulped.
It's not the job of anyone to do "charity". That's not what any intelligent person ever wanted in anytime in history. It's all about helping someone, not just "giving them stuff". Sometimes, the first bit of help may be to give them something, but that's only the beginning on the road to help. Not the end. American Christians don't seem to understand that. One wonders, after reading such an ignorant post like this one, if they ever did?
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime
Of course, from a political party that believes education is bad, this may not be obvious.
There is nothing in the words of Jesus that would indicate that He would have a problem with the government helping the poor. The totality of scripture is clear that we are to help the widow, the poor, and the orphan, and thus We the People can make the decision for all of us. Tis what tis.
I thought you opposed theocracy, is that something that is actually conditional, and not really a principle?
There is nothing in the words of Jesus that would indicate that He would have a problem with the government helping the poor. The totality of scripture is clear that we are to help the widow, the poor, and the orphan, and thus We the People can make the decision for all of us. Tis what tis.
I thought you opposed theocracy, is that something that is actually conditional, and not really a principle?
Theocracy equals fusion of church and state, QWB. Religious and spiritual value infuse most Christians' understanding of duty to others in the entire community. We the People do that. Such is not theocracy.
government of a state by immediate divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided
matthew 25:40
kinda says it all now doesnt it?
Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for.
There is no suggestion in ANY of the words attributed to Jesus that suggests that it is the role of the government to care for anybody. No suggestion of 'safety nets' or any other government social program from either Jesus or any who wrote their opinions of him and/or his teachings.
In both the Old and New Testaments the commandments to show mercy and compassion to those in need are spelled out in some detail. In no case was the responsibility to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, heal the sick, visit those in prison, welcome and show hospitality to strangers given to the king, aka government, but was assigned as a responsibility of the people.
From everything I've read and considered of the teachings of Jesus, he would have been quite negative to those who presumed to abdicate their responsibilities by giving those to the government or others to do. Charitable structure was set up as a matter of expediency and efficiency within the earliest Christian congregations. But in no case did that structure allow those dispensing charity to profit from doing so.
I think Jesus would be horrified at how our government pretends to do 'charity', most especially the part where elected officials and bureaucrats siphon off most of themoney to enhance their own power, prestige, influence, and personal fortunes. I believe he would soundly condemn that as unethical and dishonest.
So much bullshit. You taken the right wing swill and gulped.
It's not the job of anyone to do "charity". That's not what any intelligent person ever wanted in anytime in history. It's all about helping someone, not just "giving them stuff". Sometimes, the first bit of help may be to give them something, but that's only the beginning on the road to help. Not the end. American Christians don't seem to understand that. One wonders, after reading such an ignorant post like this one, if they ever did?
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime
Of course, from a political party that believes education is bad, this may not be obvious.
Only in a weirdo's strange head does that make sense.
Only those who will not willingly step in and help the poor, the widow, the orphan, the ill, the elderly, the dying ~~ those without principles won't.
